"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

My 2 cents, if the girl is talking to you, she is flirting. The question is where she wants to take that. I am sure she likes the attention your paying her. I would expect you could do something publicly one on one and find the opportunity to hug / brush up against her and see the reaction.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1884691]My brothers,

I had a second class with my hot, hot yoga teacher yesterday, and I just can't figure out what's going on. Maybe wiser minds than mine can weigh in.

So I get to class and see that Jennifer is the teacher for that time slot. Scottie immediately starts his stretching exercises, and I smile broadly as I approach the sign-in desk. She looks up, sees it's me, and smiles as well, saying "Hey Scott, it's good to see you. I've missed you the past couple of weeks." (I have been going in the afternoons due to work load, so this is the first time I'm back at my normal morning time).

I reply that I've missed her as well, and am glad to see her teaching, since she always inspires me to push myself a little harder. As I'm standing there, she is clearly looking me over, at least I think (hope) she is. I go into the class room, and put my mat directly in front of the teacher's platform, which is not my normal spot, so as to have an unobstructed view of the Fineness That Is Jenny.

Class starts, and she is not wearing the skimpy unitard from last time, but has changed into a cotton bikini top and small, tight cotton "boy shorts", so I now have a clear view of her fantastic, toned, taut body, superfine ass, and that sweet spot just a few inches above the camel toe. Scottie is losing it at this point, and I am thankful that my shirt is not tucked into my shorts.

As class progresses, she gets sweatier and sweatier, until her entire body is glistening, and her clothes are soaked through. Again, I can clearly see that she is shaved, and I am dizzy with excitement, while at the same time I am struggling to get the poses, maintain my balance, and working like a dog.

After class, I chat her up a bit, saying again how glad I am to see her, and she tells me that she was noticing how much I've improved since I started, and how much more defined and muscular my body is (which it is, but when you start with a marshmallow.) We laugh a bit more, then I head out and that was that.

So my question to you all is this: was she flirting? And if so, what is my next step? I realized as I was heading to work that I have been spoiled somewhat by my time in the Bowl in that I know that the baby I'm talking to at the m&g understands where we are headed, provided all hurdles are mutually cleared. With Yoga Baby, I don't know what is next. Continue to flirt? Is that as far as it will go? Ask her out for coffee? Ask for a private class? Do nothing? Enjoy the frisson and let it go at that? What to do?

On the one hand, my gut says she is flirting, but on the other hand, maybe she just likes to get attention from older guys. The last thing I want to do is come off like a creep. Again, what would your next step be, knowing that I am totally out in the open here in terms of secret identity? The only thing she doesn't know about me is my ATM password.

I await your wisdom, and as a side note am happy to see so many newbies signing in. It is a grand adventure, that is certain, but not for the faint of heart.

Namaste,

Scott[/QUOTE]

Wow. Not used to this CL civi dating. I saw my 21 year old responder (picture in prior post). She has sort of a hippy girl attitude. She believes in free love, that may not be so freely given. Now I know why I SD date. The rules are clear and my time is dear.

This girl has to like me for real for real and is not hard up for great sex or money. Which is bestowed upon her by man and woman alike (and steady work). I spent 12 hours with her today just to get to know her, and not in a biblical way.

There was no talk of sugar or spice or anything nasty or nice. Her last SD. Yes there was one (and only one). Was an overly generous fool that she actually kicked to the curb for being too possessive and not very sexual. Not problems she is likely to encounter from me.

So only time will tell if this girl rings my bell.

BTW... I did finally figure out how to get real girls to respond to my CL ad. All I will say is I dropped my shotgun and picked up my 22.

We had an impromptu meeting last night. Our Tiggabounce date is tonight I wanted to have a quick meeting to make out some more and prime the pump per se. It was supposed to be an hour of getting coffee and dessert, but I got delayed and every thing was closed. So we rode around some and talked until I found a parking lot overlooking some water.

There I told some funny SB stories and kept sprinkling in long kisses. Eventually it turned into a hot make out session with my hands all over that body. Since it was a fairly public place I did not want to get in the backseat, so I had her get out and we continued outside leaning on the hood. This girl is extremely passionate. She loves kissing and she knows how to move that body. At some point she turned around and just started grinding that wonderful butt all over the Tiggastick, with my hands all over those boobs. It was like being in high school all over again. We easily spent over an hour total just kissing and rubbing our body parts all over each other.

It was late and I had a long drive. So we agreed to get a room tonight as part of our date. She asked a lot of sex questions as she really wants to please me tonight. On my way home I was marvelling at this find. She just turned 21, she is very sexual, follows instructions and very low maintenance. The plan is to enjoy her passionate juices tonight, Sunday and twice next week. After that I will get a better balance between her and MsLilMama. Interestingly, I cancelled a couch date with MsLilMama to see her last night.

8/9. 5/10/ (face / body / personality / skills)

I will update more after tonight.

BT

[QUOTE=Happy Lover; 1884579]Hi Guys,

I started seeing escorts earlier this year and I'm already over that scene. It just doesn't fulfill my needs. No emotional connection. Most young escorts have too many rules. I'm tired of these unappreciative escorts. I've helped out a few of them with barely a thank you.

I noticed this forum on the "Front Page" and it caught my eye. My hat is off to all of you for venturing out into the bowl. It's a fair amount of work to set up with intro letters, finances, emails, pictures, profiles, etc, before the fun even begins, and you have all put forth the effort with some GREAT results. I'm reading through your SD encyclopedia and it is a wealth of knowledge. I'll do my best to learn as much as possible before I start asking questions. I'd hate to be that F. N. G! LOL.

Work has been a bit slow as of late and it's cutting into my discretionary funds. For now I'll set up, learn, and contribute where I can. I'm looking forward to living up to my user name.

Happy Hunting,

HL[/QUOTE]Welcome Happy. You seem to be in the right place for the right reason with the right attitude. I wish you luck and you will find that done correctly, the sugar bowl is much more rewarding. Even if you paid the same amount as escorts, you will get more time, more priority, more passion and very willing sexual subjects.

Don't forget to write.

BT

Next time you see her tell her about how wonderful you feel since you've started doing yoga. Inevitably she'll say something about how much it's done for her, too. Off the cuff tell her something like "You know, it's not just my body but also my mind. I have felt calm and my whole outlook has changed." Since she has taken up yoga as a profession she will undoubtedly start to tell you about how it has changed her. You've now got a real and sincere conversation going. At that point all of the sudden you have somewhere you have to be right now, but you really want to talk to her more about it because you have been thinking so much about it."Maybe we can grab a coffee so I can hear the whole story? Can I give you a call when I know my schedule better? (if she hesitates) Or can we just plan on it after your next class?"

That would be my play. Totally harmless and not creepy if she says no or hesitates. I hear from women all the time that guys just aren't easy to talk to and connect with and they are always just hitting on them completely out of context. Listening, check, context, check.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1884691]My brothers,

I had a second class with my hot, hot yoga teacher yesterday, and I just can't figure out what's going on. Maybe wiser minds than mine can weigh in.

