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[QUOTE=Xhusky;5432467]In 2020, FED printed $ and performed QE within 6 months for the same amounts that they did in 2008 Financial Crisis. Fed didn't even have to printout physical copy of USD, but just go to their buyer's bid in mortgage and bond markets and place an order as it has unlimited buying power per applicable pertaining laws that allows them to use USD. As a response, you see stock price surges when economy is tanking. This also means that value of USD is depreciated, against which bitcoin / dodge coin is surging (not necessarily gold).
In other words, Capital income potential is greater than labor income. While the hour rate in most states is still early 10 $, you can make big money in market.
Those in high premium groups can afford the rate (personally, I made big early this year during GME saga and Bitcoin surge), and 500 $ is not too much money. I have college friends who used to work in big tech company (like AMZN, SQ, and AAPL) as software engineers, and they quit the jobs after making couple of millions in 2020 (they are around 30's). Of course, some lost a little money early this year, but it's drop in a bucket. Financial Freedom is, like anything else, important for, especially Americans, who always value in the freedom.
Funny that when GME was tanking early March, I see some providers (online) crying for help that their 2 weeks of hard-earned money is depreciated when GME stock price plunges from 300 to 50 $ that they think they can get out of the cycle. So it was cheap to hang out with them for temporary discount. For a record, I read that in early 2010's, providers were paid as bitcoin (like 30 bitcoin) per session when the price was 10-20 $. Now BTC is around 35000 $, let alone, early this year, it went up to 60000 $. I read one post from the ex-provider that that payment changed her life that she is now managing the real estate property and just enjoying life (At least financially).[/QUOTE]I see your new here. Welcome! I apologize in advance and hope no offense is taken by the following. This isn't a stock chat room and nor does anything really relate to 95% or plus of the girls in this hobby. Sure, people are feeling inflation on day to day living expenses but this isn't why 95% plus are requesting more $$ and providing less of a service. There are many factors. I understand your thinking as the monger is being more conservative with his luxury expenses cutting back allowances. In the majority of cases many Sugar Daddy Arrangements don't last that long. Some may last a few months less will last 6 months and even less a year. I have girls I see that I've seen multiple years but there is no allowance. I responded to a post regarding this topic a couple minutes ago.
Please see that post for my response. Glad to see new faces participating.
Regards.
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[QUOTE=SirChuck;5433319]Part of the problem with these increased prices for less service is a multi faceted problem IMO.
#1. Many of the Millennial and Younger generations have been spoiled with instant gratification. Partially, because of the internet, Social Media, the stories they read about on social media. Friends talking about what they heard someone else gets. Prices, Services provided. Try looking up Female Escorts on Reddit. They have many chat rooms for the providers and only providers and a couple for hobbyist and provider where they can participate. 90 percent of these girls chatting believe in the he should just be happy I'm servicing him. Many of the girls attack any other girl or even the thought of another girl offering certain services at certain prices. Most on their despise anyone asking for bareback of any kind. I've even heard a couple girls attack mongers and providers that even mention bareback anything. I LMAO, when I heard one girl say he should be happy if I provide him with a bareback HJ! The knew norm is being branded everywhere we look not just the hobby. Shame people that assert determination that could or would raise the bar of expected performance. Many expect higher pay with way lesser quality of service. This isn't just in the hobby but almost everywhere in the working world.
#2. All these government hand outs many girls have been receiving doesn't teach these girls the value of a dollar. Our government literally paid unemployed more than they made when they are employed. Don't get me wrong many people did deserve financial assistance with the lock downs. However, many people that weren't working worked around the system so they could fully benefit. With some making more than they ever did to sit at home and do nothing. When a person pushes themselves to work harder for something they end up appreciating it much more. When they just get handed it they lose that sense of hunger and drive.[/QUOTE]I think you hit the nail on the head. They have some cushion right now with the free handouts but once they are faced with reality again it will go back to normal. They may try to raise prices but if they do that it will be so ridiculous nobody will pay them. I'm thinking you are right. Its just a matter of time. Part of it is the social media high as well but that has been there for over 10 years or more and its never been this bad. I'm thinking it has to do with Covid. A lot of them probably saw they can scam guys online with sites like Only Fans and have to do minimal work. I'm serious hoping it goes back to normal because this is bleak and very frustrating. To have to pay 200 minimum for an average girl is beyond insane.
