Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Alansmithee;5376841]LOL Thank you. Yeah, I'm finding out the same. She is very very good at what she does![/QUOTE]Can you please verify if this Kelseeeyy account still exists? I canceled my previous account completely. So I went to make a new one and that's in the demo / free trial mode.

What's really weird is I created this free trial account and the search results come up with a fraction of what I'm used to seeing. For example if I search on 18 to 19 year olds, with a location distance of 50 miles (my location is Seattle), I should come up with more than just 2 hits.

And unfortunately in demo / free trial mode, I can't do a search on a specific user name.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d895f063-b40b-47bf-8b56-31493007aae5[/URL]

Straightforward discussion on SA then moved to text where she said the was looking for $50/ week for groceries. I countered with a ppm offer to which she responded that she needed 50 for groceries this week and she's not available till next week.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7d920d7c-e230-4216-9a70-356257b2df02[/URL]

600 ppm CFS, no greek. Had a very pro vibe about her.

[QUOTE=Alansmithee;5376841]LOL Thank you. Yeah, I'm finding out the same. She is very very good at what she does![/QUOTE]Say, can you (or anyone) check if she still has an account on SA? She says she deactivated it so I wanted to confirm.

I created a demo / free trial account on SA, but it's barely finding anyone on SA. For example, I did a search on all 18-19 year old girls in a 25 mile radius from my location (in Seattle) and it only found about 3-4 people.

[QUOTE=Twister100;5396179][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7d920d7c-e230-4216-9a70-356257b2df02[/URL]

600 ppm CFS, no greek. Had a very pro vibe about her.[/QUOTE]She invited her friend and we had a duo for 500 ppm. Probably the cheapest duo you can get with two 19 year olds. Did an I'd check on them because her profile says 25 but she told me she was 19.

I was able to CIM but yea totally agree on the pro vibe. I told her to tone it down a bit if she wants repeats.

[QUOTE=Twister100;5396094][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d895f063-b40b-47bf-8b56-31493007aae5[/URL]

Straightforward discussion on SA then moved to text where she said the was looking for $50/ week for groceries. I countered with a ppm offer to which she responded that she needed 50 for groceries this week and she's not available till next week.[/QUOTE]Honesty, are you surprised? I wouldn't have given her the time of day:

1) Brand new profile as of today.

2) No content in her profile.

These bare-bones profiles are all just scams.

[QUOTE=Alansmithee;5396236]Say, can you (or anyone) check if she still has an account on SA? She says she deactivated it so I wanted to confirm.

I created a demo / free trial account on SA, but it's barely finding anyone on SA. For example, I did a search on all 18-19 year old girls in a 25 mile radius from my location (in Seattle) and it only found about 3-4 people.[/QUOTE]Whooops, sorry for the dupe post. When I first posted and didn't see it appear, I figured I hadn't clicked the Submit / Upload Report button.

[QUOTE=Alansmithee;5396236]Say, can you (or anyone) check if she still has an account on SA? She says she deactivated it so I wanted to confirm.

I created a demo / free trial account on SA, but it's barely finding anyone on SA. For example, I did a search on all 18-19 year old girls in a 25 mile radius from my location (in Seattle) and it only found about 3-4 people.[/QUOTE]She'd told me the same and it looks like her profile isn't there but that could be done as easily as just blocking me (or you).

Pretty sure it's just part of all her other clever manipulations. Nothing is sacred and she'll try just about anything to get you to send money.

[QUOTE=Twister100;5396179][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7d920d7c-e230-4216-9a70-356257b2df02[/URL]

600 ppm CFS, no greek. Had a very pro vibe about her.[/QUOTE]I've been messaging with her for a week. She keeps asking about my PPM. I keep telling her $$ depending of circumstances. Gave her my number and asked her to text for details; she never did. Couple days pass, she comes back Sunday morning on SA asking "are you available today?" Within minutes I tell her my evening looks good and then radio silence. I pinged her again in the evening asking what's up? And she finally comes back at midnight asking what's your PPM?

Total waste of my time. And definitely a wannabe pro.

[QUOTE=Maren5;5396671]She'd told me the same and it looks like her profile isn't there but that could be done as easily as just blocking me (or you).

