Anyone know when Angela is getting back from vacation?
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Anyone know when Angela is getting back from vacation?
JR.
[QUOTE=NapaCouple;6831042]Business question, the donation of roses is the 240 , but I am curious- the Hour rate is 80 , so does the girls split that with the house, so each get 40, and the balance of 160. ,gives her a net 200 for her preformace? Just curious.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your post about the rate at Spring Massage, also know as Lets Relax Massage. I had an bad experience with Grace, all should know.
I came for an hour and had 2 hundreds and 2 twenties. A mistake, maybe one should enter with only 20's?
Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. The sign on the desk also says $80 for an hour. I gave her a hundred, told her it was a hundred, and asked for $20 back in change. She did not give me change, put me in a room and disappeared. Sometime later she came back in and said I would need to give her $180 more for full service. She pretended that I did not understand. I said I gave you 100 already and should get back 20. Then I would give another 120 more for full service. Not 180. She tried to charge me $60 more!
Grace pretended to be cute about it and said "the hundred was for the house". I said, "no, $80 was for the house and I should get back $20 to go to the price of the full service. " I was angry at how she treated me and said, "give me back my hundred and I will leave". That was my only recourse at that point. She ruined my desire and the mood. I showed her I only had $120 left. Then she tried to be clever and grabbed my $120 and said "you get only a half an hour. " So I was upset about her trying to take advantage of me for $60 more and it ruined my desire of wanting to have sex with her. She was not attractive at that point, but a typical woman hoe trying to steal from me!
Table Shower, but no TUMA. Not much desire on my part. Back in the room I saw her large cesarean cut, her baby damage also was a turn off. She was about 32 years old, not a "Spring Chicken", and would speak English when it was to her advantage, pretend not to know English when it was to her advantage.
Got a half and hour and that was it. Still upset at how I was treated. Never trust a hoe. Paying up front before the services also can be a problem. And people from another country will hide behind their English and try to use that also to take advantage of you. Grace, no thank you. Glad many of you Gents had a better experience.
Vivi was very nice and accommodating. Lovely skills and personality. Place was nice and clean, private and welcoming The massage was nice, exactly the pressure I asked for. She started the ST which I must say was just ok. On the flip my started to roam all over her she asked if I wanted everything and of course, I said yes. While she was rubbing my cock I was sucking on her tits and rubbing her ass. BBBJ DFK Riming Decide on the best She started to suck my cock on her knees. I could not even down at her without wanting to explode. She then got the condom put it on with her mouth. Sluty *****, she got a kinky grin on her face. Then I stood up got her on the table and we started standing Mish with extra fingers in her snatch while I rubbed her clit which she seemed to enjoy, I then got a taste of her moist pussy and she tasted like berries, I guess she was fresh for me. After that standing K9 and lots of tits play, and this is where I lost it, pull it out, took the rubber off and made her suck me so fast and hard. I was fucking her mouth until I blew inside her throat, she gagged and got a single tear of pleasure running down her face. Nice clean up. Yes, I would recommend her.
Standard rate for an hour is 240.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6831786]Thank you for your post about the rate at Spring Massage, also know as Lets Relax Massage. I had an bad experience with Grace, all should know.
I came for an hour and had 2 hundreds and 2 twenties. A mistake, maybe one should enter with only 20's?
Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. The sign on the desk also says $80 for an hour. I gave her a hundred, told her it was a hundred, and asked for $20 back in change. She did not give me change, put me in a room and disappeared. Sometime later she came back in and said I would need to give her $180 more for full service. She pretended that I did not understand. I said I gave you 100 already and should get back 20. Then I would give another 120 more for full service. Not 180. She tried to charge me $60 more!
Grace pretended to be cute about it and said "the hundred was for the house". I said, "no, $80 was for the house and I should get back $20 to go to the price of the full service. " I was angry at how she treated me and said, "give me back my hundred and I will leave". That was my only recourse at that point. She ruined my desire and the mood. I showed her I only had $120 left. Then she tried to be clever and grabbed my $120 and said "you get only a half an hour. " So I was upset about her trying to take advantage of me for $60 more and it ruined my desire of wanting to have sex with her. She was not attractive at that point, but a typical woman hoe trying to steal from me![/QUOTE]
When you already have the doubt in your mind that the session will not be great, it almost always never goes great. Making the empty threat of leaving puts your mind in a state of expecting the worst and the provider goes into money extracting mode. Always follow thru on leaving, it sends the right message to the ladies and you only lose out on time. Come back another time and see another girl or go to one of the many establishments in the area. You are in control of your experience.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6831786]Thank you for your post about the rate at Spring Massage, also know as Lets Relax Massage. I had an bad experience with Grace, all should know.
