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[QUOTE=Cesar Romero;1356105]How many people show up for this one, last one I saw video for looked like around thirty people. Just curious how much actual traction this issue is getting.[/QUOTE]I read on the letters to the editor the rally is for the Wed Jan 11 meeting. I doubt they will have many people. Check out tribtodaydotcom today.
Happy Mongering
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;1356304]MVOC rally on Tuesday and Fantacy on Thursday. What more can a vampire want?[/QUOTE]I will be passing through Falls Church on Wednesday, do you think Ada would mind if I picked her up and delivered her.
I haven't posted here in a while. Made a trip to the Hot Sun Spa today, got there about 11:40 AM, it looked like only one "customer" car in the lot. Asked the older Mamasan with glasses to see Meme, she said she was busy so I took the next one up who was Jay. WOW, what a sweetheart, pleasant, happy, funny, playful. Meme has been reported to stick her boobs in your face at random, well Jay kept sticking her tongue in my mouth whenever she felt like it, great kisser. Fanatastic time in the shower, in the sauna, and back in the room.
As we we were leaving the sauna going back to the room another girl walked near by, Jay said that's Meme. Huh, I thought she was busy. I think that older Mamasan with the glasses likes to control the rotation. I've had the same thing happen to me before when they were in the old place and also in the new place. Jay said things were kind of slow right now.
Two cars in the lot when I was leaving after a little over an hour. All in all a great time at the Sun and I got my third stamp on my membership card.
Be careful in the section that's 45 Mph if you take 422 East to Warren. On my trip today the road was pretty empty and wide open. I was cruising along just following another car. I glanced down and saw that I was going 65 so I slowed down some. The car in front just kept going and eventually I caught up with some slower traffic where it changed to 2 lanes. I pulled around a really slow moving car and right in front of me was the car who I was following now going real slow with a Highway Patrol car right on his bumper. He put on the flashers and pulled him over as I went by. It might be a good idea to put on the cruise control if you have it in that area which is what I did after passing them. There's an Ohio Highway Patrol station just outside of Warren on 422 and they probably didn't have anything else to do today. I've traveled that road many, many times and I've never seen the OHP out. Whew, that could have been a very costly trip to Waren for me today.
[QUOTE=Cesar Romero;1356105]How many people show up for this one, last one I saw video for looked like around thirty people. Just curious how much actual traction this issue is getting.[/QUOTE]According to the story on tribtodaydotcom they had about 60 people. It sounds like they will get what they want at the January 25 meeting. This is the MVOC'S first step with the goal of closing all the spas their ultimate goal.
Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Mickey7;1356791]Be careful in the section that's 45 Mph if you take 422 East to Warren. On my trip today the road was pretty empty and wide open. I was cruising along just following another car. I glanced down and saw that I was going 65 so I slowed down some. The car in front just kept going and eventually I caught up with some slower traffic where it changed to 2 lanes. I pulled around a really slow moving car and right in front of me was the car who I was following now going real slow with a Highway Patrol car right on his bumper. He put on the flashers and pulled him over as I went by. It might be a good idea to put on the cruise control if you have it in that area which is what I did after passing them. There's an Ohio Highway Patrol station just outside of Warren on 422 and they probably didn't have anything else to do today. I've traveled that road many, many times and I've never seen the OHP out. Whew, that could have been a very costly trip to Waren for me today.[/QUOTE]The cops will sit at that BP station as you come off Rt. 5 about a half-mile or so down the road. OHP patrols this part regularly, and there is also a prison close by. I often find myself slowing down at just the right time as I realize I have entered that 45mph zone coming off the 60 or 65mph highway. Although they aren't going to harass you about where you are going, they will definitely not hesitate writing you a speeding ticket! That dead poor town can use any revenue they get, no matter how they get it! This is also why the AMP's won't get shut down. Too much tax revenue.
Councilmen pledge to fight massage parlors in the city.
January 11, 2012.
By RAYMOND L. SMITH, Tribune Chronicle | TribToday. Com.
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WARREN. Supporters of legislation that would place stricter requirements on area massage parlors located in the city convinced five of the city's council members to sign a pledge to pass it when it goes before council on Jan. 25.
