Non Pro's

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8a5a8538-55ee-43cc-bc42-62357f77ddd6[/URL]

Profile pic is of porn star Nikole Nash.

[URL]https://www.twpornstars.com/p/31751569[/URL]

Been chatting with her a bit, seems a little pro, anyone dived into this one yet?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1bc23547-c109-4805-8ace-4700676fb9c0[/URL]

DM me info if you'd prefer.

Any one have any experience with this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/27ee584b-8a1d-4b2f-aa80-d692c020eca3[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/1d0431de-c5a1-43aa-aac0-5270478207c0[/URL]

GPS. Wanted $700, hasn't replied to counter offer.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9aa11722-1fe5-4c81-acc7-0cc3206233b4[/URL]

Wants 500 pm, was a hard pass on bb.

Fun girl DTF, no dinner date needed.

Very reasonable price for me. Seen her a few times but moving on.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be0802aa-e999-4e9b-830f-50ddad304be4[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ac2c46d7-2382-40aa-a59f-cdf3a4bd60b8[/URL]

I contacted her and her response was to ask if I paid for meet and greets.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5457746]Fun girl DTF, no dinner date needed.

Very reasonable price for me. Seen her a few times but moving on.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be0802aa-e999-4e9b-830f-50ddad304be4[/URL][/QUOTE]Did you get BBFS?

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5459057]Did you get BBFS?[/QUOTE]We enjoyed natural play.

[QUOTE=Buck1138;5444969]Anybody have any info on Sadie M.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d27f157f-699c-4e7f-82ac-728c1486aae3[/URL]

Feel free to pm me.[/QUOTE]I knew her from before covid and lost her contact. Just hoping someone might be willing to share her number. I just don't want to pay the 90 bucks just to get her number again. Thanks.

Also why do I care? Yeah she's a big broad but she was really into fisting and boy is that hard to find.

I usually only renew a membership when I've found maybe 5-6 girls I think (or read in this forum) are legitimate and not time-wasting, GPS gold-diggers.

So, imagine my surprise to see this idiotic statement from SA today: "Standard members can only request to view private photo 5 times. Upgrade to unlock unlimited requests. ".

So, unless you pay the ridiculous $90 - 99 subscription fee, you are SOL requesting private photos. How does SA even stay in business? These rates are ridiculous, considering the overwhelming majority of "girls" on the site are fake.

It's a terrible business model.

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5459402]I usually only renew a membership when I've found maybe 5-6 girls I think (or read in this forum) are legitimate and not time-wasting, GPS gold-diggers.

So, imagine my surprise to see this idiotic statement from SA today: "Standard members can only request to view private photo 5 times. Upgrade to unlock unlimited requests. ".

So, unless you pay the ridiculous $90 - 99 subscription fee, you are SOL requesting private photos. How does SA even stay in business? These rates are ridiculous, considering the overwhelming majority of "girls" on the site are fake.

It's a terrible business model.[/QUOTE]You're literally wrong that a majority are fake. That being said, I understand your frustration. I never ask a girl for private photos. However, one way I get a girls' attention when I am not paid is to open my own private photos to them. That puts a message in their inbox, unlike a 'like'. They often will respond in kind.

And BTW, just now, when I logged on, I saw a 20% discount on membership. I am buying mine tomorrow.

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5459402]So, unless you pay the ridiculous $90 - 99 subscription fee, you are SOL requesting private photos. [/QUOTE]Not sure what you're on about because that's how every site works, even standard dating sites. Yes, SA's rates are high but it's honestly better than match.com which charges you by the feature- you can end up with a monthly recurring charge above $200. I'm the first to rant about hoes with GPS but even so, if you can't afford the monthly or every three month fee for SA how much action are you really going to get in this hobby?

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5459402]I usually only renew a membership when I've found maybe 5-6 girls I think (or read in this forum) are legitimate and not time-wasting, GPS gold-diggers.

