The Rat Trap

Just so you ladies know you are a instant no go if you post in this thread for a lot of guys. We don't need your drama.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly;2580199]We used to complain that posts were too graphic for a public forum, some thought it was ok, others didn't. Many years ago this forum was similar to a private club but we have known for years that LE reads the board and frankly it really doesn't make much if any difference. The police procedures haven't changed the real glory for them is the drug arrests and an occasional minor has been turned up but we know and they know it is rare considering the amount of overall activity.

I rather like the Level idea, it takes the crude and rude out of the transference of information, it takes the "street" out of the conversation and is somewhat less rude especially to the regular providers whom many of us respect.

Is it really necessary to tell the world that she "sucked the shit out of the snotty end of my fuck stick" wouldn't "an amazing L2" serve the purpose.

Several years ago we had a "Lunch club" that met in a small restaurant that Vino liked near his home and centrally located it wasn't easy to talk about what we were there for in a crowed public place but we managed.

Personally I like the level 1,2,3 idea, if anyone reading this doesn't agree there is no forum rule against it, so continue, just remember the language you use classifies you in society and in the eyes of the females reading the forum, think about what you have posted when the girl you really like does not answer your texts and she ignores you while other guys are having no problem dating her. Everyone likes to be respected.

My 2 centsVS.

[blue]If this continues move it to the Rat Trap. VS thanks for showing restraint, I probably wouldn't have.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Good points all, VS.

I don't see what all the fuss is about.

This whole coding with the L's looks like one of those high school nerd magic games. LOL you all should have a convention yearly. How embarassing! I'm sure the LEOs are looking at these posts with a bag of popcorn just laughing at this. I'm going to believe you mongers are just bored and doing this for entertainment. LOL. "Yea L1 they will never figure that out. ".

I also call bullshit on the monger that said his boys were grabbed by every girl on his way back to the room. Either he is lying, or the girls at cherry blossom lost their minds and are a jailhouse waiting to happen. I've been there two times and have never experianced that. I will not ever return however due to that report. If it is true its a ticking time bomb. Smh.

Happy L1 ing.

BigBaller.

JJ,

I watched your videos that you told all about. Yea, all 3 of them, in hopes I may want to see you. Sorry, but I didn't see any special skills. Head game: average at best. All I can say if you were balls deep then those videos would get you some serious biz, but no. Most dudes need a great head game from a provider. Take care.

Sox man out.

[QUOTE=Redsox2005;2581190]JJ,

I watched your videos that you told all about. Yea, all 3 of them, in hopes I may want to see you. Sorry, but I didn't see any special skills. Head game: average at best. All I can say if you were balls deep then those videos would get you some serious biz, but no. Most dudes need a great head game from a provider. Take care.

Sox man out.[/QUOTE]Actually, there are waaaaayyyy more than 3, it's unfortunate you've not seen the rest as they are on sites that you actually have to pay for. None of these shoots I reference are amateur, I also have a clips4 sale store that is geared toward fetish and amateur. My head game is ON POINT, and you can ask anyone on this board who has reviewed me, and I'm sure they'll be more than happy to share. I'm sure your cock is average at best, and nothing close to the size of some of the actor's I've worked with.

Here are 10 mainstream videos: [URL]http://www.plumperpass.com/t1/showgal.php?g=groups/1736/59_1&s=365[/URL].

Here are 10 amateur clips: [URL]http://**********.com/bbw-pornstar-jenna-divyne[/URL].

I'm also hosted on other numerous sites. PlatinumPuzzy is one, PlushPass is another.

I guess if you had done better research, you wouldn't have to look like an ass, but it is what it is.

Those who know what I do absolutely enjoy every second, and baby, you missed out!

[QUOTE=VerySlowly;2580199]We used to complain that posts were too graphic for a public forum, some thought it was ok, others didn't. Many years ago this forum was similar to a private club but we have known for years that LE reads the board and frankly it really doesn't make much if any difference. The police procedures haven't changed the real glory for them is the drug arrests and an occasional minor has been turned up but we know and they know it is rare considering the amount of overall activity.

I rather like the Level idea, it takes the crude and rude out of the transference of information, it takes the "street" out of the conversation and is somewhat less rude especially to the regular providers whom many of us respect.

Is it really necessary to tell the world that she "sucked the shit out of the snotty end of my fuck stick" wouldn't "an amazing L2" serve the purpose.

Several years ago we had a "Lunch club" that met in a small restaurant that Vino liked near his home and centrally located it wasn't easy to talk about what we were there for in a crowed public place but we managed.

Personally I like the level 1,2,3 idea, if anyone reading this doesn't agree there is no forum rule against it, so continue, just remember the language you use classifies you in society and in the eyes of the females reading the forum, think about what you have posted when the girl you really like does not answer your texts and she ignores you while other guys are having no problem dating her. Everyone likes to be respected.