I came for an hour and had 2 hundreds and 2 twenties. A mistake, maybe one should enter with only 20's?
Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. The sign on the desk also says $80 for an hour. I gave her a hundred, told her it was a hundred, and asked for $20 back in change. She did not give me change, put me in a room and disappeared. Sometime later she came back in and said I would need to give her $180 more for full service. She pretended that I did not understand. I said I gave you 100 already and should get back 20. Then I would give another 120 more for full service. Not 180. She tried to charge me $60 more!
Grace pretended to be cute about it and said "the hundred was for the house". I said, "no, $80 was for the house and I should get back $20 to go to the price of the full service. " I was angry at how she treated me and said, "give me back my hundred and I will leave". That was my only recourse at that point. She ruined my desire and the mood. I showed her I only had $120 left. Then she tried to be clever and grabbed my $120 and said "you get only a half an hour. " So I was upset about her trying to take advantage of me for $60 more and it ruined my desire of wanting to have sex with her. She was not attractive at that point, but a typical woman hoe trying to steal from me![/QUOTE]
Went to Tokyo last week and Blue took care of me. Goodness that woman will not let you leave till you are satisfied. Such great service, overall beauty soft skin & even calls other girls in to flirt & "taste" for next visit. Can't wait to go back.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6831786]Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. [/QUOTE]Then you should have just gave her the 240 and eliminated the confusion.
[QUOTE=Swingle1988;6831845]When you already have the doubt in your mind that the session will not be great, it almost always never goes great. Making the empty threat of leaving puts your mind in a state of expecting the worst and the provider goes into money extracting mode. Always follow thru on leaving, it sends the right message to the ladies and you only lose out on time. Come back another time and see another girl or go to one of the many establishments in the area. You are in control of your experience.[/QUOTE]So you recommend walking out and losing your $100 that you already paid?
[QUOTE=BigInJapan;6832094]Then you should have just gave her the 240 and eliminated the confusion.[/QUOTE]When I asked for the $240 session the woman was "quiet, don't talk so loud" "just go in the room and hush, don't want others to hear you. " Then in the room she took my $100 and I asked for the hour session and asked for $20 back. She played like dumb, took off with my $100 and never came back with the $20 change.
Then when she came back in the room she said for full service it was another $180. She never gave me my $20 change back from the $80/ hour house fee.
Total she wanted was $280. Avoid.
[QUOTE=Swingle1988;6831845]When you already have the doubt in your mind that the session will not be great, it almost always never goes great. Making the empty threat of leaving puts your mind in a state of expecting the worst and the provider goes into money extracting mode. Always follow thru on leaving, it sends the right message to the ladies and you only lose out on time. Come back another time and see another girl or go to one of the many establishments in the area. You are in control of your experience.[/QUOTE]Almost everyone there does want any kind of trouble. They know they are making all kinds of crazy money and not exactly legal so don't be afraid to ask for monies back. I have done it 3 or 4 times when I thought I was getting ripped off. Back in day, a girl was giving me a massage, but she was in and out of the room several times answering mongers at the door. I told her I wanted my money back, but she refused. I threatened to call the fuzz (bluffing) and she ran to the back and give me my money.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6831786]Thank you for your post about the rate at Spring Massage, also know as Lets Relax Massage. I had an bad experience with Grace, all should know.
I came for an hour and had 2 hundreds and 2 twenties. A mistake, maybe one should enter with only 20's?
Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. The sign on the desk also says $80 for an hour. I gave her a hundred, told her it was a hundred, and asked for $20 back in change. She did not give me change, put me in a room and disappeared. Sometime later she came back in and said I would need to give her $180 more for full service. She pretended that I did not understand. I said I gave you 100 already and should get back 20. Then I would give another 120 more for full service. Not 180. She tried to charge me $60 more!
Grace pretended to be cute about it and said "the hundred was for the house". I said, "no, $80 was for the house and I should get back $20 to go to the price of the full service. " I was angry at how she treated me and said, "give me back my hundred and I will leave". That was my only recourse at that point. She ruined my desire and the mood. I showed her I only had $120 left. Then she tried to be clever and grabbed my $120 and said "you get only a half an hour. " So I was upset about her trying to take advantage of me for $60 more and it ruined my desire of wanting to have sex with her. She was not attractive at that point, but a typical woman hoe trying to steal from me!
