"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Hobby. Which girl are you talking about? You've mentioned a bunch lately and I can't seem to figure out which one.

Starkey.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4546957]She agreed yesterday to meet me in the FC (nice hotel) and she showed up on time. She looked better than her pictures on seeking and was a really nice girl. We talked for a bit and had great conversation. We discussed a longer term arrangement and things we'd like to do outside of the FC. We then discussed both of our sexual preferences. Mine are pretty simple. She said she enjoyed a little role playing (her as a really young girl and me as an older mature man) and she also enjoys rape play with a safe word and that the word no means yes to her. I was a bit confused as she is 19 and I'm in my late 30's but I think she meant she likes to role play as a younger (underage) girl. Regardless I told her we'd explore those things at later meetings and I'd be fine with just basic sex today. She seemed fine and asked if I was ready to have sex with her. We started with some great kissing and she gave me a great BBBJ. She seemed really into the whole thing. Very eager to please me. I rolled her over on her back and put on protection and went in mish, flipped her over for a bit and then back to mish. The whole time she was enthusiastic and seemingly enjoying everything. We go on for a few more minutes and I see a tear in her eye. I stop and ask what's wrong. She tried to play it off as nothing was wrong but there was a hesitation and she just says I don't think I want to do this anymore. I want to leave. I apologize and tell her I don't want her to be uncomfortable. She gets up calmly and starts putting her clothes back on asking me if I'm ok and apologizing to me over and over again. I grab our agreed ppm $$ from the nightstand and place it on the bed and she says for me to keep my money. I tell her no I insist that she takes the money. She resists a few more times while apologizing but eventually takes it and tanks me, apologizes again and leaves.

I really don't know what went wrong. I asked her while she was dressing if it was me and she assured me that it wasn't me at all while apologizing. She told me prior to us meeting that this would be her second arrangement but I am doubtful and I believe this was her first and she just couldn't go through with it. I'm pretty disappointed because she was gorgeous with a perfect body.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Starkey2008;4549202]Hobby. Which girl are you talking about? You've mentioned a bunch lately and I can't seem to figure out which one.

Starkey.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f3a1201-232a-46d2-9dc6-a1bc5c2d8193[/URL]

If any of you guys can pull it off I highly recommend her if she’s stable. Shes 5’1” and weighs 100 pounds. Small but perky tits. Beautiful ass and the view from the back is what dreams are made of. I’ll share her number with senior members that have an equally quality to trade me.

[QUOTE=WaterBoi;4548684]Saw the post last night and had a dream about it. So, as someone mentioned this may belong in the escort section but it's definitely better than an average stg experience.

Dreamt that the initial damage was $1. 8. Then an upsell of $. So total damage was $$. 8 In my dream I met with Kaylee. She looked a little older than her pics but still looked good. Great attitude. Nice lapdance and then everything covered. Easy set up. Outcalls only I think.[/QUOTE]Found it. Tiffany looks like a lot of fun. Anyone plundered that?

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4549241][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f3a1201-232a-46d2-9dc6-a1bc5c2d8193[/URL]

If any of you guys can pull it off I highly recommend her if shes stable. Shes 51 and weighs 100 pounds. Small but perky tits. Beautiful ass and the view from the back is what dreams are made of. Ill share her number with senior members that have an equally quality to trade me.[/QUOTE]Sounds like you ran into one who realized while banging you that she was now essentially a hooker. Made her feel bad inside. Probably not cut out for this. Interesting to see if she comes back into the bowl.

The fact she told you to keep the money is a big tell. She realized that you finishing the deed was part of the trade, i. e., she was now a sex worker and one way to try and mitigate the realization was refusing to take the money. Kind of trying to rewind history to when she first walked in the door as the GND. I must say at 19 the rape role play is a bit out there.

[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;4549510]Sounds like you ran into one who realized while banging you that she was now essentially a hooker. Made her feel bad inside. Probably not cut out for this. Interesting to see if she comes back into the bowl.