My 2 centsVS.

[blue]If this continues move it to the Rat Trap. VS thanks for showing restraint, I probably wouldn't have.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]With all due respect I pretty much disagree with everything you said in this post. The idea that mongers have to watch the way they talk in an open forum about a provider is ridiculous. Now part of what you say is true when you say that some provider's do read this board and may not answer or see certain mongers with posts which they don't approve of. My question to you is why should we mongers really care what the hell they may think about certain words and terms certain mongers use? If a certain provider refuses to see a monger that's her right. However remember this, MONGERS have a choice of thousands of girl's Here in Orlando! Thousands more girl's in Tampa! Thousands and thousands more in South Florida. MONGERS can simply call another provider and guess what? I guarantee you there will be hundreds of girl's willing to take that MONGERS CASH!

This is a MONGERS board! MONGERS pay these provider's bills! Car payment, rent payment, purses, shoes, jewelry and so on and so on! So don't make these provider's feel like there special or in control! There NOT! You as other's can be as polite and respectful as you want. This is a business, fuck respect. We spend cash on these girls. These are NOT free dates! If Certain providers don't like certain mongers than mongers will simply call another girl. I'm sorry but guys getting together at a restaurant to hang with other mongers from this board is not my idea of fun. But hey that's just me and my opinion. Remember who's paying the bills and that's MONGERS!

Chris5.

I personally feel that meeting of provider's are a complete waste of time. Providers getting together at a brunch to talk about mongers is stupid. I guarantee the number one thing they will be discussing is how to get more money from us mongers. This is just MY opinion. And if mystical has ANYTHING to do with this brunch it will be a guaranteed failure. I advise Mystical to sit all the way at the front of the table because she's definitely not the brightest apple on the tree! And take notes as you may forget what's being said. LOL! Love you mystical! LOL.

Chris5.

This question gets ask to me a lot by many of my friends outside of this board. Should a monger do a quick visit, a half hour or an hour? Quick visits are always the way to go. Most providers charge $120 for half hour And up to 200 for the full hour. How many guys have walked in for an hour pay $200 and got kicked out in 15 or 20 minutes? It happens way more often than we think. Half hour visits are another huge waste of time. These providers want you in and out as quickly as possible. They love the hour visit because they get more money and Monger finishes in 15 minutes and they kick him out! I know how to GameWorks and providers have also told me this. You cannot go wrong with a quick visit for 50 to 60 bucks. I always personally manage to get way more time than 15 minutes because I'm a charming guy. Once I make the providers smile or get her to laugh. I know I will not be rushed and I will get extra time for 50 to 60 bucks. There's absolutely no difference in paying $200 As opposed to paying 50! None! I love quick visits. I walk in I fuck them and leave. I personally don't want to be remembered for anything special with these girls. I would much rather be forgotten.

Chris5.

[QUOTE=Swaganna;2581695]Mz. PorkyyyyyyDiVine.

I do see why only the head shots. By the looks of the super size everything you would be the last person to comment on anyone's weight.

Swags.[/QUOTE]2 year old photo babe. Kinda like the ones you use in ads. I have recent full body shots in my ad. Not to mention. You're used to a phone camera. My shots are mostly shot professionally. Again, my reputation speaks for itself.

Took me 10 seconds with one simple search to find a number of FREE videos on the various major porn sites.

Not into BBWs, but from what I saw don't think you could fault Jenna's oral skills.

What if they don't offer QVs? There are a couple of providers that I'm dying to see and don't offere QVs. Do you then go for the hh? I have gone for the hh sometimes because I don't want to offend and I really wanted to see them. Let me know what you think.

ST99.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2581683]This question gets ask to me a lot by many of my friends outside of this board. Should a monger do a quick visit, a half hour or an hour? Quick visits are always the way to go. Most providers charge $120 for half hour And up to 200 for the full hour. How many guys have walked in for an hour pay $200 and got kicked out in 15 or 20 minutes? It happens way more often than we think. Half hour visits are another huge waste of time. These providers want you in and out as quickly as possible. They love the hour visit because they get more money and Monger finishes in 15 minutes and they kick him out! I know how to GameWorks and providers have also told me this. You cannot go wrong with a quick visit for 50 to 60 bucks. I always personally manage to get way more time than 15 minutes because I'm a charming guy. Once I make the providers smile or get her to laugh. I know I will not be rushed and I will get extra time for 50 to 60 bucks. There's absolutely no difference in paying $200 As opposed to paying 50! None! I love quick visits. I walk in I fuck them and leave. I personally don't want to be remembered for anything special with these girls. I would much rather be forgotten.

