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[QUOTE=BubbleBoy5;1218136]P. S. Anyone kind enough to fill me in on what exactly "freckles" refers to? It would sure put my mind at ease.[/QUOTE]He just loves girls with freckles. The more the better, as he points out often. With all of the codes and sign language we speak with here, your assumption that it meant something else is perfectly understandable. But I really had to laugh at the question.
Welcome to the board. Keep posting reports and you'll get where you want to be.
TA2
Plus please reveal to providers the VIN number of your Crown Vic, officer Bubble Boy. Ha! Just kidding. Relax, enjoy the board and things will happen. Plus there are other sites / boards out there (sorry Jackson. Haaa!).
Play safe and keep in real.
BFDeal.
[QUOTE=BubbleBoy5; 1218136]I'm a new hobbyist here, finally ready to make my first post. Upon discovering this site a few months ago, I realized that I've been a "hobbyist" my whole life and all along just thought I was a pervert. (I know, I know)
I ventured out into this exciting new world and learned some lessons the hard way. I started safe, just to get my feet wet, with a couple visits to some AMPs. Wally World (that mole still haunts my dreams) and the Flower Shop. But middle-aged Asian women just aren't my thing.
So, I gave backpage a shot. 1st encounter was with a southside "bodyrubber" named Brooke, who ended up being a grandmother with a gimp leg. She was a sweet lady and God bless grandmothers, but not really for me. Then I tried what I thought, judging from the BP pic, was a young, curvy blonde chick (hotel off I-69/82nd) that ended up being the equivalent of three young, curvy blonde chicks in one body. I wouldn't have touched her with my 3-iron and had to tell her I didn't bring enough money just so I could get the hell out of there. Bad experience that had me really flustered.
Since then, I've dedicated a pretty absurd amount of my free time studying these boards. Just trying to be a sponge and soak up as much wisdom as I can from the senior members. I haven't tried to contact any of the highly regarded providers often discussed because they all appear to require references. It's the "chicken or the egg" debate, as a fellow hobbyist mentioned in a previous post. You need a provider to give you a reference, but you can't meet a provider without a reference. It's a frustrating catch-22.
My question (and I realize I should probably just ask a provider) is would a provider accept a stack of personal documents, that clearly show who I am and who I work for, as a screening method? If I were to meet a provider with my driver's license, payroll confirm. 401k statement, bank statement, phone bill, gas bill, cable bill and W-2. Wouldn't that be sufficient to prove I'm nobody's uncle? Obviously not for her to keep and some info would need to be blacked out. Seems to me that would be just as convincing as a reference from other providers. What's to stop me from giving a large rose donation to a provider, in exchange for nothing more than referring me to another provider?
I hope I didn't waste too much of your time. I apologize for being naive, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. If I need to do some reporting and get a few "TOFTT's" under my belt in order to get some senior member mentoring, then so be it. I'll pay my dues. But if any members want to help out a daisy fresh rookie, PM me any wisdom you wish to share. I'm all ears.
Happy hunting,
Bubbleboy.
P. S. Anyone kind enough to fill me in on what exactly "freckles" refers to? It would sure put my mind at ease. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BubbleBoy5;1218136]My question (and I realize I should probably just ask a provider) is would a provider accept a stack of personal documents, that clearly show who I am and who I work for, as a screening method? If I were to meet a provider with my driver's license, payroll confirm. 401k statement, bank statement, phone bill, gas bill, cable bill and W-2. Wouldn't that be sufficient to prove I'm nobody's uncle? Obviously not for her to keep and some info would need to be blacked out. Seems to me that would be just as convincing as a reference from other providers. What's to stop me from giving a large rose donation to a provider, in exchange for nothing more than referring me to another provider?[/QUOTE]Some providers ask for exactly that type of verification. I've been hearing about some who want a work number to verify employment, and a drivers license upon arrival, then you're good to go. There are also some referral services that will verify you with some of the providers. It's all up to the provider and what she requires. Easiest way to find out is to ask her.
You can also try to become a member of 411 or RS2k. They are a verifying web service for providers. It cost. 5 and they just keep thing private.