The fact she told you to keep the money is a big tell. She realized that you finishing the deed was part of the trade, i. e., she was now a sex worker and one way to try and mitigate the realization was refusing to take the money. Kind of trying to rewind history to when she first walked in the door as the GND. I must say at 19 the rape role play is a bit out there.[/QUOTE]That's kinda what I was thinking. Her story of a previous arrangement was made up so that she didn't seem so inexperienced. I don't think she'll be back on SA as being a sb just isn't for everyone. She told me about some serious daddy issues like most of these girls seem to have. I also think the rape play she mentioned has a story behind it. I'm still pretty disappointed today about the whole situation. Physically, she has been my favorite out of all the sb's I've met from Seeking and I would have loved to explore the rape fantasy with her. I did text her today and asked if she would be interested in seeing me again and her response was "no thank you". I had to try.

Called last night to have a girl come over to my hotel at 8:30 am this morning. I was supposed to see a sugar baby last night, but yep no show, so I thought why not. Unfortunately the girl she sent was somebody I had seen when she was a sugar baby, probably a bunch of you have too.

She said her name was Kelly, but I think she was Brittany on SA, nurse with two kids, brought her bag of condoms with her and kind of rushed things when she was a sugar baby. She was one who would make up profiles or have two at a time, she eventually blocked me there cause I would message her on a new profile and she say, hey this is Brittany, and then I wasn't interested. Not as foxy as the rest of them on the sirensva site either. So anyway she asked if I wanted to see her and I said since we have already, not really, she said ok and left. I quickly called back and let her know the story as I don't want to mess things up and not be able to get somebody else later. She said she understood. Definitely will check out again.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;4548959]Can you share what was the damage for an hour?[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=VetSD;4548717]I googled SirensVA. I think it's dotcom. Apparently, SA has become saturated with the same 200 guys and the same 200 girls putting up new profiles every 6 months, so the SBs are desperate, especially during the Holidays. A woman opened a company and is trying to hire every SugarBaby in VA. They're based in Richmond, but they send girls all over Virginia. They're moving into DC and NC. This lady is offering the SBs huge incentives and safety and they're all flocking to her when they get fed up with the site. I saw a girl last night. 19 years old. Could bounce a quarter off her ass. Gorgeous, bubbly, eager to please. Didn't have to spend endless hours texting and getting ghosted.[/QUOTE]I saw a girl last night, totally hot. Long blonde hair. Only works occasionally. I think they charge 160-180 if its a one on one and you're in the Richmond area. We played around and talked before we started bangin in the shower. She said a bunch the girls got off the site because they were being stalked.

There are definitely all kinds on SA and I met a real gem yesterday. I messaged her last week, took her a day or two to get back to me but we exchanged messages on SA for a bit and then moved to texting. She's a mid-30's professional woman (still more than 10 years younger than I am), pics she shared showed a beautiful face and a nice bikini shot. Says she's a busy professional woman not looking for a relationship or a needy, demanding guy, just someone she's attracted to for some occasional good times. No mention of money at all. Arranged a meet & greet in Short Pump yesterday afternoon, she was there before me and was just as beautiful in person as her pics. Greeted me with a nice warm hug and I couldn't help noticing how stacked she was on top of having a great figure. Great conversationalist between normal topics and some sexual. Turns out she's not interested in receiving money at all, the fact that I was about the only guy on SA who didn't offer her money was the reason she met with me before closing her account yesterday. She's also equally into women as she is into men and asked if I like threesomes (FFM) and FC will be her house. Told me the hottest thing ever would be her getting eaten out by her lady friend while I fuck her friend from behind. We both had to be somewhere else afterwards so no visit to the FC this time be we made plans for next week. Gave her a nice deep kiss before leaving and she texted me later to tell me how wet that made her, along with a nice full nude pic. Sexted a big longer, then she said she was going to play with herself thinking about me. Totally different scenario than 99% of the girls on SA but right up my alley.

