Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Toomgis;4423087]First, thanks for all the tips on this site. I now know that last year I was paying way too much for PPMs. I think $250/300 for multi-hour dates are the accepted norm here. But I'm still trying to understand what a good monthly arrangement is. Is it in the neighborhood of $2000 with 6 or 8 visits per month? Thanks.[/QUOTE]It's whatever you can work out with the SB. I know some SB's have mentioned 500 ppm or 3000/ month as a "gold standard" so I can only assume they have been reading some BS blog about sugaring. I think most of the smart ones understand that perhaps there is an ideal out there but what they can realistically get may be quite different. Some obviously have a budget goal so they are just saying 500 ppm for 6 visits or 3000 monthly for how many visits you want or some variation on that math. Personally I avoid the ones that see sugaring as the primary income. I rather spend a bit more effort and find a SB that is looking to supplement their income and have a good time. They usually are more willing to negotiate.

[QUOTE=Toomgis;4423087]First, thanks for all the tips on this site. I now know that last year I was paying way too much for PPMs. I think $250/300 for multi-hour dates are the accepted norm here. But I'm still trying to understand what a good monthly arrangement is. Is it in the neighborhood of $2000 with 6 or 8 visits per month? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I've only had one monthly arrangement, and the rate per meeting was a bit higher than I typically do for a PPM. I really liked her, and she was coming from far away to see me so it was worth it for me. I gave her $1,4000 a month and we would see each other once a week for about 3-4 hours.

[QUOTE=Twister100;4423122]It's whatever you can work out with the SB. I know some SB's have mentioned 500 ppm or 3000/ month as a "gold standard" so I can only assume they have been reading some BS blog about sugaring. I think most of the smart ones understand that perhaps there is an ideal out there but what they can realistically get may be quite different. Some obviously have a budget goal so they are just saying 500 ppm for 6 visits or 3000 monthly for how many visits you want or some variation on that math. Personally I avoid the ones that see sugaring as the primary income. I rather spend a bit more effort and find a SB that is looking to supplement their income and have a good time. They usually are more willing to negotiate.[/QUOTE]If they're just looking for some extra income, those ladies are generally the ones that are the best. All they want is to have fun and a little extra money. I don't care how hot she is, I'm not willing to pay over 300 ppm anymore. No putang is worth that much in my opinion. But again, to each his own. Obviously some of these guys have more money than me and they can do whatever they want LOL.

[QUOTE=HBadger;4423266]If they're just looking for some extra income, those ladies are generally the ones that are the best. All they want is to have fun and a little extra money. I don't care how hot she is, I'm not willing to pay over 300 ppm anymore. No putang is worth that much in my opinion. But again, to each his own. Obviously some of these guys have more money than me and they can do whatever they want LOL.[/QUOTE]I do have to say that everyone that wanted $400-500 for a ppm and I've told them it's more than I'm willing to spend have come back later (sometimes a month or two) with a lower amount. That being said, I never took any of them up on it. I had already moved on. For flat allowances, I've paid $750-2000 month (payable weekly) + dinner, drinks and other gifts. The ladies that I paid the higher amounts to ($1750-2000) became really complacent really quick and the hot sex in the first week or two became very vanilla boring sex by about week 5-6.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;4423291]I do have to say that everyone that wanted $400-500 for a ppm and I've told them it's more than I'm willing to spend have come back later (sometimes a month or two) with a lower amount. That being said, I never took any of them up on it. I had already moved on. For flat allowances, I've paid $750-2000 month (payable weekly) + dinner, drinks and other gifts. The ladies that I paid the higher amounts to ($1750-2000) became really complacent really quick and the hot sex in the first week or two became very vanilla boring sex by about week 5-6.[/QUOTE]I think that's a really good point about the ladies getting complacent. If they see it as a job, there is a tendency to just mail it in after awhile whereas the ones that are looking to get their freak on are there for more than the $ so they tend to keep it fresh.

