Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Ted Williams; 1146148]? Herndon Therapy.

Went in AMP land near Fairfax Co. Pkwy. And Herndon Pkwy.

I went to Herndon Therapy for perfect relaxation, if this is the name. Anyway, I walked up the stairs to second floor and rang bell. Greeted by a cute 40's lady, nice rack, nice butt, ok body, longer hair. All standard one hour fare, including TS and sauna. TS was flirtatious and the sauna really warmed me up. The massage was good (medium, no back walking). Standard NOVA finish was available and roaming was allowed on those large melons and the bald kitty. Would return as service was friendly and enjoyable. Hint that more options could be available with return visit.

Good Day[/QUOTE]All Three ladies are a joy here. As can be seen from some of my reports. They treat you good when you treat them good. Clean place and well received. 100% better than Booja down the street, though you can prob get more easier at the B.

I decided to press my luck in AMP land and try G. I did RTFF, but thought I would try anyway. So, I go in and I ask for an hour and am led back to room. I noticed something about the ability for four hands massage, but I know these usually don't work out well from previous experience and didn't opt for that. I knew it might be a problem because the towel covered me for the massage even though I tried to keep moving it off me. There were hardly any chances for roaming and it was not friendly. No TS was offered, it looked like stand up shower and would be a DIY. The interesting part about this was right before the hour was up and I had flipped, there were some close calls near the area and I was asked if I wanted another hour. I politely declined as I knew this was just an upsell for a legit place and a lesson learned that I was not going to turn this place around.

Good Day

Returned to CTM one day after work this week. It had been 2+ months since my last visit, but that was because of holidays and paying visits to other area spas. If you saw my last post on CTM, you'll know that I thought it was great.

Greeted by sweetheart Sarah who I was looking forward to seeing and took good care of me. Great TS as usual. Normally a light massage, her technique this time was much more vigorous than usual. Great (standard) finish as always.

I don't know how CTM might rate against other AMPs in the area, but for me, remains a very pleasant visit each and every time.

[QUOTE=Pilot Aviator; 1145729]Sir Isaac supposedly discovered gravity because an apple fell on his head.

A friend of mine recommended the new Spa called "Scent of The Apple" located at 4810 Beauregard suite 103 (in the basement) Alexandria, VA 22312.

Arrival: Very discrete parking with entrances to the main building from both sides. The stairwell to the basement and the Apple are down the same hall as the rest-rooms (not far from the elevator).

Greeting: MMS. Friendly, attentive. Standard rates for the hour.

New SPA. Smaller treatment rooms than some places. New towels and other equipment (including towel warmers in the room).

DRAWBACK: To get to the TS area from the treatment rooms you have to walk thru the main entryway. Which today the door remained opened to the public hallway.

Therapist: "Cindy". Well over 40 (if that is a problem for you, don't make it their problem). Cindy was the only one working when I was there. Taller than some. More shapely (but in now way heavy). From NYC. Today was her first day, and she was unfamilar with the Spa and with NoVA. Very pleasant.

TS: Very enjoyable. But, I think Cindy has not been at a TS place before. She was somewhat confused. But, very pleasant.

Massage: Very different. Not unpleasant. Mostly consisted of backwalking.

Departure: Helped me dress. Very nice. Did not see the gratuity near the incense burner, so was a bit concerned as I started to leave, and then was embarrased when I showed her the tip. 3xJ for an unusual, but pleasant AMP experience.

Repeat: Maybe. I went because it was new, and because of the recommendation of a friend who had a different therapist.

Many details saved for PM.

Be nice to the ladies.

PA[/QUOTE]Saw your post on this place and was in the area so figured I'd give it a try (my first AMP visit ever)

The MMS was very nice of course. Therapist was nice but seemed robotic at times. Did not see my tip either and asked me how much I had (is this normal?)

Probably need to visit a few more places before I can really say it was worth it or not

Do not PM me for information if you have not posted any reviews.

I will ignore you. You are lazy, selfish, and annoying. Or a cop. An ass in any case.

I was wondering if anyone here had ever seen Laura at Honto before.

Good Day

[QUOTE=Ted Williams; 1147135]I was wondering if anyone here had ever seen Laura at Honto before.

Good Day[/QUOTE]I believe the correct answer is tell us about your experience. Thats how it works here.

