Massage Parlor Reports

What was the damage for 4 hands? Heading there tomorrow.

[QUOTE=SamuraiEJack;6704827]Called ahead to Gardenia and was told Blue (my ATF) was at Relax, called Relax to confirm and headed over. Greeted at the door by Kelly, who actually has a very pretty face natural C's with puffy nips (lowkey a turn on). Get to the room and decided to ask if Blue can join us for 4 hands. Got the green light and off to TS. Which at Relax I never expect to be that great because it's so small and cramped but Kelly did a great job all over. TUMA was excellent as she worked deep and switched to Jr while I'm raised up and all fours. Back to the room and she drops to her knees and imo one of the best BJs of the current rotation of girls. She can take it deep and doesn't mind getting gagged, lets you grasp her head as you thrust deep. She tells me to get on the table with my knees on the edge as she got deep TUMA working Jr, in comes Blue who immediately joins by laying on her back underneath me to work Jr while Kelly worked the other end. I started to FF Blue from this position while FIA / FIV. Kelly comes around and gets into doggie right over Blue, she started DATY on Blue, it was so fucking hot. Then both girls get on their knees and go to town, I'm trying my hardest not to finish it's only been 10-15 min tops. I tell Blue to get back on the table for mish, just a frenzy of deep kissing and FOV on Kelly. I finish in the bag inside Blue, just drained. They both start cleaning me up and Blue exits, Kelly gets back on her knees cause Jr is still hard and she starts another BBBJ, there is no way I'm going to MSOG, but I let her keep going anyways just enjoying how much she was working me. I know I have time left so I ask for a massage and thank her for her efforts. After a quick massage I tell her just to lay with me to relax a bit and she does but starts to stroke Jr again, then gets between my legs and starts BL while I'm manually stroking myself. I just knew it was pointless I was dry but she kept trying LOL.

TLDR: Kelly and Blue 4 hands was amazing, I didn't intend on 4 hands but Kelly was too good to pass up and I was there to see Blue.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FootyFanatic14;6704035]Not going to lie, that would upset me if that was me. Just her saying "I really, really wanted to fuck you" while she just took a load in her mouth with extra time on the clock would set me off. If she really wanted to she would do it right there. Then she followed that up by telling you to come back tomorrow? Recognize the signs. That's a play for money. She just got her hour fee and didn't have to fuck? Easy money. Don't get played. Either that or focus on controlling yourself till you get to fuck. What's worse is that there was another post before saying that they got 2 rounds with Miki. At least she gave you your full time. That's the least she could do for you at that point.[/QUOTE]Not going to lie, it was frustrating. I only dream with coins I'm not afraid to lose, and it was my fault anyway.

Ya win some, you lose some.

[QUOTE=Turrbo1994;6705275]Not going to lie, it was frustrating. I only dream with coins I'm not afraid to lose, and it was my fault anyway.

Ya win some, you lose some.[/QUOTE]Not your fault. Just ask for some of your money back next time. I have seen her like 3 x, she would've done it tbh.

[QUOTE=FootyFanatic14;6704191]Also having been there a bunch of times and being a regular of the spa, I can tell you that the reason the AC is always up is because the overall ventilation is terrible there. The rooms themselves don't have vents from the AC. The rooms only vents are above the door to the hallway and the central AC only goes to the hallway. If you were to have a session without the AC on, you both just end up being a sweaty, sticky mess. Don't get me wrong, that can be fun and sexy, but the rooms would probably be musty half way through the day of they didn't run it at full blast.

Trust me, I lost count of how many time I've seen Roxy. She's gives absolute top tier service but if you pop early, she'll shut it down and go straight into the massage. You can get lucky with one of the visiting girls like Miki and get a second round, but only if they like you.[/QUOTE]I was there yesterday with Roxy and after my first pop she asked me if I wanted to go again and of course I said yes and we went at it. Didn't ask for any additional $$ or anything like that. I guess it all comes down to YMMV. Had a great time with her. She is amazing!

It was one of those nights where I had the itch real bad but couldn't line up any dates so decided to try Gardenia after all the positive reviews here. I was a regular at MM before it was shut down. I drew Kelly and she was pretty amazing. Really cute with a nice body and pretty touchy which I like. Got a nice TS with TUMA and BBBJ and then back to the room for some more BBBJ, 69, CG, and mish. Blew pretty early so got a massage for the remaining time. Really nice GFE. Looking forward to going back soon. Was told and paid $$. 8 for the whole experience.

