Lynne has posted a set of new photos on STG. Does she look that good in person? TIA.
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Lynne has posted a set of new photos on STG. Does she look that good in person? TIA.
[QUOTE=MrSampler;5904577]So recently I've been chatting it up with different providers after service, they would give me discount. They finally told me because I'm one of the good ones. Confused I asked why. They showed me recent messages of the amount of threats they get is ridiculous. A guy threatened to sht her in the head if she doesn't sleep with her.
Another guy (different provider) tried chocking her out because she said it was hot in the car and in the middle of the session he wouldn't turn on the AC so she cracked the door. (I get if you thought she was trying to run) but read between the lines.
Bro there's more.[/QUOTE]I suspect you're talking about Lucky Too, as he has a reputation in the provider circles for violence against them! He is also known for threatening them with bad reviews if they won't do bareback, anal or CIM Etc. And to top it off, he is notoriously cheap!
[QUOTE=DickyBill;5902567]So I this weekend I was doing my shopping seeing if I could strike a deal with one of our ladies. Had one with Georgia but she had an "emergency" come up last minute and we rescheduled for Monday which I had to back out of after getting a for sure deal with someone else that turned out very well. Anyway back to what I started this about, I was getting read to text GiGi, typed her digits in and lo and behold it comes up the original saved number for Sammie. I never did text GiGi just thought it was very strange. Anyway been playing hit and miss with Sam on her new number she'll text me to tell she's available but I'm not hopefully we can synch up soon haven't seem her in over a month and ready for one of her quivering mouth hugs. Also another hit and miss text game has been with Karmen. She ran a deal on her only fans and has some nice videos on there. Plus she'll give you a discount if your a member. Other then that was a quiet weekend.[/QUOTE]Hopefully she gets back to you. We should welcome her back with open arms, its been a long time.
[QUOTE=CohBoy;5905149]Lynne has posted a set of new photos on STG. Does she look that good in person? TIA.[/QUOTE]The actress in all those photos is considerably younger than Lynne is now. Her looks are ok with all the mileage on her.
I suspect its guys with nothing to loose who take advantage of knowing the girls most likely will not do anything about it. I have heard some stories and seen some pretty nasty txt messages from a few that make you want to beat a pricks ass. But its the game. Cost to play. Violence against the women's is not my deal.
[QUOTE=JdCrane20;5905175]I suspect you're talking about Lucky Too, as he has a reputation in the provider circles for violence against them! He is also known for threatening them with bad reviews if they won't do bareback, anal or CIM Etc. And to top it off, he is notoriously cheap![/QUOTE]Have you ever met this girl Melissa- she's really not very petite. She's lies and makes up all kinds of shit! I could post a pic if curious. Just want to help other mongers out.
[QUOTE=LuckyToo;5906061]Have you ever met this girl Melissa- she's really not very petite. She's lies and makes up all kinds of shit! I could post a pic if curious. Just want to help other mongers out.[/QUOTE]If this person is really a chick (provider) like you say, don't you think this post is kind of proving her point? LOL. Just saying dude.
[QUOTE=LuckyToo;5906061]Have you ever met this girl Melissa- she's really not very petite. She's lies and makes up all kinds of shit! I could post a pic if curious. Just want to help other mongers out.[/QUOTE]I'd like to see who she is so I don't fall into it.
Finally got a text back. 220 quoted, what do we tell the god of death? Not Today.
[QUOTE=LuckyToo;5906061]Have you ever met this girl Melissa- she's really not very petite. She's lies and makes up all kinds of shit! I could post a pic if curious. Just want to help other mongers out.[/QUOTE]Nevermind saw her mugshot LOL Lucky your pm box is full.
I'm a decent looking clean showered guy. I give and expect good hygiene. Just saying!
I made the mistake of contacting Sassy for a QV. Wish I had just thrown the donation out the window and stayed home.