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[QUOTE=SirChuck;5433343]I see your new here. Welcome! I apologize in advance and hope no offense is taken by the following. This isn't a stock chat room and nor does anything really relate to 95% or plus of the girls in this hobby. Sure, people are feeling inflation on day to day living expenses but this isn't why 95% plus are requesting more $$ and providing less of a service. There are many factors. I understand your thinking as the monger is being more conservative with his luxury expenses cutting back allowances. In the majority of cases many Sugar Daddy Arrangements don't last that long. Some may last a few months less will last 6 months and even less a year. I have girls I see that I've seen multiple years but there is no allowance. I responded to a post regarding this topic a couple minutes ago.
Please see that post for my response. Glad to see new faces participating.
Regards.[/QUOTE]Good post. Then what is your take on the inflated prices? Do you think it has to do with the free government hand outs as well? I guess I didn't realize that these girls get together in a sort of hive-mind group and discuss rates. If that's the case they can virtually set them as high as they want if they all do it collectively. The only way they would come down is if guys stopped paying what they are asking. But I don't see that happening any time soon.
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Mind your P.S. And Qs
[QUOTE=QueNine;5433298]Read this if you want a good laugh.
[URL]https://superasian.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/missouri/stlouis/64002196[/URL]#.[/QUOTE]Boy, she sure knows how to sell herself. I can't wait to give her a call. Not text. Call!
Boundaries? I don't need no stinking boundaries.
Ahmed 😁.
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Lol
[QUOTE=RicharddAngle;5433555]Boy, she sure knows how to sell herself. I can't wait to give her a call. Not text. Call!
Boundaries? I don't need no stinking boundaries.
Ahmed 😁.[/QUOTE]I'm about to send a dick pic to her I'm sure shell love that.
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Lindsey
[QUOTE=Mikey6969;5432983]Does anyone have any experience with this Lindsay lately?
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/64185995/6362339274[/URL]
Her reviews on EB are all really good, and she looks awesome.[/QUOTE]Like many others, I tried to see her and was unsuccessful. This was just a few weeks ago, I set up an appointment the day before for her most expensive session (so that I wouldn't get bumped by someone else), and the morning of as I was on my way she texted me with some lame ass excuse and that she needed to reschedule. If you do a search here you will find she is notorious for ghosting people. I gave it a shot, maybe you'll have better luck.
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Fun
[QUOTE=LuvMchn;5431517]Haven't seen any good reports in the last year. Has anyone had a good time with her?[/QUOTE]I did. It was fun. She was doing something where you had to follow her only fans to be able to book. She seemed to have few available appointments that worked for me.
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Union
[QUOTE=StlBang;5422715]Has anyone had any experience with the lady advertising on rubratings from Union, Missouri. She looks good, but asking $200 for rub and $250 for nude. Kind of pricey, but looks intriguing.[/QUOTE]I was curious as to the same ad. I did notice that when it was first posted there were zero reviews and now the reviews are disabled. Begins to make me question it. Interested to know if anyone else has any Intel.
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Apartment Asians?
Tried to set up an appointment with the "new" number the Apt. Asians were using, 314-XXX-7568. No one answered, but about 30 minutes later I rec'd a text saying "hi. Sorry I missed your call. " Does anyone know if that 314-XXX-7568 number is still good, or did they change it again? Thanks.
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Toni
I visited Toni the other day. A little delayed on initial response, but it worked out. Drove to st chuck accurate directions to her place, typical call when you park and be discreet.