Which AMPs have younger attractive Korean ladies which offer FS? 20's and 30's, not 40-60.

[QUOTE=ForestGreen213;6705588]Which AMPs have younger attractive Korean ladies which offer FS? 20's and 30's, not 40-60.[/QUOTE]I think you should look at a trip to Tampa for that. Pine Tree in St. Pete area and Yoshika in downtown Tampa.

[QUOTE=OlderThanRocks;6705661]I think you should look at a trip to Tampa for that. Pine Tree in St. Pete area and Yoshika in downtown Tampa.[/QUOTE]Man, that's def a trip down memory lane. It's been years since I've made the trek.

Do they still have their roledex system? Those were some of the hottest K girls in FL.

Went out this past Sunday. Decided to go hit up Aqua. Called first to verify Miki was in fact there. "Yes. She is available now, how soon get here?" I will be there in 15 minutes. Arrived in about that time. Was directed to first room on right to wait for her "She busy now". (I think the first room on right is secondary storage for Costco with all the supplies in there. But I digress). I said. I called. Would like to meet her first. After a few minutes, Miki comes in. Says she is busy, but will come back "soon". I noticed the rack many of you speak of. While very nice. I tend to like them a bit smaller. Just a handful is all I need. I told her I would come back another time.

Moved further north on Clark. Next to a discount auto parts. Walked in. Asked for an hour. The lady that greeted me. Appeared to be about same age and build of Miki. Told me to take a seat in the lobby in one of the chairs behind the curtain of beads. After waiting there for over 15 minutes. I decided we needed another venue.

Had to head to another part of town anyway. So hit up VIP spa. Greeted at the door by a much younger (than Miki or other spa) vixen upper 20's / low 30's? Short hair cut. Nice trim figure.

Held my arm back to room. By this time. I only had enough time for 30 minutes (. 6 to the house for 30 min). Told me to get ready. She came back and started on actually half way decent back / shoulder massage. But after a bit of time asked me point blank if I wanted more than just a back massage. Turn over.

Here begins the negotiations. The front of the dress is unzipped and these amazing firm natural tatas are right in front of me to roam and play with. Firm. And a nice handful. Again due to my reduced time. At this point I was only looking for a L1 or maybe L2 experience. I asked how much for L1? She replied. How much you want to give me. I swear we did that dialogue 4 times over. She wasn't going to give her number first. I low balled with. 4 She was NOT pleased. She replied with some ridiculous number. I asked how much for L2. She came back with $ . 6. I was like "um. That would be for everything". She laughed and said "oh. Yeah, that would be everything". What we got to was. 6 for L1 and then I think she wanted $ for L2. I accepted the L1 - but then the dress was zipped back up. Hand roaming OK. But apparently at that rate. No direct touching. LOL. I didn't care.

I am guessing we still had another 10 minutes on the clock and after the hot towel (and good attitude) she asked if I wanted more massage. I was good and relaxed and needed to move along so I declined. Next thing I know I am guessing it was the mamasan that now was in the room and inquired if I wanted to spend time with her (back to the same age bracket and build of Miki and other lady on clark). I said no. I'm good. She then asked if I wanted more massage. They were very eager to meet their end of the bargain on time. Very nice. Again I passed. I asked who was the girl I had seen. And how long will she be here. She said "Lisa. Just been here 2 days. Will be here for the month".

So the moral of the story. Pay the time you want. The price for the extras is the price for the extras regardless of the time. Lisa is new. Younger and a nice tight firm rack on top. When I have more time, I would certainly go back and take a full round with her.

[QUOTE=ThaaAtOne;6705672]Man, that's def a trip down memory lane. It's been years since I've made the trek.

Do they still have their roledex system? Those were some of the hottest K girls in FL.[/QUOTE]I haven't been in almost a year but I don't remember a Rolodex system. Back then I was going pretty often to see Soda so they knew me and always waved me right to the room.

[QUOTE=OlderThanRocks;6705866]I haven't been in almost a year but I don't remember a Rolodex system. Back then I was going pretty often to see Soda so they knew me and always waved me right to the room.[/QUOTE]No rolodex for a few years, but they prefer you to make an appt. If you don't and it's one of the busy times, you might be told to come back.

I tried to visit H&C Spa (near taft vineland and OBT) since I hadn't seen it mentioned in reviews recently but the lady who came out to greet me looked like she hadn't slept in 24 hours and told me that it would be a 30 minute wait for an HR massage. Still curious but wasn't in the mood to take a risk so I headed over to Fen Hong.