Chris5.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chris5;2581675]I personally feel that meeting of provider's are a complete waste of time. Providers getting together at a brunch to talk about mongers is stupid. I guarantee the number one thing they will be discussing is how to get more money from us mongers. This is just MY opinion. And if mystical has ANYTHING to do with this brunch it will be a guaranteed failure. I advise Mystical to sit all the way at the front of the table because she's definitely not the brightest apple on the tree! And take notes as you may forget what's being said. LOL! Love you mystical! LOL.

Chris5.[/QUOTE]Actually, 4 of us got together for dinner, and a show this evening. When we're enjoying our off time, you gents are the least of our worries. Meet and greets are more for discussing provider safety and possible new advertising options. Sounds like there is more than one person who is salty balls. Hahaha.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2581683]This question gets ask to me a lot by many of my friends outside of this board. Should a monger do a quick visit, a half hour or an hour? Quick visits are always the way to go. Most providers charge $120 for half hour And up to 200 for the full hour. How many guys have walked in for an hour pay $200 and got kicked out in 15 or 20 minutes? It happens way more often than we think. Half hour visits are another huge waste of time. These providers want you in and out as quickly as possible. They love the hour visit because they get more money and Monger finishes in 15 minutes and they kick him out! I know how to GameWorks and providers have also told me this. You cannot go wrong with a quick visit for 50 to 60 bucks. I always personally manage to get way more time than 15 minutes because I'm a charming guy. Once I make the providers smile or get her to laugh. I know I will not be rushed and I will get extra time for 50 to 60 bucks. There's absolutely no difference in paying $200 As opposed to paying 50! None! I love quick visits. I walk in I fuck them and leave. I personally don't want to be remembered for anything special with these girls. I would much rather be forgotten.

Chris5.[/QUOTE]Got to say I really hate this crap. It assumes three things: 1) The woman is only being with you because you are paying her. 2) The woman hates what she is doing. 3) The man has no idea how to treat a woman (in bed or otherwise).

Treat a woman with respect. Think about her, her interests, pleasing her and paying her a fair rate for her time and see what a difference it makes. Recently the internet made a big deal out of a chicken restaurant boss who continued to pay his employees for 5 months while the restaurant was being renovated. Everyone was saying they wish they had a boss like that. Imagine if you were a client that every escort wished she had. Clean, respectful, knew how to and care about pleasing a her.

Back in my younger days I used to post reverse ads. Offer a certain amount for any hour and have the girls contact me to book. I would get a room in a nice hotel and order roses, wine, strawberries and whipped cream. I would see 2-4 women a night. And, no, this is not some Jaguar fantasy. Amazing that guys who always demand a GFE don't get that being a BFE is the way.

There is a difference between just getting off and being with a woman. Just like there is a difference between a boy and a man.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2581675]I personally feel that meeting of provider's are a complete waste of time. Providers getting together at a brunch to talk about mongers is stupid. I guarantee the number one thing they will be discussing is how to get more money from us mongers. This is just MY opinion. And if mystical has ANYTHING to do with this brunch it will be a guaranteed failure. I advise Mystical to sit all the way at the front of the table because she's definitely not the brightest apple on the tree! And take notes as you may forget what's being said. LOL! Love you mystical! LOL.

Chris5.[/QUOTE]You need to pull that burr out of your ass and remember I live not too far from your job. I'll ride by Monday and wave, he'll I just might stop in to say my hellos. You need to go have a real good cry and get over being mad because I do not see eye to eye with or your needle junkie "Ho". You are very pathetic and it saddens me to see a human brain wasted like this.

We ladies do not sit around and discuss "Mongers". What we do is get a break from people like you and have a great time. It wouldn't be so "Stupid" as you call it, IF your STUPID ass was invited now would it! Didn't think so.

LOVE To SOME.

Xo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.

[QUOTE=Mystical0945;2582065]You need to pull that burr out of your ass and remember I live not too far from your job. I'll ride by Monday and wave, he'll I just might stop in to say my hellos. You need to go have a real good cry and get over being mad because I do not see eye to eye with or your needle junkie "Ho". You are very pathetic and it saddens me to see a human brain wasted like this.

We ladies do not sit around and discuss "Mongers". What we do is get a break from people like you and have a great time. It wouldn't be so "Stupid" as you call it, IF your STUPID ass was invited now would it! Didn't think so.

LOVE To SOME.

Xo Ashley.

Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.[/QUOTE]Please stop by! Can you bring the watermelons I asked for dumb ass? Remember to sit up front and take notes. LOL.

Chris5.

[QUOTE=ExecTalent;2582062]Got to say I really hate this crap. It assumes three things: 1) The woman is only being with you because you are paying her. 2) The woman hates what she is doing. 3) The man has no idea how to treat a woman (in bed or otherwise).

