"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Marcus Weiner;1879401]I'm sorry but I believe a M&G should not have any compensation, .[/QUOTE]I am with you here.

I am new to the bowl (couple months) and finding out that GPS is more prevalent then I thought. I was exchanging emails with this babe today, and she is all excited about a M & G. Sounds like a plan. Found her today and set up a M & G for tomorrow lunch. The kicker is she then asks how much am I bringing for her to the M & G. I nicely said no sugar just to have coffee and lunch. Her next move is crickets. No response. Her loss, not mine for I still have my money and did not waste 2 hours.

My first set of POTs have not worked out. Four GPS and two cold feet the day of the first meet. But getting the hang of it because I am getting them into conversation to meet the same day and doing a good job of weeding out the GPS girls real quick. I agree the young ones need to be snagged fast because many do "freeze" when they figure out they have to put out for real.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1878680]Sent my intro letter. Her reply. Her first day on the site.

"Wow! First off. Someone to write that much gets my attention and you sure did. Well let me start to say I'm very interested, this is my first time doing the SD / SB thing. I'm looking for something new. Not too serious, at first. Time only can tell. I want a SD to help me out. As I would luv giving myself. And WOW kissing. I luv it! I've never got that very good and I luv it. I'm so wanting to see and try your kissing. I'm real. No games. No drama. Happy going all around."

Txted and talked to her. Going to go see her on my lunch break while her kid is at school. She looks Like a 7/8/9? So far. No makeup. All natural. Didn't ask if she shaved, But most do. Agreed to the $ if we progress past the m&g.

Reading the huge number of posts lately has gotten me motivated. I am so picky at this stage its harder to find anyone to hook up with. But I am hitting up some 25 to 29 year olds and see what happens.[/QUOTE]Went and met her in the parking lot of her apartment bldg tonite. She was more like a 6/4/6/3. Only tested her kissing skills. (not good) Only cost me 5 dollars gas and an hour of my time. 3 latina m&g's in 3 weeks. And nothing. The one I really want is a girl that works at the same club as my "girlfriend". I have seen her internet ad. Boy am I tempted. 5'5' and 100 lbs. But all hell would break loose when I got caught as this girl tells her almost everything.

[url]http://310-867-0724.escortphonelist.com/new-young-hott-ebony-60-incall-pecial-just-for-you-1102852.html[/url]

[QUOTE=HappyHunter44; 1879466]I am with you here.

I am new to the bowl (couple months) and finding out that GPS is more prevalent then I thought. I was exchanging emails with this babe today, and she is all excited about a M & G. Sounds like a plan. Found her today and set up a M & G for tomorrow lunch. The kicker is she then asks how much am I bringing for her to the M & G. I nicely said no sugar just to have coffee and lunch. Her next move is crickets. No response. Her loss, not mine for I still have my money and did not waste 2 hours.

My first set of POTs have not worked out. Four GPS and two cold feet the day of the first meet. But getting the hang of it because I am getting them into conversation to meet the same day and doing a good job of weeding out the GPS girls real quick. I agree the young ones need to be snagged fast because many do "freeze" when they figure out they have to put out for real.[/QUOTE]I usually cover gas and depending on how the date goes may throw in a little extra.

To good to be true, always is.

I will update more later, but in rapid fire.

She is bi and has a gf, who has a key. So I have to treat her like she is married.

She requires little money but lots of attention.

Bad oral hygiene

[QUOTE=BigTigger;1879658]I usually cover gas and depending on how the date goes may throw in a little extra.[/QUOTE]Thanks, BigTigger! I get the point of putting in a little investment. "priming the pump" so-to-speak. I will add this to my approach.

I would estimate 75% of them are on SA or SD4M or AM or another site. Don't waste your time!

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1879316]Any brother tried that website?

I made a few 100 per date offers and half of them got accepted, but I couldn't communicate with the girls.

You need to buy 100 credits ($50) to start unlocking their accepted offers for 20 credit each.