"Six of Warren's 10 massage parlors are within a 2. 1-mile radius of my church, Emmanuel Lutheran," Jean Waris said."How was this allowed to happen?"
Waris and other members of the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative have been working with city officials to find ways to stop what they believe to be illegal acts happening in the massage parlors. The group held a Vote to Fight Sex Trafficking rally Tuesday night at the Trumbull County YWCA.
The council members who signed the pledge included its sponsor, Cheryl Saffold, and John Brown, Eddie Colbert, Greg Bartholomew and Jim Valesky. Mayor Doug Franklin also signed the pledge to support the legislation.
Supporters of the proposed legislation suggest its passage and enforcement will allow enforcement and city officials to control activities in the spas and eventually to work to have them closed down.
"Are you aware that Trumbull County has 12 'recreational' massage parlors. 10 of which are within the city limits of Warren? ' Isabel Seavey said.
"As far as we can tell from sex tourism websites, there are 24 massage parlors in the entire state," she said."That means Trumbull county has half of all the spas in Ohio."
Investigators have said repeatedly in the last two years that they have found no evidence of human trafficking or prostitution at the businesses within the city. Seavey admitted that her group does not know that such activities are happening there, but said warning signs exist: They are open from 9 am To 3 am Weekdays and 24 hours on the weekends; they do not allow women to enter; and they advertise in a sexually suggestive nature, she said.
Representatives of the massage parlor businesses did not attend the meeting nor were reached for comment afterward.
Saffold told the audience of about 60 people that three lawyers brought to the city by the Mahoning Valley Organizing Collaborative said the legislation limiting such businesses is both constitutional and will withstand any legal challenge in the courts.
"I would like to say this legislation is one of the most important this city has seen," Saffold said.
She suggested having the high number of parlors in the city creates an atmosphere that will chase away business.
"I'm embarrassed that Warren, Ohio, is known as the massage parlor capital of Ohio," she said.
Kendra Perino of Warren attended the rally."I think their presence hurts the image of our city," she said."I have grandchildren in the area and I worry about them and other young people.
Dorie Harris of Niles said she is pleased that Warren is joining her city in trying to close down area parlors.
"Something needs to be done," Harris said.
Warren resident Georgia Maronsis said he does not like the direction the city has taken in recent years with the proliferation of massage parlors.
"It is hard for me to believe this is the legacy we are leaving for our children," she said.
A faith-based rally in support of the legislation is scheduled to be held at 2 pm Jan 22 in a parking lot across from the Sunrise Inn, near a downtown massage parlor.
"We are asking for representatives from every church in the city to attend the rally," Saffold said."We want to send a message to the owners of these massage parlors."
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Well looks like a law of some type may get passed. I still doubt any of the major Spas, Sun, Tokyo, Fuji and Fantasy will close. They will figure out how to get around it. Also likely depends on exactly what is passed and how strictly it is enforced. Going to be interesting to watch, that if for sure. Thanks for the update.
Ok I am tired of all the talk about the spa laws untill it comes up for a vote lets table this talk and get back to talking about providers. Any word on the new girl at sun? I know Kelly will be back at fantasy but don't plan on seeing her, the King has cashed in his royal jewels to take up all her time.
[QUOTE=Cesar Romero;1357603]Well looks like a law of some type may get passed. I still doubt any of the major Spas, Sun, Tokyo, Fuji and Fantasy will close. They will figure out how to get around it. Also likely depends on exactly what is passed and how strictly it is enforced. Going to be interesting to watch, that if for sure. Thanks for the update.[/QUOTE]Cesar is right, it all hinges on the ability to enforce any new laws. Both the city and LE know they don't have the resources to enforce any new laws, they struggle just to keep the streets safe. That is why you don't see them warming-up to this movement; they pretty much know it is a waste of time. The MVOC and the politicians will get some law passed, pound their chests, and move on. The SPA's will figure out how to operate within the new rules, and move on as well. Jeep56 will come around to the board every month or so warning everyone that a National Guard combat brigade is on standby just outside of town waiting for orders to shut down the spa's, but it never happens.