So I get to class and see that Jennifer is the teacher for that time slot. Scottie immediately starts his stretching exercises, and I smile broadly as I approach the sign-in desk. She looks up, sees it's me, and smiles as well, saying "Hey Scott, it's good to see you. I've missed you the past couple of weeks." (I have been going in the afternoons due to work load, so this is the first time I'm back at my normal morning time).

I reply that I've missed her as well, and am glad to see her teaching, since she always inspires me to push myself a little harder. As I'm standing there, she is clearly looking me over, at least I think (hope) she is. I go into the class room, and put my mat directly in front of the teacher's platform, which is not my normal spot, so as to have an unobstructed view of the Fineness That Is Jenny.

Class starts, and she is not wearing the skimpy unitard from last time, but has changed into a cotton bikini top and small, tight cotton "boy shorts", so I now have a clear view of her fantastic, toned, taut body, superfine ass, and that sweet spot just a few inches above the camel toe. Scottie is losing it at this point, and I am thankful that my shirt is not tucked into my shorts.

As class progresses, she gets sweatier and sweatier, until her entire body is glistening, and her clothes are soaked through. Again, I can clearly see that she is shaved, and I am dizzy with excitement, while at the same time I am struggling to get the poses, maintain my balance, and working like a dog.

After class, I chat her up a bit, saying again how glad I am to see her, and she tells me that she was noticing how much I've improved since I started, and how much more defined and muscular my body is (which it is, but when you start with a marshmallow.) We laugh a bit more, then I head out and that was that.

So my question to you all is this: was she flirting? And if so, what is my next step? I realized as I was heading to work that I have been spoiled somewhat by my time in the Bowl in that I know that the baby I'm talking to at the m&g understands where we are headed, provided all hurdles are mutually cleared. With Yoga Baby, I don't know what is next. Continue to flirt? Is that as far as it will go? Ask her out for coffee? Ask for a private class? Do nothing? Enjoy the frisson and let it go at that? What to do?

On the one hand, my gut says she is flirting, but on the other hand, maybe she just likes to get attention from older guys. The last thing I want to do is come off like a creep. Again, what would your next step be, knowing that I am totally out in the open here in terms of secret identity? The only thing she doesn't know about me is my ATM password.

I await your wisdom, and as a side note am happy to see so many newbies signing in. It is a grand adventure, that is certain, but not for the faint of heart.

Namaste,

Scott[/QUOTE]

I like the private lesson request Scottie. It is an obvious low key request for some 1 on 1 time with her and if she agrees you are in like Flint. Then you can probe where to do it .pun intended. Even if she says at the studio you will get lone time to continue the discourse, which hopefully will lead to intercourse.

Good luck! We are all in the Dog Down position awaiting the outcome of your session

Work has been kicking me lately, and at the same time a few long term development efforts paid off. The end result was a total lack of time to follow the board. But, I had to share this latest date.

About a year ago, I started I'm'ing with a 25 yod Indonesian girl from AM. I messaged her shortly after she joined, and she deleted her profile shortly after we made contact. She said most of the guys were "creepy".

She married an older gentleman who has performance issues evidently. We IM'd on and off for the past year, and she clearly wanted some fun. I could also tell she was very hesitant to step-out of her marriage. She did share lots of great pics though. She's not a spinner. A petite size 4, but has probably the most perfect 34D cup breasts I've ever seen- perky and not saggy.

Our last conversation (a few months ago) was that she wanted to focus on school and her marriage. I told her I admired her devotion and her husband was a lucky guy. I addded that I'd be here if she ever wanted to talk again.

A few days ago she shows up on IM after a long absence. I said hi and asked how she was doing. We had small talk for about 15 minutes, and then out of the blue she says "I'm super horny". I laughed and said "I'm always super horny!" and I added "too bad we can meet this afternoon". Much to my surprise, she says OK. I couldn't afford an afternoon away from the office, but I also couldn't pass up this opportunity. Lightning only strikes once. I arranged for a room near her, and she picked-up lunch. I provided the wine.

Gentleman. This woman hadn't had sex for 2+ years. I did my best to make-up for it in the 4+ hours we were together. We didn't do anything fancy. Just long passionate sex. Neither of us wanted to go, but we both knew we had to do so. She said she wanted to see me again. But contact has been limited since our date. I'd guess she's struggling with the morality of stepping out. Hopefully, she'll get "super horny" again here soon!

Brothers,

Thank you all for all the great advice. I agree that nothing ventured, nothing gained, and I will be no worse off than I am now. Being in the Bowl has certainly taught me how to talk to HYBs in an easy, flirty but respectful way, and I think I just have to go with that.

Fred, I also am liking the idea of a private class. My one small fear is that I won't be able to do all the poses to the level she will require, and I'll look like the creaky old fossil that I am. Offsetting this is the vision of a sweaty Jenn standing close and touching me to "correct" my posture. It would also give me a chance to talk her up a bit more in private. After class there are always other people milling around, the bastards!

Nostra, I also like the idea of starting a conversation which then gets interrupted, necessitating its continuance at a coffee shop at a later date. I may combine the two and see if I can get a better idea as to whether she is interested or not.

As for pretending I'm not married, that won't fly as I wear a wedding band, and she certainly has seen it. This gives me a small amount of hope, actually. She knows I'm married, so would only be expecting a mistress-type arrangement if things ever got that far. I need to be careful not to move too quickly, as I really don't want to stop going to yoga if things go south and she gets freaked out. On the other hand, if she seems receptive to something outside of class, we both know she is "seeing" a married man, which only leads to one place, the FC, right? Clearly this will take some time to unfold. It is not like an m&g with a baby from SA, where a $3. 00 latte and some joking around will get POTF the next time you are together. On the third hand, how much can a yoga teacher make? Maybe she is looking for some assistance, and the "hints" I have been getting are in fact legit.

In any event, onward! I spent the better part of last night thinking about how awesome it would be to bang that sweet little body, and there's no turning back. Maybe we could do it in the studio, at 110 degrees! Did I mention she has a pierced navel? The mind reels!

Tigg and Bike, great posts. It just goes to show you never know where the pussy can come from.

Scott

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1885436]Brothers,

Thank you all for all the great advice. I agree that nothing ventured, nothing gained, and I will be no worse off than I am now. Being in the Bowl has certainly taught me how to talk to HYBs in an easy, flirty but respectful way, and I think I just have to go with that.

Fred, I also am liking the idea of a private class. My one small fear is that I won't be able to do all the poses to the level she will require, and I'll look like the creaky old fossil that I am. Offsetting this is the vision of a sweaty Jenn standing close and touching me to "correct" my posture. It would also give me a chance to talk her up a bit more in private. After class there are always other people milling around, the bastards!

Nostra, I also like the idea of starting a conversation which then gets interrupted, necessitating its continuance at a coffee shop at a later date. I may combine the two and see if I can get a better idea as to whether she is interested or not.