[QUOTE=Max Beelyun;1147048]Do not PM me for information if you have not posted any reviews. I will ignore you. You are lazy, selfish, and annoying. Or a cop. An ass in any case.[/QUOTE]Or are new to the hobby, something that evidently you never were. I can understand how some would not want to respond in anyway to someone who has never contributed. But not responding is defferent than insulting newbies seeking advice. But if one has no information (yet) to contribute, that does not make them lazy and selfish. Sure you can have an attitude that everyone has to go into their first experience "blind". But maybe, just maybe, some on this board would be willing to provide some cautious (given LEO is a possibility) advice. Some people are more generous with strangers than you apperently are.

Ok, I understand about posting. I wasn't meaning for everyone to get mad about asking for any specific details. I was asking if anyone went there a few years back. I can tell you very quickly that as of a week ago it's a joke to go there now. Everything is terrible since a few years ago. The lady was dressed in jeans and a shirt. 50 year old looking meany and no body to speak of, no extras are available, upsell for standard. There are no ladies there like laura, lubi, connie, suzie. This dates back a while since these ladies were there and I was just wondering if anyone may have remembered them and if possible if they happen to be anywhere in the NOVA region. I don't want senior members to get all flustered. I realize my post count is low, but times have not be even worth posting and I just discovered the site. Ever since we lost King, Green, and few others in PWC it hasn't been same.

Good Day

So I had read good things about this place on here and was in the area today and decided to check it out. It started out very promising. I rang the door bell and this short, very pretty and petite girl answered the door and took me into the first room on the left. I immediately thought this was going to be a good afternoon.

The TS was the absolute best I've EVER had, #1 by far. Very thorough and playful and I was squeaky clean. At the end of the TS I heard the door bell ring and right before I went in the sauna the girl disappeared and came right back and said "I have a client that made an appointment and just got here so my friend is going to take care of you and I promise I will do it next time." I said ok and she put me in the sauna. A few short minutes later a pretty girl opened the door and said Hi and then shut the door so I thought ok it will still be good. Another few minutes an older, less petite woman (late 30's-early 40's) came in and led me back to the room.

This was not what I was hoping for. Massage was bad, I told her to go hard and I could barely tell she was touching me Massage = 3/10. When the flip came she gestured if I wanted a HJ and I said ok since I was already there and she had to work for it as I was not really feeling it and the finish took a while.

As I was leaving, the original girl came out of the room next door and said "I will do it next time you come and take good care of you." I told her I wasn't sure if I was coming back and she begged me to come back and promised again it would be her.

I might go back, to try her out and if I don't get her I will not return

[QUOTE=OneHitWonders;1140169]I stopped by the other day. Parking lot was empty. MWC was closed. Not sure if they will re-open. I hope they do.[/QUOTE]Looks like MWC has reopened. They are running ads on CL that says they are under new management. This one one of my favs and I might stop in today and give a report.

Ortho

Perhaps I should change my sign-off to "always be nice to the newbies". Or not.

Montidoc. Not to be contrary to your post, any "newbie" who has actually taken time to "read the forum" will realize that asking for intel prior to sharing any information may result in a "scolding" by some and gentler (but still not specifically informative) words.

"Mongers" as we have been called frequently (almost daily) provide "cautious" (or at times explicit) information. You just have to invest 30 minutes reading more than the three newest postings (for example, a forum search on "Honto" would likely have provided the questioner more information).

I think it likely the perception generated by the question was of someone who would not invest even a little time to find information that may be readily available (I. E. Lazy).

I believe our "on-duty" Uncle Leos are aware of all the spots (and the off-duty types are discrete in info shopping as I think it likely at least some are customers. Clients at some locations without making their profession our business or impacting the AMPs buisness. Like me, just looking for a good massage).

Regret the long post.

PA

[QUOTE=Montidoc;1147277]Or are new to the hobby, something that evidently you never were. I can understand how some would not want to respond in anyway to someone who has never contributed. But not responding is defferent than insulting newbies seeking advice. But if one has no information (yet) to contribute, that does not make them lazy and selfish. Sure you can have an attitude that everyone has to go into their first experience "blind". But maybe, just maybe, some on this board would be willing to provide some cautious (given LEO is a possibility) advice. Some people are more generous with strangers than you apperently are.[/QUOTE]

A rainy Monday found me "on-time" for an appointment with my ATF.