So if you don't cough up the $, you can't talk to any girl. At least SD4M and SA got some free monthly trial so you could give it a try.

This site looks a gold digger to me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;1879740]Thanks, BigTigger! I get the point of putting in a little investment. "priming the pump" so-to-speak. I will add this to my approach.[/QUOTE]If they balk at gas money, then you know it really is a waste of time. You can also say,"if we decide to do more than meet and greet, of course I will give more. I just don't want the giving to be unbalanced with were we are in our SD / SB relationship."

BT

[QUOTE=BigTigger;1879660]To good to be true, always . Bad oral hygiene[/QUOTE]I hate that. I don't understand. I am not a prude and I am not afraid to dive in there and play all kinds of kinky games.

But please come to the game smelling good. What is it with these women that don't understand this?

I thought that was a guy thing.

Anyway good point Tig.

Revvo

MW, what is ESP?

Extra Sensory Perception! Mind Reading. Not Extra Smelly Pussy!

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;1879806]MW, what is ESP?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1879316]Any brother tried that website?

I made a few 100 per date offers and half of them got accepted, but I couldn't communicate with the girls.

You need to buy 100 credits ($50) to start unlocking their accepted offers for 20 credit each.

So if you don't cough up the $, you can't talk to any girl. At least SD4M and SA got some free monthly trial so you could give it a try.

This site looks a gold digger to me.[/QUOTE]Check out Anderson Cooper 's show segment on WYP 12/10/2012. One woman was laughing about ripping off the guys who pay big bucks for wining and dining her. You could luck out and hit it off with your expensive date but this model is a loser as far as I can see. At least with SA sex is on the table unless otherwise stated. Saw a few profiles in my area sex was explicitly not an option. Really?

There are 10 charlatans for every real SB on WYP. I have a rotation of 4 or 5 girls that I've met off of there. Each one knew what the stakes were and what I was looking for. Only common sense and good communication will help you win. I've made it clear to several that M&G's were gratis, with exception to the meal and drinks they were getting. The ones that have a problem with it, and aren't even open to being offered gas money, are only gold-diggers and not interested in a true SD / SB relationship.

[QUOTE=FredMoore;1879847]Check out Anderson Cooper 's show segment on WYP 12/10/2012. One woman was laughing about ripping off the guys who pay big bucks for wining and dining her. You could luck out and hit it off with your expensive date but this model is a loser as far as I can see. At least with SA sex is on the table unless otherwise stated. Saw a few profiles in my area sex was explicitly not an option. Really?[/QUOTE]

