Mashiro and CIP negotiation
Mashiro. Sorry to hear JAVluvr Maybe the true big cock she had an issue. Us mortals with regular cock or pretending we have big cocks are A-ok.
DoagM.
1. Be ready to slap on the condom, be ready to take it slow and disrupt her game to get you to commit.
2. Ask her to suck more, or eat her pussy.
3. [B]Calm your Cock[/B].
4. Once she actually thinks about it, good chance she will realize $100 CIP is better than nothing. The other 50% is controlled / brainwashed by the girls or some dude to never lower it.
5. Be ready to commit to the condom and reset your brain to finish it. Don't negotiate to the point where you are both annoyed because then it's a boner killer.
I know we joke about charming the girl, that's possible too if you can just have some real banter, sometimes this method works.
As always, this can be very different girls to girl. Also, as the girl gets more popular, the usual is that they get more firm.
But we've seen new girls who starts at $200/$300 and we give them the "wtf" look when they mention it. The only thing close to $200 is Japanese condom code names backwards as 002 or 001 for the 2mm or 1mm condoms we're ready to use on them.
We've also seen girls who starts high but once they realize they are not busy they would lower.
My experience is usually the earlier you see them the better. Before they wise up or pussy starts to hurts that they starts to ask for more to recoup future less earnings when pussy hurts. Generally speaking. There are girls that also ask for less and less the more time you see them but can be an expensive investment... if she doesn't do it the 2nd time, cut your fucking losses cuz you already sunk another $360 pre-bb cost already.
more and more girls have $300 in their head and more and more are $200/$200 regardless of inside or outside. I think money is slowing down so jacking up per customer cost is their game even if the girl isn't as hot as before. Teso is getting more business from us for sure than 2 years ago.
Ask Drunkenkid, he seems to have the "condom is fine but you can get $100 but it's up to you" method down.
[QUOTE=JavLuvr;6943669]I also have a Japan trip coming up. Been doing lots of research. You should check out Tokyo Adult Guide if you haven't already.
It's illegal to sell vaginal sex there. But everything else, and I do mean everything (selling anal or a blow job for example), is legal. While they can't openly advertise vaginal sex, it of course happens behind closed doors. At Soaplands FS is standard. For delivery health (basically outcall service) FS costs extra.
As another poster said, the main problem with mongering in Japan is that they are not foreigner friendly. It is my expectation that NYC will be way better for banging Japanese hookers than Japan is, strange as that may seem. Different stores have varying degrees of tolerance for foreigners. In general, you will always pay more if gaijin. Speaking Japanese helps but some places will still deny and price gouge you. I have seen chatter about stores that had gaijin tax as high as 20-30 k yen or about $150, which is paid on top of the normal price to fuck the girl. I've also heard it's extremely hard to BBFS at stores in Japan as a foreigner. Obviously, no barriers or BS like this exist with J-girls in NYC.
Regarding the girls you mentioned:
1010 Hikari: No idea. I didn't bang her.
RS Izumi: Very fun spinner. Youthful and tiny. Slim waist and nice little small lip pussy. She has real good service / attitude and took my dick balls deep with no issues. Super fun time. Wish I fucked her sooner, but I wasted my time and money on Yuffie at DDY (who probably belongs at the CDP and is worth half her DDY rate) at the end of last week and wasn't able to get back into the city for Izumi until a few days ago.
SE Mashiro: Very similar to Izumi, another youthful spinner. Unfortunately this one was a dud for me since she couldn't take my dick. Weird how one tiny girl (Izumi) had no issues and yet another one quit before we ever really got started. Attitude and service were good but I never got more than half way inside her and had to finish with 69, so it was an L. She must be good for most other mongers though because I've seen lots of positive feedback and apparently she extended her tour in NYC.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DoagMeister;6943095]As an aside, has anyone here gone to Tokyo and can comment on the service there vs NYC? Planning on going in the fall, but I heard they technically can't offer FS and you have to go kn multiple dates to do so? If that's the case I'd rather fuck J-girls in NYC.
Hikari 10 Ten. Big flirt as soon as you enter the room and great service as mentioned in other reviews. Only had time for 30 minutes but got MSOG since I first came in like 10 minutes from that tight pussy. A bit on the older side facial-wise, maybe late 20's, still has a sexy spinner body though.
Izumi RS8 - probably my ATF. So small, young and cute, awesome service. Really makes you feel like she's in love with you.
Mashiro NYCSE. Love her smooth white skin and small tits. Can see why she's popular. Tons of LFK but no DFK for me. She caught me with the $200 CIP upcharge fuck LOL. Asked me at the wrong time and I didn't want to make things awkward. Ya'll need to share your haggling tips.[/QUOTE]