Parking: excellent and discrete due to the location outside the beltway in a nice complex of many medical offices. Very nice outer-office / waiting area.

Greeting: Excellent. MMS greeted me by name, chat was friendly, took the standard 0. 8fee for the hour and departed. Today I was in studio 1 (which come to think of it is my usual place).

Provider. As sweet, tender and beautiful as ever. Truly special.

TS / Massage / departure all excellent. (My ATF drives a long way every week, and gas is way up in just a week. She knows I am more generous than many. She appreciates the courtesy).

Overall Visit. 70 minutes today. And a solid 10.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA

[QUOTE=Pilot Aviator;1147982]I think it likely the perception generated by the question was of someone who would not invest even a little time to find information that may be readily available (I. E. Lazy).[/QUOTE]Exactly! If you want general information, then spend a few hours searching the forum (or google) and reading. Otherwise, you are just saying "my time is more valuable than yours" and you are a lazy ass. If you can't find what you need in this forum, then google "massage parlor etiquette" and READ. You'll want to spend several hours. This will really help you enjoy your experience!

If you want specifics, you got to have street cred. Meaning, post some reports! The reason for my recent post was because people with NO REPORTS were asking me some very specific questions. Would you answer those questions if someone just walked up to you on the street and asked? I don't think so. Can I tell if you are a cop or not? Nope.

FYI, when I was a newbie, I spent several months reading this incredibly useful forum before I ventured out. Only to completely blow it with the hottest little spinner that I will probably never see the likes of again (Miki at supra, if you must know. Migawd, she was hot). I didn't post anything until I had been out a few times, and I didn't PM anyone until after I had maybe 20 posts to my name.

Newbies, take heed. DO YOUR RESEARCH!

Stopped by VIVI down in Warrenton (not sure if I should be putting this in NOVA section, even though it's pretty close). Was greeted by Helen who is Chinese, about 5'2, with perky C's. I was pretty excited when I first saw her, but the trip quickly turned out to be a disappointment.

Ts. On hard counter, with absolutely no play.

Massage. Actually better than at most parlors, but who are we kidding, I was there for the skinship :P. She kept on massaging till the end, and I was getting worried, but with about 5 or so minutes left she said to turn over and if there was anything else that needed massaging. Of course I guided her a bit down and asked to see more of her, but she refused, and not even a bit of touching. Suffice to say I was pretty disappointed by the end of the "lower" massage. Probably won't go there again.

Overall damage 0. 8.4.

Ps. Sorry if my stories aren't too good, it's only my second time posting!

[QUOTE=Pilot Aviator; 1147982]I think it likely the perception generated by the question was of someone who would not invest even a little time to find information that may be readily available (I. E. Lazy).

PA[/QUOTE]I agree with this. Someone not willing to do some basic research of what information already on this and other boards is just lazy. But a newbie who has nothing to report yet could have done extensive research on this and other boards, yet still desire some advice.

The post in question used as the only qualifier whether they had provided any reviews."Do not PM me for information if you have not posted any reviews. You are lazy, selfish, and annoying." I have no problem with the first sentence in that quote, I can understand how some (many) might choose not to give info to one who has not yet reciprocated. But just because one has not provided any info, that does not mean they have not done much work in trying to find out what they can.

Moved out very east. It wasn't the easiest place to find where it's located in the back, not the front as I almost went into a physical therapy place. I wanted the standard hour and led to room. She was an early 40s short, pudgy, ok looks lady. The TS was ok not much cleaning in the sensitive areas. Massage was harder, almost too hard, and went to flip. Everything was ok to this point, then things sour. She asks me if I am going to take care of her and starts to haggle. This is where my tent became a blanket and I wasn't going to pay extra for a standard NOVA finish. I guess she was asking because she says others didn't tip well before me or something to that effect. I left disappointed after reading that others had some positive things to say about the far place. I'm figuring that the good spirits and ladies have left since. I won't waste my time here again.

YMMV?

Good Day

I'm bored and lately tired of the same old "literally OLD" AMP's. Do any of you know of any new talent that is worth a visit from my jacksons? These AMPs are starting to make me wonder if I should use backpage more often and use indi's. On another note, these darn latina mp's are getting so difficult to find. I'm going to grow a mustache and learn to talk with an accent and hang around the local 7-11 on Rt 1.