Treat a woman with respect. Think about her, her interests, pleasing her and paying her a fair rate for her time and see what a difference it makes. Recently the internet made a big deal out of a chicken restaurant boss who continued to pay his employees for 5 months while the restaurant was being renovated. Everyone was saying they wish they had a boss like that. Imagine if you were a client that every escort wished she had. Clean, respectful, knew how to and care about pleasing a her.

Back in my younger days I used to post reverse ads. Offer a certain amount for any hour and have the girls contact me to book. I would get a room in a nice hotel and order roses, wine, strawberries and whipped cream. I would see 2-4 women a night. And, no, this is not some Jaguar fantasy. Amazing that guys who always demand a GFE don't get that being a BFE is the way.

There is a difference between just getting off and being with a woman. Just like there is a difference between a boy and a man.[/QUOTE]Executive Talent what type of drug are you on? What planet are you from? What country are you living in? Your post was by far the dumbest I've ever read on this board! You assume that women don't think that this is just a job? Try showing up to a session with no cash and see how that sweet woman reacts. Of course they hate there you idiot! You think they look forward to servicing MONGERS? You brought roses and dinner and chocolates for your provider's? Your out of your mind. You think she respects you for that. This ain't [URL]match.com[/URL] motherfucker! You show up and fuck and leave. Now if you what to sit there are wine and dine go ahead! Because when you leave her ass a monger like me will show up and drop my coin and fuck her brains out and walk out the door. No roses or gifts or shit. Go ahead and do you executive talent. LOL. Just stay the fuck out of my way! Idiot!

A BFE? LOL!

Chris5.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2581683]This question gets ask to me a lot by many of my friends outside of this board. Should a monger do a quick visit, a half hour or an hour? Quick visits are always the way to go.

Chris5.[/QUOTE]Chris,

I actually do partially agree with you. There are days that a QV, one-and-done, in-and-out visit is what I want. There are days when bargaining for donation is part of the sport of our hobby. You are also right, the lady is playing a part. She is an actress. What you miss is that some are better actresses than others. Also, there are times when a three-day-getaway at a resort with a drop dead gorgeous lady is what we want, not a quickie. Then there are all the things in between.

May I introduce you to a part of this hobby we do not discuss? It is the whole Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy scene. Think of a very beautiful young Ginger. Most of the visits are in the four-hour to overnight range with the occasional weekend romp. The payoff is the Sugar Daddy is the only one boppin' the Sugar Baby and she actually genuinely plays the part very well. The lady has a real day job but enjoys some finer things in life because of the arrangement.

Granted, this part of the hobby is not for everyone. If your pony's one trick is to go for price point then you don't belong there. You will never understand it.

Just don't judge those of us that do because there are days when a QV and out the door works, days when an hour works (assuming you pick the right lady, and there are many that will help us get the most out of that hour, they aren't all crooks like you believe), days when a BJ on OBT works, days when several hours works (including a drive through the country with the top down between cups of tea, something I personally find to be a fun time), days where waking up next to an amazingly gorgeous young lady works, and I could go on and on.

So, go for it. Go for the McDonald's dollar meal specials. Most of us do that, too. But we also enjoy some Panera's from time to time, and some Olive Garden and from time to time, as we have discussed here a few times, a perfectly aged steak in a first-class atmosphere is what we want and nothing else will do.

What I don't understand is this shit of you thinking you are right and everyone else is wrong on this issue.

C3.

[QUOTE=Camera3;2582262]Chris,

I actually do partially agree with you. There are days that a QV, one-and-done, in-and-out visit is what I want. There are days when bargaining for donation is part of the sport of our hobby. You are also right, the lady is playing a part. She is an actress. What you miss is that some are better actresses than others. Also, there are times when a three-day-getaway at a resort with a drop dead gorgeous lady is what we want, not a quickie. Then there are all the things in between.

May I introduce you to a part of this hobby we do not discuss? It is the whole Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy scene. Think of a very beautiful young Ginger. Most of the visits are in the four-hour to overnight range with the occasional weekend romp. The payoff is the Sugar Daddy is the only one boppin' the Sugar Baby and she actually genuinely plays the part very well. The lady has a real day job but enjoys some finer things in life because of the arrangement.

Granted, this part of the hobby is not for everyone. If your pony's one trick is to go for price point then you don't belong there. You will never understand it.

Just don't judge those of us that do because there are days when a QV and out the door works, days when an hour works (assuming you pick the right lady, and there are many that will help us get the most out of that hour, they aren't all crooks like you believe), days when a BJ on OBT works, days when several hours works (including a drive through the country with the top down between cups of tea, something I personally find to be a fun time), days where waking up next to an amazingly gorgeous young lady works, and I could go on and on.

So, go for it. Go for the McDonald's dollar meal specials. Most of us do that, too. But we also enjoy some Panera's from time to time, and some Olive Garden and from time to time, as we have discussed here a few times, a perfectly aged steak in a first-class atmosphere is what we want and nothing else will do.