When it is all over, things will continue as always.
[QUOTE=Peter North 9; 1357667]Cesar is right, it all hinges on the ability to enforce any new laws. Both the city and LE know they don't have the resources to enforce any new laws, they struggle just to keep the streets safe. That is why you don't see them warming-up to this movement; they pretty much know it is a waste of time. The MVOC and the politicians will get some law passed, pound their chests, and move on. The SPA's will figure out how to operate within the new rules, and move on as well. Jeep56 will come around to the board every month or so warning everyone that a National Guard combat brigade is on standby just outside of town waiting for orders to shut down the spa's, but it never happens.
When it is all over, things will continue as always.[/QUOTE]I was just wondering about Jeep, we haven't heard the voice of doom in awhile.
[QUOTE=KingIpinni;1356601]I will be passing through Falls Church on Wednesday, do you think Ada would mind if I picked her up and delivered her.[/QUOTE]Because she's already here. Just spent a spectacular evening with Miss Kelly. She has a new piercing and looked great in her braided beaded top and tiny black skirt. I don't know guys but the best has just gotten better. She is truly a delight to be with.
They are worried about the image of Warren, particularly how it's effected by the existence of the AMP's? That is rich. Have you (any of you) ever driven down some side streets or back roads in Warren on your way to a spa? Boarded up houses EVERYWHERE, and the ones that aren't boarded up are so run down and dilapidated it looks like nobody could live there anyway. I almost drove into a pothole last year that would have absolutely destroyed my car had I not seen it. No exaggeration, this pothole could have swallowed up a small vehicle, and they want to turn away more tax dollars, or ANY revenue for that matter? Warren is like the asshole of Ohio, to say the least. I hardly think the massage spas are damaging any sort of image or reputation they think they have. If that is the case, you better go after the Summit St. Bookstore too. Guys go in there to the video booths and get sucked off. I'm sure there is a church within fifteen miles of there someone can complain about. Churches are so fucking arrogant, they think that any adult-based business is harmful to their plate-passing and money-grubbing ways. Driving by a sign that says "Massage" surely evokes sinful thoughts, and we all know that is no good for your spiritual well-being. HAHAHA. This whole thing is just hilarious. These misplaced priorities are going to accomplish nothing except cutting more money out of the already spent budget the city doesn't have. Enforcement is key here, I have NEVER seen someone pulled over in Warren, because I never seen any Warren police cars anywhere but at the police station. They can't pay officers, how are they going to pay teams of officers to raid AMP's? Not to mention, I would bet my net worth half the cops in Warren go to these places anyway. Ever seen all the FOP stickers on the doors of an AMP? Of course they are cop friendly, cops probably get special treatment even. So yeah, I doubt the officials are eager to move forward with this, its the 2% of the "christian" right wing retard population that thinks they are actually accomplishing something here. Whatever, I'm going to fill up this last freebie card for Sun, and then I'm done for a while. The whole scene is getting sort of diluted with the same old, same old.
[QUOTE=Cesar Romero;1357603]Well looks like a law of some type may get passed. I still doubt any of the major Spas, Sun, Tokyo, Fuji and Fantasy will close. They will figure out how to get around it. Also likely depends on exactly what is passed and how strictly it is enforced. Going to be interesting to watch, that if for sure. Thanks for the update.[/QUOTE]Just look at it this way. The new laws will equal more sleep for all the providers. Sun will be more harried. The one thing that MVOC and everyone else involved doesn't realize that Fantacy will give massages to women. If they really want to check out if there's human trafficking going on then why don't they just make an appointment and actually meet some of the people there? They state in the article that they really don't know "but there are signs". See they're just pulling from thin air just like they're supposedly doing it for the children. Yeah right. And they say these spas are driving out business from Warren. Oh, yeah right again. What drives out the business is the political party that's in power. Look at the recent oil situation that's going on with the so called earthquake supposedly being caused by it. I'm surprised they didn't lump that in with the spas supposedly causing that too. Or maybe it was all the orgasm that were happening at once. Never know.
[QUOTE=Bobo2;1357726]I was just wondering about Jeep, we haven't heard the voice of doom in awhile.[/QUOTE]Shhhh. Don't wake him up!