A few years back (before the big bust) , I finally went to DC from the Standard NOVA Finish. Not the same as it was, but 10-20 years younger and more service at the same costs. And a few more risks. No special recommendations, since the ones I knew are closed.

[QUOTE=Sir Amp Alot;1148573]I'm bored and lately tired of the same old "literally OLD" AMP's. Do any of you know of any new talent that is worth a visit from my jacksons? These AMPs are starting to make me wonder if I should use backpage more often and use indi's. On another note, these darn latina mp's are getting so difficult to find. I'm going to grow a mustache and learn to talk with an accent and hang around the local 7-11 on Rt 1.[/QUOTE]

Evening Gents,

Wanted to set the record straight about Spa Chalet. Went there a couple of times recently. I guess because I had a good first time. But I will return because the second time was similar. This place is new. We're not going to be able to tell a fib that we've been there before. We can't expect them to be comfortable in THEIR new setting. But we can get to know them and give them an opportunity to live up to their hype.

I saw Kim the first time. Very attractive 30 something. Pretty legs and beautiful smile. She was very shy but not nervous. I think she knows more English than she let on. Maybe others can get her to come out of her shell and maybe I will over time. She has great back walking skills and soft but firm hands. Very nice assests although for the first visit with her, she was too shy to share them. Again, give it time.

Second time, saw Sarah. I believe she worked in Centerville sometime back. 40ish, a bit softer, pretty lady with great hands. She is experienced and not as shy as Kim was. For a guy who enjoys a mature provider who knows how to give a good massage with a fun ending, she is your gal.

Give these girls an opportunity to get used to their location and keep things on the low down. The new kids on the block deserve an opportunity to show us what they can do. In a capitalist society, they will survive if they are good. But we will never know if we don't give them a shot.

Thus endeth the lesson,

AD

[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv;1145998]I went tonite and heard some nice noises in the room next to mine, I was there for a massage only before work, but as you can see, I never made it to work. In the past, I have sampled the menu, YMMV[/QUOTE]Not sure what's up with this place, but it seems as though they have a high turnover rate among the staff. Could be that they're staffing the place with "temps" down from NYC and Phily for a couple weeks, or perhaps the place just can't keep therapists very long. Can't figure it. In any case, on the four visits I've made, the ladies have all been pleasant and capable. I decided to keep it on my list for a post-gym cool-down spot. For more entertaining activities, DC is still the best place.

Rewriting this after being logged out so going to be shorter.

With Peach closed and only one lukewarm review I decided to TOFTT and try apples. It is located in a public location in the basement of a corporate building. I took the elevator down and definitely ran into people as I looked confused as to where I was going. My advice is to take the stairs and look for the ghetto OPEN sign on the door. (they really should take that down). Anyway I think given that it is new and has that sign, people in the building seem curious about it (perhaps thats just my imagination).

Once inside it is the standard setup. As mentioned the TS is kinda in front of the main door so a little uncomfortable especially when you hear people come in right next to you.

MMS gave me Sue. 40s, nice figure with small fake top, face. Ehhh. She was definitely dressed provocatively in heels and short skirt (have not seen that since VIP in NYC). Anyway TS was ok but massage was really good and relaxing. Good technique to finish but was a little distant and the soft touch was only ok. Overall though I was very calm and relaxed so will return. Hopefully will not run into folks right in front of the door. PM if need more info.

This past weekend, had time and money to burn and decided to make a visit to Castle.

Per my earlier posts, I really enjoy the current providers at Castle. All very lovely (Suzie and April) and the massages (I think) are excellent.

Greeted by April this day. Must admit, looking prettier than I last remembered. I almost thought she was a new girl. Excellent TS, nice steam in the sauna (looking hot Agent Scully!) and back to the room.

Massage was excellent. Long, deep strokes. Lots of unscented and well-applied lotion followed by lots of hot towels. Teasing play, turn over, standard finish that is always well done.

Castle continues to be one of my favorite places in the local area. I do recommend. I will be back!

Hello,

I wanted to do a status check on the where abouts of Yoyo. I know she is both my and a favorite of many others. If you know, please PM me.

Later yall!

Seems Beth will be an old favorite for some of you, that is to say a rose by a different name!