Table Shower, but no TUMA. Not much desire on my part. Back in the room I saw her large cesarean cut, her baby damage also was a turn off. She was about 32 years old, not a "Spring Chicken", and would speak English when it was to her advantage, pretend not to know English when it was to her advantage.
Got a half and hour and that was it. Still upset at how I was treated. Never trust a hoe. Paying up front before the services also can be a problem. And people from another country will hide behind their English and try to use that also to take advantage of you. Grace, no thank you. Glad many of you Gents had a better experience.[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear about that situation. Yes, that would be a total turn-off. So stupid of her too because men can't keep themselves away from a girl who treats them right and blows their mind.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6831786]Thank you for your post about the rate at Spring Massage, also know as Lets Relax Massage. I had an bad experience with Grace, all should know.
I came for an hour and had 2 hundreds and 2 twenties. A mistake, maybe one should enter with only 20's?
Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. The sign on the desk also says $80 for an hour. I gave her a hundred, told her it was a hundred, and asked for $20 back in change. She did not give me change, put me in a room and disappeared. Sometime later she came back in and said I would need to give her $180 more for full service. She pretended that I did not understand. I said I gave you 100 already and should get back 20. Then I would give another 120 more for full service. Not 180. She tried to charge me $60 more!
Grace pretended to be cute about it and said "the hundred was for the house". I said, "no, $80 was for the house and I should get back $20 to go to the price of the full service. " I was angry at how she treated me and said, "give me back my hundred and I will leave". That was my only recourse at that point. She ruined my desire and the mood. I showed her I only had $120 left. Then she tried to be clever and grabbed my $120 and said "you get only a half an hour. " So I was upset about her trying to take advantage of me for $60 more and it ruined my desire of wanting to have sex with her. She was not attractive at that point, but a typical woman hoe trying to steal from me!
Table Shower, but no TUMA. Not much desire on my part. Back in the room I saw her large cesarean cut, her baby damage also was a turn off. She was about 32 years old, not a "Spring Chicken", and would speak English when it was to her advantage, pretend not to know English when it was to her advantage.
Got a half and hour and that was it. Still upset at how I was treated. Never trust a hoe. Paying up front before the services also can be a problem. And people from another country will hide behind their English and try to use that also to take advantage of you. Grace, no thank you. Glad many of you Gents had a better experience.[/QUOTE]If you knew that 1 hour was $240 and you had $240, why did you make the transaction complicated? These places are not difficult to deal with. You should have told her you wanted everything and an hour, given her the $240 and had a great time. I have never had any issues with any of the well recommended establishments. Just keep it simple and enjoy the visit.
Posted by HumbleHal.
Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend.
[QUOTE=BigInJapan;6832094]Then you should have just gave her the 240 and eliminated the confusion.[/QUOTE]By the number of your post you have been around here long enough to read about the big three or four. You know what's up. Pay the fee upfront and then go have fun.
Don't act like a victim here, or a noob. You know what's up.
First visit to Aqua in Ocoee. Conveniently located in a small strip mall near Clarke Road and Hwy 50. Right off the 408. Plenty of anonymous parking.
Drew Roxie, a young and attractive Chinese woman whose command of English was much greater than that of the usual AMP provider. Paid the standard fare for the FS option (80 + 160) and waited for an opening at the table shower (TS). Special thanks to hobbyist Dr Willy who advised in a previous post to "always, Always, ALWAYS" use the table shower and then elaborated on his reasons why. As usual, Dr Willy was spot on.
The TS included some nuru gliding, BBBJ and TUMA. Then back to the room for the rest of the session. CG, 69 and some prostrate action followed. After release, Roxie gave a good massage for the remainder of my time.
Roxie asked how I had heard about them. I told her I had read the reviews. "Rubmaps?" she asked and I told her the reviews I read were in the USASG. It turns out that she is very knowledgeable about USASG and she is aware that the Massage Thread is a firehose of reviews and general information about the local AMP scene. She didn't ask if I was going to write a review or ask for any favoritism. I had a great time with Roxie and can recommend her in particular and Aqua in general. Just remember to use the TS. Doctor's orders.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6832150]When I asked for the $240 session the woman was "quiet, don't talk so loud" "just go in the room and hush, don't want others to hear you. " Then in the room she took my $100 and I asked for the hour session and asked for $20 back. She played like dumb, took off with my $100 and never came back with the $20 change.