About 5 yrs agoI met a girl off of a local social site specific to my area. We met for lunch and I gave her a $50 gift card after our meeting. I do not usually offer funds to meet but if I like the girl I will then give them a spiff. She was way UTR and from conversation etc I was likely her first SD into the bowl. We did not even talk money etc until after our lunch. I texted her and asked if she still had an interest and she said yes. So I made an offer of an allowance of $1200 meh. I said how often would she be available and she said whenever I wanted. She does have a 2 yr old at the time. Annnnnd so were off after our next meeting. Blonde. 5" 5' blue eyes fit. Seems nice enough but has grown up in a difficult background. Pretty good in the FC. And willing to have all entry ways filled. Some bondage etc. I have her on the green dot and tell her I will load 2x a mth $600. All good for the first meh. She made time when I wanted and heck. She even texted a couple times and said. I have a couple hours available you should come fuck me. So its like the 3rd payment on the card and I text her the code. I made an error. Left off or added a number so when she tried to reload it did not work. I am on the road driving and I get this text right out of the gate saying "WTF. Did you give me a fake code. I'm like ummm no. But I am driving and will check out what happened in a couple hours when I stop. She was like I need it right now. I'm like. Umm can't do. So in a couple hours I ck and get her the right number. Of course I am like WTF. But go back to the routine. Same thing happen about 6 weeks later. And she is like you better not be trying to f me over etc. I have since learned more about her background and can see where the explosive personality comes from. So. Now I am like how do I bail with minimal damage. Soo. I am perusing the SD sites under my fake profile (for the nubs. You should ALWAYS have 2 profiles. A real one and a fake one so you can double check your babies to see if they really shut down theirs). Annnnd she has now officially enetered the bowl herself. I do not say anything for a couple weeks. And then she is not as available as she use to be. You can guess why. Another SD. (FYI. Ground rules were no other SD's). So I lie and say some story about a couple bad months at work and Imay have to cut back on the allowance. She is like. Thats fine cause I have a new guy and is giving me $3k amth and a car. We have all heard that story. So I'm like thats fine. I wish you well. WELL. I'll be damned. I see pics posted of her on her local social site. Driving a BMW. Pics of her on trips. And new boobs to boot. This is all over about 4 mths time. Then I see her profile reappear on the SD site. Annnnnd no more BMW pics. So obviously she got snappy with her new SD and he said f off. I was of course like. I dodged a bullet and feel some sorrow for the new guy. But hey. Its the chances we take. She is on the SD site off and on over a couple years then no more. I find her on FB and friend her (using fake profile) just to monger. I see she is not working etc and complaining about money. So I say hey. You up to work something out (under my fake profile) and she is like yeah. A little back and forth and I offer her $300 to meet. She says she needs 3, 000. Yeah RIGHT. I say $300. She says my car needs work but can meet for $1500. Whatever. I end it there. Now we come to Aug 2013. I am pursing the BP ads and low and behold. She is not an escort. Now I do not wish her ill will and she has since had another child. So there are alot of unfortunate factors in her life. Which I wish better for any person. But she then is arrested for doing the deed. Its justa sotry of the rise and fall of a GPS. So to the baby's that peruse this forum. If you have a good SD. And he treats you fairly. Actually cares. And plans on having you around. Do not be so quick to cross the fence to the greener grass. Remember. That green grass probably has alot of fetilizer just below the surface!

[QUOTE=Marcus Weiner;1879834]Extra Sensory Perception! Mind Reading. Not Extra Smelly Pussy![/QUOTE]LOL. Glad it's not the latter.

Back when I was just getting into using SA and SDFM I did buy the minimum number of credits on there. I was pretty much trying all of the sites out. I went on 3 dates. All busts. Two were with women who ended up with profiles on SA. I'm not a fan of the credit-based sites anyway. They are definite boarder-edge rip offs. I do believe they either pay or give something to some women just to entice you into spending credits. I have an AM report that I'll post soon. They're also credit-based. I know someone on here was mentioning AF. They're credit-based also, right?

Travelin.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1879316]Any brother tried that website?

I made a few 100 per date offers and half of them got accepted, but I couldn't communicate with the girls.

You need to buy 100 credits ($50) to start unlocking their accepted offers for 20 credit each.

So if you don't cough up the $, you can't talk to any girl. At least SD4M and SA got some free monthly trial so you could give it a try.

This site looks a gold digger to me.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FredMoore;1879847]Check out Anderson Cooper 's show segment on WYP 12/10/2012. One woman was laughing about ripping off the guys who pay big bucks for wining and dining her. You could luck out and hit it off with your expensive date but this model is a loser as far as I can see. At least with SA sex is on the table unless otherwise stated. Saw a few profiles in my area sex was explicitly not an option. Really?[/QUOTE]I think the WYP site puts an erroneous idea in their heads that sex does not have to be involved, and that guys will pay just for the pleasure of taking them out for drinks and dinner. It starts things out at an imbalance of power and I can't see how it can easily be surmounted. You've already demonstrated that you will pay for nothing, so why wouldn't they keep on offering you more of the same?

Now in all honesty, I've paid for dozens of coffees or white wines at m&gs and then things just never develop from there, but that is my choice to not pursue a relationship. I've also had a few babies from SA and SD4Me ask for compensation for their time to come to the m&g, but that doesn't even leave the starting gate. Only one time did I offer to give a baby money for gas, since she had driven an hour to meet me for lunch, and she totally freaked out and went postal on me! To this day I can't quite figure out why that made her so mad, but needless to say, her panties did not even come close to the floor!