MnV

After browsing and lurking this forum for a while, trying to get an idea of AMP etiquette, scoping out potential spots, I settled on heading up the River yesterday. Based on a post a few pages back I thought it'd be a nice spot for a novice monger. And I was right.

I'm not sure if I'm giving out too much info, somebody let me know whether I should back it off some.

It's located in a pretty discreet location on the backside of an office complex (ironically enough, the complex has at least 4 different churches in it, including one next door). Got there pretty early in the morning, so there was only one girl there. No MMS at the door, which to my knowledge isn't the norm, but who am I to complain? I ring the bell, get walked in by Ai, a cute 20-something spinner with a decent set, dressed in a tank top and boy shorts.

I don't think she actually believed me when I said I'd been there before, but I couldn't tell by the way she treated me. The TS was amazing. I think she liked going for the sensitive areas, because she spent more time around there than anywhere else. She dried me off, walked me to the table and told me she'd be right back.

The massage was almost as good as the TS (she did better on my legs than my back). Good amount of lotion used, short strokes of medium pressure, I've had better, but not by much. The soft touch, however, was even better than the TS. It may be she was really a good actor, but it sounded and felt like she was actually enjoying it by that point. Then came the flip. Hoo boy, the flip.

It was technically a standard NOVA finish. But only barely. There were many teases, with implications that a bigger tip would result in even better service. Hot towels afterward, and she even dressed me. So I left her another. 2. It was only 50 minutes, but it was so good I didn't even care.

I don't know if it was because it was my first time at an AMP, or if it was because she was really that good, but I was fully ready to come back later that day to see if it was a fluke. The only thing that stopped me was that I only brought 1. 6 to play (and going to the ATM triggered the cheap bastard in me that said "keep it in moderation").

That said, next time I have some time and money to burn I know where I'm going, and who I'm going to see.

[QUOTE=Sir Amp Alot;1148573]I'm bored and lately tired of the same old "literally OLD" AMP's. Do any of you know of any new talent that is worth a visit from my jacksons? These AMPs are starting to make me wonder if I should use backpage more often and use indi's. On another note, these darn latina mp's are getting so difficult to find. I'm going to grow a mustache and learn to talk with an accent and hang around the local 7-11 on Rt 1.[/QUOTE]New place in Herndon. Booja. Crazy hot girl. Just came here from NY. Huge naturals. I didn't see her on Saturday, but what a great time. But if your not me.

[QUOTE=Ted Williams; 1148331]Moved out very east. It wasn't the easiest place to find where it's located in the back, not the front as I almost went into a physical therapy place. I wanted the standard hour and led to room. She was an early 40s short, pudgy, ok looks lady. The TS was ok not much cleaning in the sensitive areas. Massage was harder, almost too hard, and went to flip. Everything was ok to this point, then things sour. She asks me if I am going to take care of her and starts to haggle. This is where my tent became a blanket and I wasn't going to pay extra for a standard NOVA finish. I guess she was asking because she says others didn't tip well before me or something to that effect. I left disappointed after reading that others had some positive things to say about the far place. I'm figuring that the good spirits and ladies have left since. I won't waste my time here again.

YMMV?

Good Day[/QUOTE]I hear you, something shook down, all the girls lived together. And I think they're all gone. They were hot.

[QUOTE=Ted Williams; 1147397]Ok, I understand about posting. I wasn't meaning for everyone to get mad about asking for any specific details. I was asking if anyone went there a few years back. I can tell you very quickly that as of a week ago it's a joke to go there now. Everything is terrible since a few years ago. The lady was dressed in jeans and a shirt. 50 year old looking meany and no body to speak of, no extras are available, upsell for standard. There are no ladies there like laura, lubi, connie, suzie. This dates back a while since these ladies were there and I was just wondering if anyone may have remembered them and if possible if they happen to be anywhere in the NOVA region. I don't want senior members to get all flustered. I realize my post count is low, but times have not be even worth posting and I just discovered the site. Ever since we lost King, Green, and few others in PWC it hasn't been same.

Good Day[/QUOTE]I read all the time, but some of my ATFs don't want the advertisement, and I haven't had theat many crazy massages at the ones that I would write about. Plus, I'm moody, sometime, I just want a great massage, and not the standard finish bs and $$ outlay.

