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Thanks, HG. Appreciate the offer. Our paths are not so different. I've been a part of SAA for over 15 years. Have a sponsor, and have been a sponsor for others, as well. My post had more to do with old wounds when the addiction was raging in me. I'm at peace with it, but my biggest struggle is the inability to be intimate. This form of repetitive hobbyist behavior has changed my responses and when it comes to women, I'm like a Pavlovian dog, which makes it an uphill struggle to connect with a woman emotionally, and I miss that. I'm currently in therapy and hoping to wind down what has been a very long hobby and find satisfaction with one woman who will understand my history and not be appalled or frightened by it.
I will admit that I've had a helluva of a lot of fun with this lifestyle which has made it hard to give up, but also, a good deal of frustration and doldrums that put me down face-first.
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[QUOTE=DashBelli;2605994]Thanks, HG. Appreciate the offer. Our paths are not so different. I've been a part of SAA for over 15 years. Have a sponsor, and have been a sponsor for others, as well. My post had more to do with old wounds when the addiction was raging in me. I'm at peace with it, but my biggest struggle is the inability to be intimate. This form of repetitive hobbyist behavior has changed my responses and when it comes to women, I'm like a Pavlovian dog, which makes it an uphill struggle to connect with a woman emotionally, and I miss that. I'm currently in therapy and hoping to wind down what has been a very long hobby and find satisfaction with one woman who will understand my history and not be appalled or frightened by it.
I will admit that I've had a helluva of a lot of fun with this lifestyle which has made it hard to give up, but also, a good deal of frustration and doldrums that put me down face-first.[/QUOTE]Not to be a know it all. But I have the same problem to a lesser degree. So occasionally I find a girl that needs a little help but some how expects that without the sex. In very rare circumstances (like the one I am in now) I will hookup (minus the sex) with a girl like this. I have one living with me now. My "bikini girl". She is sleeping in my bed, she lets me touch her and kiss her all over but not her pussy or mouth, and there is no sex. I don't pay for her except food once a day. So if she stays here all month it could cost be 6 bills. But I get to talk to her like a GF and cuddle her every night. And we do everything a couple would do except have sex.
Last nite I had to make her leave for two hours so I could fuck my ATF and after she came home she wasnt in the best mood, but oh well. I got her over it before we went to sleep and today we will spend all day together doing stuff. I dont know what will happen tonite. If she is really nice to me I might be able to skip my usual nite time "date" and miss a day of sex. But with out all the loneliness and emptiness. I cant have a real GF as that is too much pressure. So this is my current happy medium. It can get confusing and coping for me is on a daily and sometimes hourly basis. Glad to hear you are dealing with your OC behavior. I deal with mine daily, hourly and sometimes by the minute. But somehow I manage. And pretty well I might ad. Good luck to all.
Or I have a roommate where we just do it like twice a week but the rest of the time we just chill and they leave when I need to fuck on the other 4 days (as I usually take at least one day off). Obviously you would have to be single to do this). Sometimes the girls are chill and I might have two here at once. But if a girls skills are not amazing but they are willing to hang out all day and nite it helps compensate and then I fuck less random girls. I been doing this off and on for like 7 years.
Also my compulsion isnt to have a different girl every nite. Its more about intense role play. So I have to see the same girls more often to train them. Mostly I date other girls to find ones that are trainable. But once I do I push them to whatever extreme I can. This is how I get the intimacy i need. As the intimacy I need goes beyond a simple GF type relationship.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2606082]Not to be a know it all. But I have the same problem to a lesser degree. So occasionally I find a girl that needs a little help but some how expects that without the sex. In very rare circumstances (like the one I am in now) I will hookup (minus the sex) with a girl like this. I have one living with me now. My "bikini girl". She is sleeping in my bed, she lets me touch her and kiss her all over but not her pussy or mouth, and there is no sex. I don't pay for her except food once a day. So if she stays here all month it could cost be 6 bills. But I get to talk to her like a GF and cuddle her every night. And we do everything a couple would do except have sex.
Last nite I had to make her leave for two hours so I could fuck my ATF and after she came home she wasnt in the best mood, but oh well. I got her over it before we went to sleep and today we will spend all day together doing stuff. I dont know what will happen tonite. If she is really nice to me I might be able to skip my usual nite time "date" and miss a day of sex. But with out all the loneliness and emptiness. I cant have a real GF as that is too much pressure. So this is my current happy medium. It can get confusing and coping for me is on a daily and sometimes hourly basis. Glad to hear you are dealing with your OC behavior. I deal with mine daily, hourly and sometimes by the minute. But somehow I manage. And pretty well I might ad. Good luck to all.
Or I have a roommate where we just do it like twice a week but the rest of the time we just chill and they leave when I need to fuck on the other 4 days (as I usually take at least one day off). Obviously you would have to be single to do this). Sometimes the girls are chill and I might have two here at once. But if a girls skills are not amazing but they are willing to hang out all day and nite it helps compensate and then I fuck less random girls. I been doing this off and on for like 7 years.
Also my compulsion isnt to have a different girl every nite. Its more about intense role play. So I have to see the same girls more often to train them. Mostly I date other girls to find ones that are trainable. But once I do I push them to whatever extreme I can. This is how I get the intimacy i need. As the intimacy I need goes beyond a simple GF type relationship.[/QUOTE]Much respect to you and the other gentlemen for being so open an honest. I think this will actually help a few of us. I realize even though we don't know it each other that it's still hard to be open with your personal life.
Just wanted to say thank you for sharing. I appreciate it and I'm sure others who don't post also appreciate it as well.