Then when she came back in the room she said for full service it was another $180. She never gave me my $20 change back from the $80/ hour house fee.
Total she wanted was $280. Avoid.[/QUOTE]I don't know man. IMHO This just doesn't sound malicious. It just sounds like you created some confusion at the beginning and she added some confusion in the process.
[QUOTE=OlderThanRocks;6832495]I don't know man. IMHO This just doesn't sound malicious. It just sounds like you created some confusion at the beginning and she added some confusion in the process.[/QUOTE]If you don't appreciate my honest advice, then I suggest you go to Spring and ask for Grace and get ripped off also, pay for the full hour and only get a half, and get a lousy lay and no TUMA. Or else you can pay her $280 like she demanded of me. She said $100 was for the house (instead of $80 for the hour) and $180 was for full service with her, and when I refused she said you only get a half hour then.
You have been warned, now totally disregard my experience and advice. Blame me, another senior member, for creating some confusion. I am only trying to help others with an honest but poor experience.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6831786]
Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. The sign on the desk also says $80 for an hour. I gave her a hundred, told her it was a hundred, and asked for $20 back in change. She did not give me change, put me in a room and disappeared. Sometime later she came back in and said I would need to give her $180 more for full service. She pretended that I did not understand. I said I gave you 100 already and should get back 20. Then I would give another 120 more for full service. Not 180. She tried to charge me $60 more![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6832150]When I asked for the $240 session the woman was "quiet, don't talk so loud" "just go in the room and hush, don't want others to hear you. " Then in the room she took my $100 and I asked for the hour session and asked for $20 back. She played like dumb, took off with my $100 and never came back with the $20 change.
Then when she came back in the room she said for full service it was another $180. She never gave me my $20 change back from the $80/ hour house fee.
Total she wanted was $280. Avoid.[/QUOTE]First, sorry to hear you had these problems. This is the exact opposite of our expectations when we go to the spa and I can sympathize with your frustrations.
It does seem however that you describe two different scenarios, one that you paid at the front desk, and one where you paid in the room. Which was it? You apparently knew the cost ahead of time so why not just pay the price and keep it simple?
I don't want to be repetitive, but for the purpose of this conversation I'll mention again that I don't live in Orlando, but get into town a few times a year, and have been doing so for a long time now. Like yourself, I read the forums to find the best girls and to understand the price and the etiquette. I briefly wrote about my "first time at Spring" a few days ago. I was met at the front desk, subsequently put in a room, and about two or three minutes later Grace came in an asked me how long I wanted. I smiled and told her an hour, made the appropriate donation and it was off the the races without a hitch. Had a really nice time too, beautiful girl, great service. In a word, uncomplicated.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6832543]If you don't appreciate my honest advice, then I suggest you go to Spring and ask for Grace and get ripped off also, pay for the full hour and only get a half, and get a lousy lay and no TUMA. Or else you can pay her $280 like she demanded of me. She said $100 was for the house (instead of $80 for the hour) and $180 was for full service with her, and when I refused she said you only get a half hour then.
You have been warned, now totally disregard my experience and advice. Blame me, another senior member, for creating some confusion. I am only trying to help others with an honest but poor experience.[/QUOTE]I understand that you were frustrated -- but I go to the spa's pretty often (1-3 x a week) and have never had an issue like this. In fact, my experience is often quite the opposite. That's why I was trying to suggest that the whole thing may have just been misunderstanding / miscommunication between the two of you.
But I don't want to argue with you about it. So yeah, I'll go visit Grace soon and will report back if I encounter anything negative at all.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6832543]If you don't appreciate my honest advice, then I suggest you go to Spring and ask for Grace and get ripped off also, pay for the full hour and only get a half, and get a lousy lay and no TUMA. Or else you can pay her $280 like she demanded of me. She said $100 was for the house (instead of $80 for the hour) and $180 was for full service with her, and when I refused she said you only get a half hour then.
You have been warned, now totally disregard my experience and advice. Blame me, another senior member, for creating some confusion. I am only trying to help others with an honest but poor experience.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry you got the feeling of being ripped off, but I think it just boils down to you not following the suggestions. At the places like Tokyo, Spring, and Gardenia you simply get in the room and hand them the total fee (standard is 240 for the hour), and if getting a second girl have the extra ready (+100 for a total of 340). By splitting it up, as a house fee and tip all you did was set yourself up for a headache. If you go to another place follow that guidance and don't risk making it more complicated.