Arrived at her location, good directions and easy to find. The place is a filthy dump. Put donation on the counter and only my clothing came off. She started a BBBJ, Mostly hand job and I shit you not, one minute into it she was asking if I was close. I advised her if she could just do a decent job I would return often. I also asked her to not use hands and for her to use her mouth only. I also asked her to undress, my mistake! She looked much better with clothing on.
She went right back to using mostly her hands and continued to ask if I was close and saying over and over that this was only a QV. She said it would be over at the end of 15 minutes if I was done or not! I asked repeatedly for her to stop reminding me and I told her that I would not have an issue with completion. I struggled to keep her mouth full just so she would shut the Fu*$ up! It was definitely the worst date ever!
Don't believe her services offered! It came time to Blow a load in her mouth and of course she gets up and walks away for me left to finish my self. I'm sure I wasn't there 10 minutes, but honestly it was 10 minutes to long.
So, if you want a date with a walking alarm clock that won't shut up, she is your girl.
Yes! I have seen her sister and you can not compare.
[QUOTE=PrettyToes;5907718]I'm a decent looking clean showered guy. I give and expect good hygiene. Just saying!
I made the mistake of contacting Sassy for a QV. Wish I had just thrown the donation out the window and stayed home.
Arrived at her location, good directions and easy to find. The place is a filthy dump. Put donation on the counter and only my clothing came off. She started a BBBJ, Mostly hand job and I shit you not, one minute into it she was asking if I was close. I advised her if she could just do a decent job I would return often. I also asked her to not use hands and for her to use her mouth only. I also asked her to undress, my mistake! She looked much better with clothing on.
She went right back to using mostly her hands and continued to ask if I was close and saying over and over that this was only a QV. She said it would be over at the end of 15 minutes if I was done or not! I asked repeatedly for her to stop reminding me and I told her that I would not have an issue with completion. I struggled to keep her mouth full just so she would shut the Fu*$ up! It was definitely the worst date ever!
Don't believe her services offered! It came time to Blow a load in her mouth and of course she gets up and walks away for me left to finish my self. I'm sure I wasn't there 10 minutes, but honestly it was 10 minutes to long.
So, if you want a date with a walking alarm clock that won't shut up, she is your girl.
Yes! I have seen her sister and you can not compare.[/QUOTE]She has been reviewed but nothing recent. She is exactly as you prescribed. She maybe the worst in both Bradenton / Sarasota combined. I don't think they are really sisters, just close friends for very long time. I know what you went through and now it seems like its her pattern. She definitely doesn't follow directions and yes, she look better with her clothes on. Definitely no Jazzmyn!
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[QUOTE=DickyBill;5907607]Finally got a text back. 220 quoted, what do we tell the god of death? Not Today.[/QUOTE]She post quite a bit but have not seen any recent post of anyone actually seeing her. Perhaps the lack of response and donation level is why?
Last night set one up with a UTR I've known for a while and has always been dependable. 45 minutes after scheduled time still haven't heard anything so I shoot a text that something must have come up with her no problem catch her another time. 10 minutes later text back saying so sorry she was doing something spaced time yada yada. So a little over an hour late she shows up cleaned up looking cute and ready to go, or so I thought. Less then 10 minutes after some pretty good oral while she is stroking the rod she literally falls asleep. Head on my leg dick in her hand. Said she was putting a lot time in the regular job and was burning the candle at both ends. Anyway I let her sleep for a bit hoping to able to resume the fun after a nap but that wasn't happening. Finally woke her up told her we would reschedule she got dressed apologizing told her not to worry about it as we have always had fun before and everyone has a bad day. On her way she went no donations changed hands. It's now close to 1 in morning and of course the blue pill is running as strong as the force in Yoda. What to do? Looked through the ads tried a couple numbers, crickets. Scrolled through the phone and said fuck it, texted Jazzmyn. "up for an outcall"? Not expecting a return but to my surprise she texted me right back. "Ready now"? I said hell yea! "on my way" 20 minutes or so she was there on her bike. We talked for a little and she went to work. Like I said before every time I see her she does something different orally and tonight was no different. No rush as she worked me until I just couldn't hold back anymore. I blew nut that was so intense I thought my boys were going to come out my dick hole! We talked for a little more she actually can be pretty funny when you catch at the right time. Now 3 am what started out as loss turned into a monumental gain. Going to chalk utr as a bad night shit happens. And as always will repeat with Jazz.