So, imagine my surprise to see this idiotic statement from SA today: "Standard members can only request to view private photo 5 times. Upgrade to unlock unlimited requests. ".

So, unless you pay the ridiculous $90 - 99 subscription fee, you are SOL requesting private photos. How does SA even stay in business? These rates are ridiculous, considering the overwhelming majority of "girls" on the site are fake.

It's a terrible business model.[/QUOTE]Yeah I expected that. They had a huge surge in membership during covid. A lot of good deals around and they increased their rates come Jan 1 - 2021 and that was the beginning of the BS.

Had a few dates with this one last year but never followed up. Anybody have any intel? Tia.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/16608...a-cd9613c6c7bc[/URL]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5457746]Fun girl DTF, no dinner date needed.

Very reasonable price for me. Seen her a few times but moving on.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be0802aa-e999-4e9b-830f-50ddad304be4[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5459057]Did you get BBFS?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5459062]We enjoyed natural play.[/QUOTE]She looks hot. Thanks for sharing. Her inbox probably has 150 PMs by now. So I will hold off for the time being.

Many have written about how much BS is on [URL]seeking.com[/URL], and I agree. However there are hidden gems to be found. I have been keeping in touch with a few that I started chatting with during Covid quarantine, and recently finally been meeting up. I met one last night, went to her place. Great body, huge tits, average face (definitely not pretty, but not ugly either), but OMG!! We started out meeting at a local park where we found a quiet spot and started good old fashioned making out, high school style. Lots of groping. My hands roamed everywhere and when I could feel how wet her pussy was I suggested we go to her place where we stayed for the rest of the evening and pretty much fucked or sucked the entire time. And after a while we were bare-backing because getting another condom was too much work. She is a nympho. Like my dick is tired & sore this morning.

And all she wants is lousy crap from her Amazon wish list. I will be seeing her again tonight for anal (last night she wasn't cleansed & prepared for it). This has been worth it.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5459525]Not sure what you're on about because that's how every site works, even standard dating sites. Yes, SA's rates are high but it's honestly better than match.com which charges you by the feature- you can end up with a monthly recurring charge above $200. I'm the first to rant about hoes with GPS but even so, if you can't afford the monthly or every three month fee for SA how much action are you really going to get in this hobby?[/QUOTE]This!

Look I know the chicks I meet on SA are still selling sex, but for a lot of them it is a different level. For one if they don't like your pics or your game, unless you are seriously high rolling they pass on you.

So if you don't have some game, and not able to meet for dinners or drinks and build a bit of chemistry and have zero game via text, phone etc. Go back to the hooker board.

Or not! Because you make me stand out that much more on SA.

But not 750 hot for a few hours of fun. Know if you wants to hangout for the weekend.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/87d9c709-ab85-40db-8aea-81a5d63b303a[/URL]

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5462347]But not 750 hot for a few hours of fun. Know if you wants to hangout for the weekend.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/87d9c709-ab85-40db-8aea-81a5d63b303a[/URL][/QUOTE]She told me 450 ppm for a hour, no kissing and everything covered. She sent me a face pic and she's definitely cute, but I passed.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0acd7dee-f07b-4c6c-8dd9-6270961c3144[/URL]

Either GPS or scammer. Wants 3-4 K month and asks it you can cashapp her to prove that you're not a pretender. I told her that I don't pay without meeting first, then she ghosts me. Not surprised.

Since this is my 1st post on this subject I wanted to share my exp being on SDM for a while now, despite being through on filtering out its been unsuccessful on landing real dates or the expectations are way over the roof.

I wanted to check out SA too and see what's cooking in there too but since the subscription is relatively high to SDM I wanted to get an opinion on should I get it anyway and give it a try or stick with SDM and keep trying.

Also I've had a few flaked out last min after all the arrangements are made, how do you gents cut your losses at that time and move on?

Met with an old SB today. We talked a few times, but she wanted to go on dates and didn't want to have sex, so I moved on.