Scott[/QUOTE]Scott. I'd play the long game here. We (guys) tend to take any interest from a HYB as flirting or interest. Some times they're just being nice. Some times they're just doing their job. Some times they are flirting! You need to figure out what she's doing. Could be she's just good at recruiting! .

Look for subtle hints that's she's flirting such as playing with her hair while talking to you etc. Build-up some rapport over time, and then go for it like you don't really care how she answers. If she says no, keep going to yoga. No reason to stop, and you might get a second chance.

Finally, I've had two FWB's over the last decade that were yoga instructors. They are definitely more open-minded than your average woman on the street. Tally-ho!

[QUOTE=BikeRider; 1885477]Scott. I'd play the long game here. We (guys) tend to take any interest from a HYB as flirting or interest. Some times they're just being nice. Some times they're just doing their job. Some times they are flirting! You need to figure out what she's doing. Could be she's just good at recruiting! .

Look for subtle hints that's she's flirting such as playing with her hair while talking to you etc. Build-up some rapport over time, and then go for it like you don't really care how she answers. If she says no, keep going to yoga. No reason to stop, and you might get a second chance.

Finally, I've had two FWB's over the last decade that were yoga instructors. They are definitely more open-minded than your average woman on the street. Tally-ho![/QUOTE]Bike,

I agree that I need to push my horizon out on this one, but it occurred to me today that the contemplation and slow pursuit of this is as much fun as when I buy a lottery ticket. I have no real expectation of winning, but the fantasies that play out in my head are more than worth the 2 bucks I've spent, and the possibility, however remote, is always there. As I see it, it is the cheapest entertainment around, and that is how I am going to think of this situation. At the very least, it will get me going to class on a regular basis, which I recommend to all the brothers out there. In seven months I have lost 20 pounds, 4 inches off my waist, and for the first time ever, even though I was an athlete in college, I have a clearly-defined six pack. Plus I am one of two or three guys in a hot room lined with mirrors with a dozen or more MILFS three to four times a week, and they are all toned and sweaty. It is soft-core porn at its best.

Back to Jenn, I am readjusting my expectations for this. She is not an SB, but a true civi, and I haven't pursued one of those for decades. It may be that nothing comes of it except some awesome daydreams, and of course yogic enlightenment, and I'm fine with that. I have other young pussies to attend to.

Be assured, my brothers, I will keep you up to date,

Scott

So I know I've told you all she is Asian, Japanese as it turns out (I've stalked her just a bit LOL) , so she has that thing where she has very little, if any, body hair. She is as slick as a little otter.

Good heavens,

Scott

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1885779]So I know I've told you all she is Asian, Japanese as it turns out (I've stalked her just a bit LOL) , so she has that thing where she has very little, if any, body hair. She is as slick as a little otter.

Good heavens,

Scott[/QUOTE]Important information. If she grew up in the US, then you still need to determine if she's flirting or being nice. If she grew up in Japan, you just won the lottery. Japanese women tend not to engage like you've described unless they're interested (unless they're westernized). The best year of my life was when a Japanese TV actress asked me out!

When the time is right don't ask her out. Tell her you're taking her out. Lots of guys will say "would you like to X". Instead say "Let's go do X". Its a subtle difference, but it makes a huge difference. Most women like men who are confident and make decisions. Since you've stalked her, take her for a smoothie between classes (no pun intended).

As for your observations about hot yoga, you're absolutely right. A former FWB (Cantonese) in LA a few years back was a hot yoga instructor. I'd attend her class when I was in town, and I was usually the only guy there. She was bisexual so we'd often talk about the eye candy later that day / night in bed!

[QUOTE=F Scott;1885724]t may be that nothing comes of it except some awesome daydreams, and of course yogic enlightenment, and I'm fine with that. I have other young pussies to attend to.[/QUOTE]Nothing like fucking one SB and thinking of another. These girls provide way more than enough fantasy materiel to never bother with porn. LOL

Wanted to say hi to everyone and been reading the forum first. Still haven't decided in which site to start. I live out in Michigan, not sure if there that many potential SB compared to Richmond, Virginia area. Only thing I know are the strip clubs here are much better than other states. In terms of extra. Tired of that scene and it is not cheap. Has any one had luck in Michigan? Or are certain states or city provide greener pasture than others?

Looking forward for some guidance and will contribute value back to the forum.

J. Draven

[QUOTE=John Draven; 1886084]Wanted to say hi to everyone and been reading the forum first. Still haven't decided in which site to start. I live out in Michigan, not sure if there that many potential SB compared to Richmond, Virginia area. Only thing I know are the strip clubs here are much better than other states. In terms of extra. Tired of that scene and it is not cheap. Has any one had luck in Michigan? Or are certain states or city provide greener pasture than others?

Looking forward for some guidance and will contribute value back to the forum.

J. Draven[/QUOTE]I say the pasture is as green as you make it. You would think a bigger city would be better, more girls etc. But I talk to girls around the country and it seems that in the smaller areas the girls are literally starving for attention. So don't let that stop you. What city you in?

Hello brothers. Figured I'd log my first progress report.

Plan B. Local bowl.

POT HYB turns into Nando1.

So it seemed initially the local scene wasn't going to generate any potentials, but this one started posting in my area on SA. We started to communicate and found she was planning to relocate to my city and was going to visit in a couple days to look for housing and visit some friends. So when she arrived I arranged to meet her at her hotel and when I got to her room she looked very much the 19 yr old innocent girl she had claimed to be. No makeup and looking she was still waking up, very cute. After about 30 minutes of chatting we sat together in the bed and she started snuggling up to me and in a few minutes more we started making out and that led to my first trip to the FC. Wow, hadn't had such young pussy in a while. She did seem to be less experienced but was pretty vocal about her enjoyment. After we cleaned up and chilled a bit longer I had to get back to work and left her her sugar. Seemed promising. I told her I probably wouldn't see her til she made her move and left it at that. We texted a bit and a couple days later she asked me to see her one more time before she left and it so happened my schedule opened up. So the morning of the second date she texts and asks if she can have a little extra sugar for her hotel and I think ok since I'm hoping I have my first SB.

She moves out here and starts texting for me to see her, but I'm too busy at work. A few days later she texts and asks to borrow 200, but I ignore since I had already told her I was busy. I finally got free a week later and texted her. She starts texting me asking to borrow 2500 for her rental deposit and that's when all the alarm bells and the wisdom of the brotherhood starts screaming my ears. Anyway long story short I questioned her wisdom in renting an expensive place and if she should rethink that decision and reminded her that we still had just met and while I was sympathetic I couldn't loan her the money. Haven't heard from her since, so I'm hoping I successfully dodged a bullet, but hoping I never run into her or she finds my identity. Hopefully she'll find it to expensive here and move back home.

Most of the other potentials locally have turned out to be flaky, but there is one more college SB I'm trying to meet.

Plan A. Arrange for visiting SB's.

Ideally find 2-3 SB's to visit me periodically throughout the year.