[QUOTE=BubbleBoy5; 1218136]I'm a new hobbyist here, finally ready to make my first post. Upon discovering this site a few months ago, I realized that I've been a "hobbyist" my whole life and all along just thought I was a pervert. (I know, I know)
I ventured out into this exciting new world and learned some lessons the hard way. I started safe, just to get my feet wet, with a couple visits to some AMPs. Wally World (that mole still haunts my dreams) and the Flower Shop. But middle-aged Asian women just aren't my thing.
So, I gave backpage a shot. 1st encounter was with a southside "bodyrubber" named Brooke, who ended up being a grandmother with a gimp leg. She was a sweet lady and God bless grandmothers, but not really for me. Then I tried what I thought, judging from the BP pic, was a young, curvy blonde chick (hotel off I-69/82nd) that ended up being the equivalent of three young, curvy blonde chicks in one body. I wouldn't have touched her with my 3-iron and had to tell her I didn't bring enough money just so I could get the hell out of there. Bad experience that had me really flustered.
Since then, I've dedicated a pretty absurd amount of my free time studying these boards. Just trying to be a sponge and soak up as much wisdom as I can from the senior members. I haven't tried to contact any of the highly regarded providers often discussed because they all appear to require references. It's the "chicken or the egg" debate, as a fellow hobbyist mentioned in a previous post. You need a provider to give you a reference, but you can't meet a provider without a reference. It's a frustrating catch-22.
My question (and I realize I should probably just ask a provider) is would a provider accept a stack of personal documents, that clearly show who I am and who I work for, as a screening method? If I were to meet a provider with my driver's license, payroll confirm. 401k statement, bank statement, phone bill, gas bill, cable bill and W-2. Wouldn't that be sufficient to prove I'm nobody's uncle? Obviously not for her to keep and some info would need to be blacked out. Seems to me that would be just as convincing as a reference from other providers. What's to stop me from giving a large rose donation to a provider, in exchange for nothing more than referring me to another provider?
I hope I didn't waste too much of your time. I apologize for being naive, any guidance would be greatly appreciated. If I need to do some reporting and get a few "TOFTT's" under my belt in order to get some senior member mentoring, then so be it. I'll pay my dues. But if any members want to help out a daisy fresh rookie, PM me any wisdom you wish to share. I'm all ears.
Happy hunting,
Bubbleboy.
P. S. Anyone kind enough to fill me in on what exactly "freckles" refers to? It would sure put my mind at ease. [/QUOTE]
Many of you know Teresa and any of you that have seen her lately know she has surely expanded the talents of her craft. Always trying new things to keep it exciting, as it wasn't already. She has been doing 2 girl sesions with Lacey, which she loves, exploring the Mediteranian and really getting more into a dominate roll. Some of you, like myself, have seen those toys first hand. Well now she is looking to expand that dominate roll even more by doing MMF sessions. Got you thinking doesn't it.
Also,
Teresa, Lacey and maybe a third lady are looking to have a meet and greet for some of their clients. If there is enough interest, it would be held at Teresa's apartment.
So, if any of this sounds interesting, get in touch with Teresa and she will fill you in on the details.
Du3777
For those of you who know her, Kim (AKA Marie VIP) from KC is in town for a few days. HURRY LADS she is a ATF!
[QUOTE=Du3777; 1219377]Many of you know Teresa and any of you that have seen her lately know she has surely expanded the talents of her craft. Always trying new things to keep it exciting, as it wasn't already. She has been doing 2 girl sesions with Lacey, which she loves, exploring the Mediteranian and really getting more into a dominate roll. Some of you, like myself, have seen those toys first hand. Well now she is looking to expand that dominate roll even more by doing MMF sessions. Got you thinking doesn't it.
Also,
Teresa, Lacey and maybe a third lady are looking to have a meet and greet for some of their clients. If there is enough interest, it would be held at Teresa's apartment.
So, if any of this sounds interesting, get in touch with Teresa and she will fill you in on the details.
Du3777[/QUOTE]I hear she runs off referral only and I have yet to find the info. Can anyone help via PM please along with your thoughts on her and description.