[QUOTE=Bobo2;1357726]I was just wondering about Jeep, we haven't heard the voice of doom in awhile.[/QUOTE]Unfortuneately, he was involved in a car crash with Vampireweekend never to be heard from again. After they stumbled out of their vehicles they gave eachother a big hug and some sort of spark happened. They were seen hand in hand going to the local hotel / motel Holiday Inn with loud music blaring from their room. Cheers!
I made a stop at Fantacy today, got there around 9:30 am, meet Ada at the door, they had 3 girls there right now Kelly, Kim, Amada.
I asked for Kelly. 5 minute later Kelly walked in and took me to the shower.
She's young, beauty and sweet.
I Spent pretty much the whole time having a great time with Kelly.
Very happy with the overall service. Excellent experience.
[QUOTE=Spa Lunker; 1357970]They are worried about the image of Warren, particularly how it's effected by the existence of the AMP's? That is rich. Have you (any of you) ever driven down some side streets or back roads in Warren on your way to a spa? Boarded up houses EVERYWHERE, and the ones that aren't boarded up are so run down and dilapidated it looks like nobody could live there anyway. I almost drove into a pothole last year that would have absolutely destroyed my car had I not seen it. No exaggeration, this pothole could have swallowed up a small vehicle, and they want to turn away more tax dollars, or ANY revenue for that matter? Warren is like the asshole of Ohio, to say the least. I hardly think the massage spas are damaging any sort of image or reputation they think they have. If that is the case, you better go after the Summit St. Bookstore too. Guys go in there to the video booths and get sucked off. I'm sure there is a church within fifteen miles of there someone can complain about. Churches are so fucking arrogant, they think that any adult-based business is harmful to their plate-passing and money-grubbing ways. Driving by a sign that says "Massage" surely evokes sinful thoughts, and we all know that is no good for your spiritual well-being. HAHAHA. This whole thing is just hilarious. These misplaced priorities are going to accomplish nothing except cutting more money out of the already spent budget the city doesn't have.
Enforcement is key here, I have NEVER seen someone pulled over in Warren, because I never seen any Warren police cars anywhere but at the police station. They can't pay officers, how are they going to pay teams of officers to raid AMP's? Not to mention, I would bet my net worth half the cops in Warren go to these places anyway. Ever seen all the FOP stickers on the doors of an AMP? Of course they are cop friendly, cops probably get special treatment even. So yeah, I doubt the officials are eager to move forward with this, its the 2% of the "christian" right wing retard population that thinks they are actually accomplishing something here. Whatever, I'm going to fill up this last freebie card for Sun, and then I'm done for a while. The whole scene is getting sort of diluted with the same old, same old.[/QUOTE]I will give you props on this post, this has one of the most truthful and funniest posts I have read in a long time."ASSHOLE" of Ohio, that's a classic.
[QUOTE=KingIpinni;1358794]I will give you props on this post, this has one of the most truthful and funniest posts I have read in a long time."ASSHOLE" of Ohio, that's a classic.[/QUOTE]The churches do not like the competition for the money that the AMP`s may present!
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;1357918]Because she's already here. Just spent a spectacular evening with Miss Kelly. She has a new piercing and looked great in her braided beaded top and tiny black skirt. I don't know guys but the best has just gotten better. She is truly a delight to be with.[/QUOTE]I thought you were dead! $%
[QUOTE=KingIpinni;1358794]I will give you props on this post, this has one of the most truthful and funniest posts I have read in a long time."ASSHOLE" of Ohio, that's a classic.[/QUOTE]Every once in a while you do run into a great post rather than the normal misspelled bullshit. This is one of my all time favorites posted on the Cleveland escort board, read the last line it sounds like a country song.
"Outstanding warrant? I wouldn't be suprised, because "discretion" is not in her behavioral vocabulary, if my dream is any indication: Meeting in the parking lot of a cheap, cheap, cheap East C-town motel, facing the main drag, asking me to hand over the cash right there, so she could get the room.