Pretty sure it's just part of all her other clever manipulations. Nothing is sacred and she'll try just about anything to get you to send money.[/QUOTE]She is an interesting person! Very tenacious as you said. I guess someone very close to her just died very recently which is why she was in Spokane. She just got back the other day. I've been trying to hook up with her.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/3579d6c521fa8751[/URL]

Wants a ridiculous price for a meet and greet. Wants an even more ridiculous price for actually getting busy. *NEXT*.

Phone number traces to some dude in Issaquah.

She's a student. Spends so e time in Seattle. However. Wants 600 ppm. Will not "Lower her standards. " "I know what I deserve. " doesn't get any better with the private pics either.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/76c96d98-1431-4b9f-924c-7e17aea964fb[/URL]

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/995f1744-6436-4afd-93a3-85c2012574b6[/URL]

Actually pictures of Carla Asensi Richart.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/carlaasensirich/?hl=en[/URL]

Her STG ad- [URL]https://seattle.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/your-1-pmtst-s-oy-xui/833442833715[/URL].

Don't have the SA link because I blocked her for being a çunt with serious attitude. Based on her responses on SA I would expect high maintenance and minimal services. She has a surprisingly explicit pic on SA if you can find her.

So I've been on here before and yes there has always been some crazy insane prices, but I recently tried it out again and it seems where $200 to $300 was a good price point the new price point seems to be Maybe $400 to $600. Now I know there's inflation about but its not that inflated from 2 years ago. Did a bunch of loaded guys just flood the market? Paying double to triple the price?

[QUOTE=Spacehog;5404521]So I've been on here before and yes there has always been some crazy insane prices, but I recently tried it out again and it seems where $200 to $300 was a good price point the new price point seems to be Maybe $400 to $600. Now I know there's inflation about but its not that inflated from 2 years ago. Did a bunch of loaded guys just flood the market? Paying double to triple the price?[/QUOTE]Amazon, Micro $oft, Google, Facebook.

I got a look at what AMZ is paying software developers- it's insane and I say that as someone who works in tech. To answer your question directly- yes, you've got a bunch of millenial simps who had helicopter moms that never let them stand on their own two feet and learn how to actually be men running around the area with a shit ton of money and commensurate amounts of mommy issues trying to figure out how to actually interact with women. These useless cucks are the ones the hoors on the other board are leeching off of and that are driving prices up and services down as they'll pay $600/ hr for a shitty rub-and-tug. Maybe without the tug part as I'd bet a lot of these soy boys probably can't even get hard around a woman.

It's not really their fault, they grew up in a world that coddled them and didn't allow them the chance to actually grow up. Doesn't mean I hate them and what they represent any less.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3ec4ebbc-dc17-4e02-bff6-6b6a55c21610[/URL]

Wants to meet immediately but only after you have given her a deposit. Says her snap is at classycassy420.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5404553]Amazon, Micro $oft, Google, Facebook.

I got a look at what AMZ is paying software developers- it's insane and I say that as someone who works in tech. To answer your question directly- yes, you've got a bunch of millenial simps who had helicopter moms that never let them stand on their own two feet and learn how to actually be men running around the area with a shit ton of money and commensurate amounts of mommy issues trying to figure out how to actually interact with women. These useless cucks are the ones the hoors on the other board are leeching off of and that are driving prices up and services down as they'll pay $600/ hr for a shitty rub-and-tug. Maybe without the tug part as I'd bet a lot of these soy boys probably can't even get hard around a woman.

It's not really their fault, they grew up in a world that coddled them and didn't allow them the chance to actually grow up. Doesn't mean I hate them and what they represent any less.[/QUOTE]Okay boomer.

[QUOTE=PoopyPenisFart;5405300]Okay boomer.[/QUOTE]Or they make so much Bank that five hundo is squat shit to them.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;5404521]So I've been on here before and yes there has always been some crazy insane prices, but I recently tried it out again and it seems where $200 to $300 was a good price point the new price point seems to be Maybe $400 to $600. Now I know there's inflation about but its not that inflated from 2 years ago. Did a bunch of loaded guys just flood the market? Paying double to triple the price?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5404553]Amazon, Micro $oft, Google, Facebook.