[QUOTE=JohnBuddy;1219838]For those of you who know her, Kim (AKA Marie VIP) from KC is in town for a few days. HURRY LADS she is a ATF![/QUOTE]I saw her, she is cute alright and worth it. Very business-like. She's mixed up with other girls here, and you never know who you're talking to, who's being booked or where you're going to meet. Very disconcerting. She's gone back to KC for a while and hopefully taking her turmoil with her.
I was going to see Kim until I heard about drama brewing. She looked great. They don't seem to understand that there is a network that will figure out their shenanigans quickly. Stay Safe
Members,
Can anyone help and send a referral for a Lady of Color that they have seen?
I see many different backpage ads, but some look TGTBT or just not my type.
PM me if you can send a lady my way.
Thanks,
IL
The title doesn't mean that I am dating a working girl.
I'm a single guy so I look at a dating site from time to time. Just this week I noticed two providers who are on there. One of them I contacted with their "fake" name and she responded positively. The other I didn't contact but I know its her.
I'm sorry its not much to report on that you guys can use. But I just thought it was interesting. I guess working girls need love too.
Saw an ad by [url]http://KayceeWarner.com[/url]. Googled it up and found that back in 2009, this forum reported someone by the name Kaycee scamming a lot of hobbyists. Not 100% sure both are the same Kaycee. There was reference to the thin legs in her photos belonging to someone else. Wonder why these providers are not smart enough to throw away their tainted work names!
[QUOTE=Tony Verghese; 1223003]Saw an ad by.
[url]http://KayceeWarner.com[/url]
Googled it up and found that back in 2009, this forum reported someone by the name Kaycee scamming a lot of hobbyists. Not 100% sure both are the same Kaycee. There was reference to the thin legs in her photos belonging to someone else. Wonder why these providers are not smart enough to throw away their tainted work names! [/QUOTE]I haven't communicated with KayceeWarner in a couple of years, but I am quite sure that what you found from 2009 was another provider carrying out a vendetta against her under a false profile. Let's not drag that crap up again. Kaycee was and probably still is very much for real. At the time she had a great MILF body and provided great service. I can't say for certain that no one ever had a bad experience with her, but I and some other guys I know left very happy.
[QUOTE=Scup1958;1223037]I haven't communicated with KayceeWarner in a couple of years, but I am quite sure that what you found from 2009 was another provider carrying out a vendetta against her under a false profile. Let's not drag that crap up again. Kaycee was and probably still is very much for real. At the time she had a great MILF body and provided great service. I can't say for certain that no one ever had a bad experience with her, but I and some other guys I know left very happy.[/QUOTE]I meet with Kaycee a while back. No scam and great service. She is a MILF that provides superior service. She ran a webb site for a while that was always having problems and some of the providers that used it felt she was not doing enought to fix the issues. They tried to get revenge thru trashing her. No reason to be concerned if you are meeting her but of course YMMV.
[QUOTE=Stnick62;1223053]I meet with Kaycee a while back. No scam and great service. She is a MILF that provides superior service. She ran a webb site for a while that was always having problems and some of the providers that used it felt she was not doing enought to fix the issues. They tried to get revenge thru trashing her. No reason to be concerned if you are meeting her but of course YMMV.[/QUOTE]Thanks darling. And yes, I do provide a superior (scam free) service and all the chatter and gossip from the past, is just that. In the past. I do not wish to bring back the vendetta situation, as it seems no matter how many times you tell the truth everyone still has their 'own' version of the events of the past.
And, as far as me changing my 'tainted' name well, I have done nothing wrong so why would I change my name? So, now I ask you can we please leave this crap in the past and get on to living, loving and bringing this community back to the fun place it used to be. &9829;
[QUOTE=Scup1958;1223037]I haven't communicated with KayceeWarner in a couple of years, but I am quite sure that what you found from 2009 was another provider carrying out a vendetta against her under a false profile. Let's not drag that crap up again. Kaycee was and probably still is very much for real. At the time she had a great MILF body and provided great service. I can't say for certain that no one ever had a bad experience with her, but I and some other guys I know left very happy.[/QUOTE]My friend Scup is correct and on point as usual. I was and except for a couple of issues on my end that made me cancel a couple of dates, I would once again be a fan of Kaycee. I don't know why I let her slip my mind when she is out of view because I really enjoy time with her. I would not be concerned with any history if I were you, And just be glad she is back
[QUOTE=BigMack;1201469]JcJChan forget two hands with Sensey She will have your toes curled, you will engaged in a superb game of tonsil hockey and before you start the festivities you might let SS know if you have Cruise Control <SMILE The woman is aptly named and it is one of many reasons why you will want to cum back over and over. She is a not to be missed lady.[/QUOTE]Sorry I missed this earlier as I have been out of town. Thanks for the info. SensorySurprise, hope to meet you soon!
