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Exactly. Both warm and friendly in conversation, and genuinely enjoying the sex too. I've had one without the other, but a girl who brings both is worth some extra (and multiple visits) from me.
[QUOTE=ShoreDog;4553821]Absolutely, attitude is so important to me. They don't need to kiss my ass for the money, but at least be a little nice. Right?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4554210]There periodically are technical changes that affect our practices. Browsers that can work on SA were discussed a while ago, but there hasn't been a need recently. The safest one, Tor, doesn't work well on SA in my experience. And not at all at times. I have recently been using EPIC, as it has a built-in free VPN. However, now when I try to log on, I get this message: "Please enable JS and disable any ad blocker". I have gone back to Safari in stealth mode, but would appreciate any other ideas. I am just trying to stay safe as possible, minimize the possibility that one website or vendor will be able to link me to something IRL.[/QUOTE]Get a separate VPN App for your mobile. Cloudflare Warp works pretty well and it has a free tier. Then use Firefox Focus. You'll have to sign in each time you open it, but should be what you're looking for. Links below. Also, if you use protonmail app you can select Firefox Focus as the default browser. I'm on an iPhone.
1. 1. 1. 1 — The free app that makes your Internet faster. (before anyone says it's not a VPN, read further down the linked page. It has different modes).
[URL]https://one.one.one.one/[/URL]
Firefox Focus Help.
[URL]https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/products/focus-firefox[/URL]
[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4553622]When you get into the $400+ amount you typically get the high class escort look which I personally find unappealing and it also comes with a poor attitude because they've caught the gps bug.[/QUOTE]This is very true. Expectations like that are actually major red flags of extensive experience and higher mileage. For the true low mileage girls, who do genuinely enjoy their time with you or are at least comfortable with you (big factor for my target type which is also inexperienced 19-22 college undergrads), they don't need or expect you to go to that level. And the few I met who did, even after I talked them down from there to a level I liked (300 my max usually) still gave me an unreal and fun experience. Once they make up their mind to do it, with these types you're going to get their all. They're not pros sitting there thinking I'm making 100 less than I thought I'm not going to please him, and go through the motions. The few times I paid up, I've regretted it the majority of the time as they weren't much fun. There just isn't any correlation there at all in my years of experience.
Now, one caveat, when I do this I'm into pleasers, not princess types. That personality type is a turn off for me in general but I can see how they get off on the idea of being lavished with ultra-generous allowances, expensive gifts, etc. But with the typical girl I do this with, a thoughtful gesture like $15 bottle of her favorite wine sends her over the moon.
[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;4554168]The easiest way to visualize the environment is this: the fewer the good job prospects in the town for the local girls and the larger the college population is relative to the town size re the imported college babes, then the cheaper the hot SBs.
Richmond, NOVA and Wash DC kind of become one big market and gravitates toward the higher end of ppm that NOVA and DC command. You all have a lot of college babes, but also a lot of SDs willing to pay higher ppm - not so in medium-sized and smaller towns - fewer higher ppm SDs to go around. My .02.[/QUOTE]Richmond's PPM is far lower than anything in the DC Metro. I come down to Richmond and my ppm is floating between 100-175. DC pretty much starts around $$ on average and then hotel is always additional as most of them don't host. Va Beach area is about on par with Richmond for the most part, but otherwise you're theory is pretty much on point.
[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;4554642]Richmond's PPM is far lower than anything in the DC Metro. I come down to Richmond and my ppm is floating between 100-175. DC pretty much starts around $$ on average and then hotel is always additional as most of them don't host. Va Beach area is about on par with Richmond for the most part, but otherwise you're theory is pretty much on point.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. So, the 80 miles between Richmond and the DC area does make a difference. Therefore, my location theory holds; ppm rates depend on the % of higher ppm SDs available to the set number of hot SBs. Easily explained by the different economic status between the two areas.
The key here is the set number of SBs. Not all areas have an overflow of SBs, so there will be some medium and smaller areas where a lower number of SBs can command $$5 and $$$ and there are enough SDs to support them. For context, I am only talking about hot SBs (8, 9 and 10's). All markets have lower BP and CL-type SBs, but I am not talking about those.
As for the other posts, I agree that after 400 you run into high class escorts. However, that is age dependent with the exception being the 18 - 20 yr-old college hottie with GPS.
It happened, gents. I got one that cashed and dashed. I ignored the warning signs and instincts. I got blocked so I can't get the url, but her name on SA is Skycloud850.
I have a feeling she has other profiles. The pic on her profile is accurate and I have a couple more that she sent.
Be careful out there.
Guys, looking for some guidance. Been in the hobby for a few years. Spend a lot of time (and $$ with agencies like TG. Looking to get into the SD / SB relationship. Just created a profile on SA. Just a few high-level questions to get me started.
Is there a big LE presences on SA looking for the SD?
For a RVA lady, 19-24 years old and 7-9 on hotness scale, what's a good PPM? I don't want to lowball but also don't want to over pay and set the bar too high for the market.
Any other pointers for to me?
Much appreciated.
[QUOTE=WaterBoi;4554946]It happened, gents. I got one that cashed and dashed. I ignored the warning signs and instincts. I got blocked so I can't get the url, but her name on SA is Skycloud850.
I have a feeling she has other profiles. The pic on her profile is accurate and I have a couple more that she sent.
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]Can you give her details like age, body type, race, location ect so I can search her and post a link to her profile?
Also what's the long version of the story? Did she demand cash upfront and then leave with it?
[QUOTE=WaterBoi;4554946]It happened, gents. I got one that cashed and dashed. I ignored the warning signs and instincts. I got blocked so I can't get the url, but her name on SA is Skycloud850.