And if you are going to leave, by all means don't pull out more money! Just insist / persist on the refund. As at that point, they can't grab what isn't available and in the open, and you clearly were already setup for disappointment.
In the future, just give the total 240 once in the room and none of this will occur. Don't split it up. Consider this a lesson learned.
PS: do the TS for their piece of mind. If you don't want TUMA just say so (not my thing). And no reason to call out the FS, as they know what's up at the big 3 and just getting 240 for the hour let's then know what you want. Keep it simple.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6832543]If you don't appreciate my honest advice, then I suggest you go to Spring and ask for Grace and get ripped off also, pay for the full hour and only get a half, and get a lousy lay and no TUMA. Or else you can pay her $280 like she demanded of me. She said $100 was for the house (instead of $80 for the hour) and $180 was for full service with her, and when I refused she said you only get a half hour then.
You have been warned, now totally disregard my experience and advice. Blame me, another senior member, for creating some confusion. I am only trying to help others with an honest but poor experience.[/QUOTE]HHal, you're getting a lot of advice here, and some of it's a bit vague with short statements like "pay all at once", but since I'm not shy about offering an opinion of my own, I'll toss out my 2 cents (warning, I tend to be a bit wordy):
If I've interpreted your retelling of the story correctly, you DID attempt to pay the full price (or at least told that to Grace aloud) in the front lobby area. Then she shushed you and took you to a room where she (I'm guessing) asked for the house fee of 80, but you handed her a Benjamin. Then problems ensued as you've already described. If that's about right, I have the following thoughts and observations that might help you avoid similar pitfalls going forward.
>> The girls do NOT like open conversations in the lobby. Unless they know you well and even then they don't want to hear a dollar figure aloud. At most, you can tell them how long you want to stay, then get to the massage room.
>> If your attendant does ask you how long you want to stay while still in the lobby, and then asks for the house fee, I recommend just saying something like this: "[RED]I'll pay EVERYTHING in the room.[/RED]" They don't usually fight you on this, but if they DO, then assure you have correct change. Getting change BACK from a Chinese provider or mamasan goes against their nature. That would mean money going from [U]their[/U] hand to [U]yours[/U] and they just aren't built that way. I think they break out in hives, or something, if they try to let money go that "wrong" direction. LOL!
>> Never use the words "Full Service", or anything suggestive, with a girl you've not met before. The conventional euphemism, that most all of them understand, would be for you to say [B]exactly[/B] this: "[RED]I have 80 for the House Fee and 160 for [b]EVERYTHING[/b][/RED]" ... and that only gets said, in a quiet voice, in the privacy of the massage room. That word "everything" translates to "full service". When saying that, I recommend you hold the money (tightly) in front of them and don't let go until you get agreement. If your girl is shifty, she'll try to grab it. Don't let that happen. I would venture to say that most of the regular guys here don't encounter shifty girls at these places and most guys won't get any pushback with this approach.
Finally, I will say that if you choose to avoid Spring Massage altogether, and their associated sister-locations, I doubt few regular customers here will mind, as that will only make room for the guys that continue to go there and don't have problems as you've described.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6831786]Thank you for your post about the rate at Spring Massage, also know as Lets Relax Massage. I had an bad experience with Grace, all should know.
I came for an hour and had 2 hundreds and 2 twenties. A mistake, maybe one should enter with only 20's?
Grace greeted me at the front desk. I told her I would like full service and would pay $240 for an hour full service, as I learned the rate from a friend. The sign on the desk also says $80 for an hour. I gave her a hundred, told her it was a hundred, and asked for $20 back in change. She did not give me change, put me in a room and disappeared. Sometime later she came back in and said I would need to give her $180 more for full service. She pretended that I did not understand. I said I gave you 100 already and should get back 20. Then I would give another 120 more for full service. Not 180. She tried to charge me $60 more!
Grace pretended to be cute about it and said "the hundred was for the house". I said, "no, $80 was for the house and I should get back $20 to go to the price of the full service. " I was angry at how she treated me and said, "give me back my hundred and I will leave". That was my only recourse at that point. She ruined my desire and the mood. I showed her I only had $120 left. Then she tried to be clever and grabbed my $120 and said "you get only a half an hour. " So I was upset about her trying to take advantage of me for $60 more and it ruined my desire of wanting to have sex with her. She was not attractive at that point, but a typical woman hoe trying to steal from me!