Knowing neither of the two gentlemen I came on her specifically to get away from board drama and CRAP. I don't know the lady but would offer the opinion that each of us needs to follow their own dictates based on what works for them. Let the drama go PM and keep it off these board barring STD's and drugs of course. Otherwise keep it drama free.
Do have one thought for the ladies. When you post on your websites under services that if we have any other questions about something we don't see, to ask you ASK, but post in your emails any suggestive questions will drop contact immediately think it over. Doesn't need to be spelled out any plainer than that.
Have a good day.
[QUOTE=BigMack; 1223507]Knowing neither of the two gentlemen I came on her specifically to get away from board drama and CRAP. I don't know the lady but would offer the opinion that each of us needs to follow their own dictates based on what works for them. Let the drama go PM and keep it off these board barring STD's and drugs of course. Otherwise keep it drama free.
[/QUOTE]Agreed. Seems like you got to wade through so many drama posts to get to actual reports!
[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1215258]But Google the following:
Tara escort 937.
In that order and click on the third item down. I think it may be time to call an old friend to see if she can line up a visit to central Indiana for a week to 10 days.
Play safe and keep it real.
BFDeal[/QUOTE]Is she coming? She looks almost TGTBT. Stunning if those are her real pics.
Just an FYI:
Teresa and Lacey are working doubles this Friday. Teresa has a new phone number so if you are interested hit me up and I will help you out.
Du3777
[QUOTE=Du3777; 1225190]Just an FYI:
Teresa and Lacey are working doubles this Friday. Teresa has a new phone number so if you are interested hit me up and I will help you out.
Du3777[/QUOTE]Can you send me that info? Greatly appriciated!
Lots of providers say "don't ask me explicit questions by email or text or phone" or they will never call / email you back. Well if you have already seen that provider then is it okay to go ahead and ask explicit questions? For example if you wanted to ask about msog or cim or something?
[QUOTE=Jcjchan;1228334]Lots of providers say "don't ask me explicit questions by email or text or phone" or they will never call / email you back. Well if you have already seen that provider then is it okay to go ahead and ask explicit questions? For example if you wanted to ask about msog or cim or something?[/QUOTE]I would ask those questions, if you have already seen her. I don't see how it would harm anything.
[QUOTE=Jcjchan;1228334]Lots of providers say "don't ask me explicit questions by email or text or phone" or they will never call / email you back. Well if you have already seen that provider then is it okay to go ahead and ask explicit questions? For example if you wanted to ask about msog or cim or something?[/QUOTE]That is correct. One of the main reason that the provider tell you not to say anything is because it could be recorded and use against you if arrested. Once you have form a good relationship with the provide then she trust you not to be Leo you can talk to her about anything that you want.
[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1228433]That is correct. One of the main reason that the provider tell you not to say anything is because it could be recorded and use against you if arrested. Once you have form a good relationship with the provide then she trust you not to be Leo you can talk to her about anything that you want.[/QUOTE]Even if I had a good relationship with said provider, I would still be leery about sending text that are explicit in nature. I would be scared the providers phone would get seized in a sting. And those texts could come back to haunt me. Or maybe I'm overly paranoid.
Also I just need to say it sucks that E.COM isn't around anymore. It was nice knowing what traveling providers were stopping through. Now I got no idea. Sorry I just had to get that of my chest.
If the providers phone is seized in a sting you just say that you just like sending messeges but you did not go trew with it.
[QUOTE=Osirusss; 1228436]Even if I had a good relationship with said provider, I would still be leery about sending text that are explicit in nature. I would be scared the providers phone would get seized in a sting. And those texts could come back to haunt me. Or maybe I'm overly paranoid.