I firmly believe that the kind of site like SA or SD, where the underlying implication is that if the two of you hit it off, have "chemistry", and agree on the sugar, the FC is the logical next stop, sets the same expectations in the minds of the SB and the SD. In all my years, I have never been tricked or ripped off by any baby, no matter how crazy they turn out to be.

Peace,

Scott

I know there was some talk a bit ago about AM. I've also tried them out. Again they fall under the sites that are credits-based rather than a monthly charge.

I've bought credits twice on there. I'm 57, in good shape, not super handsome, but not ugly either, well-educated and can write fairly well. I've sent out 132 messages to women who were in their 20s to 40s. In all of that I have received two responses. One from a fairly hot 30 year old who I've had an on-going email relationship. I don't think she ever wants to really meet, she just wants to feel naughty by communicating with me. The other was a 30 year old, recently divorced, fugly. She seemed hot to trot, but I just couldn't bring myself to go through with it I found her so unattractive.

My opinion is that unless you are under 45, good looking, in great shape, and have lots of game, you're wasting your money. The ladies are pretty much in control there. The attractive ones get literally hundreds of responses and pretty much have their pick. And they are VERY picky. The majority of them are married which means to take the risk of having an affair they want it to be with their "perfect" man. The single ones are mostly looking for a sugar daddy or are UTR escorts. I have seen a few on there that had SA profiles as well. Even the 40s ones are cougars mostly looking for younger boy-toys. And I'll bet they're finding them.

I also feel that they also in some way compensate women to lure you into chat where you really burn the credits. I did receive a couple of offers to chat, and I always replied with my email and yahoo messenger info. I never heard from them there, LOL.

Anyway, that's my experience.

Travelin

The recent discussions of the different sites where the babies hang out got me thinking.

Is it possible to rate the sites by ROI or CPP (cost per pop).

Frankly, I have found the most success from CL, yea it's a big miss and very little hit. As a matter of fact, my new ATF was found on CL. But I think CL is probably the cheapest place to find pussies (there's no monthly charge, credit cost, etc). But at the same time lots of work to find a good gem.

My next successful sources of finding babies are SA and then SD4M. SA has more babies, and of higher qualities then SD4M, at least in my areas. However, the SA girls seem to demand more sugar where I live.

It seems that AM and WYP is really a lost cause and probably fall somewhere at the bottom. Too much upfront costs and lots of GPS girls. Heck, I've seen guys have much more success from dating sites such as Cupid or POF with minimal cost / effort compare to what I've seen with AM / WYP.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1880297]The recent discussions of the different sites where the babies hang out got me thinking.

Is it possible to rate the sites by ROI or CPP (cost per pop).

Frankly, I have found the most success from CL, yea it's a big miss and very little hit. As a matter of fact, my new ATF was found on CL. But I think CL is probably the cheapest place to find pussies (there's no monthly charge, credit cost, etc). But at the same time lots of work to find a good gem.

My next successful sources of finding babies are SA and then SD4M. SA has more babies, and of higher qualities then SD4M, at least in my areas. However, the SA girls seem to demand more sugar where I live.

It seems that AM and WYP is really a lost cause and probably fall somewhere at the bottom. Too much upfront costs and lots of GPS girls. Heck, I've seen guys have much more success from dating sites such as Cupid or POF with minimal cost / effort compare to what I've seen with AM / WYP.[/QUOTE]I don't like SA. I like SD4M. I used to get hits off CL, but no more. AM and WYP seem like a ripoff from what I have read.

[url]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=profile&pmid=3960326[/url]

[url]http://www.hogtied.com/site/shoot/32095-First-Timer-Bella-Bends-Lives-Up-To-Her-Name.html?c=1[/url]

ME. Whats the daily sponsorship rate. I only ask since you put it out there.

