The Woodshed

So for the record, I had to take a double-take after seeing this ad this evening on BP, LOL what are the chances.

[URL]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/jayse/9650722[/URL]

P.S. So I totally enjoyed myself.

[QUOTE=Jayse;2979148]So for the record, I had to take a double-take after seeing this ad this evening on BP, LOL what are the chances.

[URL]http://jacksonville.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/jayse/9650722[/URL]

P.S. So I totally enjoyed myself.[/QUOTE]You are much cuter and have much longer hair than I imagined.

[QUOTE=Admin2;2978650]
When you came here in 2004 and looked at this site for the very first time and saw;.
A2.[/QUOTE]Although it's probably irrelevant to anyone, is there a way to tell how long someone has been an active member of this forum? I think that I have been here since early 2004 (maybe sooner)? That would be cool if we could have our membership year listed under our little ribbon. Either way, thanks for all that you do Sir!

[QUOTE=Jactionville;2980027]Although it's probably irrelevant to anyone, is there a way to tell how long someone has been an active member of this forum? I think that I have been here since early 2004 (maybe sooner)? That would be cool if we could have our membership year listed under our little ribbon. Either way, thanks for all that you do Sir![/QUOTE]To All,

January 2004.

I am a new user to the WSG, I originally started looking at it because I will be taking a business trip to China. To my suprise I found that the site also had a lot to offer about Jacksonville. I want to thank all of you for your reports. With all that I read about Cinderella's I fell asleep about 1 PM Saturday and had a dream I stopped by the establishment. As I entered I saw three Dancers, A tall well stacked Blonde, an Older Brunette (long hair Brunette) and another Curly hair Brunette. I ordered a beer and after a few eye contacts with the Blonde I motioned for her to come speak with me. We had the normal conversation, how did you find out about this place, have you been in here before, etc. So in my dream I utilized all the INFO I had read on here and we were off to the VIP room. Again though while in VIP I had to convince her one more time my name was not LEO. I asked for the special and OH MY GOD! She's a PRO. I highly recommend her.

Again! Thanks to you all and I will be sure to help in posting.

Old School.

I believe this was the Blonde that also worked at UPS. Some of you older guys may remember her name.

I see that a post I made recently is embargoed awaiting moderator review. Ok fine, if you feel that is best. What occurred to me, that while I did improperly post on the BP girls page what should have been posted in this "fight" room is that the punishment is more on you than me.

I am sharing the occasional review or comment. No big deal. But for every real pain in the ass jerk you put on "delayed posting", it is you A2 that has increased your workload. I suppose it seems like a fitting "punishment" for the occasional stepping across the line or mis-posted entry but I am somewhat amazed that YOU are the one that gets the punishment and not the offender.

Perhaps some guys really get off seeing their avatar name up in lights immediately upon posting, but now they don't get that "rush". Never felt that way myself. So I guess what I am saying is this seems more a punishment to you than on me. Now I am not trying to be a big jerk, but it probably comes off that way anyhow, sorry about that, and I wish I had a better solution for you but I do not have a better solution to punish the scofflaws better.

Good luck out there.

P.S. I did see you finally sanctioned the loser who kept posting all his sad sack rip off stories but never named a real girl, the joker I got in trouble for calling BS on. . maybe you need a fiction thread, some of these guys seem to write bs for fun.

[blue]One persons "punishment" is another guys job security. I'm the only get paid to be here.

But lets take your premise. Every post where you start a fight causes 5-7 responses. It takes me 6-8 seconds to read your post, then less then a second to decide if it stays or goes. If I have to go to a thread and clean up some bullshit that takes me 4-5 minutes.

For me it's a win/win moderated guys secure my job and by having them moderated it saves me time.

Keep up the good work,

A2[/blue]

[QUOTE=New2Jax;2985235]I see that a post I made recently is embargoed awaiting moderator review. Ok fine, if you feel that is best. What occurred to me, that while I did improperly post on the BP girls page what should have been posted in this "fight" room is that the punishment is more on you than me.

I am sharing the occasional review or comment. No big deal. But for every real pain in the ass jerk you put on "delayed posting", it is you A2 that has increased your workload. I suppose it seems like a fitting "punishment" for the occasional stepping across the line or mis-posted entry but I am somewhat amazed that YOU are the one that gets the punishment and not the offender.

Perhaps some guys really get off seeing their avatar name up in lights immediately upon posting, but now they don't get that "rush". Never felt that way myself. So I guess what I am saying is this seems more a punishment to you than on me. Now I am not trying to be a big jerk, but it probably comes off that way anyhow, sorry about that, and I wish I had a better solution for you but I do not have a better solution to punish the scofflaws better.

Good luck out there.

P.S. I did see you finally sanctioned the loser who kept posting all his sad sack rip off stories but never named a real girl, the joker I got in trouble for calling BS on. . maybe you need a fiction thread, some of these guys seem to write bs for fun.