[QUOTE=Volvos40;1149805]New place in Herndon. Booja. Crazy hot girl. Just came here from NY. Huge naturals. I didn't see her on Saturday, but what a great time. But if your not me.[/QUOTE]Volvo,

Just happen to be in this area this week. Can you PM me details?

PC out

Visiting next week. Any advice for a new visitor? Looking for a MP or reasonably priced lady. PM me. Thanks.

So I got the Best massage to lift my hope backup. I went first thing in the morning and the door was open to the area, I guess for cleaning. Anyway, I was really hoping to draw sunni (sue-knee) from all the hype, but MMS greats me and says she has a real nice lady to take care of me instead. I play along nice and I get a mid40s, shorter, very petite, smoker (cigs) lady. English isn't very good, but the service was flirty. I was pleasantly surprised by the TS, I noticed that things changed too since the last time I was there a few years ago. She made sure to get all the sensitive areas clean and standing attention. Dry off and into room for a medium-hard massage, little bit of backwalk, hot towel, and soft touch to flip with nice roaming. Very nice finish and no haggling for ending. Will do the best again.

Good Day

Anyone know if it really is "new management" or if that is just advertising? If it is new, any significant change in service level from their previous incarnation?

The mother and daughter team are gone, and there are now three 40-50 Chinese ladies working there. The place has been redecorated, and is nicer than before.

Great massage and good value, but it still seems to be legit only.

I visited one of the mentioned AMP in N. VA, Location was great, parking in a discrete area, even when you walk into the building no one will know which business your visiting. Received a worm welcome, paid the house and was showed to a room. In walk "Rushi" am an ass and tit man but the regular spots have been too dry so I had to make do with Rushi. Very good massage by the way. After the routine massage I turned over, the sight of mini me suddenly changed the evenings topic. All attention went to him she was just excited, a lot of hand play and a few kisses (on mini me) and blow. She said there menu was only finger food and no full meals like I hoped for. In all service was almost perfect, wouldn't mind a re visit.

[QUOTE=D Willis;1149847]Visiting next week. Any advice for a new visitor? Looking for a MP or reasonably priced lady. PM me. Thanks.[/QUOTE]Hit Tyco Road off of Spring Hill Road. Back of strip shops (behind Orient Spa) , at least three right there, GGG is one. But they're all next to each other.

8300 Old COurthouse. 140b I think. Get Candi.

[QUOTE=Volvos40; 1150800]Hit Tyco Road off of Spring Hill Road. Back of strip shops (behind Orient Spa) , at least three right there, GGG is one. But they're all next to each other.

8300 Old COurthouse. 140b I think. Get Candi.[/QUOTE]There's one listed off Gallows Road near the little post office and animal hospital that I don't think has been reviewed yet. Looks like it's pretty new.

Might TOFTT next week and see what's up.

Hit this place today, scored CoCo, she asked me who I had seen before, I gave her the names, all of the names I gave her are GONE (she told me, the menu that they served is no longer and option) , so for the previous reviews I gave, its null and void now. She (coco) is a hot little number, showed me her hair lazer removal on her leggs and private areas, but as I mentioned, the menu is Standard NOVA. She's a cutie, late 20s, cute face, nice leggs. Cute feet. Sorry fellas, I guess mama heard me doing bizzness and fired those other girls, ooops.

[QUOTE=DeuceSlim; 1150918]There's one listed off Gallows Road near the little post office and animal hospital that I don't think has been reviewed yet. Looks like it's pretty new.

Might TOFTT next week and see what's up.[/QUOTE]A friend of mine went there back in uuuumm NOv or DEc, he said that the girl opened the menu up without him asking but I think that was a hit / miss thing because I don't see it anywhere on any other boards as for the OPEN MENU.

[QUOTE=Roamin Roman;1148820]Not sure what's up with this place, but it seems as though they have a high turnover rate among the staff. Could be that they're staffing the place with "temps" down from NYC and Phily for a couple weeks, or perhaps the place just can't keep therapists very long. Can't figure it. In any case, on the four visits I've made, the ladies have all been pleasant and capable. I decided to keep it on my list for a post-gym cool-down spot. For more entertaining activities, DC is still the best place.[/QUOTE]Girl told me straight up, not anymore more, no more, those girls are gone, but she (Coco) was a nice little spinner with pretty feet and cute face, if she had gotten more comfy I would have tipped her more, I think a new MMS is there too