As an aside, no offense to any of you but there are some really sick fucks on SA from what some of these girls have told me LOL. She said one guy offered her money to watch him suck his buddy's dick. Another girl told me about a guy who wanted to put his dick in an apple and have her stomp on it. Not judging anyone but no wonder a lot of these girls get jaded.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4548205]I'll definitely review as soon as we're done. I don't think I will have a favorable review of this one. My expectations are really high because I have seen some amazing 18-19 yo's over the past few months and this one just feels like a professional sb which isn't my thing. That mixed with the fact that I negotiated her down to a point she didn't want to see me for usually means the experience will be sub par.
[/QUOTE]Quick update, I ended up not seeing her. She was ready and I canceled. I just wasn't feeling it yesterday so I asked her to send me some pics to entice me to see her and she sent a few pics of her bent over in a thong with her cheeks spread and I just wasn't impressed because that isn't really the look that I'm willing to pay for. If any of you guys want the pics and her contact information let me know. She's definitely willing to meet at the FC and I negotiated her down to $2. 5.

I've also messaged a few girls and received messages back that they have applied to SirensVA and were hoping to be working for them soon. I think it's just the lady making fake profiles trying to advertise her new service although one of the girls wrote me several positive messages and then said oh never mind, I see that you're under 40 and I don't mess with sd's under 40 and she blocked me.

[QUOTE=BillCullen;4548351]I had m&g set up near regency, no money was discussed but she ghosted a couple hours before the meeting.[/QUOTE]I talked to her for a week and then she ghosted. Can't take the ghosting.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4549241][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f3a1201-232a-46d2-9dc6-a1bc5c2d8193[/URL]

If any of you guys can pull it off I highly recommend her if shes stable. Shes 51 and weighs 100 pounds. Small but perky tits. Beautiful ass and the view from the back is what dreams are made of. Ill share her number with senior members that have an equally quality to trade me.[/QUOTE]Is there a catch? Is she difficult to deal with? Does she beg for more money?

[QUOTE=BigOne73;4550245]Is there a catch? Is she difficult to deal with? Does she beg for more money?[/QUOTE]Read my post from a few days ago about her. She bailed in the middle of being plowed.

Is her profile still active? When I click the link it says it's gone. Did she block me?

I rejoined SA 2 weeks ago (I only join for a month twice a year). Seems that the college girls (ages 18-23) are populating the SA scene. Most have silly, stupid profiles that say "I want money" or "if you're not in it for money don't contact me. " Also the usual group of scammers (can you meet today, I can sell you pics, videos, etc.) Had one girl post only a pic of her fat ass (wearing jeans) whose profile said "I need money. " She had the nerve to contact me with "hey" and I set her straight about her shitass profile etc. She deleted herself pronto.

But. With some culling, one can find some gems. I found a 25 year old "mixed" girl (black + Puerto Rican). She is a beautiful color and has the sweetest face and beautiful hair. Just my type, about 4 ft 11 and 90 pounds, tiny pussy and even smaller ass, but perfect boobs and nipples. First meeting was in the FC, she made it clear what would make her cum (oral plus FIV) and then rode me for some time (and made a lot of noise). But she is not on birth control, so she finished me with her hand when I got close. This girl is sweet. Second visit to FC was yesterday, and I asked her if she had even been ass fucked. Nope, "but you can do it". I took my time loosening her up with fingers and lube and then slipped my dick in. She grunted and groaned a bit but told me I wasn't hurting her. I ended up blowing my load in her ass, which is a great substitute for her fertile pussy for now (but we discussed her going on some contraception if this turns into a long term thing). 1.5 PPM is worth it.

So, it is a Happy Thankgiving for me. I have 2 more subscription weeks and a couple of M&Gs set up. I think there is one more high FC potential (Asian girl who was born and raised in Siberia wow). So time will tell.

Picture attached.

From Upstate NY. GG.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4550498]Read my post from a few days ago about her. She bailed in the middle of being plowed.

Is her profile still active? When I click the link it says it's gone. Did she block me?[/QUOTE]Her profile is gone.

[QUOTE=BillCullen;4550534]Her profile is gone.[/QUOTE]Thanks. If she had blocked me and was back on Seeking that would have thrown a wrench in my whole assessment of what happened. 🤣129315;. Such a shame she couldn't handle the whole thing. I would have thrown so much cash at her anytime she wanted it her life would have changed. She was perfection in my eyes. That innocent look she gave me staring into my eyes while dt'ing and gagging on my cock was priceless.