[QUOTE=DickyBill;5907607]Finally got a text back. 220 quoted, what do we tell the god of death? Not Today.[/QUOTE]Sugar daddy she lives with must not be doing his job LOL that she's quoting that much.
[QUOTE=DickyBill;5908195]Last night set one up with a UTR I've known for a while and has always been dependable. 45 minutes after scheduled time still haven't heard anything so I shoot a text that something must have come up with her no problem catch her another time. 10 minutes later text back saying so sorry she was doing something spaced time yada yada. So a little over an hour late she shows up cleaned up looking cute and ready to go, or so I thought. Less then 10 minutes after some pretty good oral while she is stroking the rod she literally falls asleep. Head on my leg dick in her hand. Said she was putting a lot time in the regular job and was burning the candle at both ends. Anyway I let her sleep for a bit hoping to able to resume the fun after a nap but that wasn't happening. Finally woke her up told her we would reschedule she got dressed apologizing told her not to worry about it as we have always had fun before and everyone has a bad day. On her way she went no donations changed hands. It's now close to 1 in morning and of course the blue pill is running as strong as the force in Yoda. What to do? Looked through the ads tried a couple numbers, crickets. Scrolled through the phone and said fuck it, texted Jazzmyn. "up for an outcall"? Not expecting a return but to my surprise she texted me right back. "Ready now"? I said hell yea! "on my way" 20 minutes or so she was there on her bike. We talked for a little and she went to work. Like I said before every time I see her she does something different orally and tonight was no different. No rush as she worked me until I just couldn't hold back anymore. I blew nut that was so intense I thought my boys were going to come out my dick hole! We talked for a little more she actually can be pretty funny when you catch at the right time. Now 3 am what started out as loss turned into a monumental gain. Going to chalk utr as a bad night shit happens. And as always will repeat with Jazz.[/QUOTE]Hillarious! You got a way with words my friend.
[QUOTE=BadPastor;5908292]Sugar daddy she lives with must not be doing his job LOL that she's quoting that much.[/QUOTE]The demented pedo's inflation hitting everybody hard. Perhaps his sugar bowl isn' as full as it used to be lmao. Since she appears to be outcall only, that means daddy in your driveway, fuck that. Some of you guy may be ok with that but no way.
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Looking for a new conquest next weekend, anyone have any interactions with this one? Texted her she said do qv for 120 but seems like she is negotiable. Just wondering if it's worth the effort.
Met up with Krystal (formerly Brooke I believe). Was going to do car date BBBJ, ended up doing incall BBBJ for. 6. Entered, she had "cousins" sleeping in the living room, could not see except just for their exposed faces, with one that stared and watched me with their open eyes walk to her room, I told her I felt uncomfortable, but we proceeded, she locked the door. Laid on a sheet on the floor and proceeded with a mostly handsy BBBJ that was fair at best. Entire time I was expecting a foot to kick in the door. Also no longer looks like any of her pictures (baby weight)? Would never repeat the incall, would be hard pressed to do a car date either, there are better options IMO.
Totally expected 2 dudes to pop out from under the covers. Could not see if it was 2 guys either, just presuming "cousins" as dope boys / body guards / etc.