What I don't understand is this shit of you thinking you are right and everyone else is wrong on this issue.

C3.[/QUOTE]There are A couple of things that you may be correct about but most of your post is dead wrong. The price component is the main factor. A three day weekend with a hottie could easily run a thousand coins easy. NOT including food and drunk. I would advise maybe a one day tour. Pricing is out of control. Now if mongers want to be a sugar Daddy or ride through the country with top. Down with a cutie or wake up next to a cutie then that's there business AND there coins. Everything costs something! But don't you tell me the sex will be the same whether you pay a thousand or a 60 coin quick visit. No fucking difference! You will never understand my logic on this issue and I don't care! You have always been a part of the problem in this city. Do you also buy roses and chocolates and strawberries and whip cream for your lovely provider's? Have at it C3! I will happily stick to my quick visits.

Chris5.

[QUOTE=SuperToro99;2582028]What if they don't offer QVs? There are a couple of providers that I'm dying to see and don't offere QVs. Do you then go for the hh? I have gone for the hh sometimes because I don't want to offend and I really wanted to see them. Let me know what you think.

ST99.[/QUOTE]You don't want to offend a provider? Your words not mine. Who's paying for this dream? YOU are correct? So why care who you may offend! If a provider refuses a quick visit you simply pick up your phone and call another girl. And make it a point of telling her that is what you're going to do. I don't care how hot the girl is and she refused to take a quick visit, then you call another hot girl! It's not hard. Don't be weak and timid. That hundred and twenty dollars you're going to spend for that half hour you got the same thing if you spend 50 bucks from that girl. Oh but I forget you don't want to offend anyone?

Chris5.

Thank you for the response. Although, I respect the senior member advice, I don't always agree with it. Yes, I guess it would be as simple as calling the next QV dream. What I missed to add was the fact that, more often than not, I like to spend time getting comfortable and get to know the provider. And it does not always fit into a 15 minute session. Maybe it's just me but this makes for the provider comfortable as well and the dream becomes a better experience for both of us. Now, a headache relief qv dream is occasionally needed. And I have my favorites when that happens. To each his own I guess.

Thank you again C5, for your honesty.

ST99.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2582294]You don't want to offend a provider? Your words not mine. Who's paying for this dream? YOU are correct? So why care who you may offend! If a provider refuses a quick visit you simply pick up your phone and call another girl. And make it a point of telling her that is what you're going to do. I don't care how hot the girl is and she refused to take a quick visit, then you call another hot girl! It's not hard. Don't be weak and timid. That hundred and twenty dollars you're going to spend for that half hour you got the same thing if you spend 50 bucks from that girl. Oh but I forget you don't want to offend anyone?

Chris5.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Chris5;2582139]Executive Talent what type of drug are you on? What planet are you from? What country are you living in? Your post was by far the dumbest I've ever read on this board! You assume that women don't think that this is just a job? Try showing up to a session with no cash and see how that sweet woman reacts. Of course they hate there you idiot! You think they look forward to servicing MONGERS? You brought roses and dinner and chocolates for your provider's? Your out of your mind. You think she respects you for that. This ain't [URL]match.com[/URL] motherfucker! You show up and fuck and leave. Now if you what to sit there are wine and dine go ahead! Because when you leave her ass a monger like me will show up and drop my coin and fuck her brains out and walk out the door. No roses or gifts or shit. Go ahead and do you executive talent. LOL. Just stay the fuck out of my way! Idiot!

A BFE? LOL!

Chris5.[/QUOTE]Batman comics would not be very interesting without the Joker, now, would they. Guess which one you are?

As a matter of fact, I have shown up without money on a number of occasions. I can do that. A jackass like you never could; which if you were paying close attention, was my whole point. Women in the business do invite me to lunch, dinner and drinks. You, they take your money and try to get you out the door as soon as possible.

Treat a women like a hoe and she will behave like a hoe.

Often people are so desperate for what they want that they don't see the way to get it is just by being respectful, thoughtful and nice. Go to a strip club and smile and look the girl in her eyes while she is dancing. At the end of the night she is not going to remember and go home with the guy who gave her the most money but with the guy who thought she was more than T & A.

I have been preaching this sermon for a long time. Some guys get it, but most don't. In one country where I live there are brothels. At the end of the night, rather than travel two hours on a couple buses, the girls often will go home with a customer. From years of experience, I can tell you that she is going to be sleeping next to and having awesome sex with the guy who made her feel comfortable. The socially inept will be shaking his head, bemoaning his place in life and going home alone.

Chris5, jerks like you make me look good. Thanks for that.

That point is that Chris can't even last long enough to do a hh date. This guy has basically admitted that he's a three pump chump. With that knowledge in hand, he's correct in only doing 15 minute visits. I'll bet if the girls offered five minute sessions, he'd be all over that because that's all the time he needs.