This has turned into a much more challenging prospect as I think many girls fear that I'm a creep, flake, or looking for an escort. I've been casting a wide net, but not too much progress. Many girls respond interested but when we get to logistics they stop responding. The ones that are ready to go are asking for 1000 a day and that's too steep. Those are probably pros I imagine.

Do you guys get verified? Do you get a better response?

Any guys with more experience with flying girls to you have any pearls of wisdom?

[QUOTE=Gogreen; 1886189]Hello brothers. Figured I'd log my first progress report.

Plan B. Local bowl.

POT HYB turns into Nando1.

So it seemed initially the local scene wasn't going to generate any potentials, but this one started posting in my area on SA. We started to communicate and found she was planning to relocate to my city and was going to visit in a couple days to look for housing and visit some friends. So when she arrived I arranged to meet her at her hotel and when I got to her room she looked very much the 19 yr old innocent girl she had claimed to be. No makeup and looking she was still waking up, very cute. After about 30 minutes of chatting we sat together in the bed and she started snuggling up to me and in a few minutes more we started making out and that led to my first trip to the FC. Wow, hadn't had such young pussy in a while. She did seem to be less experienced but was pretty vocal about her enjoyment. After we cleaned up and chilled a bit longer I had to get back to work and left her her sugar. Seemed promising. I told her I probably wouldn't see her til she made her move and left it at that. We texted a bit and a couple days later she asked me to see her one more time before she left and it so happened my schedule opened up. So the morning of the second date she texts and asks if she can have a little extra sugar for her hotel and I think ok since I'm hoping I have my first SB.

She moves out here and starts texting for me to see her, but I'm too busy at work. A few days later she texts and asks to borrow 200, but I ignore since I had already told her I was busy. I finally got free a week later and texted her. She starts texting me asking to borrow 2500 for her rental deposit and that's when all the alarm bells and the wisdom of the brotherhood starts screaming my ears. Anyway long story short I questioned her wisdom in renting an expensive place and if she should rethink that decision and reminded her that we still had just met and while I was sympathetic I couldn't loan her the money. Haven't heard from her since, so I'm hoping I successfully dodged a bullet, but hoping I never run into her or she finds my identity. Hopefully she'll find it to expensive here and move back home.

Most of the other potentials locally have turned out to be flaky, but there is one more college SB I'm trying to meet.

Plan A. Arrange for visiting SB's.

Ideally find 2-3 SB's to visit me periodically throughout the year.

This has turned into a much more challenging prospect as I think many girls fear that I'm a creep, flake, or looking for an escort. I've been casting a wide net, but not too much progress. Many girls respond interested but when we get to logistics they stop responding. The ones that are ready to go are asking for 1000 a day and that's too steep. Those are probably pros I imagine.

Do you guys get verified? Do you get a better response?

Any guys with more experience with flying girls to you have any pearls of wisdom?[/QUOTE]Couple of thoughts. First welcome to the bowl. It is an exciting, amazing, electrifying experience. It is also frustrating, nerve wracking and will cause you to question a lot of your assumptions about yourself and women in general.

I would ask you. Have you read the entire thread from beginning to end? If not do it. You will probably find many answers there.

Next I would say this takes time and tuning of your approach. If you are getting a lot of responses but then getting dropped on the meetup. That may mean your game to get them to meet is having problems. And need to tune that up. Try different approaches. Don't be tied to any one baby at first. Get the net out there, get a bunch of them, and then see which ones you want to keep and which ones you want to throw back.

Also ask yourself. What do I really want. Do I want a UTR or pro. Or do I want a really inexperienced newbie never done this before? Or how about age. Are you looking at the really young ones. Or older, MILF or single? What other things are a must have? How about things that you will not accept. Make a list of these. This will help you narrow your approach.

Knowing yourself and knowing what you want is a big part of this game. Stay conscious and aware also. Be specific with the POTs also on what you want. This will help you attract more and better quality. This will help you focus and be more successful.

Good luck. And be careful out there.

Revvo

So I hadn't heard from my 5'10 Latina stripper with the incredible body and double D's in about a week, when a few days ago I get a message from her asking who I was. Obvious phone problems, or at least the appearance of them, LOL. She was off that night, but I had already lined up an overnighter with my Chinese / Russian girl. She asked me about next Sunday (this one) and I made plans to go ahead and see her. Today she texts me and tells me that she's taking tonight off, is horny and wants to see me. As I was already entertaining the prospect of my late 30's blonde, I said hell yeah! I go to her place with a half pint of Hennessey and a pack of Newport 100's and the next thing I know I'm fucking the be-jesus out of her, or should I say vice versa. I'm looking forward to tonight! MW

[QUOTE=Gogreen; 1886189]Plan A. Arrange for visiting SB's.

Ideally find 2-3 SB's to visit me periodically throughout the year.

This has turned into a much more challenging prospect as I think many girls fear that I'm a creep, flake, or looking for an escort. I've been casting a wide net, but not too much progress. Many girls respond interested but when we get to logistics they stop responding. The ones that are ready to go are asking for 1000 a day and that's too steep. Those are probably pros I imagine.

Do you guys get verified? Do you get a better response?

Any guys with more experience with flying girls to you have any pearls of wisdom?[/QUOTE]Green,

I agree with Rev on your situation. It sounds to me like there is some kind of disconnect between your initial contact and the subsequent emails, and you need to concentrate your efforts there. Try reading back through your messages as if you were a skittish 20 yo baby looking for any reason to bolt, and see if there is anything there that might spook you. Are you coming on too strongly? Do you mention the FC too soon? Maybe don't bring up the whole flying-in thing until the third or fourth exchange, when they hopefully are feeling comfortable with you.

Although having said that, you might want to have one line in your profile text about the concept, something like "if we really have chemistry, I'm happy to fly you in for a weekend of fun." Then don't bring it up again until you have communicated for a bit, and be shy about it. Over-eagerness is the kiss of death in the Bowl, my friend. You must show interest and respect, but not appear desperate. Desperate = Creepy.

Also, the 1000 a day babies are escorts, pure and simple. Even if they're not, who cares? That's not what this whole thing is about. If you are paying top dollar, you may as well stay in the pro arena, and spend your free time doing something else.

As I think about it, I'm guessing you will need to accept a longer lead time, more upfront time, and more work on your part, but I'm predicting once you are able to secure a few solid babies who are committed to the concept, you will be golden. Don't be seduced by tales from brothers (like me I admit) who live in major metropolitan areas and have new babies being born every day. In reality, I can only see two or three of them at a time, so who really cares how many POTS I contact?

In my yoga class, all the teachers say that the only thing that matters is that we do our best with the day and the circumstances we have at hand. Some days are better, some worse, but tomorrow has unlimited potential. Anyone here will truthfully tell you that it takes a couple of months if not more to figure out your personal approach, the follow-up, the seduction and then the maintenance. But once you've got it, it will all get easier.