[blue]One persons "punishment" is another guys job security. I'm the only get paid to be here.

But lets take your premise. Every post where you start a fight causes 5-7 responses. It takes me 6-8 seconds to read your post, then less then a second to decide if it stays or goes. If I have to go to a thread and clean up some bullshit that takes me 4-5 minutes.

For me it's a win/win moderated guys secure my job and by having them moderated it saves me time.

Keep up the good work,

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Ok, your explanation makes sense. Glad you shared.

In the past couple of months several of my friends on usasg have contacted me via pm to advise caution and express concern over some of the choices I have made; unprotected sex, oral sex without a condom, daty, anal sex, sex with multiple partners at the same time. Some have advised caution regarding some of the providers I choose to engage in relations with. Some of you have thanked me for sharing. Others have given me a little shit. I am appreciative of all of you, and I expect nothing less regarding reaction to this post. Recently, I have been contacted by a couple of you expressing medical concerns following dreams with providers they have seen; some of which I have ranted and raved about profusely; two with gonorrhea, one with Chlamydia. Yes gentlemen, some among us are currently in treatment. Those of you that know me also know that I have a background in medicine. I promise I will never mention it again on public forum. I say it now because there are a couple of things many of us think we know and some of us are quite misinformed. Yes, and some, much like myself, know the risks and continue to make the choices we make. All of us have access to the internet; most of us realize that while there is a wealth of information to be garnered doing research on the internet, many of us do not realize all the misinformation and bullshit that is out there. On the topic of STD's to include gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, Chlamydia, and many others, there is too much misinformation. Here is the reality: any one of these STD's I have mentioned can be contracted through unprotected oral, anal, and vaginal sex. To be clear, if a provider has oral gonorrhea, for example, and gives you an uncovered BJ, you can easily contract gonorrhea. If, like me, you are a fan of daty, despite how clean smelling and sweet tasting that pussy might be, if the provider has vaginal gonorrhea, your going to get oral gonorrhea. Moreover, you go home and suck face with mama, you greatly risk passing the oral gonorrhea on to her. Additionally, If you put your finger in a providers orifice (pussy, ass, mouth) and then it shortly after ends up in your mouth, eyes, ass or on your cock you can get an STD. If you practice it safe with your provider and the condom comes off for a handjob finish, and she uses a hand that has been in contact with her pussy or her mouth, or if she uses spit for lubrication, you are at risk if she is infected. In each case, if one has a significant other at home, you can pass it on to your partner. All the bullshit about getting an uncovered blowjob is safe is just that, bullshit. If one is going to engage in this hobby, they need to do it with their eyes wide open. There are risks associated with our actions. It is all about cost benefit analysis! Having said all this, when one gets to be my age, despite an increase in libido, junior suffers a significant decrease in sensitivity. A blow job feels so much better uncovered; there is just something to be said for ejaculating deep in a providers throat vice a latex condom; vaginal and anal sex just feels so much better uncovered. The risks are astronomical. I must be a very lucky guy though, as most of the providers I see, many that I've written about, understand and sympathize with my age related issue. Consequently most of them, feeling sorry for me I guess, allow me unqualified unprotected access. I am just glad that of all the providers I see that normally require use of cover, most make exception for me and me alone. Are you fucking shitting me? Is it possible that some of us mongers are so naïve? Far too many of the BP providers are addicts; cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, dilaudid, some drugs I have never heard of. There is nothing some of these girls would not do for their next fix; nothing. I once provided medical care for an addict at a local facility in Jacksonville. After treatments she went to prison. Why? She sold her 3 year old daughter to her pimp for a two day supply of meth amphetamine. Guess the dude could not have children of his own and wanted to start a family? Yup I am sure that is what it was. Do you think for a moment a provider will advertise their HIV or hepatitis status? Not likely. What I find almost as disturbing is the fact that there are mongers in our community that know they have a medical issue, let it go untreated, and pass it along. That old adage what goes around comes around could not be more true than here. I am freaking myself out so bad here I am going to stop writing. I think I am going to call Aubrie; everything protected, no kissing, no daty, no touching of the breasts, no fiv. Probably my safest bet right now. Am wondering though, if I kick the donation up to twice her hourly recommendation do you think she might let me take off the protection for a little BBBJDTCIM and just a few minutes of grinding that sweet pussy on my face? Just had to ask. Sorry to be preaching to the proverbial choir. Be informed. Be safe.