Got to her door and when she opened it. OMG this woman is very gorgeous in my opinion. I was excited to say the least. Got to the table chatted a bit, and we both got completely comfortable. BTW she has great big tits, pics are accurate. She has a very professional setup, clean, and smelled nice. Got to the rub and it was amazing very professional feeling perfect pressure. Got to the flip and she continued the professional massage with some erotic teasing here and there. She eventually focused all her efforts on my good parts with her hands and tits, allowing some light touching to her. The finish was amazing and I left relaxed and happy. She's cool af, someone you can sit and have a real conversation with. I asked about extras and she declined. Ask her for price I was just south of 200. I'll go back due to decline in quality with other girls.
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[QUOTE=Apache77;5429624]I recently saw Anna from Anastasia's Angels ([URL]https://www.anangelstouchstl.com/about-4[/URL]) and had a great time. Being on old timer I'm not always able to finish but there was no problem with this sweet, young thing. As an FYI, I think she has a real job so during the week she basically sees people after 5:30 but it seems her weekends are open as I saw her on a Saturday morning.[/QUOTE]She's been on SA for years. Just moved to working for the massage group because hustling on SA is way harder, I imagine. With the angels stuff there is a built in client base and she was already basically an escort in the way she worked SA. Met up with her a few times years ago but, IIRC, her rates were ridiculous for the level of service. Even off SA she would come right and say "500 per hour" when you texted with her. If she is in line with the normal Angel's rate (300 for FS) that the other girls do, then I would see her again but if she wants 500 for FS, no thanks. Not as long as Elle and Elsa are charging 300 for FS.
Here is her SA profile [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b0e725e7-f820-44d0-a8fe-c77d0aff3f35[/URL].
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Anna
[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;5435314]She's been on SA for years. Just moved to working for the massage group because hustling on SA is way harder, I imagine. With the angels stuff there is a built in client base and she was already basically an escort in the way she worked SA. Met up with her a few times years ago but, IIRC, her rates were ridiculous for the level of service. Even off SA she would come right and say "500 per hour" when you texted with her. If she is in line with the normal Angel's rate (300 for FS) that the other girls do, then I would see her again but if she wants 500 for FS, no thanks. Not as long as Elle and Elsa are charging 300 for FS.
Here is her SA profile [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b0e725e7-f820-44d0-a8fe-c77d0aff3f35[/URL].[/QUOTE]You are correct. She is on SA. I was chatting with her and I can confirm that on SA she wanted 500 plus you have to host or you get the hotel room or she gets the hotel room and you reimburse her. Hustling on SA is very challenging to say the least. If you have a SO, it makes it difficult. The gals you meet never can host it seems and / or they want you to get the hotel room which I / we can't (due to using a cc). This is the case with most of the girls in their 20's. The older they are, the price comes down to around $300 and they usually can host. There are a lot of scammers to wade through as well. Plus the women on SA always want a photo beforehand. When you go on the body rub sites, no photo required! And they host! I'm back to the usual Angels, ProLux and independents.
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Union scam
[QUOTE=Zigzak;5434732]I was curious as to the same ad. I did notice that when it was first posted there were zero reviews and now the reviews are disabled. Begins to make me question it. Interested to know if anyone else has any Intel.[/QUOTE]It's a scam. This person has also posted on SA with photos of the exact same girl using multiple user names. I chatted with her (briefly and all they wanted was my phone number.
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Summer
Since this is the Good Old Summertime I think you should pay Summer a visit and have a Good Old Time (which I hope isn't too cheesy or even idiotic? I have seen her a number of times and I always enjoy my visit ([URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/214284[/URL]).
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[QUOTE=Apache77;5435870]Since this is the Good Old Summertime I think you should pay Summer a visit and have a Good Old Time (which I hope isn't too cheesy or even idiotic? I have seen her a number of times and I always enjoy my visit ([URL]https://stlouis.rubratings.com/214284[/URL]).[/QUOTE]Hey, Apache. Do you know if Summer is ok with cim, cof, or cot?