Keep at it, my brother. As Rev said, "It is an exciting, amazing, electrifying experience. It is also frustrating (and) nerve wracking" to which I would add that there is nothing else like it in the world. Be careful though, as many of us have gotten in too deep once the pussy starts rolling in and found that it takes over our lives. An occasional cleanse is often called for to realign the shakras, or something like that.

In any case, tally ho, and don't forget to write.

Scott

[QUOTE=John Draven; 1886084]Wanted to say hi to everyone and been reading the forum first. Still haven't decided in which site to start. I live out in Michigan, not sure if there that many potential SB compared to Richmond, Virginia area. Only thing I know are the strip clubs here are much better than other states. In terms of extra. Tired of that scene and it is not cheap. Has any one had luck in Michigan? Or are certain states or city provide greener pasture than others?

Looking forward for some guidance and will contribute value back to the forum.
[/QUOTE]
JD,

Firstly, if you read back through the entire thread (journal) you will realize we are a national, not local, fraternity, and so comments from the field are welcomed no matter what state you happen to come from. I'm sure there are fantastic babies waiting for you in Michigan, they're just waiting for you to find them. Being from Chicago myself, I sometimes get contacted by POTS from the sunset shore of your fair state, and they are hot. Good luck. If you are anywhere near Ann Arbor, you are set for life, trust me.

That said, your first order of business is to go back to the very first post on this thread, and read through to today, taking notes as you see fit. It will take you a while, but I believe that unlike any other thread on this forum there is a wealth of real, earned knowledge here and not just requests for information about provider X or rants and raves about missed appointments with skanky hookers. (My bias is showing, I know. Peace.)

In short, lace up your boots, get out into the field and do your work, then come back in a week or two with some specific issues and you will find us all more than willing to assist you.

Good luck, and in the immortal words of Brother Revvo, be careful out there.

Scott

Well I had two blowjobs this week. One from each of two of my top three regulars and I just am beside myself with the simple pure amazement of the quality of these experiences. Two very different experiences. One was awesome the other one was awesome but which one was more awesome?

First my little Venezuelan baby. We had been fucking and playing and snuggling for a couple of hours on a very awesome session at her apartment and I figured I was spent. But after a little rest I told her not asked her. I want you to suck my cock. A big smile crosses her face. And she jumps up from her curled up position all naked with this perfect tight little spinner body. And slides down between my legs and and hungrily takes my cock in her mouth and goes to town. I mean there was slurping, almost deep throating, I could feel the back of her throat with the head of my dick. She goes down the side. She plays with my balls, she puts my balls in her mouth and slurps on them like an ice cream cone. It was amazing! I was in heaven and when I came I came hard. It was fast and hard and intense. With tons of enthusiasm. When I came she makes a cute little high pitched moan like she just found a shiny piece of jewlery and was so happy with it. Then tells me how great I tasted. And then curls back up next to me and falls asleep. Of course I could not sleep because I was simply astounded. I could not believe a blowjob could be this great. I was wrong. There was another.

This leads me to my little Brazilian Princess. We meet and as usual there is no sugar just food or drinks and an occasional gift. This time her roommate was home so we needed to get a hotel. No problemo. We get to the room at a really nice resort hotel for $72. 00 and she tells me that she is on her period. But not to worry she has things completely in hand. Normally they warn me before the date. But she was literally looking forward to giving me that blowjob. Her words not mine. This was different. It was slow so incredibly slow. She was meticulous, she was eager yet she was deliberate. Work on the head for a while but when things get too heated she would slow down. She would run her perfectly manicured nails down my thighs sending me into Ecstasy. She would play with my balls like and dog plays with his own. Such expertise such skill. I was amazed just watching her. She brought me to the brink a half a dozen times I could not count after a while. When I came she could have made me do anything she wanted and I would have agreed with her. She sucked it down hungrily and then told me how much she loved sucking my cock. And I thanked her for her work. She just giggled and said this is not work when you enjoy it so much. I said well I will be happy to give you joy anytime you want.

Which would you pick? Venezuela or Brazil?

I honestly do not know how much better it could get!

Viva la latinas!

Revvo

As you may remember my third regular. My little american girl next door. Is still solidly in the picture and eager to meet any time we can work our schedules which is hard since she is a very busy girl with her work and school.

In addition she has some serious problems with money at the moment. But she has not asked me for a penny. In fact I am to the point where I do not even think I even need to give her sugar each time. But I do. I would never take advantage of this little princess. She is a giver and she deserves every penny and my affection and respect. I have never heard from her the word no.

I have asked her if there is anything I can do for her and she said no. She is so cool. Like my story below. I feel lucky.

I guess loaning a baby money can work out sometimes.

Revvo

Thanks FScott and Revvo for the advice.

Yes I think I will try to tone it down a bit. I'll be even more measured in my approach I'll have to pick and choose depending on their profiles. Some girls ask for more direct terms and others it's more vague and general. I'll try to vary my approach and see what works and with whom. It's definitely a fine line between the right and wrong impressions. I shall carry on and continue to report my progress. I just have to keep thinking patience. Patience.

I've also been trying to hit up some of the pairs of girls. Has anyone had success with this? I thought it would be great since they might feel more secure as a duo coming over.

GG.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1886723]Green,

I agree with Rev on your situation. It sounds to me like there is some kind of disconnect between your initial contact and the subsequent emails, and you need to concentrate your efforts there. Try reading back through your messages as if you were a skittish 20 yo baby looking for any reason to bolt, and see if there is anything there that might spook you. Are you coming on too strongly? Do you mention the FC too soon? Maybe don't bring up the whole flying-in thing until the third or fourth exchange, when they hopefully are feeling comfortable with you.

Although having said that, you might want to have one line in your profile text about the concept, something like "if we really have chemistry, I'm happy to fly you in for a weekend of fun." Then don't bring it up again until you have communicated for a bit, and be shy about it. Over-eagerness is the kiss of death in the Bowl, my friend. You must show interest and respect, but not appear desperate. Desperate = Creepy.

Also, the 1000 a day babies are escorts, pure and simple. Even if they're not, who cares? That's not what this whole thing is about. If you are paying top dollar, you may as well stay in the pro arena, and spend your free time doing something else.

As I think about it, I'm guessing you will need to accept a longer lead time, more upfront time, and more work on your part, but I'm predicting once you are able to secure a few solid babies who are committed to the concept, you will be golden. Don't be seduced by tales from brothers (like me I admit) who live in major metropolitan areas and have new babies being born every day. In reality, I can only see two or three of them at a time, so who really cares how many POTS I contact?

In my yoga class, all the teachers say that the only thing that matters is that we do our best with the day and the circumstances we have at hand. Some days are better, some worse, but tomorrow has unlimited potential. Anyone here will truthfully tell you that it takes a couple of months if not more to figure out your personal approach, the follow-up, the seduction and then the maintenance. But once you've got it, it will all get easier.