[QUOTE=BearB;3001299]In the past couple of months several of my friends on usasg have contacted me via pm to advise caution and express concern over some of the choices I have made; unprotected sex, oral sex without a condom, daty, anal sex, sex with multiple partners at the same time. Some have advised caution regarding some of the providers I choose to engage in relations with. Some of you have thanked me for sharing. Others have given me a little shit. I am appreciative of all of you, and I expect nothing less regarding reaction to this post. Recently, I have been contacted by a couple of you expressing medical concerns following dreams with providers they have seen; some of which I have ranted and raved about profusely; two with gonorrhea, one with Chlamydia. Yes gentlemen, some among us are currently in treatment. Those of you that know me also know that I have a background in medicine. I promise I will never mention it again on public forum. I say it now because there are a couple of things many of us think we know and some of us are quite misinformed. Yes, and some, much like myself, know the risks and continue to make the choices we make. All of us have access to the internet; most of us realize that while there is a wealth of information to be garnered doing research on the internet, many of us do not realize all the misinformation and bullshit that is out there. On the topic of STD's to include gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, Chlamydia, and many others, there is too much misinformation. Here is the reality: any one of these STD's I have mentioned can be contracted through unprotected oral, anal, and vaginal sex. To be clear, if a provider has oral gonorrhea, for example, and gives you an uncovered BJ, you can easily contract gonorrhea. If, like me, you are a fan of daty, despite how clean smelling and sweet tasting that pussy might be, if the provider has vaginal gonorrhea, your going to get oral gonorrhea. Moreover, you go home and suck face with mama, you greatly risk passing the oral gonorrhea on to her. Additionally, If you put your finger in a providers orifice (pussy, ass, mouth) and then it shortly after ends up in your mouth, eyes, ass or on your cock you can get an STD. If you practice it safe with your provider and the condom comes off for a handjob finish, and she uses a hand that has been in contact with her pussy or her mouth, or if she uses spit for lubrication, you are at risk if she is infected. In each case, if one has a significant other at home, you can pass it on to your partner. All the bullshit about getting an uncovered blowjob is safe is just that, bullshit. If one is going to engage in this hobby, they need to do it with their eyes wide open. There are risks associated with our actions. It is all about cost benefit analysis! Having said all this, when one gets to be my age, despite an increase in libido, junior suffers a significant decrease in sensitivity. A blow job feels so much better uncovered; there is just something to be said for ejaculating deep in a providers throat vice a latex condom; vaginal and anal sex just feels so much better uncovered. The risks are astronomical. I must be a very lucky guy though, as most of the providers I see, many that I've written about, understand and sympathize with my age related issue. Consequently most of them, feeling sorry for me I guess, allow me unqualified unprotected access. I am just glad that of all the providers I see that normally require use of cover, most make exception for me and me alone. Are you fucking shitting me? Is it possible that some of us mongers are so nave? Far too many of the BP providers are addicts; cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, dilaudid, some drugs I have never heard of. There is nothing some of these girls would not do for their next fix; nothing. I once provided medical care for an addict at a local facility in Jacksonville. After treatments she went to prison. Why? She sold her 3 year old daughter to her pimp for a two day supply of meth amphetamine. Guess the dude could not have children of his own and wanted to start a family? Yup I am sure that is what it was. Do you think for a moment a provider will advertise their HIV or hepatitis status? Not likely. What I find almost as disturbing is the fact that there are mongers in our community that know they have a medical issue, let it go untreated, and pass it along. That old adage what goes around comes around could not be more true than here. I am freaking myself out so bad here I am going to stop writing. I think I am going to call Aubrie; everything protected, no kissing, no daty, no touching of the breasts, no fiv. Probably my safest bet right now. Am wondering though, if I kick the donation up to twice her hourly recommendation do you think she might let me take off the protection for a little BBBJDTCIM and just a few minutes of grinding that sweet pussy on my face? Just had to ask. Sorry to be preaching to the proverbial choir. Be informed. Be safe.[/QUOTE]But you are most likely to contract skin contact STD's like herpes, and genital warts. As far as HIV, while it can be contracted from engaging in this hobby, it's difficult for a man to contract it from a woman. And there is no documented cases at all, of a man contracting it from a BBBJ or DATY. That's not to say it isn't possible. I guess if you had open soars on your privates and she has open soars in her mouth and she gave you a BBBJ while being positive, you could contract it. HIV is a disease born and bred from filthy conditions, which is why it is so prevalent in Africa and among gay men. If anything, anal sex increases the chances. This is just based on the information I have read.

[QUOTE=Aint1;3001899]But you are most likely to contract skin contact STD's like herpes, and genital warts. As far as HIV, while it can be contracted from engaging in this hobby, it's difficult for a man to contract it from a woman. And there is no documented cases at all, of a man contracting it from a BBBJ or DATY. That's not to say it isn't possible. I guess if you had open soars on your privates and she has open soars in her mouth and she gave you a BBBJ while being positive, you could contract it. HIV is a disease born and bred from filthy conditions, which is why it is so prevalent in Africa and among gay men. If anything, anal sex increases the chances. This is just based on the information I have read.[/QUOTE]I recently heard about a dancer infecting a couple of dozen guys with HIV and then being told that she died from a drug overdoses. All of the younger dancers just want to fuck for the quick money so better to spend a little more on a nice escort sometimes. . I always take a couple of covers in with me whenever I get a VIP just out of caution. Katya is as safe as it gets while it's best sometimes to spend money on a escort.