HER. $1000 is my minimum.

[url]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/index.php?page=read_mail&id=280968889&ob=[/url]

$100 hahahaha my time is worth a million Dollars!

I get these all the time. Or "hey you"re cool, but I need $$"

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1879781]If they balk at gas money, then you know it really is a waste of time. You can also say,"if we decide to do more than meet and greet, of course I will give more. I just don't want the giving to be unbalanced with were we are in our SD / SB relationship."

BT[/QUOTE]Got it. Thanks. That is a good line to have when in that situation.

Sorry for being so thick, but what is WYP? .

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1880297]The recent discussions of the different sites where the babies hang out got me thinking.

Is it possible to rate the sites by ROI or CPP (cost per pop).

Frankly, I have found the most success from CL, yea it's a big miss and very little hit. As a matter of fact, my new ATF was found on CL. But I think CL is probably the cheapest place to find pussies (there's no monthly charge, credit cost, etc). But at the same time lots of work to find a good gem.

My next successful sources of finding babies are SA and then SD4M. SA has more babies, and of higher qualities then SD4M, at least in my areas. However, the SA girls seem to demand more sugar where I live.

It seems that AM and WYP is really a lost cause and probably fall somewhere at the bottom. Too much upfront costs and lots of GPS girls. Heck, I've seen guys have much more success from dating sites such as Cupid or POF with minimal cost / effort compare to what I've seen with AM / WYP.[/QUOTE]Obviously different areas have a different concentration on particular sites. Now I've made it a point to try to have success on each site that I actively work. The only one to really seem like too much work was tagged. For me, here are my rankings. I've gotten goodies through these sites in the following states (VA, DC, MD, NC, PA, DE, Stl (MO) , NJ, CO, OH)

1. SA.

2. CL (High success rate, but lower quality)

3. Sugar Daddie (I love the instant Messenger feature)

4. Arrangement Finders (Moving up the list, still needs a lot more members)

5. SD4Me

6. Ashley Madision (too much money + too much time)

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1879660]To good to be true, always is.

I will update more later, but in rapid fire.

She is bi and has a gf, who has a key. So I have to treat her like she is married.

She requires little money but lots of attention.

Bad oral hygiene[/QUOTE]Ok, I have more time to go into details. We've now seen each other about 5 or 6 times. She absolutely loves sex and doesn't care if it's long or short. We had our second hotel date Thursday night. It was supposed to be a hotel-dinner-hotel date, but we never made it out of the hotel the first time. Never ate any food. I had just put $.4 in her account for the week, so she was happy so I only needed to give. 2 for the sitter.

As we were getting ready for one of our dates, I asked her about being "bi" as it was stated on her profile. Then she finally let's me know that she has a GF who does not approve. So her being with me is actually cheating and would destroy her 1 year old relationship. I thanked her for the information, promised to do my part and told her she really should have told me this sooner. Now with that news in hand, I was a little disappointed because she presented herself as totally free and available. Her GF has a key to her place and is not used to her not being home when she calls, etc.

So already we had some mini-drama when I texted and the GF was using the phone. She doesn't have my number saved so when the response was "who is this", I knew what was up and followed along and just said I had the wrong number. Then one of our dates was cancelled because the GF came over and did not leave. During the hotel date, she fell asleep hard and we went way past the time. The GF was blowing up her phone. So eventually once we decided to leave around 12am, we had to make a mad dash back to her place, she had to call the sitter and make sure the GF did not come by, we had to do the "sshhhhh be quiet while I call her" thing. It's just as if she's married.

Now, I'm not giving up on her. But with this type of relationship that she has, I'll never be able to do some of the more fantasy SD things. But it's cool. She has a great personality, great body, the sex is great, she's very submissive and pretty much does what I tell her to do (barring gf conflicts of course). I do have this Sat, Sun and next Fri / Sat overnights free and I had originally planned to use her. Now I don't think she's going to be able to be my #1. She claims she's moved me out of SD status into BF status.