Keep at it, my brother. As Rev said,"It is an exciting, amazing, electrifying experience. It is also frustrating (and) nerve wracking" to which I would add that there is nothing else like it in the world. Be careful though, as many of us have gotten in too deep once the pussy starts rolling in and found that it takes over our lives. An occasional cleanse is often called for to realign the shakras, or something like that.

In any case, tally ho, and don't forget to write.

Scott[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1886855]Well I had two blowjobs this week. One from each of two of my top three regulars and I just am beside myself with the simple pure amazement of the quality of these experiences. Two very different experiences. One was awesome the other one was awesome but which one was more awesome?

First my little Venezuelan baby. We had been fucking and playing and snuggling for a couple of hours on a very awesome session at her apartment and I figured I was spent. But after a little rest I told her not asked her. I want you to suck my cock. A big smile crosses her face. And she jumps up from her curled up position all naked with this perfect tight little spinner body. And slides down between my legs and and hungrily takes my cock in her mouth and goes to town. I mean there was slurping, almost deep throating, I could feel the back of her throat with the head of my dick. She goes down the side. She plays with my balls, she puts my balls in her mouth and slurps on them like an ice cream cone. It was amazing! I was in heaven and when I came I came hard. It was fast and hard and intense. With tons of enthusiasm. When I came she makes a cute little high pitched moan like she just found a shiny piece of jewlery and was so happy with it. Then tells me how great I tasted. And then curls back up next to me and falls asleep. Of course I could not sleep because I was simply astounded. I could not believe a blowjob could be this great. I was wrong. There was another.

This leads me to my little Brazilian Princess. We meet and as usual there is no sugar just food or drinks and an occasional gift. This time her roommate was home so we needed to get a hotel. No problemo. We get to the room at a really nice resort hotel for $72. 00 and she tells me that she is on her period. But not to worry she has things completely in hand. Normally they warn me before the date. But she was literally looking forward to giving me that blowjob. Her words not mine. This was different. It was slow so incredibly slow. She was meticulous, she was eager yet she was deliberate. Work on the head for a while but when things get too heated she would slow down. She would run her perfectly manicured nails down my thighs sending me into Ecstasy. She would play with my balls like and dog plays with his own. Such expertise such skill. I was amazed just watching her. She brought me to the brink a half a dozen times I could not count after a while. When I came she could have made me do anything she wanted and I would have agreed with her. She sucked it down hungrily and then told me how much she loved sucking my cock. And I thanked her for her work. She just giggled and said this is not work when you enjoy it so much. I said well I will be happy to give you joy anytime you want.

Which would you pick? Venezuela or Brazil?

I honestly do not know how much better it could get!

Viva la latinas!

Revvo[/QUOTE]Isn't that one of the main benefits of the bowl? You don't have to choose! And in your case it sounds like they will both happily oblige whenever you want to boot. I find myself getting excited about the prospects and am thinking of the local college in a whole new light.

What type of resort hotel did you find for $72? It's one of things I'm curious about. Yeah sure, an extended stay dump can be had for cheap, but I don't want to portray that image. If you can "spoil" your baby for a nominal upcharge, it's win win. Where did you find your place? Was it last minute.

In Awe,

HL

[QUOTE=Gogreen; 1886872]Thanks FScott and Revvo for the advice.

Yes I think I will try to tone it down a bit. I'll be even more measured in my approach I'll have to pick and choose depending on their profiles. Some girls ask for more direct terms and others it's more vague and general. I'll try to vary my approach and see what works and with whom. It's definitely a fine line between the right and wrong impressions. I shall carry on and continue to report my progress. I just have to keep thinking patience. Patience.

I've also been trying to hit up some of the pairs of girls. Has anyone had success with this? I thought it would be great since they might feel more secure as a duo coming over.

GG.[/QUOTE]Start with $200 a visit till you get your confidence up

[QUOTE=Happy Lover; 1886883]Isn't that one of the main benefits of the bowl? You don't have to choose! And in your case it sounds like they will both happily oblige whenever you want to boot. I find myself getting excited about the prospects and am thinking of the local college in a whole new light.

What type of resort hotel did you find for $72? It's one of things I'm curious about. Yeah sure, an extended stay dump can be had for cheap, but I don't want to portray that image. If you can "spoil" your baby for a nominal upcharge, it's win win. Where did you find your place? Was it last minute.

In Awe,

HL[/QUOTE]Any normal guy with a little extra money that follows this thread and applies the hard won lessons can do this. It does take work and perseverance. It was like a second job for me for a while. Even if you don't have a lot of money you can find one and see her only occasionally. I have one that is 150 per visit no other costs. If I saw her once or twice a month that would only be 300 per month. Most guys with a normal job should be able to afford that.

As for the hotel. I am a little lucky there. I live in an area of Fla. With a lot of hotels of all types and many of them are resort style hotels. This particular one was a very nice 3 star. And then when the slow season comes around like now. There are a hell of a lot of hotel rooms vacant. So the hotels are trying to get occupants. The best deal I ever got. Was for a four star beautiful luxury hotel for $48. Place was almost empty. They did charge 16 per day for parking. But I would recommend using all of the travel sites and also Trivago. It searches all of the travel sites also. Hotels and the travel sites send me specials to my play email address almost daily. I have found that Hotwire and Priceline have the best deals.

Also there is a site called biddingfortravel. Com which tells you the best deals that people have successfully bid on in priceline. Very valuable. Then you know right where to bid at. And yes you are right. It definitely adds to the experience to be able to have a nice FC to fuck in. In fact I would say. The less the baby cares, the more likely she is a pro.

Keep at it. You will get it.

Revvo

[QUOTE=Gogreen; 1886872]Thanks FScott and Revvo for the advice.

Yes I think I will try to tone it down a bit. I'll be even more measured in my approach I'll have to pick and choose depending on their profiles. Some girls ask for more direct terms and others it's more vague and general. I'll try to vary my approach and see what works and with whom. It's definitely a fine line between the right and wrong impressions. I shall carry on and continue to report my progress. I just have to keep thinking patience. Patience.

I've also been trying to hit up some of the pairs of girls. Has anyone had success with this? I thought it would be great since they might feel more secure as a duo coming over.

GG.[/QUOTE]GG you are right on. Small adjustments can make a big difference. Be alert watch how they react to your interactions. And make small adjustments. Also pursue women that you do not necessarily want to catch. Use them as experience builders. And also watch how you act when you don't want it so bad. And act that way when you are with the ones you do want. Women really notice this shit. Most guys are clueless. Women are super sensitive to how you behave when you are around them.

I would avoid the double babies for now. Too much to deal with. Keep it simple for now. Master one thing at a time. Build your confidence like Hollywood said. Walk then run. Stumble a little go back to crawling again, then walk then run. Eventually you will be sprinting.

Revvo

[QUOTE=Gogreen; 1886189]Hello brothers. Figured I'd log my first progress report.

Plan B. Local bowl.

POT HYB turns into Nando1.