I got a look at what AMZ is paying software developers- it's insane and I say that as someone who works in tech. To answer your question directly- yes, you've got a bunch of millennial simps who had helicopter moms that never let them stand on their own two feet and learn how to actually be men running around the area with a shit ton of money and commensurate amounts of mommy issues trying to figure out how to actually interact with women. These useless cucks are the ones the hoors on the other board are leeching off of and that are driving prices up and services down as they'll pay $600/ hr for a shitty rub-and-tug. Maybe without the tug part as I'd bet a lot of these soy boys probably can't even get hard around a woman.

It's not really their fault, they grew up in a world that coddled them and didn't allow them the chance to actually grow up. Doesn't mean I hate them and what they represent any less.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PoopyPenisFart;5405300]Okay boomer.[/QUOTE]While it is not only the "millennial simps who had helicopter moms" that have contributed to this problem. They definitely have propagated it. Towards the end of last year and first quarter of this year I did spend a lot of time on SA and really connected with a few women. When prices started going back up after the pandemic. Our conversations, invariably, moved over to their prices and strategy to get money using SA. What I learned from these women was that a lot of the men they were seeing were either small business owners, tech (of course) and the financial services (stock market) types. So yeah the millennials have not helped the matter, and they have exasperated it for sure, but this is not industry based. It is personality based.

Most of the guys that pay these ridiculous rates have not hobbies much and do not realize that there is NO direct correlation between donation / allowance and level of service. Just because you pay 5/ hr does not mean you are going to get "upscale" and great service. They are also (sometimes not always) the type that do not have much game and have this stupid notion. That if you bargain or haggle. It will turn the woman off, I see this as a lack of experience and also a lack of confidence in themselves. This new breed of monger could be younger (but not necessarily) seems to be the new majority of the Seattle hobby scene. They do not mind paying whatever is asked for them and then smile after lackluster service and provide glowing reviews. By doing this they think they are feminists. The reality is they just (mostly) lack the confidence to talk, and mostly the experience to understand that every service industry, including this one, functions on demand and supply. Oh well tired of preaching this Morgan. There are chumps (young and old) they will continue to exist. The best we can do is to keep it real, post honest reviews and provide the information to show that prices do not equal service and hopefully they will learn and get more experienced over time.

Hate to break it to you, but it's not just the Seattle Market where guys are complaining about the jacked up rates.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5404553]Amazon, Micro $oft, Google, Facebook.

I got a look at what AMZ is paying software developers- it's insane and I say that as someone who works in tech. To answer your question directly- yes, you've got a bunch of millenial simps who had helicopter moms that never let them stand on their own two feet and learn how to actually be men running around the area with a shit ton of money and commensurate amounts of mommy issues trying to figure out how to actually interact with women. These useless cucks are the ones the hoors on the other board are leeching off of and that are driving prices up and services down as they'll pay $600/ hr for a shitty rub-and-tug. Maybe without the tug part as I'd bet a lot of these soy boys probably can't even get hard around a woman.

It's not really their fault, they grew up in a world that coddled them and didn't allow them the chance to actually grow up. Doesn't mean I hate them and what they represent any less.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5406713]While it is not only the "millennial simps who had helicopter moms" that have contributed to this problem. They definitely have propagated it. Towards the end of last year and first quarter of this year I did spend a lot of time on SA and really connected with a few women. When prices started going back up after the pandemic. Our conversations, invariably, moved over to their prices and strategy to get money using SA. What I learned from these women was that a lot of the men they were seeing were either small business owners, tech (of course) and the financial services (stock market) types. So yeah the millennials have not helped the matter, and they have exasperated it for sure, but this is not industry based. It is personality based.

Most of the guys that pay these ridiculous rates have not hobbies much and do not realize that there is NO direct correlation between donation / allowance and level of service. Just because you pay 5/ hr does not mean you are going to get "upscale" and great service. They are also (sometimes not always) the type that do not have much game and have this stupid notion. That if you bargain or haggle. It will turn the woman off, I see this as a lack of experience and also a lack of confidence in themselves. This new breed of monger could be younger (but not necessarily) seems to be the new majority of the Seattle hobby scene. They do not mind paying whatever is asked for them and then smile after lackluster service and provide glowing reviews. By doing this they think they are feminists. The reality is they just (mostly) lack the confidence to talk, and mostly the experience to understand that every service industry, including this one, functions on demand and supply. Oh well tired of preaching this Morgan. There are chumps (young and old) they will continue to exist. The best we can do is to keep it real, post honest reviews and provide the information to show that prices do not equal service and hopefully they will learn and get more experienced over time.[/QUOTE]Well said.