Also I just need to say it sucks that E. COM isn't around anymore. It was nice knowing what traveling providers were stopping through. Now I got no idea. Sorry I just had to get that of my chest.[/QUOTE]
Contacted four ladies last night and not one response for today. Didn't realize the economy was so good LOL Have a happy fourth ladies. Not even any specials to start the fourth off with a bang.
Big Mack
[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1228520]If the providers phone is seized in a sting you just say that you just like sending messeges but you did not go trew with it.[/QUOTE]That might be the correct response-or the response of last resort-with your wife or gf, but the proper response to your Uncle Leo is "May I see your warrant, and your identification?" followed by "I wish to speak with my attorney, and will be making no statements outside of his presence."
Actually, the correct response is,"Doctor, I keep having these recurrent attacks of paranoia in which my fears about the legal system bear little or no resemblance to the law, or how enforcement works."
Solicitation is a Class A misdemeanor, unless you're a three-time loser. Misdemeanors generally must be witnessed by a police officer for charges to be filed. This does not mean you could not possibly be arrested for the content of an email or a text, or for any other reason a cop or prosecutor dreams up, if they wish. It means that if that occurred you'd most likely be looking at a bluff, or a shakedown. You should never respond to either; you should have an attorney do so for you. If the prospect of facing that much terrifies you, or the personal cost is too high, then learn how to communicate without breaking the law, or, better yet, don't break the law at all.
Fanning unrealistic fears is the second-worst thing about the hobby, right after the very real legal consequences of America's bluenosed laws and juvenile attitude about sex.
[url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/better-than-starb-u-c-k-s-h-o-l-d-o-n-b-i-g-d-a-d-d-y-25/4387630[/url]
I called her to my hotel room today, she said she will be there in an hour. I called her after an hour and she did not answer and never showed up. Has anybody seen her?
[QUOTE=Dewarp; 1228722][url]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/better-than-starb-u-c-k-s-h-o-l-d-o-n-b-i-g-d-a-d-d-y-25/4387630[/url]
I called her to my hotel room today, she said she will be there in an hour. I called her after an hour and she did not answer and never showed up. Has anybody seen her?[/QUOTE]Dewarp, I'm not able to provide a link but that phone number was reported as being Brittany 30, who pepper sprayed a guy and took his money. I'm serious about the report I read. I have no other information.
Hi everyone,
I am new to this hobby and I have just one question everyone that I would like to see ask for references which would be fine if I had seen anyone before but I have not. Does anyone have an answer to this problem?
[QUOTE=Osirusss;1228431]I would ask those questions, if you have already seen her. I don't see how it would harm anything.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Davidonecall;1228433]That is correct. One of the main reason that the provider tell you not to say anything is because it could be recorded and use against you if arrested. Once you have form a good relationship with the provide then she trust you not to be Leo you can talk to her about anything that you want.[/QUOTE]Thank you for your responses!
[QUOTE=Osirusss;1228436]Also I just need to say it sucks that E.COM isn't around anymore. It was nice knowing what traveling providers were stopping through. Now I got no idea. Sorry I just had to get that of my chest.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=B Beall;1228698]That might be the correct response-or the response of last resort-with your wife or gf, but the proper response to your Uncle Leo is "May I see your warrant, and your identification?" followed by "I wish to speak with my attorney, and will be making no statements outside of his presence."[/QUOTE]Totally agree with both of these statements.
[QUOTE=GoldenWheels; 1228871]Hi everyone,
I am new to this hobby and I have just one question everyone that I would like to see ask for references which would be fine if I had seen anyone before but I have not. Does anyone have an answer to this problem?[/QUOTE]There are websites that you can sign up for that will verify you. If you google "verification escort" or something like that, you will see many options. You need to pay a monthly or yearly fee but there is one that has a lifetime membership that is popular in Indiana. Also the benefit of the last one is that the company is based out of the country so you don't have to worry about them getting busted.
Another option is to contact the provider and explain your situation. In many cases she will tell you that you can get verified through other means. PM me for more details and stay safe!
Regarding several posts below, we should not have explicit discussions on the phone, by email or however.