Well, lacking discretion myself, at that moment, I gave her the envelope and hung out at the sidewalk, waiting, for LE to roll in. Fortunately, in that dream it all worked out, banging that slighly hairy slit in missionary, while she stared at the ceiling through coke-bottle glasses, a far-away smile on her face."
I hate Fantasy Spa because I hate to wait. I visit Warren about once a month and partake in 2-3 spas each visit. I get hard crossing the city limits of Warren. A session at Fantasy can take up to 2 hours and I hate to wait.
I love Fantasy because their business model makes sense. A high quality massage followed by GFE sex. They seem to stick with this model and train the girls pretty well.
Last week I had Kelly. She left me in the room for over 15 minutes. No other customers and the room was cold as hell. TS at Fantasy is no big deal and its been mechanical with everybody I've ever seen there. Their sauna can be a gas chamber if they "fresh" spray it before you get in. They close and open the sauna curtain like magicians. Waiting one day for a rabbit to come out.
After the sauna, Kelley sends me back to the room for another 15 wait. The massage was excellent and too long. I know the good part is coming and Kelly says,"I'm going to take a shower and come back." After another 15 minute wait. The bodysoaping-magician-masseuse turns into a sex starved vixen, then a Cum covered face girl tending to the chore of getting me dressed and out the door.
Fantasy isn't my favorite spa, but it's in my top 5.
I love and hate Fantasy Spa.
[QUOTE=MoonDoggie;1359143]I thought you were dead! $%[/QUOTE]So did I but a couple members on here just kept digging me up. Especially when they started posting as me on the Tribtoday and the Vindy. I guess you just can't let go of a good thing. But don't worry, I'm only around until Kelly goes back home. Speaking of which I had another great session with her on Friday the 13th. Nothing bad happened except my luck did run out and this time I was left writhing in ecstasy on the massage table."I won" she said with glee and then she looked at me and smiled."You're being so selfish. You didn't wait for me." Hell, how could I wait when she's wearing this skimpy, tight fitting white and gold lame dress that was draped in a way that the front side of the dress looked like the back side revealing a spangled, gold beaded bra underneath. She's got this beaded theme going on. So she turned the tables on me this time and I really did die a thousand deaths in that moment or maybe my luck just ran out since it was Friday the 13th. Don't let this feline cross your path because you don't know what you find yourself in for.
[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;1359451]So did I but a couple members on here just kept digging me up. Especially when they started posting as me on the Tribtoday and the Vindy. I guess you just can't let go of a good thing. But don't worry, I'm only around until Kelly goes back home. Speaking of which I had another great session with her on Friday the 13th. Nothing bad happened except my luck did run out and this time I was left writhing in ecstasy on the massage table."I won" she said with glee and then she looked at me and smiled."You're being so selfish. You didn't wait for me." Hell, how could I wait when she's wearing this skimpy, tight fitting white and gold lame dress that was draped in a way that the front side of the dress looked like the back side revealing a spangled, gold beaded bra underneath. She's got this beaded theme going on. So she turned the tables on me this time and I really did die a thousand deaths in that moment or maybe my luck just ran out since it was Friday the 13th. Don't let this feline cross your path because you don't know what you find yourself in for.[/QUOTE]Where you doing her while she was still clothed? If you havnt hit her bare back, I highly reccomend it! Though she was my one time AMP BB experience and I had some kind of crazy trust in her, I don't think I would take that path again. After the first round I went back the following day and tried to complete the task covered. That didn't work so well and I had to peel down and fill her up! After that, the following 5 or 6 times we just went at it with no thought! I got a little wore out on all the messages and calls she was sending me and had little to no interest in her. That is when I got the offer for the afternoon at the airport hotel. What can I say "Player", it was on like donkey kong! When I dropped her at the gate I was satisfied that I would never hit her semi-fine ass again. All I can say is she must be desperate after she told me how scared of the owners she was and how they threatened and controlled the girls. Or is it quite possible Ada used her tactics to get her back to Warren?
Who Knows?
Happy Mongering
As most know I am not a Fantasy Fan!
Why?
As I may have been sold a bill of goods, here's why!
Facts: (from Kelly)
1) The girls are brought in under false pretenses.