I have a feeling she has other profiles. The pic on her profile is accurate and I have a couple more that she sent.
Be careful out there.[/QUOTE]
Post those other pics?
https://www.seeking.com/member/53a37bb8-c4ab-4f45-9c8d-119a4a63a6e8
She's Caucasian, either dark brown or black hair, short and petite. She described herself as 5'0", 98 lbs and she may have been even smaller. Pictures below are of her.
Anyway, we moved to text from SA and I asked about 100 questions. She answered all of them. I wasn't 100%, but the little head said to go ahead and risk it.
She said she wants to meet and sent me to an address in Carline county off route 1. I got there but no car in the driveway, so I drove off and she said she was down the street at the gas station. I drove back to the house and she was already there. A big silver dodge truck with lights on the roof and tinted windows was parked in the driveway, she was standing outside.
When I pulled up, she got right into my car and asked if I was ready to have some fun. I said yeah, let's go inside. She asked if I had her allowance and I said yes, but only will give it when we're inside. She said that's suspicious and I'll need to give it to her now before we go inside. I gave it up. She got out and said she needed to get her stuff from the truck and as soon as she walked to the Dodge, it started up, she jumped in and they sped off.
[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4555169]Can you give her details like age, body type, race, location ect so I can search her and post a link to her profile?
Also what's the long version of the story? Did she demand cash upfront and then leave with it?[/QUOTE]
Anyone have any experiences with this one? Seems legit, and definitely a cutie.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4002fd02-f82f-40e5-8a1a-2e2782994741[/URL]
It amazes me how the landscape of SA has changed in just the past month or two. Its went from relatively easy to find a genuine 18-22 thin low mileage sb that was open to intimacy to absolutely nothing now. 100% of the girls I talk to now are "too busy with school to meet in person" but "want someone to spoil me in exchange for my companionship via text or phone calls". Even the pic / vid sellers are few and far between. To me it's made the site not even worth the $90/ month. My membership expires in a few days and I'm going to let it go. If I wanted a girl to give my money to and get nothing physical in return I'd just get married.
With that being said, if you're target is 25 and up there are still some options on the site. For me a big part of the thrill is knowing the girl I'm with is a genuine college student that really needs / wants the money and not someone that's just made bad choices in life and is desperate for money to keep the electricity on.
The sad part is I don't think this trend is going to blow over anytime soon. The TikToc app that was discussed in previous posts is full of this nonsense findom and feet pic sellers. There are tons female users (16 ish- early 20's) posting their Venmo and Cashapp transactions showing numerous incoming deposits from this crap. Hundreds of dollars a day from guys paying $20-50 for feet pictures. With guys like that out there we don't have a chance on Seeking.
[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4556250]It amazes me how the landscape of SA has changed in just the past month or two. Its went from relatively easy to find a genuine 18-22 thin low mileage sb that was open to intimacy to absolutely nothing now. 100% of the girls I talk to now are "too busy with school to meet in person" but "want someone to spoil me in exchange for my companionship via text or phone calls". Even the pic / vid sellers are few and far between. To me it's made the site not even worth the $90/ month. My membership expires in a few days and I'm going to let it go. If I wanted a girl to give my money to and get nothing physical in return I'd just get married.
With that being said, if you're target is 25 and up there are still some options on the site. For me a big part of the thrill is knowing the girl I'm with is a genuine college student that really needs / wants the money and not someone that's just made bad choices in life and is desperate for money to keep the electricity on.
The sad part is I don't think this trend is going to blow over anytime soon. The TikToc app that was discussed in previous posts is full of this nonsense findom and feet pic sellers. There are tons female users (16 ish- early 20's) posting their Venmo and Cashapp transactions showing numerous incoming deposits from this crap. Hundreds of dollars a day from guys paying $20-50 for feet pictures. With guys like that out there we don't have a chance on Seeking.[/QUOTE]I've seen it too. I got back on the site after a couple month break. There are so many that want to sell pics and videos. And a ton that want ridiculous up front payments for meet and greets. You know how that goes. I'm hoping with winter break coming up some girls come back to Richmond looking for spending cash. I had a nice run over my almost two years on the site the first time. This time around seems to be a lot more work to get them to talk and then they want money up front. Is anyone also seeing an increase in strippers on SA that want you to meet them at the club? I've had three in the last month.
[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4556250]The sad part is I don't think this trend is going to blow over anytime soon. The TikToc app that was discussed in previous posts is full of this nonsense findom and feet pic sellers. There are tons female users (16 ish- early 20's) posting their Venmo and Cashapp transactions showing numerous incoming deposits from this crap. Hundreds of dollars a day from guys paying $20-50 for feet pictures. With guys like that out there we don't have a chance on Seeking.[/QUOTE]Initially I thought the sheer volume of these idiots offering this would soak up the relatively few losers and morons interested in doing it and discourage them. But now I wonder if it's just drawn more of the losers to the site and the supply has been met with more demand.
[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4556513]Initially I thought the sheer volume of these idiots offering this would soak up the relatively few losers and morons interested in doing it and discourage them. But now I wonder if it's just drawn more of the losers to the site and the supply has been met with more demand.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was hoping the same thing but it doesn't look like it's going to end any time soon. I've given up on the 18-22 searches and have been talking to some 23-25 yo the past day or two. I have a couple that I'm planning to meet in the next few days. One is gorgeous but I think might have a few screws loose based on her snap stories she's posting. I also have a 19 yo in Charlottesville I'm supposed to see this week that wanted an abnormally low ppm to be as hot as she is but aside from that she seems completely legitimate. I'll post reviews after I fuck them.