[QUOTE=Swaganna;2582214]This one said 2015. Not much has changed LOL.

Swags.[/QUOTE]Like I said, over 2 years old. You're getting these from sites that are FREE. Also known as pirated video. I wouldn't expect you to know that, since you have absolutely no clue about the industry. If you were intelligent enough to find the original, you'd see that due to my hectic schedule, I have not been able to shoot since 2014. However, I have been making plans to shoot again in December while I'm on winter break. But thanks so much for all of the free promo.

[QUOTE=Vino7373;2582416]That point is that Chris can't even last long enough to do a hh date. This guy has basically admitted that he's a three pump chump. With that knowledge in hand, he's correct in only doing 15 minute visits. I'll bet if the girls offered five minute sessions, he'd be all over that because that's all the time he needs.[/QUOTE]The fact is, he can't spend more than 15 because he lets his emotions take over and he falls in love. Look at all the posts about Brandi still, she's moved on bro, but will he, probably not. He was surely agreeing to 30 min visits when he was begging me for a visit, as I let folks know right up front, that is not something I offer. Fact of the matter is, you get what you pay for most of the time, and furthermore, nothing good is cheap, and nothing cheap is good! A man wouldn't choose low price over quality when it comes to a vehicle, and he just sits his ass in it. So why would one consider low price over quality when it's something (in Christopher's case) or someone he's sticking his dick into?

[QUOTE=Vino7373;2582416]That point is that Chris can't even last long enough to do a hh date. This guy has basically admitted that he's a three pump chump. With that knowledge in hand, he's correct in only doing 15 minute visits. I'll bet if the girls offered five minute sessions, he'd be all over that because that's all the time he needs.[/QUOTE]Being e.

Think your comment says it all. End of discussion!

BTW, thanks for the shout-out on the 1000th post.

Been telling guys for a long time that just because everyone has an asshole doesn't mean you have to be one.

[QUOTE=Vino7373;2582416]That point is that Chris can't even last long enough to do a hh date. This guy has basically admitted that he's a three pump chump. With that knowledge in hand, he's correct in only doing 15 minute visits. I'll bet if the girls offered five minute sessions, he'd be all over that because that's all the time he needs.[/QUOTE]Vino believe it or not you bring up a very good point. Trust me it was by pure accident on your part as you're too fucking stupid to do it on your own. There are several termas in Rio that ABSOLUTELY do dates for 5 minutes or less. Anyone who have to Centro can back up my statement. I have been to Rio more times than I can count. These termas do indeed offer sessions by the minute and are very cheap! The girls are hit or miss but there's always that one diamond in the rough. Guy's like me call this sport fucking. We love banging a variety of girl's for cheap. This is not love asshole! No a race to show how long a guy can last. Nothing at all to prove to these girls. These termas in Rio are as low as 10 Reals for up to a half hour! 10 reals in Rio using our dollar is only about 5 dollars USD. That's pretty cheap, also the vila mosa in Rio is cheaper than that. Beautiful girls all over for 5 to 10 USD.

I honestly feel the 50 to 60 bucks QV visits here in the states is way to much. So vino just to be clear with you I want to say two word's to you, FUCK YOU!

Chris5.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2582284]But don't you tell me the sex will be the same whether you pay a thousand or a 60 coin quick visit. No fucking difference!
Chris5.[/QUOTE]Chris,

Are you shittin' me? Trust me on this one, they are NOT all the same. There is a MAJOR difference in quality out there. And it usually follows price points pretty accurately, although, there are a few ladies that ask far more than they are worth (we call them unemployed) and even fewer that are under priced (we call them golden opportunities, realizing it is a only a matter of time before they figure it out).

C3.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2582294]You don't want to offend a provider? Your words not mine. Who's paying for this dream? YOU are correct? So why care who you may offend! If a provider refuses a quick visit you simply pick up your phone and call another girl. And make it a point of telling her that is what you're going to do. I don't care how hot the girl is and she refused to take a quick visit, then you call another hot girl! It's not hard. Don't be weak and timid. That hundred and twenty dollars you're going to spend for that half hour you got the same thing if you spend 50 bucks from that girl. Oh but I forget you don't want to offend anyone?

Chris5.[/QUOTE]Do we even get into a debate with someone who dines at Mcdonalds, stays (doesn't live now) but stays in Pine Hills. Obviously doesn't have a real legal job. Minimal education. The closest he's gotten to fine dining is parking cars for a valet service. Thinks all sex is the same and price is the only thing that counts, which indicates that he's never had a long intimate, wet, teasing session with a sensual woman.

He has 'Monkey sex" where you grab the female and hold her down, stick it in come in 10 seconds and be on your way looking for a cheap meal or a free banana to eat.