[QUOTE=DickyBill;5908195]Last night set one up with a UTR I've known for a while and has always been dependable. 45 minutes after scheduled time still haven't heard anything so I shoot a text that something must have come up with her no problem catch her another time. 10 minutes later text back saying so sorry she was doing something spaced time yada yada. So a little over an hour late she shows up cleaned up looking cute and ready to go, or so I thought. Less then 10 minutes after some pretty good oral while she is stroking the rod she literally falls asleep. Head on my leg dick in her hand. Said she was putting a lot time in the regular job and was burning the candle at both ends. Anyway I let her sleep for a bit hoping to able to resume the fun after a nap but that wasn't happening. Finally woke her up told her we would reschedule she got dressed apologizing told her not to worry about it as we have always had fun before and everyone has a bad day. On her way she went no donations changed hands. It's now close to 1 in morning and of course the blue pill is running as strong as the force in Yoda. What to do? Looked through the ads tried a couple numbers, crickets. Scrolled through the phone and said fuck it, texted Jazzmyn. "up for an outcall"? Not expecting a return but to my surprise she texted me right back. "Ready now"? I said hell yea! "on my way" 20 minutes or so she was there on her bike. We talked for a little and she went to work. Like I said before every time I see her she does something different orally and tonight was no different..[/QUOTE]Hilarious picturing this girl out on the bike early am head to appt LOL that said local PD see it she could be leading them right to your crib. Probable? Perhaps not but that would suck LOL.
[QUOTE=Vinny666;5909492]Met up with Krystal (formerly Brooke I believe). Was going to do car date BBBJ, ended up doing incall BBBJ for. 6. Entered, she had "cousins" sleeping in the living room, could not see except just for their exposed faces, with one that stared and watched me with their open eyes walk to her room, I told her I felt uncomfortable, but we proceeded, she locked the door. Laid on a sheet on the floor and proceeded with a mostly handsy BBBJ that was fair at best. Entire time I was expecting a foot to kick in the door. Also no longer looks like any of her pictures (baby weight)? Would never repeat the incall, would be hard pressed to do a car date either, there are better options IMO.
Totally expected 2 dudes to pop out from under the covers. Could not see if it was 2 guys either, just presuming "cousins" as dope boys / body guards / etc.[/QUOTE]Jennifer / Carmen / Karmen vacation must be over. Another one of the ones that lives close to me, but people watching the walk and sheet on the floor plus several lack luster reviews will keep me away.
[QUOTE=Reaper400;5909500]Hilarious picturing this girl out on the bike early am head to appt LOL that said local PD see it she could be leading them right to your crib. Probable? Perhaps not but that would suck LOL.[/QUOTE]And what would they find if they followed her here? Two adult naked people having sex? This area is not one where they would be looking for something like that anyway and the way she rolls is off the beaten path not worried about it at all. Also don't have a handler / driver sitting outside waiting.
[QUOTE=RWanges;5909528]Jennifer / Carmen / Karmen vacation must be over. Another one of the ones that lives close to me, but people watching the walk and sheet on the floor plus several lack luster reviews will keep me away.[/QUOTE]Stay away guys!!
[QUOTE=Reaper400;5908922]The demented pedo's inflation hitting everybody hard. Perhaps his sugar bowl isn' as full as it used to be lmao. Since she appears to be outcall only, that means daddy in your driveway, fuck that. Some of you guy may be ok with that but no way.[/QUOTE]Her sugar Daddy won't even drive her or let her take the car he makes her Uber everywhere unlike her ex-boyfriend who gave her his truck to drive gas in the truck and when he was off you'd even drive her to the dates for her than leave to she text him he treated like her like the queen she was anything she wanted she pretty much got unless it was her f* in his bed in his apartment that he paid for.
[QUOTE=Vinny666;5909492]Met up with Krystal (formerly Brooke I believe). Was going to do car date BBBJ, ended up doing incall BBBJ for. 6. Entered, she had "cousins" sleeping in the living room, could not see except just for their exposed faces, with one that stared and watched me with their open eyes walk to her room, I told her I felt uncomfortable, but we proceeded, she locked the door. Laid on a sheet on the floor and proceeded with a mostly handsy BBBJ that was fair at best. Entire time I was expecting a foot to kick in the door. Also no longer looks like any of her pictures (baby weight)? Would never repeat the incall, would be hard pressed to do a car date either, there are better options IMO.
Totally expected 2 dudes to pop out from under the covers. Could not see if it was 2 guys either, just presuming "cousins" as dope boys / body guards / etc.[/QUOTE]That's her drug addict boyfriend and she has some friends that will never go away maybe you should go get tested if you get my drift.