There isn't much that is consistent longer than 6 months or so in this hobby, but Fen Hong on Central Florida and OBT has been great for L1 for a while now. New girl that I hadn't seen before (with near perfect english) brought me in. Amazingly good massage with lots of full body weight pressure. Really got me to that point where if nothing else had happened, I would be perfectly happy! Flip happened and the L1 finish was average but she had really nice VERY long nips that I could play with which made it worth while. Decent leg massage to wrap everything up with a bow. I like trying new places, but a really great massage with a L1 finish is always worth returning to!

Anybody figure where this place is?

[QUOTE=WayneHoffman77;6705118]What was the damage for 4 hands? Heading there tomorrow.[/QUOTE]$$$ 40, paid for 45 minutes for 4 hands and went over. Even with the bell ringing from others coming into the front they didn't rush me at all.

New here and in town until Saturday, is there a place where the addresses of some of these places is listed? Specifically from reviews Gardenia and let's relax. Google is giving me mixed results.

Did a pass through O-town today and visited with Angela. Tomorrow is her last day before going back to NY. If you have not had the pleasure of spending so time getting soaked only 1 day left. She is absolutely adorable just my type. Monica and Ana were working but the place was popping. Monica gave me a little massage while I waited for Angela. Shortly into my massage two more of you gents came in taking Monica away and keeping Ana busy. Today was a bit chilly out and Angela kept me warm under her blanket. Let me just say she is is the real deal and going to miss her around. Hopefully she comes back from NY so we can enjoy the super soaker again.

[QUOTE=MyWifeCheated;6705548]It was one of those nights where I had the itch real bad but couldn't line up any dates so decided to try Gardenia after all the positive reviews here. I was a regular at MM before it was shut down. I drew Kelly and she was pretty amazing. Really cute with a nice body and pretty touchy which I like. Got a nice TS with TUMA and BBBJ and then back to the room for some more BBBJ, 69, CG, and mish. Blew pretty early so got a massage for the remaining time. Really nice GFE. Looking forward to going back soon. Was told and paid $$. 8 for the whole experience.[/QUOTE]

You were a regular at MM? Was told and you paid $280? Are you kidding me?
You are killing the pricing structure. Your little head is thinking for you.

[QUOTE=DickJackman;6704980]Sampled another AMP in the Winter Park--Casselberry corridor: Oriental Healing Therapy (OHT). Located in a small strip mall on 436 north of Red Bug. On west side of 436 and just north of Kewannee. Strip mall parking lot can only be accessed while traveling south on 436 so this one can be tough to find. Blink and you've passed it. The nearby small strip mall just south of Kewannee is the home of Butterfly Massage, which I found to be temporarily closed for renovations upon a recent attempted visit.

No mamasan at OHT and was greeted by an attractive and petite Korean woman named Tene (pronounced "teeny" My attempt at spelling her name is an estimate as her English was limited. What wasn't limited was her enthusiasm. She gave an excellent massage and, upon the flip and completion of negotiations, provided a spirited round of FS. Tene has large naturals for her size, slight "baby damage" but an otherwise decent body. Its difficult for me to estimate the age of Asian women but I would estimate 30 yo +/ Paid 240 (80 + 160). It seems every AMP seems to consider this the fair market rate for a one hour massage with FS.

TS was offered but declined as I arrived freshly showered. I think there was another girl on duty -- could hear voices and lots of movement -- but did not see her. Tene asked during negotiations if I had brought condoms. I had. Would FS have been a no go if I had not brought condoms? Don't know but would recommend a hobbyist carry some when visiting an AMP for the first time. What will stand out on this visit is Tene's enthusiasm and eagerness to please. And her "beehive" hairdo -- I think it was an attempt to look taller and it looked good on her. Will definitely repeat.[/QUOTE]Her name is Janey. She will BB and she's a squirter.

[QUOTE=WayneHoffman77;6706555]Did a pass through O-town today and visited with Angela. Tomorrow is her last day before going back to NY. If you have not had the pleasure of spending so time getting soaked only 1 day left. She is absolutely adorable just my type. Monica and Ana were working but the place was popping. Monica gave me a little massage while I waited for Angela. Shortly into my massage two more of you gents came in taking Monica away and keeping Ana busy. Today was a bit chilly out and Angela kept me warm under her blanket. Let me just say she is is the real deal and going to miss her around. Hopefully she comes back from NY so we can enjoy the super soaker again.[/QUOTE]Any idea where in NY Angela is going to? I am based in NY and would love to see her again in my own backyard.