2) After they have personal info on the girls they are threatened that if they leave, there families will be made aware of what type of business they are involved in.
3) The girls receive a very small percentage of the tip they earn. (if any)
4) They are not allowed contact with the outside world.
5) They have no choice on foods they get while at the spa.
6) They are not allowed out of the spa.
7) They are only allowed to be picked up and dropped off by the owner to and from the airport.
8) Threats are made to force return to spa.
I will not bore you with the rest of the details!
This is all first hand info and is my reason for not wanting to see this spa succeed in business and I believe
That this is why this spa is so heavily looked at. As long as I have been in the spa circuit I have meet alot of great ladies and have never heard this stuff anywhere else.
Don't support this spa!
[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1359752]Where you doing her while she was still clothed? If you havnt hit her bare back, I highly reccomend it! Though she was my one time AMP BB experience and I had some kind of crazy trust in her, I don't think I would take that path again. After the first round I went back the following day and tried to complete the task covered. That didn't work so well and I had to peel down and fill her up! After that, the following 5 or 6 times we just went at it with no thought! I got a little wore out on all the messages and calls she was sending me and had little to no interest in her. That is when I got the offer for the afternoon at the airport hotel. What can I say "Player", it was on like donkey kong! When I dropped her at the gate I was satisfied that I would never hit her semi-fine ass again. All I can say is she must be desperate after she told me how scared of the owners she was and how they threatened and controlled the girls. Or is it quite possible Ada used her tactics to get her back to Warren?
Who Knows?
Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]All I can say Ipinni is that you must have gotten served. What did you expect after all the bs posts you've made about Ada, Kelly, and Fantacy. And here again you're posting your hate and disrespect under the guise of being righteous. What are you MVOC now? You are way off my friend, way off. Believe me, I would have posted something if any of these things you've said were true or if I've seen any, any evidence of what you posted. You've only posted this nonsense because you probably got your ass kicked and served when you went over to Fantacy this weekend to see Kelly. Again, all your bs posts have finally caught up with you. And to take it out on Kelly and use her to make these posts is just totally hateful and disrespectful. Not only have you tried to scare her out of town now you're trying to get her fired by using her to post your nonsense.
And your second post about Fantacy sounds more along the line of how Sun operates. I've seen and heard a lot of evidence along those lines when I use to patronized there. Again Ipinni, I feel sorry for you but you did have it coming to you my friend.
[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1359800]As most know I am not a Fantasy Fan!
Why?
As I may have been sold a bill of goods, here's why!
Facts: (from Kelly)
1) The girls are brought in under false pretenses.
2) After they have personal info on the girls they are threatened that if they leave, there families will be made aware of what type of business they are involved in.
3) The girls receive a very small percentage of the tip they earn. (if any)
4) They are not allowed contact with the outside world.
5) They have no choice on foods they get while at the spa.
6) They are not allowed out of the spa.
7) They are only allowed to be picked up and dropped off by the owner to and from the airport.
8) Threats are made to force return to spa.
I will not bore you with the rest of the details!
This is all first hand info and is my reason for not wanting to see this spa succeed in business and I believe
That this is why this spa is so heavily looked at. As long as I have been in the spa circuit I have meet alot of great ladies and have never heard this stuff anywhere else.
Don't support this spa![/QUOTE]King, not going to judge what you posted here. However, I will judge your timing. Why post this while this girl is in town?
[QUOTE=Peter North 9;1360229]King, not going to judge what you posted here. However, I will judge your timing. Why post this while this girl is in town?[/QUOTE]I posted for no other reason than to put the info out to the community of fellow mongerers! I was in complete shock that she came to Warren after the last trip! I am telling you guys, there is some bad shit going on here! If someone could not honestly say that this is not forced by the owners and a complete act of enslavement I would completely disagree! This is not a BS post. If you knew for fact that the info I posted was true and correct, would you support this business? NO. I am 100% right on this! Guys on the other board say this is mean, no its putting facts where they belong, in front of the people that can make a difference. Do the right thing guys and boycott this spa! Make them accountable for there actions. If this goes where I believe it is going to, it will have an affect on the spas that are normally operated with ladies that want to be there. There is no agenda or benefit for me putting this info out to you guys! Do what's right!