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Looking for a new conquest next weekend, anyone have any interactions with this one? Texted her she said do qv for 120 but seems like she is negotiable. Just wondering if it's worth the effort.[/QUOTE]Seen her about a year or so ago. Incall was Sarasota got there and the yard was full of cars so I opted to change for a car date not feeling comfortable she agreed. Car date got the job done but she didn't want to take her top off or anything I felt tits were offlimits either way. She was one of the better looking ones I have seen, but high donation request and upcharging keep me away. I honestly can't recall what my donation was for the date. I just remember job was complete and she wouldn't reveal upper body I may or may not have posted a review can't remember.
[QUOTE=StreetEye;5910522]Seen her about a year or so ago. Incall was Sarasota got there and the yard was full of cars so I opted to change for a car date not feeling comfortable she agreed. Car date got the job done but she didn't want to take her top off or anything I felt tits were offlimits either way. She was one of the better looking ones I have seen, but high donation request and upcharging keep me away. I honestly can't recall what my donation was for the date. I just remember job was complete and she wouldn't reveal upper body I may or may not have posted a review can't remember.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that. I'll pass on this one then.
[QUOTE=StreetEye;5910522]Seen her about a year or so ago. Incall was Sarasota got there and the yard was full of cars so I opted to change for a car date not feeling comfortable she agreed. Car date got the job done but she didn't want to take her top off or anything I felt tits were offlimits either way. She was one of the better looking ones I have seen, but high donation request and upcharging keep me away. I honestly can't recall what my donation was for the date. I just remember job was complete and she wouldn't reveal upper body I may or may not have posted a review can't remember.[/QUOTE]As I read your review I was really wanting to get to the part where everything was perfect. I have always liked her pics but prior reviews were not as kind as yours and she had BF / Pimp ripoff reports in the past too. If she turns into a decent provider I'll be calling a few times.
[QUOTE=Ebhunter;5911314]As I read your review I was really wanting to get to the part where everything was perfect. I have always liked her pics but prior reviews were not as kind as yours and she had BF / Pimp ripoff reports in the past too. If she turns into a decent provider I'll be calling a few times.[/QUOTE]I saw her a few years ago at a hotel just off Siesta. She just had a baby, had two girls in front area of suite and didn't remove much of anything. Not as attractive as her pictures, my opinion. BJ was for only a few minutes (not good) and said couldn't do anything else because of recent baby. I decided to cut my losses and leave as this encounter was going nowhere. Attitude from the start was bad as she wanted donation but wasn't into providing any service for it. Never again! Avoid.
[QUOTE=BobDm;5911531]I saw her a few years ago at a hotel just off Siesta. She just had a baby, had two girls in front area of suite and didn't remove much of anything. Not as attractive as her pictures, my opinion. BJ was for only a few minutes (not good) and said couldn't do anything else because of recent baby. I decided to cut my losses and leave as this encounter was going nowhere. Attitude from the start was bad as she wanted donation but wasn't into providing any service for it. Never again! Avoid.[/QUOTE]This is what this board is meant for. Great info and keeping fellow mongers from falling down the rabbit hole!
I see a few reports recently on Hope that makes me "hopeful" for a good time.
Can anyone confirm if she will do BBFS?
Does she still have a roommate? (Lulu).
If Lulu is still there, is Lulu the better choice and does she do BBFS? Does Lulu have her own phone number?
I saw that Hope and Lulu were doing doubles a while back, but I'm not into that. I'd rather choose one or the other.