Arguing with a cretin who can't even control his part of the dialogue enough that he feels the need to call other adults ignorant meaningless names based only on his weak-minded beliefs.

He obviously hasn't been in the game long because he if he were he would know QV is a recent phenomenon, hours were the norm, half hours came in during the height of the recession when people were watching their money, QV's started when the SW's invaded the internet and the pimps started posting their stable, even the QV's cost more money than the street, so the SW's and pimps are fine with that pricing and when the phone dies they hit the stroll again.

This guy has maybe a year on the board and over 900 posts but mosts are "Popcorn posts" starts with a kernel and pops into a fluffy piece of hot air, saying little or nothing. Real all the "nice one bro, I'll have to see her posts" etc. ,etc. ,etc. He also glorifies the posts of an average SP and posts sickening goo about her and yet she posts half hr. $120, Hr. $200 and obviously he paid it but everyone else who does it is stupid. Make up your mind little boy, which is it?

VS.

[QUOTE=Chris5;2582284]There are A couple of things that you may be correct about but most of your post is dead wrong. The price component is the main factor. A three day weekend with a hottie could easily run a thousand coins easy. NOT including food and drunk. I would advise maybe a one day tour. Pricing is out of control. Now if mongers want to be a sugar Daddy or ride through the country with top. Down with a cutie or wake up next to a cutie then that's there business AND there coins. Everything costs something! But don't you tell me the sex will be the same whether you pay a thousand or a 60 coin quick visit. No fucking difference! You will never understand my logic on this issue and I don't care! You have always been a part of the problem in this city. Do you also buy roses and chocolates and strawberries and whip cream for your lovely provider's? Have at it C3! I will happily stick to my quick visits.

Chris5.[/QUOTE]Then he posts this.

I have to give it to him, he is just full of surprises.

[QUOTE=PharmaGuy;2582737]Then he posts this.

I have to give it to him, he is just full of surprises.[/QUOTE]Sup dude, dope post! Yawl know I'm flowin' from Compton where the cheese is made! OOPS I was channeling the "5" for a moment!

Thats not all he's full of, also Merde, Mierda unt Schiesse, ya, ya.

Herr—VS.

To PG, C3, and Chris5 it's called capitalism. You are worth what you can get on a regular basis, not the other way around. Just like the NFL and no different. You are worth what they will pay you. And if you ask too much, you won't get it on a regular basis. I was bashed on here for saying that for 300 bananas there are a lot of great choices and better than a 38 year old mother MILF. You got to be kidding me. If it is 300 bananas, she better be under 30, no babies and low volume, and intimidatingly beautiful. If you are only making 30 bananas, sorry, that's what you are worth. And this is just my personal opinion. For me, 5-30 banana SW's are never ever as good as one top notch pro with a good incall for one full hour. I choose a quality incall with a quality pro anyday and anyway over 4 or 5 car dates. I did the SW for a while, and too many surprises. And the ones everyone was thrilled over were just ok to me. It is like going to 5 little league football games, VS going to an a good NFL game. Just my opinion and my taste. The street can be downright nasty and I don't care if you think you know what you are doing or not, it is dangerous in much more ways than you are thinking of. On the bunny trail, I was confronted with H and crack dealers, LEO, cameras, boyfriends, pimps, pissed off mongers, and actually was in a fight in front of Sonny's (yes that was me). But the worst thing is a SW's who just dijested three hot dogs and then I was next. She was not carrying a tooth brush or mouth wash. No thanks. Have not been there for a while. To think I have to drive up and down the bunny trail looking for the 30 banana class is no longwer appealing to me. I may be wrong, but for me it is as truthful as I can be, and only my opinion.

[QUOTE=Swaganna;2582789]Why don't you post a full front body pic then? Hell I did 3 and one again your information you kind to sprea false. Only 2 pics on my ad are from a year agi, ALL others are this year and 3 of them within a couple months. And all your videos it shows the same tub of lard so please which is it? Let's see a full frontal pic.

Swags.[/QUOTE]Apparently you can't read, or refuse to accept facts. I have never. Not once lied about who I am. The photos on my ad are real and recent, as recent reviews have stated. When was the last time you got a LEGIT review? My last review said it was an "EXPLOSIVE" time. I don't owe you shit, and I certainly don't have anything to hide. You're the one making a fool out of yourself here. Truth be told hags, I'm fat because I'm not addicted to hardcore narcotics, unlike yourself. My addictions are good food and good sex. From the number of chins in your mugshot, you should be advertising as a BBW as well. Infact, I used to advertise with pics from those same shoots when they were recent photos. The photo attached, that has been on my ad's recently, was taken June 1st. Now, some of us have better things to do. It's a shame you live such a miserable life, and are so concerned with what everyone else is doing instead of doing you and taking care of all the issues you have. I guess it's easier to look at the faults of others and not your own, especially when you're such a fucked up individual.