[QUOTE=Peter North 9;1360229]King, not going to judge what you posted here. However, I will judge your timing. Why post this while this girl is in town?[/QUOTE]If this is the case and you feel so strongly about it you should have taken Kelly to the police. Since you did not and you just happend to post this, I call BULSHIT.
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[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1359800]As most know I am not a Fantasy Fan!
Why?
As I may have been sold a bill of goods, here's why!
Facts: (from Kelly)
1) The girls are brought in under false pretenses.
2) After they have personal info on the girls they are threatened that if they leave, there families will be made aware of what type of business they are involved in.
3) The girls receive a very small percentage of the tip they earn. (if any)
4) They are not allowed contact with the outside world.
5) They have no choice on foods they get while at the spa.
6) They are not allowed out of the spa.
7) They are only allowed to be picked up and dropped off by the owner to and from the airport.
8) Threats are made to force return to spa.
I will not bore you with the rest of the details!
This is all first hand info and is my reason for not wanting to see this spa succeed in business and I believe
That this is why this spa is so heavily looked at. As long as I have been in the spa circuit I have meet alot of great ladies and have never heard this stuff anywhere else.
Don't support this spa![/QUOTE]This is the standard line you hear from anyone with an agenda against [Fill in the Blank]. They talk about the spas, massage parlors and strip clubs as places of enslavement where one cannot escape. They just had on TV awhile ago the stories of the girls from the Cheetah Club down in Hallandale, Fl. About how they were enslaved. The city shut the club down and after investigation it was learned that all of the stories were false. Cheetah Club sued the city. The city had to allow the club to reopen simply saying that the city cannot afford to pay the judgments coming down the pike. I am surprised that they did not in some way dangle danger to children as another reason.
[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1359800]As most know I am not a Fantasy Fan!
Why?
As I may have been sold a bill of goods, here's why!
Facts: (from Kelly)
1) The girls are brought in under false pretenses.
2) After they have personal info on the girls they are threatened that if they leave, there families will be made aware of what type of business they are involved in.
3) The girls receive a very small percentage of the tip they earn. (if any)
4) They are not allowed contact with the outside world.
5) They have no choice on foods they get while at the spa.
6) They are not allowed out of the spa.
7) They are only allowed to be picked up and dropped off by the owner to and from the airport.
8) Threats are made to force return to spa.
I will not bore you with the rest of the details!
This is all first hand info and is my reason for not wanting to see this spa succeed in business and I believe
That this is why this spa is so heavily looked at. As long as I have been in the spa circuit I have meet alot of great ladies and have never heard this stuff anywhere else.
Don't support this spa![/QUOTE]I'm no big fan of Fantacy, but this smells fishy. If you have all the "proof" you say you do on here and the AMP site, why don't you take it to the police? If your so concerned about this girl's welfare, why are you telling a bunch of whoremongers to boycott the spa and not going to the authorities? If you have evidence of a such a heinous crime that isn't self-incriminating, aren't you morally if not legally responsible to report it? You also had no problem commenting on the "ASSHOLE of Ohio" post, yukking it up when this grave matter was on your mind.
Your accusing Fantacy Spa of human trafficking and claim to have proof and all you do is report it to a escort forum? If this is true, then your just as guilty as Fantacy and equally reprehensible.
I cannot speak to what occurs at Fantasy as I have never been there. I can discuss Sun as I have been there a few times and have a bit of knowledge. Someone said the reported abuses occurred at Sun. I can speak to a few of those in my experience:
1. Food. The girls eat whatever they want, Mama Sok and Cho are constantly cooking and providing for the girls. I know one of the girls is a vegetarian and her needs are also met. I have been there many times when take out from local restaurants was on the table and we all enjoyed, so I don't believe they are limited on what to eat. BTW they like thin crust veggie pizza, breadsticks and pan supreme.