So, we had lunch today. We talked about moving forward again and I told her that I really wasn't interested if sex wasn't involved. She said it was now definitely on the table. So, I asked what changed her mind (pay attention here). She said a guy contacted her and told her he would give her $2,000 if she spent the night with him. So she did it. She actually hated the experience (the guy told her there would be no limits and she agreed, not knowing how utterly depraved us men actually are), but since then realized that if she wants to be a SB, she needs to put out and is now open to it.

$2,000 for a night. That's your competition.

2,000 for an overnite (8-12 hrs) is kind of a discount for a no limits session with a hottie. I mean, objectively and all.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5463825]Met with an old SB today. We talked a few times, but she wanted to go on dates and didn't want to have sex, so I moved on.

So, we had lunch today. We talked about moving forward again and I told her that I really wasn't interested if sex wasn't involved. She said it was now definitely on the table. So, I asked what changed her mind (pay attention here). She said a guy contacted her and told her he would give her $2,000 if she spent the night with him. So she did it. She actually hated the experience (the guy told her there would be no limits and she agreed, not knowing how utterly depraved us men actually are), but since then realized that if she wants to be a SB, she needs to put out and is now open to it.

$2,000 for a night. That's your competition.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a0e15942-c1d7-4ea9-b5d9-af325bbe0c4c[/URL]

GPS and smells like drama.

She contacted me and as she's not too terrible looking for her age, at least as it seems from the one pic posted, I went with the flow just to see what's what because usually the older ones are less drama. We moved to text and when I went out of signal for a couple hours she sent a text and a message on SA trying to shame me for not responding in time. That's a huge red flag for me, I have no tolerance for high maintenance hoors in this hobby. I'll fucking text you when I text you, you can answer or not as you choose, but the moment you start making demands on my time or schedule I'm out.

Never really got into details about what her boundaries are but she did message that she's "very sexual" YMMV. She wants $1500/mo which is way out of line with her looks and age.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5463972][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a0e15942-c1d7-4ea9-b5d9-af325bbe0c4c[/URL]

GPS and smells like drama.

She contacted me and as she's not too terrible looking for her age, at least as it seems from the one pic posted, I went with the flow just to see what's what because usually the older ones are less drama. We moved to text and when I went out of signal for a couple hours she sent a text and a message on SA trying to shame me for not responding in time. That's a huge red flag for me, I have no tolerance for high maintenance hoors in this hobby. I'll fucking text you when I text you, you can answer or not as you choose, but the moment you start making demands on my time or schedule I'm out.

Never really got into details about what her boundaries are but she did message that she's "very sexual" YMMV. She wants $1500/mo which is way out of line with her looks and age.[/QUOTE]$325-350/ wk isn't bad if you get her once a week. Take a look at TNA and see what you would get for $325-350 an hour.

[QUOTE=Flyer99;5463898]2,000 for an overnite (8-12 hrs) is kind of a discount for a no limits session with a hottie. I mean, objectively and all.[/QUOTE]I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5464022]I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).[/QUOTE]I find 500 or 600 fair for an overnight with minimal boundaries and a hot young lady.

For 2000 a night I'd expect young porn starlet looks and skills and enthusiasm and pretty much nonstop action all night. And the only boundaries would be how filthy my imagination was.

But 200-300 or 500 is definitely not the Seattle price. Luckily there are other cities and countries.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5464022]I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5464035]I find 500 or 600 fair for an overnight with minimal boundaries and a hot young lady.

For 2000 a night I'd expect young porn starlet looks and skills and enthusiasm and pretty much nonstop action all night. And the only boundaries would be how filthy my imagination was.[/QUOTE]I agree. $2 K for a night, she'd need without limits.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5463825]Met with an old SB today. We talked a few times, but she wanted to go on dates and didn't want to have sex, so I moved on.