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;5406713]While it is not only the "millennial simps who had helicopter moms" that have contributed to this problem. They definitely have propagated it. Towards the end of last year and first quarter of this year I did spend a lot of time on SA and really connected with a few women. When prices started going back up after the pandemic. Our conversations, invariably, moved over to their prices and strategy to get money using SA. What I learned from these women was that a lot of the men they were seeing were either small business owners, tech (of course) and the financial services (stock market) types. So yeah the millennials have not helped the matter, and they have exasperated it for sure, but this is not industry based. It is personality based.

Most of the guys that pay these ridiculous rates have not hobbies much and do not realize that there is NO direct correlation between donation / allowance and level of service. Just because you pay 5/ hr does not mean you are going to get "upscale" and great service. They are also (sometimes not always) the type that do not have much game and have this stupid notion. That if you bargain or haggle. It will turn the woman off, I see this as a lack of experience and also a lack of confidence in themselves. This new breed of monger could be younger (but not necessarily) seems to be the new majority of the Seattle hobby scene. They do not mind paying whatever is asked for them and then smile after lackluster service and provide glowing reviews. By doing this they think they are feminists. The reality is they just (mostly) lack the confidence to talk, and mostly the experience to understand that every service industry, including this one, functions on demand and supply. Oh well tired of preaching this Morgan. There are chumps (young and old) they will continue to exist. The best we can do is to keep it real, post honest reviews and provide the information to show that prices do not equal service and hopefully they will learn and get more experienced over time.[/QUOTE]Well said but you forgot one thing, The cost of pussy will always be the same. The quality of the women on the other hand that's where these Hoes get GPS from. The number of fat cows on other boards wanting 400 hr makes me laugh my ass off. I make good money and have paid 600 hr but she had the body of a supermodel and treated me like a king. If I'm paying for pussy she better be hotter than my wife. The lack luster service, well that can go both ways, I still say treat the girl with respect and it typically pays off. Hoe's that are lackluster you typically can tell during initial contact, then I just blow them off till I find a girl that actually enjoys what she does. The chumps that pay the inflated price for the fat cows drive up the cost for the hot hoes. Basic Bitches that see some fat ***** getting 600 an hour will go "Damn, simps pay that much for her. Fuck I'm way hotter" so she raises her rates. Its supply and demand.

I think that there are heck of a lot more girls who don't know how they are going to pay their rent (or car payment, or cell bill, or.) next week than there are Amazon Brogrammers getting paid 300 k. And there is a practical limit to how many of these girls any guy can have on rotation at a time.

There certainly is no shortage of decent-looking girls who know what they are there for and know how to get the job done at a decent price. So my advice is to block the ones who ask for crazy prices (or the ones who just seem plain crazy, also pretty common) and move on to the ones that are reasonable.

These days I am as frustrated with the girls who chicken out about the whole thing as I am about the girls who have an obnoxious sense of entitlement. Even there I just block them and move on.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5c40e77b-3748-429d-9ff7-8e5b29ba8cfd[/URL]

Pretty awesome when she comes through very freaky we were talking about doing a group thing also if anyone is interested she's okay with bb.

Also the Eviction Moratorium that has been in place since last year is about to expire at the end of the month. I suspect that prices will moderate and quality will go up dramatically as reality sets in.

[QUOTE=BigFella9;5408774][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5c40e77b-3748-429d-9ff7-8e5b29ba8cfd[/URL]

Pretty awesome when she comes through very freaky we were talking about doing a group thing also if anyone is interested she's okay with bb.[/QUOTE]How much did she charge you? She quoted me 4 bills.

Any experience with this one, appreciate any insights.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7f2ad471-17fc-4887-917b-645800d7a207[/URL]

Chatted with this one for a bit and if she was mobile I would of sampled.

She only wants to host at her place and seems 3-4 bills will let you in.

If someone takes the plunge please share!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9aa11722-1fe5-4c81-acc7-0cc3206233b4[/URL]

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5408763]These days I am as frustrated with the girls who chicken out about the whole thing as I am about the girls who have an obnoxious sense of entitlement.[/QUOTE]I've had about 5 ghost me in the last two weeks. We moved quickly to text (burner) and the conversation was going well and then POOF they are gone without any obvious reason. A couple were openly saying they were desperate for cash, the others we'd gotten as far as scheduling a M&G so I don't get it, but whatever.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5409708]Chatted with this one for a bit and if she was mobile I would of sampled.