Table Shower, but no TUMA. Not much desire on my part. Back in the room I saw her large cesarean cut, her baby damage also was a turn off. She was about 32 years old, not a "Spring Chicken", and would speak English when it was to her advantage, pretend not to know English when it was to her advantage.
Got a half and hour and that was it. Still upset at how I was treated. Never trust a hoe. Paying up front before the services also can be a problem. And people from another country will hide behind their English and try to use that also to take advantage of you. Grace, no thank you. Glad many of you Gents had a better experience.[/QUOTE]If you read the forum on a regular basis you should know that an hour is $240 (which I would presume that you knew based on you having that amount) Pay the full amount on entery and you should have no issues. If for some reason you aren't feeling the love than walk and get your money back. If you gave anthor $180 on top of the $100 for $280 total that would only be 40 more then normal.
1st visit, I'm not used to negotiating after basically keeping all my visits to the 5 or 6 that I just hand over 240 after getting into the room. Table shower cramped and sub par, she did lots of in and out of the room for whatever?? Basically rushed service. One and done for me.
A bad visit at Tokyo was way better than this place.
now this is weird, a lot of times lately when I leave a spa within 20 minutes I get a text from a spa girl that I gave my number to. Are they that well connected or coincidence??
No you should get your money back then leave. Both parties at that point are not going to be in the best mood after initial negotiations have gone sour. I will say this though, if the place is a little busy they will put you in the room and take the house fee as a sort of insurance that you will stay for your session. This has happened multiple times and others have definitely experienced this too. So him giving the house fee up front is something that can be expected if it's someone that is not a regular. I do not know Grace, but Cici has done this to me and I still have the image of her sticking her hand out asking for more money after she counted $240. But as a regular, money is an afterthought and on a few occasions I've found myself being walked out before even giving the total gift.
[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6832145]So you recommend walking out and losing your $100 that you already paid?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MarkGew;6832809]1st visit, I'm not used to negotiating after basically keeping all my visits to the 5 or 6 that I just hand over 240 after getting into the room. Table shower cramped and sub par, she did lots of in and out of the room for whatever?? Basically rushed service. One and done for me.
A bad visit at Tokyo was way better than this place.
now this is weird, a lot of times lately when I leave a spa within 20 minutes I get a text from a spa girl that I gave my number to. Are they that well connected or coincidence??[/QUOTE]I believe some of the parlors are. When I still lived in Ohio I frequented some of the spa's in Warren. The MM's would occasionally make a comment about me visiting the other spa.
Regards,
H19.
I have gone to the garden 3 times in the past 2 months. It's only a ten minute drive from my house. I shower, lotion up. I have really really dry skin especially in the winter months, hop in the whip and drive over. I get lead to the room by either a MM or the provider. I've drawn Bella (hella body), Vicky (dirty talker) and I forget the last one, kinda frumpy. Anyhow beside the point. They ask how long, I hand over 200 and say no TS (I just don't want to risk my skin drying up or them putting some weird oil on me and I just got out of the shower 20 minutes ago) every time they say good. You so clean and it's off. I did negotiate a second girl with Bella after we had been doing naughty stuff for 20 minutes or so for an extra Ben. I've stayed close to an hour or just over every single time, never been rushed. Just sayin.
I haven't been to Orlando since 2020 before COVID took over. I went to a place, $200 paid and that included EVERYTHING! I can't remember what it was called though. I'm reading a lot of reviews about Spring but seeing that's 240. Can anyone catch me up a little? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Rico7;6832634]First, sorry to hear you had these problems. This is the exact opposite of our expectations when we go to the spa and I can sympathize with your frustrations.
It does seem however that you describe two different scenarios, one that you paid at the front desk, and one where you paid in the room. Which was it? You apparently knew the cost ahead of time so why not just pay the price and keep it simple?
I don't want to be repetitive, but for the purpose of this conversation I'll mention again that I don't live in Orlando, but get into town a few times a year, and have been doing so for a long time now. Like yourself, I read the forums to find the best girls and to understand the price and the etiquette. I briefly wrote about my "first time at Spring" a few days ago. I was met at the front desk, subsequently put in a room, and about two or three minutes later Grace came in an asked me how long I wanted. I smiled and told her an hour, made the appropriate donation and it was off the the races without a hitch. Had a really nice time too, beautiful girl, great service. In a word, uncomplicated.[/QUOTE]Not hear to answer your questions. Grace was a thief, pure and simple and I said do not trust a Hoe. I gave Grace a Benjamin at the front desk because $80 was the fee for one hour. She intentionally failed to get me change, though I asked her 2-3 times for my change, a $20 bill. Why don't you go there and get ripped off too! You think this was pleasant for me?? You think I want to be interrogated by you? I told you to avoid Grace and her $280 charge for something that should have been only 240. I am a Senior Member, this was not my first rodeo, so I have no more interest in responding to you or anyone else.