I asked what that means.

1. She's not dealing with any other men.

2. I can have the goodies any time that I like

3. She just wants attention, so money is not an issue.

4. I can give any amount of money at any time. There isn't an arrangement.

5. I can take pictures, etc. She's adopted using the phrase "anything for you".

We'll see how this goes.

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My ATF has found a man she's going to be in regular relationship with.

I have a date with MsCoolSlim tomorrow night. Her situation has gotten worse, but she appreciates my persistence.

Saw MsNurseBooty briefly yesterday. I was trying to drop her, but she's not having it, LOL. She was sick, I stopped by for 30 mins, took her some breakfast and. 40 in cash. I've not seen her in over a month.

MsLatinaMILF has a BF. So we are on pause

[QUOTE=Marcus Weiner;1879401]. Anyway, if you play on WYP or even SA and live in the Baltimore DC area, do not waste your time with these GPS POT's or charlatans.[/QUOTE]I can veirfy #3 is GPS. Way up there!

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1880297]The recent discussions of the different sites where the babies hang out got me thinking.

Is it possible to rate the sites by ROI or CPP (cost per pop).

Frankly, I have found the most success from CL, yea it's a big miss and very little hit. As a matter of fact, my new ATF was found on CL. But I think CL is probably the cheapest place to find pussies (there's no monthly charge, credit cost, etc). But at the same time lots of work to find a good gem.

My next successful sources of finding babies are SA and then SD4M. SA has more babies, and of higher qualities then SD4M, at least in my areas. However, the SA girls seem to demand more sugar where I live.

It seems that AM and WYP is really a lost cause and probably fall somewhere at the bottom. Too much upfront costs and lots of GPS girls. Heck, I've seen guys have much more success from dating sites such as Cupid or POF with minimal cost / effort compare to what I've seen with AM / WYP.[/QUOTE]I am a CL man, looking to expand my grazing ground, excellent executive summary on where to look.

Safe and Happy grazing

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Hey Tig is it #3 from the top or bottom. Top is the very sexy AA girl, bottom is the waifish looking Caucasian brunette. The one on the bottom I'm working on to cure her Syndrome and make her realize that her Pussy is not made of Gold. Here's 2 more pics of the AA girl. She is a complete waste of time with no sense of humor. A true Gold-digger and not worth my time. MW.

[QUOTE=BigTigger;1880704]I can veirfy #3 is GPS. Way up there![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1880647]Obviously different areas have a different concentration on particular sites. Now I've made it a point to try to have success on each site that I actively work. The only one to really seem like too much work was tagged. For me, here are my rankings. I've gotten goodies through these sites in the following states (VA, DC, MD, NC, PA, DE, Stl (MO) , NJ, CO, OH)

1. SA.

2. CL (High success rate, but lower quality)

3. Sugar Daddie (I love the instant Messenger feature)

4. Arrangement Finders (Moving up the list, still needs a lot more members)

5. SD4Me

6. Ashley Madision (too much money + too much time) [/QUOTE]My $.02, fwiw. I've only used SA and Ashley Madison. And SA is waaay better. Hotter chicks who want to serve you. I actually had an AM hookup once who got mad at me because she did not cum. WTF.

I'd agree AM is expensive, and it takes TONS of work. Having said that, its paid off big for me a few times with insatiable milfs wanting all the free sex I could give them. But it does take awhile. One note on AM, I'm pretty sure many of the profiles are fake, I wonder if the site puts them up to make it look like more women are on there. If you see profile with no photos and only a one-sentence "looking to break the monotony of everyday life" kind of thing, well, theres a ton of those on there and I'm guessing they are fake.

Would love to hear how those of you on CL do it, never really tried that.

Got to head out. Insatiable MILF waiting.

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Hey Tig is it #3 from the top or bottom. Top is the very sexy AA girl, bottom is the waifish looking Caucasian brunette. The one on the bottom I'm working on to cure her Syndrome and make her realize that her Pussy is not made of Gold. Here's 2 more pics of the AA girl. She is a complete waste of time with no sense of humor. A true Gold-digger and not worth my time. MW.[/QUOTE]Yes the AA, even with my skills it was a no-go, LOL.