2. Contact. All of the girls I have spent time with at Sun appear to have their own cell phone, shoot one has a brand new Iphone as I helped her download some apps for it. Ruby, Marie and Jay were / are constantly texting while hanging out in the kitchen. I spent time showing two of the girls and Sammy how to use Google Translate to translate text messages. This does not sound like a policy that would work if the girls we not allowed to contact people outside the spa. Now Sammy does get upset if the girls start collecting phone numbers and trying to contact customers outside of the Spa as this has caused some guys to get confused and get hurt feelings and lost her some customers.
3. Force. I have had some contact with a provider outside of Sun after they no longer work there and this was never brought up. The girls appear to be quite aware of the circumstances of their employment and rotate in and out of the spa for quite a long time.
Now I could be wrong about all this but just thought I would add my limited experiences to this discussion.
Sure is odd someone knows so much about the inner workings of a place they hate so much. Not to mention sticking their nose where it doesn't belong. No I'm not a customer of Fantasy either. Hopefully, Admin will take some action like banning those on this thread that make negative posts and get the thread off track like was previously mentioned awhile back.
Anyone have any reports on the spas to share?
Anyone have any reports on the spas to share?[/QUOTE]Ok I have a small report. The weather gods have kept the snow away and I decided to head to sun for one last strip before the snow. When I got there I asked for my favorit Meme and was told she was busy. Sunny would be happy to get me Marie (yes Marie is back) , I asked about Cookie and was told she was on vacation (sorry guys) I was also offerd Nana, but decided to wait for Meme. I was very glad I did. Not only did I have a great time with Meme but she walked on my back and gave me one of the best massages I have had.
So bad news Cookie is on vacation.
Good news Marie is back for all that have been asking about her (I did see her in passing)
Better news, Meme and Nana are still there
Well I hope her vacation is short so she is back when I get up there again. Would love a Cookie / Nana four hand, followed by some alone time with Meme. Now if all three are there at the same time I will have to bring a bunch more money... Damn I need a second job...
[QUOTE=Bobo2; 1360775]I'm no big fan of Fantacy, but this smells fishy. If you have all the "proof" you say you do on here and the AMP site, why don't you take it to the police? If your so concerned about this girl's welfare, why are you telling a bunch of whoremongers to boycott the spa and not going to the authorities? If you have evidence of a such a heinous crime that isn't self-incriminating, aren't you morally if not legally responsible to report it? You also had no problem commenting on the "ASSHOLE of Ohio" post, yukking it up when this grave matter was on your mind.
Your accusing Fantacy Spa of human trafficking and claim to have proof and all you do is report it to a escort forum? If this is true, then your just as guilty as Fantacy and equally reprehensible.[/QUOTE]Not true. Got one girls number a while back and chatted a bit on text. She was from Cali or something good english. There for like a few monts. Also. Why would girls return from vaca if so bad. Kelly just returned. Sorry bud. Sounds like BS.
I hear they are hiring at the Hot Dog shop. I think if I was in a room with Nana and Cookie at the same time with Meme affter I would need Life support.
Both of these chicks have made so many tours of Sun Spa under different names and looks they probably have retirement benefits coming. I've been reading reports for years, to say they are getting boring would be an understatement. Has anyone been anyplace besides Sun and Fantacy?
Happy Mongering.
[QUOTE=Book Man; 1361531]Both of these chicks have made so many tours of Sun Spa under different names and looks they probably have retirement benefits coming. I've been reading reports for years, to say they are getting boring would be an understatement. Has anyone been anyplace besides Sun and Fantacy?
Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]Like you slightly bored with Sun, Fantacy, Tokyo, Fuji, etc. Yesterday was going to go to Fuji, but there was one car in the lot so that meant they were too busy.
I decided to go to Moon night, will never go again. TS fair, massage mechanical and fast, and sort of long. Enough so that "Yumi" worked up a sweat.
Brought up the tip for FS, paid and instantly regretted it. I don't know what I was thinking this girl was a GIANT, compared to me, and was all covered in sweat (from the massage).
Hairy Bush, fat, she kept rearranging my hands on her breasts like it was my first time. All while being covered, then finally got off me to finish with a HJ
But suddenly HFUMA, motherfucker, I felt like she was hitting me with a hammer. WTF never again I don't know what I was thinking?