Any intel you all can provide would be appreciated.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=DickyBill;5908195]Last night set one up with a UTR I've known for a while and has always been dependable. 45 minutes after scheduled time still haven't heard anything so I shoot a text that something must have come up with her no problem catch her another time. 10 minutes later text back saying so sorry she was doing something spaced time yada yada. So a little over an hour late she shows up cleaned up looking cute and ready to go, or so I thought. Less then 10 minutes after some pretty good oral while she is stroking the rod she literally falls asleep. Head on my leg dick in her hand. Said she was putting a lot time in the regular job and was burning the candle at both ends. Anyway I let her sleep for a bit hoping to able to resume the fun after a nap but that wasn't happening. Finally woke her up told her we would reschedule she got dressed apologizing told her not to worry about it as we have always had fun before and everyone has a bad day. On her way she went no donations changed hands. It's now close to 1 in morning and of course the blue pill is running as strong as the force in Yoda. What to do? Looked through the ads tried a couple numbers, crickets. Scrolled through the phone and said fuck it, texted Jazzmyn. "up for an outcall"? Not expecting a return but to my surprise she texted me right back. "Ready now"? I said hell yea! "on my way" 20 minutes or so she was there on her bike. We talked for a little and she went to work. Like I said before every time I see her she does something different orally and tonight was no different. No rush as she worked me until I just couldn't hold back anymore. I blew nut that was so intense I thought my boys were going to come out my dick hole! We talked for a little more she actually can be pretty funny when you catch at the right time. Now 3 am what started out as loss turned into a monumental gain. Going to chalk utr as a bad night shit happens. And as always will repeat with Jazz.[/QUOTE]UTR came back tonight with one her best performances to date. More then made up for the other night. Superb nut, excellent donation, happy camper. Now on to this weekends conquest.
[QUOTE=Member#1658;5913025]I see a few reports recently on Hope that makes me "hopeful" for a good time.
Can anyone confirm if she will do BBFS?
Does she still have a roommate? (Lulu).
If Lulu is still there, is Lulu the better choice and does she do BBFS? Does Lulu have her own phone number?
I saw that Hope and Lulu were doing doubles a while back, but I'm not into that. I'd rather choose one or the other.
Any intel you all can provide would be appreciated.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]Last time I spoke with LuLu a few weeks ago she was going to give me a good rate but then told me the motel she was staying at had no parking and wanted me to park in the gas station next door. Sketchy area on 14th St at night was not for me. Didn't seem like she had a roomy at the time. Just wasn't a place I wanted to leave my vehicle then walk. Have spoke to Hope but never set anything up. If you hook up please let us know how it went she's on my list for this weekend.
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[QUOTE=DickyBill;5914051]Last time I spoke with LuLu a few weeks ago she was going to give me a good rate but then told me the motel she was staying at had no parking and wanted me to park in the gas station next door. Sketchy area on 14th St at night was not for me. Didn't seem like she had a roomy at the time. Just wasn't a place I wanted to leave my vehicle then walk. Have spoke to Hope but never set anything up. If you hook up please let us know how it went she's on my list for this weekend.[/QUOTE]Yep. I know what motel they are (or were) in. I went as far as to show up one night and then bailed for the same reasons you did. If you could get them in the daytime, you could park across the street in the big parking lot and walk over without being noticed, but at night? Not sure. I definitely wouldn't park at the gas station.
[QUOTE=Member#1658;5913025]I see a few reports recently on Hope that makes me "hopeful" for a good time.
Can anyone confirm if she will do BBFS?
Does she still have a roommate? (Lulu).
If Lulu is still there, is Lulu the better choice and does she do BBFS? Does Lulu have her own phone number?
I saw that Hope and Lulu were doing doubles a while back, but I'm not into that. I'd rather choose one or the other.
Any intel you all can provide would be appreciated.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]There both sexy but hope not BBFS unless your regular it's definitely fun and if you get a chance to f* the s* out of her have fun.
[QUOTE=DickyBill;5914051]Last time I spoke with LuLu a few weeks ago she was going to give me a good rate but then told me the motel she was staying at had no parking and wanted me to park in the gas station next door. Sketchy area on 14th St at night was not for me. Didn't seem like she had a roomy at the time. Just wasn't a place I wanted to leave my vehicle then walk. Have spoke to Hope but never set anything up. If you hook up please let us know how it went she's on my list for this weekend.[/QUOTE]It good in morning not night.