[QUOTE=Trav;6706632]You were a regular at MM? Was told and you paid $280? Are you kidding me?
You are killing the pricing structure. Your little head is thinking for you.[/QUOTE]My little head was thinking for me. It's been a while since I went to an AMP and I didn't do the research here to see what people were paying for an hr. I'm not one that likes to haggle and negotiate either. I'll know better for next time. I'm seeing that the typical rate for an hr is $$.4 total. Is that right?

[QUOTE=DickJackman;6704980]..asked during negotiations if I had brought condoms. I had. Would FS have been a no go if I had not brought condoms? Don't know but would recommend a hobbyist carry some when visiting an AMP...[/QUOTE]I always recommend you bring your own. Or you run the risk of getting recycled rubbers. In all my years in this hobby, I can count on one hand, maybe two, how many times I have seen a girl unwrap a new rubber from its package. Usually, they just magically appear out of nowhere. Chinese have been known to recycle rubbers on an almost industrial scale over in China, so no reason not to expect it is happening here.

[QUOTE=Trav;6706632]You were a regular at MM? Was told and you paid $280? Are you kidding me?
You are killing the pricing structure. Your little head is thinking for you.[/QUOTE]That's what she charges at her place in NY, $200/ hhr one pop and $280/ hr two pops.

Anyone know the address for aqua? I'm getting mixed results when googling, will report back once I can find where's its located at.

What kind of BS is this? These girls wouldn't even give it a thought to try and reuse rubbers. It's not safe for them just as much as it isn't safe for you. The spas buy their covers in bulk orders unwrapped because what spa wants condom wrappers for every one used? They dispose of them in smart and dumb ways. Some cut them up then flush them, others are stupid enough to just put them in the dumpster. If you're really concerned, bring your own then. I bring my own because I enjoy the. 001 and the girls like them too. But please stop spreading this reused condom BS.

[QUOTE=Putzy;6707074]I always recommend you bring your own. Or you run the risk of getting recycled rubbers. In all my years in this hobby, I can count on one hand, maybe two, how many times I have seen a girl unwrap a new rubber from its package. Usually, they just magically appear out of nowhere. Chinese have been known to recycle rubbers on an almost industrial scale over in China, so no reason not to expect it is happening here.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IHeartBoobies1;6706919]Any idea where in NY Angela is going to? I am based in NY and would love to see her again in my own backyard.[/QUOTE]DickJackman said in his review her name was Tene (teeny). Why did you say her name was Janey? Unless you meant Jeanie, that at least sounds close to Tene. Please clarify.

Thanks!

[QUOTE=RowdyReptile;6707480]DickJackman said in his review her name was Tene (teeny). Why did you say her name was Janey? Unless you meant Jeanie, that at least sounds close to Tene. Please clarify.

Thanks![/QUOTE]It Janey. Call and ask for Janey.

Visited Gardenia this morning and drew Sophia. I had called ahead and asked for Lucy because of some your reports, but ended up with Sophia, which was fine, because she was wonderful as well. I won't go into the details with all of the urban dictionary acronyms, suffice it to say it was a wonderful time. $$40 for an hour. Afterwards Lisa (the MMS, there's your one acronym.) introduced me to Lucy and one other girl, I think she said Hailey, but one of you can correct me if I'm wrong. All three girls are very cute. Lucy is TINY! But she also seemed like a vixen so I really want to try and get back to see her before she leaves. I believe Lisa also said yet another girl was going to be coming next week.

On a side note, I wanted to ask if any of you have this issue. I'm not one that orgasms very easily, (for a number of reasons, one being performance anxiety, in that I know I should go but I really am enjoying being with them so much that I don't want it to stop), and there are a number of times that I don't go and the girls feel bad. But I try and tell them it's not their fault, but that I just get too excited and I just enjoy being with them in that way. Has anyone else had that issue or am I just a weirdo?

The gentlemanly crusader.

Quick report.

I had a great experience and quite the workout at Let's Relax today.

I swung in in the late afternoon to get one last session with Angela as I know that she is leaving soon. She has really come into being a top performer in the last month or so and will be missed. I think she said something about coming back later next year. But not sure I understood her correctly.