Jessica crush got serious injury which causes some motor skill issues and lost lots of weight. Not worth it.

[QUOTE=NewHere27;4408490][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/cf80166a-fcb9-465a-a297-d5f22c087be9[/URL]

Read her profile and found that she wants to video chat initially? Anyone end up meeting her?[/QUOTE]Can anyone tell me if anyone met her and how was the experience? It will be great if I could know. Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=DelToro;4212960]I saw her out of SA a couple of times, she has been review her before.

She had several profiles on SA that I can not find now.

Here are two I found out of SDM.

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/user_details?prof_id=65031656[/URL]

[URL]https://www.sugardaddymeet.com/user_details?user=SeattleSun84&back_to=1&url_keys=L3NlYXJjaF91c2VybmFtZQ==[/URL]

I saw her a couple of times and it was great.

Since then she canceled last minute three times and wants more money. She said our initial agreement of $250 is now way to low.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DelToro;4213029]Couple of Photos.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;4213396]Yeah I had seen her as well I paid 300 + morning after pill = She hosts in her Georgetown apartment 2 * BBFSCIP. Saw her twice in December and once in January. Last week she cancelled on me at the last minute. Similar experience.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Diver6390;4213606]I had tried to see her twice, not even to play, just a meet and greet. Flaked both times. At those meetings, she said she was hosting at her house way out in east Renton. First time, she text me as I was leaving for the meet and told me she was sick. Okay, shit happens. Second time, SHE confirmed morning of lunch meet. I got to lunch, multiple text messages and phone calls went to a black hole. Nothing, she just ghosted on me. I guess I was somewhat lucky and missed the GPS and drama.

By the way, I looked at her two SDM profiles, one said she is recently divorced, the other said recently widowed. Seem rather odd.[/QUOTE]So after flaking a bunch of guys on SA, she has moved on to TNA and turned PRO. With the amount she ghosts, she will get a few complaints pretty soon.

[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?434532-HollyJames[/URL]

I love a thick chick like this! I don't have SA, but would love her # and bang her! Help LOL.

[QUOTE=NewHere27;4424309]Can anyone tell me if anyone met her and how was the experience? It will be great if I could know. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HBadger;4355586]I remember seeing her profile a while back while I was still on SA. Her BJ's get so sloppy. She's such a fun time.[/QUOTE]I loved pounding her sloppy pussy.

[QUOTE=Millerlite1;4424854]I loved pounding her sloppy pussy.[/QUOTE]Christ she was great. It's that kind of drive I need LOL if the girl is not like that, she can honestly just gtfo. She's got to be somewhat attractive but to many people think if she's a 8/10 look and they pay like 500 ppm. Fuck that.

[QUOTE=Millerlite1;4424854]I loved pounding her sloppy pussy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HBadger;4424871]Christ she was great. It's that kind of drive I need LOL if the girl is not like that, she can honestly just gtfo. She's got to be somewhat attractive but to many people think if she's a 8/10 look and they pay like 500 ppm. Fuck that.[/QUOTE]She is incredible. Love her attitude, skills and the coconut oil that she lathers you with. She is a nymphomaniac that loves what she does and allowed me full access to whatever was on my mind. I miss her terribly.

[QUOTE=SeaTownGuy;4423935]Jessica crush got serious injury which causes some motor skill issues and lost lots of weight. Not worth it.[/QUOTE]Oh crap is this recent?

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;4425019]She is incredible. Love her attitude, skills and the coconut oil that she lathers you with. She is a nymphomaniac that loves what she does and allowed me full access to whatever was on my mind. I miss her terribly.[/QUOTE]One thing I never tried with her was anal. I mean, there was no need, that pussy was wet every fucken time, and the oral skills where out of this world.

[QUOTE=SeaTownGuy;4423935]Jessica crush got serious injury which causes some motor skill issues and lost lots of weight. Not worth it.[/QUOTE]Hey Sea Town Guy when did you see her? What type of injury share some more. I've seen her several time but haven't hooked up since end of March!