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BTW, there's a book that many here should read. It's called "The Hobbyist. " I took my screen name from the main character in the book. Reading it was like reliving a page out of my life. I actually met the guy in New York at an SAA meeting. He banged something like 4 thousand women, and the majority were non-pros, which is a hard thing to do. As hard as this guy went down, he overcame it. And to hear him speak and see that he's married and moved on was inspiring.
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Thanks for being so honest and upfront about your struggles, it really is very helpful and coming at a time when I can really use it.
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[QUOTE=DashBelli;2606499]BTW, there's a book that many here should read. It's called "The Hobbyist. " I took my screen name from the main character in the book. Reading it was like reliving a page out of my life. I actually met the guy in New York at an SAA meeting. He banged something like 4 thousand women, and the majority were non-pros, which is a hard thing to do. As hard as this guy went down, he overcame it. And to hear him speak and see that he's married and moved on was inspiring.[/QUOTE]Just ordered it off amazon.
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[QUOTE=DashBelli;2604693]You have to tread lightly here because you are probably at a turning point from being a casual hobbyist to an actual sex addict.
My case is an extreme example, but there are a lot of guys out there like me who swear every week that they're done with this hobby, and a few days later were back in the sack with an Asian hooker. My advice is to tone it down. Don't do it more than a couple times a week and you can probably enjoy a long career as a casual hobbyist. The thing about it is that I love doing it with women I don't know, but the addiction comes with depression, loss of friends, mood swings, dark secrets, lack of intimacy, money drain and on and on.[/QUOTE]400 girls in 10 months is a lot, but, to me, this has been one of the few things, and sometimes the only thing, that keeps the depression away. I see so many guys married with kids who ignore them and a wife that hates them and they are ten times more depressed than I've ever been. Those guys wish they could fuck one girl a month, let alone 40. Being "normal" does not mean you will be happy. Being fulfilled is what makes you happy, and if you don't believe me, see how happy a child is with an ice cream cone, or a Special Ed type is with life's simple delights. Guys with Ferraris aren't usually very happy.
I, also, get off on the stranger factor. While I love my regular girls and if I find a sexy beauty I want to see her regularly, the insanity of a complete stranger sucking my cock gets me off like nothing else. Think about how hard you have worked on just getting a date with a girl, let alone crossing the line to sex. How much money and time and energy do you put in? But a hooker will give you a professional knob job for two minutes of conversation and twenty bucks. Sometimes while she's sucking, all I'm thinking is "You don't even know my name. " It's a special kind of thrill.
You have a problem when it starts to ruin your life. When you're driving around until the sun comes up and then sleeping until after noon and you get no work done, or you can't pay your rent because you've spent all your money on hookers, then you have a problem. Liking having your dick sucked is fine. Every guy wants that. Unfortunately, they think they will get it by wasting money on an engagement ring and a nice house that she takes in the divorce.
One of the keys to life is not letting anything take it over. You don't give up control of your life to sex, drugs, booze, other people, religion, work or whatever. It all becomes a form of slavery. Do what you need to get done, and then do what makes you happy. If fucking 400 women doesn't make you happy, then don't do it.
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Big Thank You
Just wanted to thank everyone HERE from the bottom of my heart.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-H0uIH5HHQ[/URL]
Special shout out to Jackson and A2 for the sandbox.
To all the contributers, readers, doers and nondoers alike.
To my Libra lover. You're still motivating and pushing me. I accept apoligies.
Namaste.
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Leaving?
Wow C1,
Are you leaving or something? I hope not, since I love your adventures.
[QUOTE=Christophe1;2633942]Just wanted to thank everyone HERE from the bottom of my heart.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-H0uIH5HHQ[/URL]
Special shout out to Jackson and A2 for the sandbox.
To all the contributers, readers, doers and nondoers alike.
To my Libra lover. You're still motivating and pushing me. I accept apoligies.
Namaste.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Christophe1;2633942]Just wanted to thank everyone HERE from the bottom of my heart.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-H0uIH5HHQ[/URL]
Special shout out to Jackson and A2 for the sandbox.
To all the contributers, readers, doers and nondoers alike.
To my Libra lover. You're still motivating and pushing me. I accept apoligies.
Namaste.[/QUOTE]I hope this is just a shotout and not a goodbye. I have really enjoyed your posts about your life in women, church girl, etc. You are quite the goal to reach.
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[QUOTE=SuckerBill;2607563]I, also, get off on the stranger factor. While I love my regular girls and if I find a sexy beauty I want to see her regularly, the insanity of a complete stranger sucking my cock gets me off like nothing else. [/QUOTE]I once asked a pro I dated a dozen or so times, what single thing turned her on the most. Her reply was "when I hear the knock on the door from a complete stranger".
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Wait what?
[QUOTE=Christophe1;2633942]Just wanted to thank everyone HERE from the bottom of my heart.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-H0uIH5HHQ[/URL]
Special shout out to Jackson and A2 for the sandbox.
To all the contributers, readers, doers and nondoers alike.
To my Libra lover. You're still motivating and pushing me. I accept apoligies.
Namaste.[/QUOTE]Say it aint so!
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[QUOTE=Christophe1;2633942]Just wanted to thank everyone HERE from the bottom of my heart.
[URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-H0uIH5HHQ[/URL]
Special shout out to Jackson and A2 for the sandbox.
To all the contributers, readers, doers and nondoers alike.
To my Libra lover. You're still motivating and pushing me. I accept apoligies.
Namaste.[/QUOTE]Really? I loved your posts. But do what feels right. Maybe we'll be reading them again. Either way, good on ya!
Love the Jam reference!