So, we had lunch today. We talked about moving forward again and I told her that I really wasn't interested if sex wasn't involved. She said it was now definitely on the table. So, I asked what changed her mind (pay attention here). She said a guy contacted her and told her he would give her $2,000 if she spent the night with him. So she did it. She actually hated the experience (the guy told her there would be no limits and she agreed, not knowing how utterly depraved us men actually are), but since then realized that if she wants to be a SB, she needs to put out and is now open to it.

$2,000 for a night. That's your competition.[/QUOTE]I usually cap out at $500 and maybe go a little over if I'm thinking with the little head / the girl is really hot. After 500 I find you get really diminishing returns. Usually the girls that want that much are pros or (worse IMO) strippers. I've had multiple "girlfriend experience" overnights for 300-500 with what I would consider at least 8/10's. They are "no limits" as far as I'm concerned. Like sure if you want some girl who does anal all the time (not really my thing) or let's you shit on her you may have to pay extra, but for full "girlfriend experience" which is way more fun IMO.

Sugar babies always quote their best / most generous sugar daddy. If you have 0 game and treat SA as a pussy delivery service, expect high end escort prices and high end escort services. I wouldn't even consider my game good (maybe 2/10) but it's enough to get me in the door at a much lower price point.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5464020]$325-350/ wk isn't bad if you get her once a week. Take a look at TNA and see what you would get for $325-350 an hour.[/QUOTE]I am pretty sure I posted about her under a different SA user name. I had her come over to my hotel one morning I think we did 200 for the date.

[QUOTE=FlashLidar;5462988][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0acd7dee-f07b-4c6c-8dd9-6270961c3144[/URL]

Either GPS or scammer. Wants 3-4 K month and asks it you can cashapp her to prove that you're not a pretender. I told her that I don't pay without meeting first, then she ghosts me. Not surprised.[/QUOTE]Plus, she's "overwhelmed with messages right now" and instructs that you "order from (her) wi $hlist" to grab her attention. Right.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5464022]I'm leaving the country soon on vacation. I've been setting up my dates now on SA. $200-300 for the night is the high-end of what I'm being quoted. I've had an extremely hot woman overnight for $500 on SA in the US (but not in Seattle).[/QUOTE][QUOTE=MrPumpNDump;5464405]I usually cap out at $500 and maybe go a little over if I'm thinking with the little head / the girl is really hot. After 500 I find you get really diminishing returns. Usually the girls that want that much are pros or (worse IMO) strippers. I've had multiple "girlfriend experience" overnights for 300-500 with what I would consider at least 8/10's. They are "no limits" as far as I'm concerned. Like sure if you want some girl who does anal all the time (not really my thing) or let's you shit on her you may have to pay extra, but for full "girlfriend experience" which is way more fun IMO.

Sugar babies always quote their best / most generous sugar daddy. If you have 0 game and treat SA as a pussy delivery service, expect high end escort prices and high end escort services. I wouldn't even consider my game good (maybe 2/10) but it's enough to get me in the door at a much lower price point.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=TheNovelist;5464394]I agree. $2 K for a night, she'd need without limits.[/QUOTE]Agree with all the comments here, my budget is in the 300-500 range as well. For me though I would not consider an all nighter unless I have seen her before and know that we will click. Even if she is great in bed. If I am spending anything more than 2-3 hrs with someone I need to know we can talk and are aligned on things. I actually love my space and once I have cum a couple times and have had my fun, I really do not want additional time with a person unless I know both of us will gel. I have done overnights very rarely and most of them have gone exceptionally well because I have planned them and only committed after spending shorer appts. Micheal. I know you started this thread mostly for your travels. That is a similar situation under which I have done a few as well. Mostly I usually message them for a while before the visit and then do a quick short meet when we are there. I typically do that with as many women I can so that I have choices for the actual overnight.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5464020]$325-350/ wk isn't bad if you get her once a week. Take a look at TNA and see what you would get for $325-350 an hour.[/QUOTE]Fair point, but not, in my opinion, for an average looking middle aged sb.