[QUOTE=JaxGuitar;6832848]I haven't been to Orlando since 2020 before COVID took over. I went to a place, $200 paid and that included EVERYTHING! I can't remember what it was called though. I'm reading a lot of reviews about Spring but seeing that's 240. Can anyone catch me up a little? Thanks.[/QUOTE]The standard rate was $200 but most places are higher now -- in much the same way that everything else in life is more expensive now as well.
For the best information search for Dr. Willys post with the title "Complete Idiot's" and you'll get all the information you need.
[QUOTE=Nudeed;6832776]If you read the forum on a regular basis you should know that an hour is $240 (which I would presume that you knew based on you having that amount) Pay the full amount on entery and you should have no issues. If for some reason you aren't feeling the love than walk and get your money back. If you gave anthor $180 on top of the $100 for $280 total that would only be 40 more then normal.[/QUOTE]My preference when getting ready to visit an AMP is to get cash first. If I can do it a day or 2 ahead that seems best as I almost always end up running late. I also get 20's thinking it's easier for them to deal with it than if I were to get larger bills.
I am interested to hear what others think about the denomination.
[QUOTE=WillPayForFun;6833032]My preference when getting ready to visit an AMP is to get cash first. If I can do it a day or 2 ahead that seems best as I almost always end up running late. I also get 20's thinking it's easier for them to deal with it than if I were to get larger bills.
I am interested to hear what others think about the denomination.[/QUOTE]I don't like a large stack of bills that takes up too much room and might have to be counted.
So I usually stick with 2 one-hundreds and a pair of 20's that's ready to go. And then I have a small stack of additional $ separate if I want to give extra.
[QUOTE=JaxGuitar;6832848]I haven't been to Orlando since 2020 before COVID took over. I went to a place, $200 paid and that included EVERYTHING! I can't remember what it was called though. I'm reading a lot of reviews about Spring but seeing that's 240. Can anyone catch me up a little? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I can only speak for myself, I've gone to all the main ones, Tokyo, A2, Relax / formerly known as spring, Gardenia, Aqua, Ocean Star and still just give 200 and still get great service. Depending on how busy they are you may only get hh but it will still be a hh of total fun. Right now IMHO Gardenia and Relax are the best and I most recently went to Gardenia amd got 45 min for 200. But most know me to be clean and respectful. So they treat me very good. Just go in clean, act like you've been there and give them 200 amd you'll leave happy.
Live near Ocala, but kinda bored with selection here, heard Orlando gets all the prime talent, where is the best place for a petite hottie who will make it worth the drive.
[QUOTE=FootyFanatic14;6832826]No you should get your money back then leave. Both parties at that point are not going to be in the best mood after initial negotiations have gone sour. I will say this though, if the place is a little busy they will put you in the room and take the house fee as a sort of insurance that you will stay for your session. This has happened multiple times and others have definitely experienced this too. So him giving the house fee up front is something that can be expected if it's someone that is not a regular. I do not know Grace, but Cici has done this to me and I still have the image of her sticking her hand out asking for more money after she counted $240. But as a regular, money is an afterthought and on a few occasions I've found myself being walked out before even giving the total gift.[/QUOTE]I pay for the full hr, I never split it, even if they put me in a room for 20 min. I pleasantly tell them I will pay full fee when my girl I asked for comes in the room, they back down and say ok.
That's more than likely to be the case for you RowdyReptile and many other guys, but please note that what I have described is something that can happen to new or infrequent customers. I am not the only one that has been asked to give the house fee upfront and be put in a room to wait. This is a fact. What is also a fact is that now I only visit places where there is at least one girl that knows me and all of my subsequent visits after my described experience with Cici did not come with issues with tip. I've had individual sessions with Yoyo and Kiki which were first time visits but since Blue has known me for awhile she introduced me nicely and the formalities were not formal at all.
