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[QUOTE=PantyLoverF;3470368]Has anyone see this girl yet? It looks to be a new add. Called today and she charges $ and works out of a small private office in Ferndale. Said for the price it's full body massage and topless. It seems right now she is just working Sundays. I plan to visit next Sunday. If anyone has seen her please let me know. I will report back after I see her. Seems nice on the phone and up front with what she offers.

[URL]https://detroit.craigslist.org/okl/t...218196158.html[/URL][/QUOTE]Only a topless massage for 100? Seems like more should be on the menu for a buck.

Wow.

[QUOTE=Chemanon;3470205]Thats true. However, you should be doing some recon ahead of time to minimize any exposure. If you're seeing folks hanging around outside giving you the look down for a lot of detail, maybe LE maybe not, but you better be aware of it. Theres nothing more incriminating than a car pulling up, a John on his phone while just waiting (you know of any other legit reason to hang out in a car in a motel parking lot for 5/10 minutes unless you don't know where you're going?) Texting the sting number, while they run your plates and background check, then knocking on the door? You can't even argue wrong number / different scenario, or much of anything. Prevention goes a lot further than anything else and not standing out as a mark goes a long way for prevention.

Well don't get caught with your pants down!

1-recon, neighborhood, area / individuals, reviews, her number, social media, etc.

2-lock the door before you get started.

3-check the bathroom for unwanted guests.

Who's going to be surprising you at that point? A knock on the door. That's it.

Leave. Why do you need to see me and my car before you do business? If you want to be impressed by my car, you're not accepting cash for other activities. This is not a date. You're not grading me for my looks. You're accepting currency, that's why you're doing this. Looking for me to get out of my car says you know my car is free from the owner for the next 15-30 minutes.

Also, if they ask, put it up here so the general community knows that that individual is a risk. Will other people go see them? Sure. But only those either too dumb to do any research or those willing to take that risk. But the more that behavior is avoided the more likely the community can direct business to the good behaviors we want.[/QUOTE]Agree with points 1-3 and there are great points on the Forum boards for Do's & don't's for AMPs, SW etc. A few to add.

4. Have your clothes ready for the knock or potential trouble. I was mid session once, and had to pull out. The clothes were at the ready and was dressed faster than Batman going down the bat pole!

5. She starts texting as you go to the room or after banging. IF she is a drugie she will be most likely texting for her fix. Offer $5 to see the text. They'll show you.

6. Enjoy yourself but always have your Spidey sense ON!

7. Agree recon and park away or other side of the notel. IF your in shape to bang your in shape to run out. I like notels near (1/4 mile) to a business. A quick get away place.

8. Do what you feel comfortable. May seem like a PIA to set up, recon etc. Worth the worry free drama!

I'm sure there is more to add.

Hobby safe!

[QUOTE=Chemanon;3470205]Thats true. However, you should be doing some recon ahead of time to minimize any exposure. If you're seeing folks hanging around outside giving you the look down for a lot of detail, maybe LE maybe not, but you better be aware of it. [b]Theres nothing more incriminating than a car pulling up, a John on his phone while just waiting (you know of any other legit reason to hang out in a car in a motel parking lot for 5/10 minutes unless you don't know where you're going?) Texting the sting number, while they run your plates and background check, then knocking on the door?[/b] You can't even argue wrong number / different scenario, or much of anything. Prevention goes a lot further than anything else and not standing out as a mark goes a long way for prevention.[/QUOTE]I'm sure once you knock on the door you're done. I can't see LE watching every car that pulls into the parking lot, but who knows.

[QUOTE=Chemanon;3470205]1-recon, neighborhood, area / individuals, reviews, her number, social media, etc.

[b]2-lock the door before you get started.

3-check the bathroom for unwanted guests.

Who's going to be surprising you at that point?[/b] A knock on the door. That's it.[/QUOTE]Her pimp, I would assume he has a key to the room.

[QUOTE=Chemanon;3470205]Leave. Why do you need to see me and my car before you do business? If you want to be impressed by my car, you're not accepting cash for other activities. This is not a date. You're not grading me for my looks. You're accepting currency, that's why you're doing this. Looking for me to get out of my car says you know my car is free from the owner for the next 15-30 minutes.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming they want to see you get out of your car as some type of LE check. I'm sure it has nothing to do with being impressed, your looks, or a date. This is another reason why I park right by the main entrance, so her people don't break into my car while I'm gone for the next 15-30 minutes.

