Have you checked out TER reviews?
[QUOTE=RattleHead;3595203]Recently, I started checking out the websites for some of Chicago's better agencies. I had never used an agency before, until last fall. I gave XO Companions a try (in Milwaukee), and I've had a couple of good experiences with them. Milwaukee, however, doesn't get much attention from them anymore. Disappointed by this, I started reading the Chicago forum to see what agencies might be worth checking out. One of them that got my interest is Angelli's Angels. I read through the forum for reviews and comments on Angelli's. I'm curious about the ladies that have "PSE" sessions. Is there anyone here that's done a PSE session with one of Angelli's Angels, that could tell me what the difference is between their GFE session and the PSE? I've searched through the forum looking for info, but I haven't found any. I've never tried a PSE session with anyone. I would TOFTT to check it out, but that 60 minute rate is a bit high. XO is already high enough, but I know what I get from their ladies. Anyway, any insight on this would be appreciated. You can PM, if you prefer.[/QUOTE]If not, you should try to check out the juicy details about providers to discern what PSE means for different providers.
Depending on providers' own view, PSE can range from just doing sex acts in a more sloppy / nasty way, to allowing CIM / COF, to offering Greek, to actually enjoying sex work and will try anything with you (BBFS is likely excluded).
PSE for another Chicago agency Chicago Elite Companions is a code word for anal sex. Their use is very consistent, for those who offer, you don't have to ask, they will spread their butt and ask you if you want to screw their ass. Or when you ask, they will lube up and say welcome in. This is from my own experience and most TER reviews of their PSE girls.
For Angelis, sadly, it was sort of YMMV. Same as other agencies that include PSE in their service and ads. Some will not even allow CIM/COF, which is less than GFE and beyond the YMMV range of PSE if you ask me. Also, since this is not something you will get a straight answer even if you ask the agency, so the best way to figure out what the PSE provider will actually provide and allow is to read their reviews.
By the way, CEC and Angelis are friendly with each other while they work together to fend off other agencies. But still, their advertising and management style are very different. Because of the high variation, I don't think it's worth paying the PSE upcharge for Anglelis girls. May be better to meet the one you really like and ask her what her PSE will offer for you to plan on the next meeting.
Elite Secrets have a more affordable rates with European providers of older age. But some of them will offer anal sex without upcharge and they hardly advertise as PSE. So, the definition really depends.
If you are really curious about PSE
[QUOTE=RattleHead;3596167]Thanks for the information. I probably should have looked at TER. I wasn't sure how much info would available for a non-member of the site. I figured I'd have better luck if I dug through the USG forum.
I'd never really gave PSE much thought until recently, when I found the website for Explicit Chicago. That piqued my curiosity. I think I'll stick with GFE girls, and save a little money.[/QUOTE]You should check out Hollyberryxxx, mostly hosting incall in west burbs like Oakbrook, Downers Grove etc. $350/hr or (or $400, not sure if she changed her pricing). It's $50 or $100 cheaper than the PSE girls from CEC, albeit Holly is 10-15 years older.
However, Holly's service style is the true / authentic PSE as far as the sex act goes. I'm NOT arguing about whether producing amateur porn should be counted as porn stars like those casted in videos or films by major labels or sites. Holly will lead or let you do whatever you see in any hardcore porn.
Explicit Chicago did have real porn starts in their line-up, none of them are a-listers, some are up-and-coming and were featured in mostly the stuff of barely legal teen genre. But their advertising or PSE info is probably just an advertising. Available reviews mostly indicated typical GFE encounters. It's possible some players were able to record private collections or even did bbfs, but I just don't have information to confirm one way or the other.
In case you haven't read this yet
[QUOTE=RattleHead;3596675]For Explicit Chicago, I saw on Natalia's profile that she required a recent STD check. That, to me, implied that her PSE was BBFS. Seeing that some of their ladies did video sessions, also made me think that they were doing BBFS (with STD tested clients). Like you, I couldn't find any information that proved that to be true. All I could find was the GFE reviews. That's why I was curious if there was anyone on the forum that experienced it, but refrained from posting the experience. I'll have to check out Hollyberryxxx. I never heard of her. Thank you![/QUOTE]Under BP report thread: [URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?7597-BackPage-Advertiser-Reviews&p=3588557&viewfull=1#post3588557[/URL].
Natalia from Explicit is Tori at ChicagoCoverGirls. If you are boobs man, she seems a good option.
If explicit was run more professionally
[QUOTE=Mrlows;3597153]Well, I could attest that BBFS was available at some point with explicit. I had a nice experience with CChanelle before she went independent (she started with explicit) although it may have been a YMMV situation, BBFS was in fact available.
I've seen Holly Berry in the past and the experience is by far the closest to a hardcore porn scene. Truly remarkable, I could only imagine a BBFS with her (hhmm. Maybe I should ask![/QUOTE]
Then it would be really nice that we can be sure to get what we are willing to pay for, instead of being YMMV. I couldn't care less about BBFS but I love the idea of being able to take pics and videos for private collection. BBFS is too much risk for me.