BT

So, I've decided to expand my hunting ground and signed up with ArrangementFinders.

I haven't paid the membership fee yet, but just browsing through the site I really like it. Pretty up to date, clean, and has a decent look to it.

Also see quite a few interesting babies up there. Pretty decent quality SBs in my areas.

Any brother has good success with this particular site?

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO; 1881100]So, I've decided to expand my hunting ground and signed up with ArrangementFinders.

I haven't paid the membership fee yet, but just browsing through the site I really like it. Pretty up to date, clean, and has a decent look to it.

Also see quite a few interesting babies up there. Pretty decent quality SBs in my areas.

Any brother has good success with this particular site?[/QUOTE]I've been using it exclusively for the past month. I've had decent success. My current #1 seed is from there, MsLilMama. It's not as many POTs as with the other sites, but it's good hunting ground. My advice is to go ahead and pay and try to get your money's worth in that first month. Use a prepaid card with only the money needed for the month on it. They ask you to call to cancel. So it's best to just have a prepaid card where you can decide if you want to keep going or not.

From my post on the other board:
I eventually broke down and paid for a month. I've manage to get a decent amount of conversations and responses. I've been able to get 3 dates out of it. One is my new main SB. One I've had some backseat fun with, kissing-licking the kitty, but no full blown tiggabounce yet. The other did not look as good as her pictures and was too overweight, too ghetto and too expensive. I've had a few that flaked out and one that I put a pause on before we met, because even though she was worth the amount she wanted, I was already gainfully drained by my new SB.

So, like many other sites, if you work it, you can be successful. There is some GPS and there doesn't seem to be as many choices as with the other main SD / SB sites.

BT

Either the girls think the economy is going up, or the quality I am targeting is higher. Because the percentage of affirmative responses seems to be going down.

So the fee you pay gets you all the benefits as much as you want to use them, right? I notice on the sign up page there's credits listed above the price. It isn't a site that charges you credits for contacting a SB is it?

Thanks!

Travelin.

[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1881111]I've been using it exclusively for the past month. I've had decent success. My current #1 seed is from there, MsLilMama. It's not as many POTs as with the other sites, but it's good hunting ground. My advice is to go ahead and pay and try to get your money's worth in that first month. Use a prepaid card with only the money needed for the month on it. They ask you to call to cancel. So it's best to just have a prepaid card where you can decide if you want to keep going or not.

From my post on the other board:

I eventually broke down and paid for a month. I've manage to get a decent amount of conversations and responses. I've been able to get 3 dates out of it. One is my new main SB. One I've had some backseat fun with, kissing-licking the kitty, but no full blown tiggabounce yet. The other did not look as good as her pictures and was too overweight, too ghetto and too expensive. I've had a few that flaked out and one that I put a pause on before we met, because even though she was worth the amount she wanted, I was already gainfully drained by my new SB.

So, like many other sites, if you work it, you can be successful. There is some GPS and there doesn't seem to be as many choices as with the other main SD / SB sites.

BT[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TravelinSD; 1881238]So the fee you pay gets you all the benefits as much as you want to use them, right? I notice on the sign up page there's credits listed above the price. It isn't a site that charges you credits for contacting a SB is it?

Thanks!

Travelin.[/QUOTE]The credits are there to send virtual gifts, priority mail and stuff like that. I believe instant messaging cost credits too. But sending and receiving email is part of the monthly fee.

One thing about having a bi SB is that she is used to getting orgasms without penetration. So this last time after our first round, she hops on top and starts kissing. That got her so wet. She then did this body to body rub at a slight angle. The pressure on my soft penis hurt at times, but it was not unbearable. As she got closer to an orgams, she took my soft tiggastick and put it right inside her vagina. She was moving in a way where it was flip flopping inside of her without coming out. Before you know it, she had this loud body shaking orgasm right there on top of me. Later she thanked me and I laughed because all I did was lay there, LOL.