So it seemed initially the local scene wasn't going to generate any potentials, but this one started posting in my area on SA. We started to communicate and found she was planning to relocate to my city and was going to visit in a couple days to look for housing and visit some friends. So when she arrived I arranged to meet her at her hotel and when I got to her room she looked very much the 19 yr old innocent girl she had claimed to be. No makeup and looking she was still waking up, very cute. After about 30 minutes of chatting we sat together in the bed and she started snuggling up to me and in a few minutes more we started making out and that led to my first trip to the FC. Wow, hadn't had such young pussy in a while. She did seem to be less experienced but was pretty vocal about her enjoyment. After we cleaned up and chilled a bit longer I had to get back to work and left her her sugar. Seemed promising. I told her I probably wouldn't see her til she made her move and left it at that. We texted a bit and a couple days later she asked me to see her one more time before she left and it so happened my schedule opened up. So the morning of the second date she texts and asks if she can have a little extra sugar for her hotel and I think ok since I'm hoping I have my first SB.

She moves out here and starts texting for me to see her, but I'm too busy at work. A few days later she texts and asks to borrow 200, but I ignore since I had already told her I was busy. I finally got free a week later and texted her. She starts texting me asking to borrow 2500 for her rental deposit and that's when all the alarm bells and the wisdom of the brotherhood starts screaming my ears. Anyway long story short I questioned her wisdom in renting an expensive place and if she should rethink that decision and reminded her that we still had just met and while I was sympathetic I couldn't loan her the money. Haven't heard from her since, so I'm hoping I successfully dodged a bullet, but hoping I never run into her or she finds my identity. Hopefully she'll find it to expensive here and move back home.

Most of the other potentials locally have turned out to be flaky, but there is one more college SB I'm trying to meet.

Plan A. Arrange for visiting SB's.

Ideally find 2-3 SB's to visit me periodically throughout the year.

This has turned into a much more challenging prospect as I think many girls fear that I'm a creep, flake, or looking for an escort. I've been casting a wide net, but not too much progress. Many girls respond interested but when we get to logistics they stop responding. The ones that are ready to go are asking for 1000 a day and that's too steep. Those are probably pros I imagine.

Do you guys get verified? Do you get a better response?

Any guys with more experience with flying girls to you have any pearls of wisdom?[/QUOTE]1. Fly to them first.

2. Meet them on a biz trip.

3. Plan a long weekend on mini vacation and work that area. Sample the goods while there, then fly to the ones you like in. See not STL trip for reference.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1885436]Brothers,

Thank you all for all the great advice. I agree that nothing ventured, nothing gained, and I will be no worse off than I am now. Being in the Bowl has certainly taught me how to talk to HYBs in an easy, flirty but respectful way, and I think I just have to go with that.

Fred, I also am liking the idea of a private class. My one small fear is that I won't be able to do all the poses to the level she will require, and I'll look like the creaky old fossil that I am. Offsetting this is the vision of a sweaty Jenn standing close and touching me to "correct" my posture. It would also give me a chance to talk her up a bit more in private. After class there are always other people milling around, the bastards!

Nostra, I also like the idea of starting a conversation which then gets interrupted, necessitating its continuance at a coffee shop at a later date. I may combine the two and see if I can get a better idea as to whether she is interested or not.

As for pretending I'm not married, that won't fly as I wear a wedding band, and she certainly has seen it. This gives me a small amount of hope, actually. She knows I'm married, so would only be expecting a mistress-type arrangement if things ever got that far. I need to be careful not to move too quickly, as I really don't want to stop going to yoga if things go south and she gets freaked out. On the other hand, if she seems receptive to something outside of class, we both know she is "seeing" a married man, which only leads to one place, the FC, right? Clearly this will take some time to unfold. It is not like an m&g with a baby from SA, where a $3. 00 latte and some joking around will get POTF the next time you are together. On the third hand, how much can a yoga teacher make? Maybe she is looking for some assistance, and the "hints" I have been getting are in fact legit.

In any event, onward! I spent the better part of last night thinking about how awesome it would be to bang that sweet little body, and there's no turning back. Maybe we could do it in the studio, at 110 degrees! Did I mention she has a pierced navel? The mind reels!

Tigg and Bike, great posts. It just goes to show you never know where the pussy can come from.

Scott[/QUOTE]Brothers I hate to go against the grain here. But I have to say this is not what I would do. First remember she knows the only reason you are talking to her is because she has a pussy and you want to get into it. And guess what. She probably wants your dick. If you act in a masculine way. And do not try to hide this obvious fact and try to sneak into her pants.

You need to be clear about what you want and tell her what you want. Tell her you want to meet for coffee / smoothie or whatever is the latest trendy drink. Flirt, tease her, touch her, escalate the touching throughout the interaction lots of eye contact, and always lead the interaction. Don't wait move forward. Remember you are the man and she wants you to take the lead. Don't wait on signals. The signal will be she follows your lead or not. Nothing in between. No on the private classes or extended conversations. These are how you get into the friend zone. Matter of fact your goal should be to escalate the interaction to the next level smoothly and quickly.

Remember there is either interest or no interest. Also remember she knows you are married. She is not interested in having long conversations. Hell she may not bite when you try to escalate. That is cool my brother. If she is that hot. She probably gets hit on a dozen times a day. So it is no big deal.

Good luck.

Revvo

[QUOTE=Gogreen;1886872].I've also been trying to hit up some of the pairs of girls. Has anyone had success with this? I thought it would be great since they might feel more secure as a duo coming over.[/QUOTE]I agree with Revvo, keep it simple for now. I get bad vibes with most duos, too much note comparing and they will likely default to the least amount of fun because no one feels special.

[QUOTE=Revvo;1887004]Remember there is either interest or no interest.[/QUOTE]Yep, what is that saying? Every woman who decides to talk to you, whether she is single, attached, or married is only deciding on one thing,"Would I fuc* him or not?" When she reaches her answer, usually within 5 minutes, you will know.

[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;1887024]Yep, what is that saying? Every woman who decides to talk to you, whether she is single, attached, or married is only deciding on one thing,"Would I fuc* him or not?" When she reaches her answer, usually within 5 minutes, you will know.[/QUOTE]Hmm. I can't disagree with you more strongly.

[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;1887024]Yep, what is that saying? Every woman who decides to talk to you, whether she is single, attached, or married is only deciding on one thing,"Would I fuc* him or not?" When she reaches her answer, usually within 5 minutes, you will know.[/QUOTE]Pretty much the way it works. What I am saying is we escalate in a clear way until we get to rejection or acceptance. This is how we all evolved over the millennia. It goes to the core of what we are. I certainly do not have all of the answers but I can tell you being friends between a middle aged married man and a young beautiful woman is not very realistic path to anything but the friend zone.

Be bold, be playful, have fun. That is what she wants A man. She probably already has plenty of friends.

Revvo

[QUOTE=J Martinez;1887034]Hmm. I can't disagree with you more strongly.[/QUOTE]We're not saying she's playing to marry you, but she has made up her mind if she would ever fuck you and / or what it would cost to do so.