[QUOTE=Chemanon;3470205]Also, if they ask, put it up here so the general community knows that that individual is a risk. Will other people go see them? Sure. But only those either too dumb to do any research or those willing to take that risk. But the more that behavior is avoided the more likely the community can direct business to the good behaviors we want.[/QUOTE]I agree, that type of info should be posted and remembered.

[QUOTE=PokerHard;3471083]I'm assuming they want to see you get out of your car as some type of LE check. I'm sure it has nothing to do with being impressed, your looks, or a date. This is another reason why I park right by the main entrance, so her people don't break into my car while I'm gone for the next 15-30 minutes.[/QUOTE]Anytime I was asked what I'm driving. I lie. Sure they could just be being safe and making sure who to expect. Etc. However what about them possibly setting you up. Soon as you arrive to a girls location you have to call and confirm appointment to get their room number or address any ways. So there is no positive for letting them know what your riding in.

I can't seem to access Windsor or anywhere in ca for that matter. Is Backpage Ca shutdown? If it is I hope it's temporary. I do visit Windsor occasionally.

Xircom.

[QUOTE=XirCom;3471531]I can't seem to access Windsor or anywhere in ca for that matter. Is Backpage Ca shutdown? If it is I hope it's temporary. I do visit Windsor occasionally.

Xircom.[/QUOTE]Had the same problem don't know what's going on.

Backpage cut off access to foreign backpage sites when originating in the USA You can get to BP Canada by using a Web proxy. Try hide. Me / en / proxy.

[QUOTE=XirCom;3471531]I can't seem to access Windsor or anywhere in ca for that matter. Is Backpage Ca shutdown? If it is I hope it's temporary. I do visit Windsor occasionally.

Xircom.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Nyybry;3471425]Anytime I was asked what I'm driving. I lie. Sure they could just be being safe and making sure who to expect. Etc. However what about them possibly setting you up. Soon as you arrive to a girls location you have to call and confirm appointment to get their room number or address any ways. So there is no positive for letting them know what your riding in.[/QUOTE]True, but some girls will cut you off if you don't do what they say. Ginger Starr did it to me.

[QUOTE=Averily;3471703]Backpage cut off access to foreign backpage sites when originating in the USA You can get to BP Canada by using a Web proxy. Try hide. Me / en / proxy.[/QUOTE]Do you know why BP did that?

Went to see Joy today. She was high as could be, totally out of it. I left without giving her a dime. As soon as I backed out of the parking spot her pimp went into the room. She will not get a second chance with me.

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[QUOTE=PokerHard;3471739]Went to see Joy today. She was high as could be, totally out of it. I left without giving her a dime. As soon as I backed out of the parking spot her pimp went into the room. She will not get a second chance with me.

[URL]http://detroit.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/sexy-freak-on-deck/28452891[/URL][/QUOTE]Hook up with her one time not the best hook up. I every had may be that's why.

[QUOTE=PokerHard;3471068]I'm sure once you knock on the door you're done. I can't see LE watching every car that pulls into the parking lot, but who knows.[/QUOTE]Knocking on the door for what? What would I be charged with? Solicitation? My phone doesn't even have the number I contacted with. Not giving Any alternative reason for coming means the prosecution has to prove what you're there for and without any contact with the individual then they have nothing if they pick you up at the door. It has to be incriminating with the individual-you have to say it or directly imply the trade. Not saying you even want to be picked up, this the recon point, but if there's massive holes in the charge they'll knock it down or drop it. It's in the room where they get direct confirmation for the strongest cases.

[QUOTE=PokerHard;3471078]Her pimp, I would assume he has a key to the room.[/QUOTE]I should expect so, but most hotel rooms have the latch that only allows the door to be partially opened with a key. That's the lock you have to check. Can they bypass that? Of course, but not as fast as a quick entry. It's enough of a forewarning to get ready to dash.

Not trying to be harsh with feedback, but 1-common sense goes a long way. Critical thinking even further. 2-if you have a question, more oft than not there's a bunch of people lurking with the same question (s). It's good to ask periodically, for your benefit and to remind everyone of good practices to stay safe. Like for me, no bb ever, and no kissing for hsv-1. However, I know some people really want that. Their call, just be aware of the risks.

Stay safe out there!