There is nothing wrong with stating a fact that sometimes the girls make a customer wait in the room after collecting the house fee. It's what happens after that is in dispute. There is a big difference between regular customers that go weekly or multiple times a week, versus a new customer. We will never actually know the truth, but the track record at those spas means they can handle the rare bad experience. Don't think it's necessary for everyone to come running to defend them though. Their reputation speaks for themselves.
[QUOTE=RowdyReptile;6833273]I pay for the full hr, I never split it, even if they put me in a room for 20 min. I pleasantly tell them I will pay full fee when my girl I asked for comes in the room, they back down and say ok.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HotBoss;6825286]I don't post much anymore but I recently found something fresh. I enjoy the specialty therapists of Orlando about twice a month and visit more tame shops on my off weeks.
I found a place near Tavares with Japanese ladies that are actually skilled in massage therapy. I was greeted by 4 Japanese girls that seemed to be college aged but probably mid twenties. Only one didn't speak decent English. They seemed very happy and casual. It did not seem to be a place featuring sexual services. The ladies were all dressed like they were ready to go for a run. I committed to an hour for 80. Table shower is 20 extra but I had just showered at home. After meeting the girls, I didn't expect extras.
The massage started and I quickly learned that my therapist has real massage skills. I experienced real Deep Tissue, acupressure, and excellent hot stone use. The teasing was not accidental but was part of the massage. She worked groin muscles while I was face down.
On the flip, the HJ began and I was told "This is an important part of a full body massage". I agree. The massage continued and included a decent reflexology session. I felt so good that I forgot to look at the clock when I was finished but I'm sure it went over an hour. No tip amount was specified at any time. I usually pay 40 or 50 for a rub and tug but this was great. I handed her 60 on the way out.
This was the best full body massage I've had in a very long time. I will certainly return to Gong Fu. It's located on Lake Harris Dr in Tavares off route 19.[/QUOTE]I returned for round II and to verify what I wrote last week.
The Therapist from last week is Japanese. The others and the boss are not Japanese. The Japanese girl (Lulu) works part time and lives nearby. I was told that when requested she can be there in a few minutes, or I can call ahead to request her to be there.
My second visit was with a Chinese woman around 25 ish with very good English skills. She's only going to be there a few more days. Decent massage but not like the first time there. This time my hands roamed freely but still just a HJ. I asked about extras after the flip but it's not available.
This place seems different. It's not far from a college and I'm wondering if they're recruiting Asian talent from the massage school. I'll ask next time. I was wrong when I told you all it's a Japanese massage parlor, it is not. Someone else wrote about a nasty visit at night. I've been going earlier in the day.
I did see one older looking woman there today working in the back.
[QUOTE=HotBoss;6833356]I returned for round II and to verify what I wrote last week.
The Therapist from last week is Japanese. The others and the boss are not Japanese. The Japanese girl (Lulu) works part time and lives nearby. I was told that when requested she can be there in a few minutes, or I can call ahead to request her to be there.[/QUOTE]In that case, I'm not going to bother checking this place out. It's really too far out of my way just to verify one part-time Japanese provider. Oh well, enjoy the sushi!
[QUOTE=BhallzDeep;6831954]Went to Tokyo last week and Blue took care of me. Goodness that woman will not let you leave till you are satisfied. Such great service, overall beauty soft skin & even calls other girls in to flirt & "taste" for next visit. Can't wait to go back.[/QUOTE]Nice to see that Blue is back at Tokyo. Anyone know when or if Angela will be back?
I decided to slip in one last visit before heading home. Decided to hit up A2 and was able to get Yumi. Yumi is very yummy. Nice curvy gal with a flat tummy. Her BJ skills were excellent. In CG she was tight as fuck. Decided to finish it up doggy because of that ass.
Would definitely repeat. Just wish I had more gals like her in my area.
[QUOTE=Theiikg89;6829573]I've been looking for info on lotus spa in orange city on Enterprise, any hits there?[/QUOTE]The Daytona forum is not as active and does not share info as widely.
What an absolutely lovely experience with the famous Yoko. She's probably in her late 40's and is fairly fit. I've probably called a dozen times in the past and she finally picked up. I made an appointment with her and met her and showed up right in time. The massage wasn't very deep but it slowly worked away stress and I even found myself falling asleep from the relaxation. When she started the tease I made sure to start touching back to let her know I was okay with it. On the flip she let me roam quite a bit although from what I'm reading YMMV. Great HJ finish. She cleaned me up and finished the massage. She didn't short me a single second and I will 100% repeat.