[QUOTE=Genxkva;1887073]We're not saying she's playing to marry you, but she has made up her mind if she would ever fuck you and / or what it would cost to do so.[/QUOTE]That is exactly what I meant. After you put the feelers out and intentions are clear AND she actually talks back, then she pretty much makes up her mind in short order. May explain why I do not have long drawn out rejections. I pick up the "no" or "yes" hint as quickly as I can. Very cost effective to move on from the impossible without spending too much time or money.

But, I have worked on a few girls for months, but that was just fine because everything they indicated was "yes," just not yet. Cool. I scored in the end in all those cases, and the chase was kinda fun too.

[QUOTE=Revvo; 1886986]GG you are right on. Small adjustments can make a big difference. Be alert watch how they react to your interactions. And make small adjustments. Also pursue women that you do not necessarily want to catch. Use them as experience builders. And also watch how you act when you don't want it so bad. And act that way when you are with the ones you do want. Women really notice this shit. Most guys are clueless. Women are super sensitive to how you behave when you are around them.

I would avoid the double babies for now. Too much to deal with. Keep it simple for now. Master one thing at a time. Build your confidence like Hollywood said. Walk then run. Stumble a little go back to crawling again, then walk then run. Eventually you will be sprinting.

Revvo[/QUOTE]I used to pursue girls I didn't want all the time just for the feedback. Excellent advice.

[QUOTE=F Scott; 1886744]JD,

Firstly, if you read back through the entire thread (journal) you will realize we are a national, not local, fraternity, and so comments from the field are welcomed no matter what state you happen to come from. I'm sure there are fantastic babies waiting for you in Michigan, they're just waiting for you to find them. Being from Chicago myself, I sometimes get contacted by POTS from the sunset shore of your fair state, and they are hot. Good luck. If you are anywhere near Ann Arbor, you are set for life, trust me.

That said, your first order of business is to go back to the very first post on this thread, and read through to today, taking notes as you see fit. It will take you a while, but I believe that unlike any other thread on this forum there is a wealth of real, earned knowledge here and not just requests for information about provider X or rants and raves about missed appointments with skanky hookers. (My bias is showing, I know. Peace.)

In short, lace up your boots, get out into the field and do your work, then come back in a week or two with some specific issues and you will find us all more than willing to assist you.

Good luck, and in the immortal words of Brother Revvo, be careful out there.

Scott[/QUOTE]I am near the Ann Arbor area. I been taking your advice and rtff. I am low key and contribute when I have value to add. Hope to share my knowledge and eager to explorer the green pasture.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1886135]I say the pasture is as green as you make it. You would think a bigger city would be better, more girls etc. But I talk to girls around the country and it seems that in the smaller areas the girls are literally starving for attention. So don't let that stop you. What city you in?[/QUOTE]Hope you are right. I assume that their are college sb to be found..

This may not fall into the SB world, but since most guys on here are super paranoid about being seen in public with their SB, I thought you guys might find it amusing.

Shortly after my divorce about 18 months ago the wife of one of my married couple friends invited me to a private dinner hosted by this young chef in town. He's worked at several restaurants in the city and now does private dinners and about once a month does a dinner for about 12-18 people he invites from his email list. He's really quite good and the meal is usually a 5-10 course affair paired with great wines and / or cocktails. The first one the wife took me to was Steak & Whiskey night. 11 courses featuring steak in various forms paired with some great scotch and whiskeys. Incredible!

So I got on the email list and decided to go to the next dinner he had. My friends couldn't go, so I decided to go solo. It's a great vibe at these dinners with a diverse group of people and great socializing. He usually holds them in his house, which has a huge kitchen with two long tables for seating. I get there and start to mingle with the other guests. Then I spot this tall, VERY attractive woman with an incredible body. Nice breasts, long legs and torso, not large. But good size butt. She seems familiar to me, but I just can't place how I know her. We introduce ourselves to each other and the mingling continues. I do manage to finagle a seat beside her when we all sit down for dinner. I start chatting with her and ask, 'What do you do for a living? ' She gives me a quizzical look and whispers to me, 'You know. ' I have never experienced such a flood of memories being unleashed on my psyche in my life! It all came back to me.

Like many on here, before I came to the SB world I was firmly entrenched in the escort world. I had seen this lady probably 5 or 6 times as an escort over a period of 2 or 3 years through two agencies and as and independent. She was actually one of my top 5 experiences. We really hit it off both sexually as well as chemistry-wise when we were together. In my defense, the last time I had seen her was 18 months previous. I had found my SB and she migrated way out my price range and entered the UTR / upper class SB side of things. Also, these dinners are very casual affairs and she was dressed down and had very little makeup on. When I saw her as an escort I was really into the business look. That was one of the things I liked about her and she played that to a T. Skirt, blouse, garters & stockings, great make-up, etc.

She said she recognized me immediately. I however, was at a loss until our conversation. I apologized profusely and we both laughed. I must have really become flushed over the whole thing, because a guy across from us asked what we were talking about since my face was so red. We laughed it off with him and continued on. Nothing more was said between us about it and we enjoyed the rest of the evening socializing as a group.

The next day we did exchange emails and she was very gracious over my faux pas. I was tempted to explore more with her, but knew she was waaay out of my budget range. We left it at that and said we'd probably see each other at one of Chef's future dinners. I went to one other dinner accompanied by the wife of another couple-friends and my escort friend wasn't at that one.

Because of my travel schedule I missed Chef's dinners throughout the rest of the year and this year. Until last Thursday. The original friends who introduced me to Chef's dinners were hosting one at their home. Not only did I decide to go, but also my other friends whose wife I took to the last one also came. It was a beautiful evening and a beautiful setting. My friend's house is a bungalow style on a dead end street in an older neighborhood of the city. They have a huge front porch and have taken the front yard and made a patio out of pavers which is where one long table for 12 was set-up. I arrive and get a cocktail and start talking with my friends. Then, my escort friend shows up. We make eye contact, but we're talking in different groups of folks. Again I end up sitting next to her. There I am, the wife of my closest couple-friends on one side, my escort friend on the other, the wife's husband across from us. Almost all the couples were over 40, the escort friend is early 30's, the hottest thing there and getting attention from all the guys. The wife-friend even made a comment to her husband during dinner that he wasn't paying attention to her conversation with him because he was eyeing the escort friend. Escort friend was being fairly flamboyant and wife friend kept making snide comments to me about her. Here's the best part. I'm taking all of this in. Both of my closest couple friends are there, the wife's comments, the guys eyeing and fawning over her. And the whole time I'm just thinking. 'Out of all of you, I'm the only one who has nailed this hot woman and she's fantastic! ' It was almost an out of body experience.

Good Hunting,

Travelin'

TravelinSD. That was a great story. I thoroughly enjoyed that.

I must good give you a thumb up for resisting the temptation.

If I were you, during that second dinner, I would have brought her to the back yard and nail her right then and there even if it cost me a whole week of income. LOL