[QUOTE=Jonah1;2582790]To PG, C3, and Chris5 it's called capitalism. You are worth what you can get on a regular basis, not the other way around. Just like the NFL and no different. You are worth what they will pay you. And if you ask too much, you won't get it on a regular basis. I was bashed on here for saying that for 300 bananas there are a lot of great choices and better than a 38 year old mother MILF. You got to be kidding me. If it is 300 bananas, she better be under 30, no babies and low volume, and intimidatingly beautiful. If you are only making 30 bananas, sorry, that's what you are worth. And this is just my personal opinion. For me, 5-30 banana SW's are never ever as good as one top notch pro with a good incall for one full hour. I choose a quality incall with a quality pro anyday and anyway over 4 or 5 car dates. I did the SW for a while, and too many surprises. And the ones everyone was thrilled over were just ok to me. It is like going to 5 little league football games, VS going to an a good NFL game. Just my opinion and my taste. The street can be downright nasty and I don't care if you think you know what you are doing or not, it is dangerous in much more ways than you are thinking of. On the bunny trail, I was confronted with H and crack dealers, LEO, cameras, boyfriends, pimps, pissed off mongers, and actually was in a fight in front of Sonny's (yes that was me). But the worst thing is a SW's who just dijested three hot dogs and then I was next. She was not carrying a tooth brush or mouth wash. No thanks. Have not been there for a while. To think I have to drive up and down the bunny trail looking for the 30 banana class is no longwer appealing to me. I may be wrong, but for me it is as truthful as I can be, and only my opinion.[/QUOTE]Please allow me to welcome you back to the Trap. I really enjoyed reading your post. You have your views and opinions and I have mine. Now I strongly disagree with most of your post but I'm sure you already know that. The 300 coin an hour girl will NEVER be for me. No fucking way! I can easily get 15 trail girls for that amount and they will not only look pretty dam good, most will all do the same thing sexually as your nice little ONE 300 girl. So 15 girls or 1 girl? I think I'll take the 15 girl's! LOL! Now you may enjoy one girl in a nice clean in call with a nice complimentary glass of champagne and strawberries upon your arrival and there's nothing wrong with that Jonah. However that 300 plus tip coin you are spending is something I would maybe consider spending for an entire weekend. From Friday to Sunday. For one hour? No fucking way. I respect your view but I disagree with your view. Yes you are correct in saying the trail is no joke and can be dangerous. OBT is not for everyone. I love the trail and East 50 and the trail in the 561 and OT in the MIA and Nebraska ave in Tampa. It's the thrill that does it for me. We all monger differently. My issue here in Orlando is the stupid mongers overpaying for pussy.

Chris5.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly;2582710]Do we even get into a debate with someone who dines at Mcdonalds, stays (doesn't live now) but stays in Pine Hills. Obviously doesn't have a real legal job. Minimal education. The closest he's gotten to fine dining is parking cars for a valet service. Thinks all sex is the same and price is the only thing that counts, which indicates that he's never had a long intimate, wet, teasing session with a sensual woman.

He has 'Monkey sex" where you grab the female and hold her down, stick it in come in 10 seconds and be on your way looking for a cheap meal or a free banana to eat.

Arguing with a cretin who can't even control his part of the dialogue enough that he feels the need to call other adults ignorant meaningless names based only on his weak-minded beliefs.

He obviously hasn't been in the game long because he if he were he would know QV is a recent phenomenon, hours were the norm, half hours came in during the height of the recession when people were watching their money, QV's started when the SW's invaded the internet and the pimps started posting their stable, even the QV's cost more money than the street, so the SW's and pimps are fine with that pricing and when the phone dies they hit the stroll again.

This guy has maybe a year on the board and over 900 posts but mosts are "Popcorn posts" starts with a kernel and pops into a fluffy piece of hot air, saying little or nothing. Real all the "nice one bro, I'll have to see her posts" etc. ,etc. ,etc. He also glorifies the posts of an average SP and posts sickening goo about her and yet she posts half hr. $120, Hr. $200 and obviously he paid it but everyone else who does it is stupid. Make up your mind little boy, which is it?

VS.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately for you this will be my last response to your dumb ass. You know what I have learned here in Orlando this past year? Most dudes are douche bags. Most have zero clue how to monger. Most are old like yourself. This is a new age old man and that shit you're talking is boring to me. Glad you notice my post count! You like that don't you? Don't hate you ugly * Certain members on this board I will always engage and debate with, Camera3 is at the top of that short list. But YOU? No fucking way! You're a nobody to me. So preach all you want preacher. I ain't changing shit! You don't like my posts? Don't read them. Put me on ignore. Problem solved.

Chris5.