On the way out. I ran into Mina and Blue. Both were looking amazing as always. It's been quite a few weeks since I've seen Mina and I was still a bit raring to go (thanks to some last minute excitement from Angela). So quick stop at the ATM to fill up the wallet and double-dipped into yet another astounding session with Mina.

These three spas are really bringing in great talent. I've yet to have a bad experience at them since they switched owners.

[QUOTE=FootyFanatic14;6707435]What kind of BS is this? These girls wouldn't even give it a thought to try and reuse rubbers.[/QUOTE]The only BS here is you thinking they buy bulk unwrapped condoms. Do a little research as to what goes on out there. Everyone needs to decide for themselves what risks they are willing to take.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/asia/vietnam-condom-sold-new-scli-intl/index.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=FootyFanatic14;6707435]What kind of BS is this? These girls wouldn't even give it a thought to try and reuse rubbers. It's not safe for them just as much as it isn't safe for you. The spas buy their covers in bulk orders unwrapped because what spa wants condom wrappers for every one used? They dispose of them in smart and dumb ways. Some cut them up then flush them, others are stupid enough to just put them in the dumpster. If you're really concerned, bring your own then. I bring my own because I enjoy the. 001 and the girls like them too. But please stop spreading this reused condom BS.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've seen theirs (still in wrappers) at JY Tokyo and Gardenia. Some of the girls will open them discretely though, before they even start the BBBJ session, so they can quickly get you suited up with no pause.

I still bring my own because I know which brand and size fits me best. Less mishaps that way.

[QUOTE=Putzy;6707710]The only BS here is you thinking they buy bulk unwrapped condoms. Do a little research as to what goes on out there. Everyone needs to decide for themselves what risks they are willing to take.

[URL]https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/asia/vietnam-condom-sold-new-scli-intl/index.html[/URL][/QUOTE]The article is from Vietnam. I doubt this girls are reusing condoms. 1 its gross. And 2 it's way more work and effort than to just buy new ones. Doesn't even make sense to reuse them LOL. Like literally so cheap. They actually give them away in some places. But if your worried bring your own or just don't go.

I get this all too often. If it's not happening with L2 or L3 service, no shame in downgrading to L1 or self-service. Kinda sux to get off that way for the price, but it sux so much more to not get off at all. Look into C or V pills; if one doesn't work, try the other. If neither work you may be needing more of an emotional connection, so try providers that offer GFE-level service (I highly recommend Natalia discussed on UTR board).

[QUOTE=MaestroTime;6707639]On a side note, I wanted to ask if any of you have this issue. I'm not one that orgasms very easily, (for a number of reasons, one being performance anxiety, in that I know I should go but I really am enjoying being with them so much that I don't want it to stop), and there are a number of times that I don't go and the girls feel bad. But I try and tell them it's not their fault, but that I just get too excited and I just enjoy being with them in that way. Has anyone else had that issue or am I just a weirdo?[/QUOTE]

Just came back from Aqua spa and had an amazing time. Came in around morning time, and wasn't busy at all. There are currently three girls in the rotation, Bella, Tina, and the new girl Lisa. The lineup looks great, but ultimately decided to go with Bella. She looks beautiful, her face almost reminds me of a Latina, Chinese mix to me. Opted for a one hour session and she's probably the best experience I had at an AMP in my years of mongering. Good GFE, personality, and popped twice. Will repeat again.

Went to spa serenity on 441 the other day. Drew you you. ?

Anyway, not very fun and table shower BBBJ left a lot to be desired. She was worried I was going to finish in her mouth, and she kept trying to pull a fast one by sliding my dick to the side of her face while wrapped in her hand. Would not advise anyone to partake.

[QUOTE=MongBurgundy;6708177]The article is from Vietnam. [/QUOTE]Here you go. [URL]https://www.newsweek.com/gang-selling-recycled-fake-condoms-7-million-scam-busted-chinese-police-1226453[/URL].

If I don't see it in its original rapper, I'm not using it.

Has an itch today. Made the drive to the G-spot. Man what a beauty. All natural d cups. Soft skin and perfect figure. Smoke show. Thick long black hair. I mean just wow. TS was a little rushed. But honestly. I just like them cleaning me up before the main event so I didn't mind. Session was great and even if it wasn't. She's so hot I could care less LOL. She's probably in her late 20's early 30's. I can never tell though. Got an hour 2 pops for the $$. 4. She did ask for more money for round two. I said sure but I left everything in my car. Which I do for that very reason. Ended up not paying though. Just played dumb. But honestly she was work more but we can be giving in to these price hikes. Anyway. Get over there. You'll be happy you did.