[QUOTE=Original703;5464779]Plus, she's "overwhelmed with messages right now" and instructs that you "order from (her) wi $hlist" to grab her attention. Right.[/QUOTE]This is what's so fucked up about this hobby, and especially when dealing with SBs who are hoes who don't think they are hoes- the customer / service-provider dynamic is bass ackwards. They want us to pay them for the 'priviliege' of catering to their needs and whims. Fuck that shit. I'll jerk off until the day I die before I become a simp who goes in for that.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5465311]This is what's so fucked up about this hobby, and especially when dealing with SBs who are hoes who don't think they are hoes- the customer / service-provider dynamic is bass ackwards. They want us to pay them for the 'priviliege' of catering to their needs and whims. Fuck that shit. [/QUOTE]+1. They (SPs, SBs or whatever you want to call them) only behave this way because we allow and condone that type of behaviour.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5465311]This is what's so fucked up about this hobby, and especially when dealing with SBs who are hoes who don't think they are hoes- the customer / service-provider dynamic is bass ackwards. They want us to pay them for the 'priviliege' of catering to their needs and whims. Fuck that shit. I'll jerk off until the day I die before I become a simp who goes in for that.[/QUOTE]This is just women in general. It all costs money and time but I do think that overall, the SA / SB thing is worth it. Sometimes I tire of the effort that has to be put in because you have to work a ton of girls and deal with the fakes, the flakes, the ones who are fatter than their pictures, and the ones who realize that they're being hookers and back out. But every time I get impatient, I go and fuck Bently or something.

[URL]https://seattle.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/f-re-r-qy/297333399380[/URL]

And I quickly go back to realizing that SA girls are just so much better. I mean, if you want to talk about fucked up, then try going back to doing normal dates with regular women. I took out this girl Ashley in Pensacola last month on consecutive dates. Meals totaled to $220 and entertainment was $160. And yeah, I fucked her all night after the second date but the time investment was enormous along with the energy expended to keep up conversation and constantly spit game. For all the negatives about the hobby, this way of life allows me to stay way more focused on my professional life as well as allows me to be a completely attentive father because there's no embedded woman to distract me. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but this is the correct way to live.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a6ef6e34-21d7-4290-a283-9d6727156e23[/URL]

She went by Bhamlady9 in a prior profile, and her "Find Out" tagline was the same. We hit it off via messaging and she was sending me selfies and videos of her masturbating. She wanted to visit Seattle so I got her a round trip Greyhound bus ticket for 45 bucks. The night before, she told me how excited she was to meet me. The day of her trip arrived and she ghosted and blocked me on SA. I even went to the bus station at the time of her return trip and she wasn't there, so she didn't use the tickets. Very odd!

I like to think I can sniff out a scam, but I got taken for a 45 dollar ride. Sigh. I've got tons of selfies and masturbation videos though. It seems like she put in a lot of work for a couple cheap bus tickets that she didn't end up using.

[QUOTE=DrTraveler;5465473][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a6ef6e34-21d7-4290-a283-9d6727156e23[/URL]

She went by Bhamlady9 in a prior profile, and her "Find Out" tagline was the same. We hit it off via messaging and she was sending me selfies and videos of her masturbating. She wanted to visit Seattle so I got her a round trip Greyhound bus ticket for 45 bucks. The night before, she told me how excited she was to meet me. The day of her trip arrived and she ghosted and blocked me on SA. I even went to the bus station at the time of her return trip and she wasn't there, so she didn't use the tickets. Very odd!

I like to think I can sniff out a scam, but I got taken for a 45 dollar ride. Sigh. I've got tons of selfies and masturbation videos though. It seems like she put in a lot of work for a couple cheap bus tickets that she didn't end up using.[/QUOTE]Bitches be crazy man. She clearly didn't have the decency to even let you know that she was no longer interested. She probably sold the tickets to a friend or someone who needed to travel. Move on. You will never figure out what was going on in her twisted mind.