21 year old AA. She needs $500 within 2 weeks to stay in school. Cute face and smoking body, hips, butt and boobs. She looks to be about 5'1. MsLlMama is 5'1 also and 110 lbs. I am guessing this one is about 115-120. She can meet twice a week. We have only exchanged emails, I will be talking with her today. Hopefully, I can get a meet and greet today. I'm going to see if I can get her to accept $500 per month in exchange for meeting twice a week. Or better put, since she's a CL find, she's probably not going to ask. So I'll give her funds at a rate of $500 per month and see how it goes.

MsLilMama is going to be on an allowance of $400 per month, but she'll get other gifts along the way for her house. By the time it's over, I will have furnished her entire apartment. I'm expecting to get a key within the next month also. However, with the wifey restrictions that MsLilMama has (she had to cancel a bootycall last night), I may need another #1 seed. So we'll see if the CL cutie can overtake her.

BT

Been keeping a low profile on here since my report that the warden found an unused condom of mine while doing the wash. It was a harrowing experience, but I have survived with marriage relatively intact. I wish I had an excuse prepared already when she found it, but resorted to the deny deny deny logic by default. She is still very suspicious of everything I do now, but has not brought the incident up in well over a month so things have quieted down considerably. The worst repercussion has been that my SB activities are harder to schedule now because every change in schedule or work trip planned is constantly questioned.

Still, I'm so hooked on the SD world that I have found it almost impossible to quit. I have a really nice, late 30s single nurse that I have been with for some time now. She is fantastic in bed, loves oral and anal, and seems to enjoy my company (and of course my money). I also am using a 21 YO local college student and a backup booty call when scheduling is tough with my nurse SB. All of this translates to between 1 and 2 SB visits per week. It's still been a pretty good life.

So there IS life after condom discovery. Just have to watch myself REAL closely to make sure I don't F- up royally again.

I've been keeping up with the forum. Great stories. My hat is off to Hollywood, Scott, BT, and Revvo especially for the massive juggling acts they do on a routine basis. I'd love to do more, but can't find the time to make it happen.

[QUOTE=AliasSM; 1881628]Been keeping a low profile on here since my report that the warden found an unused condom of mine while doing the wash. It was a harrowing experience, but I have survived with marriage relatively intact. I wish I had an excuse prepared already when she found it, but resorted to the deny deny deny logic by default. She is still very suspicious of everything I do now, but has not brought the incident up in well over a month so things have quieted down considerably. The worst repercussion has been that my SB activities are harder to schedule now because every change in schedule or work trip planned is constantly questioned.

Still, I'm so hooked on the SD world that I have found it almost impossible to quit. I have a really nice, late 30s single nurse that I have been with for some time now. She is fantastic in bed, loves oral and anal, and seems to enjoy my company (and of course my money). I also am using a 21 YO local college student and a backup booty call when scheduling is tough with my nurse SB. All of this translates to between 1 and 2 SB visits per week. It's still been a pretty good life.

So there IS life after condom discovery. Just have to watch myself REAL closely to make sure I don't F- up royally again.

I've been keeping up with the forum. Great stories. My hat is off to Hollywood, Scott, BT, and Revvo especially for the massive juggling acts they do on a routine basis. I'd love to do more, but can't find the time to make it happen.[/QUOTE]Its not too hard to juggle when you are single compared to what you have to deal with. And BTW. Your SO is not going to forget that condom incident for years. So don't get complacent.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1881680]Its not too hard to juggle when you are single compared to what you have to deal with. And BTW. Your SO is not going to forget that condom incident for years. So don't get complacent.[/QUOTE]At this point, the most you can hope for is silence. Twenty years ago my SO found a pair of size zero ladies panties in my dirty travel clothes. I claimed ignorance, but the subject came up for years. It's never really forgotten, just ignored.