[QUOTE=SGreg1234;6708631]Went to spa serenity on 441 the other day. Drew you you. ?

Anyway, not very fun and table shower BBBJ left a lot to be desired. She was worried I was going to finish in her mouth, and she kept trying to pull a fast one by sliding my dick to the side of her face while wrapped in her hand. Would not advise anyone to partake.[/QUOTE]I went there about 8 months ago and have not been back. Walked in and rite away got grabbed from in front by one of the Asians. I mean she grabbed my dick, like let's go. Straight into room. She pulled my pants down less then 2 minutes she's playing with tickle me Elmo. Says you fuck me good. Next thing she sucking like a 747 jet. So I grabbed the back of her head pushed it all the way down her throat. Still she sucking like 747 and it's about to hit V1 . Which is velocity or rotation. So as Winkies unloading, she's gargling like crazy. She finishes I finish then she bends over the table and says pick hole. I go for top hole. She lets her to yell like no tomorrow. I think this whole event lasted 15 minutes and she charge me for 45. But that's OK. I got mine if she didn't get hers that's her problem not mine.

[QUOTE=Putzy;6708659]Here you go. [URL]https://www.newsweek.com/gang-selling-recycled-fake-condoms-7-million-scam-busted-chinese-police-1226453[/URL].

If I don't see it in its original rapper, I'm not using it.[/QUOTE]Are you even reading these articles LOL 2005 and 2015 incidents in China. Nothing to do with reusing condoms in massage parlors. Just shitty production and yes they may have reused condoms but they repackage them. So you'd never know anyway. Nothing about massage parlors reusing condoms on clients. But what ever. Like I said bring your own.

[QUOTE=ChickenLegs;6708582]Just came back from Aqua spa and had an amazing time. Came in around morning time, and wasn't busy at all. There are currently three girls in the rotation, Bella, Tina, and the new girl Lisa. The lineup looks great, but ultimately decided to go with Bella. She looks beautiful, her face almost reminds me of a Latina, Chinese mix to me. Opted for a one hour session and she's probably the best experience I had at an AMP in my years of mongering. Good GFE, personality, and popped twice. Will repeat again.[/QUOTE]For anyone who's confused, Bella is Roxy, Tina is Connie and Lisa is the girl who came in for Miki. Not sure why they changed their names but just making sure people weren't scared that the girls moved on. They didn't and they are still as great as usual.

[QUOTE=MaestroTime;6707639]On a side note, I wanted to ask if any of you have this issue. I'm not one that orgasms very easily, (for a number of reasons, one being performance anxiety, in that I know I should go but I really am enjoying being with them so much that I don't want it to stop), and there are a number of times that I don't go and the girls feel bad. But I try and tell them it's not their fault, but that I just get too excited and I just enjoy being with them in that way. Has anyone else had that issue or am I just a weirdo?

The gentlemanly crusader.[/QUOTE]Not a weirdo. Everyone responds to different things. As stated below, give the blue or yellow pills a try. I do, to help last as long as possible, and can try a bunch of different positions, when going with a 4 hand session (those raincoat changes can be distracting). I'll sometimes grab a beer or two, before a session, but that's more for flavor than performance. It can help you relax, if the performance anxiety is still a concern.

When in some other parts of the country, where the "apartment" business model is the norm, I frequently bring a few ice cold craft brews to the session. Some girls absolutely love them. Others don't care in the slightest (or they just run them to the fridge, to drink later or give to a friend). One girl from [URL]littletokyolv.com[/URL] basically shot-gunned an ice cold bomber imperial IPA (I think like 9% ABV) in about 10 seconds, then started an ice cold BBBJ. That was an interesting sensation. She got a little crazy, that night. Another possible factor, if you do bring / share a beer during the session, is that they know you are not LE, so they might be able to relax a little.

Anyway. Just find your own ways to relax. Some guys smoke up. Some guys get totally hammered, and then they are sloppy drunks. Some guys don't like daytime visits (too public). Some guys don't like night time visits (too risky). I would also suggest trying different ladies, until you find one that is truly a good fit for you. Some girls just totally "click", while others just don't feel right. Good example is Mina (sp?). Great body, great face, but I just didn't click with her. Most of the guys here are bonkers over her, but I found her to be a bit robotic. While at the same time, there are some lesser known ladies where the chemistry is just insane, and everything clicks. Keep experimenting, until you find your groove.