She only wants to host at her place and seems 3-4 bills will let you in.

If someone takes the plunge please share!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9aa11722-1fe5-4c81-acc7-0cc3206233b4[/URL][/QUOTE]Talked to her a few months ago but didn't pull the trigger. She came off as very pro and I believe she required protection if I recall correctly.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5409772]I've had about 5 ghost me in the last two weeks. We moved quickly to text (burner) and the conversation was going well and then POOF they are gone without any obvious reason. A couple were openly saying they were desperate for cash, the others we'd gotten as far as scheduling a M&G so I don't get it, but whatever.[/QUOTE]Seems to be the norm these days. Can't decide if they are just flakey, they are scammers looking to get phone numbers, pics etc or someone else is coming in and making a ridiculous offer so they take the better deal. Probably a combination of all of the above.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33a3d2b3-6e12-4b9b-ad05-d5c55615b7b9[/URL]

Classic entitled response by her to my message: . Let's schedule a meet after I'm initially gifted.

I didn't even bother responding. Just blocked her.

[QUOTE=Twister100;5410097][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33a3d2b3-6e12-4b9b-ad05-d5c55615b7b9[/URL]

Classic entitled response by her to my message: . Let's schedule a meet after I'm initially gifted.

I didn't even bother responding. Just blocked her.[/QUOTE]LOL, proper response. Fucking unreal.

Though there's just as much possibility that "she" is a a bunch of hairy dudes in some slavic country scamming lonely simps

[QUOTE=Twister100;5410097][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/33a3d2b3-6e12-4b9b-ad05-d5c55615b7b9[/URL]

Classic entitled response by her to my message: . Let's schedule a meet after I'm initially gifted.

I didn't even bother responding. Just blocked her.[/QUOTE]Just to let you know. If you quickly report them and copy the part of the message with the report, they will be booted from the site. I believe when you report them, they are automatically blocked from you. I've met a few girls that were booted for asking for money before a meet (against their rules). They created new accounts, but eventually got the same treatment we'd get if we were booted.

Pass.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3e6d4dc7-c5d2-4132-bbab-b70720035418[/URL]

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5410136]Just to let you know. If you quickly report them and copy the part of the message with the report, they will be booted from the site. I believe when you report them, they are automatically blocked from you. I've met a few girls that were booted for asking for money before a meet (against their rules). They created new accounts, but eventually got the same treatment we'd get if we were booted.[/QUOTE]I report for requiring money up front and I report for "online only" seekers (take screenshot for evidence to upload at the time of reporting.

I don't know what, if anything, happens to them because it proactively blocks them.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/08686ef8-fad2-4496-8653-8d1c2d9b0ae1[/URL]

Potential scammer. Has a Portland number but when I chatted with her this morning and asked how she was doing, she said she was just getting off work. It could be she works the midnight shift but Europe is also about 8 hours ahead of us, so they would be getting off work as we get up.

I'm now about 95 percent sure I got banned from SA for reporting girls. So these days I just block them.

I also block girls who try to sell me pics, and girls who are obviously misrepresenting where they live to find ripe sucks (e. g. Saying they live in George, WA when they actually live in Georgia (the country), or saying they live in Odessa, WA when they actually live in Odessa, Ukraine -- I've ran into both).

In addition, if the vibes are bad or weird I just block them on general principle.

[QUOTE=LookingFwd;5410190]I report for requiring money up front and I report for "online only" seekers (take screenshot for evidence to upload at the time of reporting.

I don't know what, if anything, happens to them because it proactively blocks them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PoopyPenisFart;5405300]Okay boomer.[/QUOTE]This is EXACTLY why people have very little respect for and are quick to dismiss spoiled millennials, and the Gen Zers between 18-24. Not every millennial or Gen-Z person is spoiled, but a lot are. Most wouldn't know how to handle a real world problem because they can't "OK Boomer" their way out of one.


I'm definitely not in the boomer generation, but would love to see more of them take the same approach as Buzz Aldrin did when he knocked some young punk on his ass for being such a little prick.