GoldenWheels, you're not the first to have this problem. Contact the girl of your dreams using the method her ad says she prefers to be contacted. Tell her you are new and you would like to see her for an hour. Tell her what time later that day or the next day you have in mind. Be a gentleman and ask her no questions. Not having references should not be a problem. If it is call the girl in your second dream.
To the man I said "ok, Let's do it" today.
Thank you for hanging in there and proving to me that sometimes I need to just do it.
What a mind blowing time (for me)! Wowzer!
See men, keep trying and work for those you want. It just may pay off in the end!
Many kisses and Happy Fourth of July hope everyone gets a "fireworks" show xoxo.
Oh and support your favorite escort week!
[QUOTE=Golfcart; 1229117]Regarding several posts below, we should not have explicit discussions on the phone, by email or however.
GoldenWheels, you're not the first to have this problem. Contact the girl of your dreams using the method her ad says she prefers to be contacted. Tell her you are new and you would like to see her for an hour. Tell her what time later that day or the next day you have in mind. Be a gentleman and ask her no questions. Not having references should not be a problem. If it is call the girl in your second dream.[/QUOTE]Completely agreed. I have found that the "other means" of verification are far more reliable than escort references anyway. The girls change numbers a lot, or one doesn't like another, or a variety of other reasons. Simply following the instructions your date gives you should work in 90% of cases.
[QUOTE=West Central;1229251]Completely agreed. I have found that the "other means" of verification are far more reliable than escort references anyway. The girls change numbers a lot, or one doesn't like another, or a variety of other reasons. Simply following the instructions your date gives you should work in 90% of cases.[/QUOTE]If "other means" refers to the commercial reference sites I never went that route. I journeyed from the farm to the hobby without any references and found it to be no problem. The girl I picked out had a site that said to fill out the contact form, which I did, and it said to pick a date and time, which I did.
She replied: "Hi Honey. Thank you for visiting my web site and for submitting the Contact Form. I would love to meet you! As of right now I'm available 8/18 at 9pm. Would you like to confirm? Just let me know Honey and I'll set that date aside for Us. Much Luv."
That was painless. The date was two weeks off and of course I emailed the daylights out of her but I was so green I didn't know better. I ended up seeing her for three years. That was a long time ago.
I should have suggested to GoldenWheels he might take this opportunity to shoot for the taller timber. A girl who is new herself will be more nervous and not comfortable trusting her own instinct. GoldenWheels will do fine as long as he schedules on the spot, avoids questions, and doesn't come off as a tire-kicker, or tries to act like a big shot, the usual downers.
GoldenWheels if you are reading this, avoid BackPage. Those pics are so much hotter because the girls there are so much faker. She'll take your money and run off without screening you first.
I agree with your posting, I'm just wondering if anyone had this happen to them. I mean if Leo had try to make an accusation or intimidate someone in confessing of a you. Lawful activity.
[QUOTE=B Beall; 1228698]That might be the correct response-or the response of last resort-with your wife or gf, but the proper response to your Uncle Leo is "May I see your warrant, and your identification?" followed by "I wish to speak with my attorney, and will be making no statements outside of his presence."
Actually, the correct response is,"Doctor, I keep having these recurrent attacks of paranoia in which my fears about the legal system bear little or no resemblance to the law, or how enforcement works."
Solicitation is a Class A misdemeanor, unless you're a three-time loser. Misdemeanors generally must be witnessed by a police officer for charges to be filed. This does not mean you could not possibly be arrested for the content of an email or a text, or for any other reason a cop or prosecutor dreams up, if they wish. It means that if that occurred you'd most likely be looking at a bluff, or a shakedown. You should never respond to either; you should have an attorney do so for you. If the prospect of facing that much terrifies you, or the personal cost is too high, then learn how to communicate without breaking the law, or, better yet, don't break the law at all.
Fanning unrealistic fears is the second-worst thing about the hobby, right after the very real legal consequences of America's bluenosed laws and juvenile attitude about sex.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BigMack; 1228583]Contacted four ladies last night and not one response for today. Didn't realize the economy was so good LOL Have a happy fourth ladies. Not even any specials to start the fourth off with a bang.
Big Mack[/QUOTE]You have lost your touch or just bad timing. Better luck next time.