Those who had a chance to stick into Alicia Coxxx via Explicit should feel lucky that you had a chance to fock her for $300 per hour, even though her service may be just so-so. Now she is listed under the famous TLC, The Luxury Companions, her ego would become 5 X bigger and would probably be asking $1 K or more as if she is an a-lister.
Check out BP report section though
[QUOTE=BrutusB74;3599119]Thanks for backing me up CP. This business is hard on both sides with trust being thrown out the window so easily.
You're a stand up guy in my book.[/QUOTE]No problem, I haven't met her, only researched her and can only back up based on what I have learned. But seems like someone got a bad experience from her.
What should a foreigner do?
Hello Good people of Gotham. I have a question about the verification process that almost everyone applies here. I am traveling to Chicago this weekend and was hoping to sample some delights on offer. But this verification thing has thrown me off (completely alien this process to me).
I am from the UK and the most prominent site used there is [URL]adultwork.com[/URL] where I have a lot of complementory feedback from providers. An alternative is providers ask for your phone number / hotel room number and name to verify if you are who you claim to be. Unfortunately it does seem to count here. How should I go about his?
The agencies I am considering to use, based on the feedback on here.
CEC, EEC, CCG, 2 K presents (I am a MILF man and like the look of Julia there) and Sheri if she responds to my email.
Appreciate your feedback.
Providers' past is not necessarily indicative of how she is girlfriending now
[QUOTE=BrutusB74;3599275]Agreed. We all have had YMMV experiences or even no connection with a provider that others seem to have ATF status, it still is a role of the dice. IMO, the guys who have a bad experience want to tell the world how horrible someone was because they didn't get exactly what one guy got (even though we all know some reviews are exagerrated).
That's why I take all reviews with a grain of salt.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mrlows;3599294]She used to go by Jessa and as I said she started with explicit right before she was the Angellis and it was after being with these two agencies that she went independent.
Here is the old explicit BP ad:
[URL]http://420.com.chicago.hoxnif.com/post/20583492/[/URL]
I reported my session on the BBFS thread (post# 356) back in March.[/QUOTE]This is the perfect example of how sharing can help us connect the dots to have intel of great values for everyone! Doing our own research and sharing is the key.
I personally would take my own findings and what the girls say a grain of salt because if I don't look at the right place, I'd miss something. Seems like Mrlows did have solid info and personal experience to back up his post. I can find all her ads in March 2017 from [URL]liveescortreviews.com[/URL]. Of all the jessa posts we can easily find, there is at least one ad using explicit's 773 number. [URL]http://liveescortreviews.com/ad/chicago/773-699-4750/1/2134332[/URL].
For me, all these means that she was trying to get into the biz by working with agency and listing independently. As she learns more about how girlfriending biz works, she tries to move up the food chain by creating nice personal website and avoiding BP etc.
The bottom line is, knowing more about CChanelle is not to pry into her real life, but to have information that helps people to decide whether they want to meet her and how they want to account for any risks in this hobby. Knowing her used to offer BBFS or knowing who she used to work with doesn't mean that we can assume she is now still doing her girlfriending service like how she did in the past.
The intel is helpful for people to discern the risks and how they want to mitigate the risks should they want to meet her. Likewise, it's her own choice in terms of how she does her sexwork and how much risks she was / is willing to take. Maybe she wants to bury this to avoid unwanted client base, but it is not a realistic thought. Folks likes BBFS would still want to ask about it regardless. That's their preference and choice too.
@BrutusB74, if she continue to treat you well, I don't see how her past as Jessa would change your relationship, unless you feel like providers allowing BBFS may exceed your acceptable level of risks. Any provider can be any hobbyist's ATF sweetheart and treat somebody else in a trashy, bitchy, and bitter way at the same time.
For other readers, I hope you find these information helpful for you to decide if you want meet her.
Email and then use telegram
[QUOTE=RattleHead;3603472]I've been wanting to try one of the Chicago agencies, and I've tried (twice) to get verified by CEC. I really want to meet Milena. For some reason, however, I haven't been able to get verified. Are they a hard agency to verified with? I'm really disappointed. I have a few days off of work, and wanted to take advantage of the free time I have. It was a great opportunity to go down to Chicago and try one of these well reviewed agencies. I don't want to email them and harass them. I don't think that would help my cause. I guess maybe I'll just have to give up on them and try someone else.[/QUOTE]CEC is responsive on the Telegram texting app. If you emailed them already, you can go on telegram and text them to follow up. Even if they ask from pics, you can send a self-destructive one and you would even receive a warning if the receiver taking a screen grab of the image. You should be fine with screening on Telegram. They didn't ask me for pics when I followed up on Telegram since I am verified over email, and the booking via telegram is just easy.