[QUOTE=BearB;3001299]In the past couple of months several of my friends on usasg have contacted me via pm to advise caution and express concern over some of the choices I have made; unprotected sex, oral sex without a condom, daty, anal sex, sex with multiple partners at the same time. Some have advised caution regarding some of the providers I choose to engage in relations with. Some of you have thanked me for sharing. Others have given me a little shit. I am appreciative of all of you, and I expect nothing less regarding reaction to this post. Recently, I have been contacted by a couple of you expressing medical concerns following dreams with providers they have seen; some of which I have ranted and raved about profusely; two with gonorrhea, one with Chlamydia. Yes gentlemen, some among us are currently in treatment. Those of you that know me also know that I have a background in medicine. I promise I will never mention it again on public forum. I say it now because there are a couple of things many of us think we know and some of us are quite misinformed. Yes, and some, much like myself, know the risks and continue to make the choices we make. All of us have access to the internet; most of us realize that while there is a wealth of information to be garnered doing research on the internet, many of us do not realize all the misinformation and bullshit that is out there. On the topic of STD's to include gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, Chlamydia, and many others, there is too much misinformation. Here is the reality: any one of these STD's I have mentioned can be contracted through unprotected oral, anal, and vaginal sex. To be clear, if a provider has oral gonorrhea, for example, and gives you an uncovered BJ, you can easily contract gonorrhea. If, like me, you are a fan of daty, despite how clean smelling and sweet tasting that pussy might be, if the provider has vaginal gonorrhea, your going to get oral gonorrhea. Moreover, you go home and suck face with mama, you greatly risk passing the oral gonorrhea on to her. Additionally, If you put your finger in a providers orifice (pussy, ass, mouth) and then it shortly after ends up in your mouth, eyes, ass or on your cock you can get an STD. If you practice it safe with your provider and the condom comes off for a handjob finish, and she uses a hand that has been in contact with her pussy or her mouth, or if she uses spit for lubrication, you are at risk if she is infected. In each case, if one has a significant other at home, you can pass it on to your partner. All the bullshit about getting an uncovered blowjob is safe is just that, bullshit. If one is going to engage in this hobby, they need to do it with their eyes wide open. There are risks associated with our actions. It is all about cost benefit analysis! Having said all this, when one gets to be my age, despite an increase in libido, junior suffers a significant decrease in sensitivity. A blow job feels so much better uncovered; there is just something to be said for ejaculating deep in a providers throat vice a latex condom; vaginal and anal sex just feels so much better uncovered. The risks are astronomical. I must be a very lucky guy though, as most of the providers I see, many that I've written about, understand and sympathize with my age related issue. Consequently most of them, feeling sorry for me I guess, allow me unqualified unprotected access. I am just glad that of all the providers I see that normally require use of cover, most make exception for me and me alone. Are you fucking shitting me? Is it possible that some of us mongers are so nave? Far too many of the BP providers are addicts; cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, dilaudid, some drugs I have never heard of. There is nothing some of these girls would not do for their next fix; nothing. I once provided medical care for an addict at a local facility in Jacksonville. After treatments she went to prison. Why? She sold her 3 year old daughter to her pimp for a two day supply of meth amphetamine. Guess the dude could not have children of his own and wanted to start a family? Yup I am sure that is what it was. Do you think for a moment a provider will advertise their HIV or hepatitis status? Not likely. What I find almost as disturbing is the fact that there are mongers in our community that know they have a medical issue, let it go untreated, and pass it along. That old adage what goes around comes around could not be more true than here. I am freaking myself out so bad here I am going to stop writing. I think I am going to call Aubrie; everything protected, no kissing, no daty, no touching of the breasts, no fiv. Probably my safest bet right now. Am wondering though, if I kick the donation up to twice her hourly recommendation do you think she might let me take off the protection for a little BBBJDTCIM and just a few minutes of grinding that sweet pussy on my face? Just had to ask. Sorry to be preaching to the proverbial choir. Be informed. Be safe.[/QUOTE]I think too many of us lose sight of the fact that we are mongering on borrowed time. Health related or other reasons. We need reminders like this to bring us back to reality.

Thanks brother.

[QUOTE=BearB;3001299]In the past couple of months several of my friends on usasg have contacted me via pm to advise caution and express concern over some of the choices I have made; unprotected sex, oral sex without a condom, daty, anal sex, sex with multiple partners at the same time. Some have advised caution regarding some of the providers I choose to engage in relations with. Some of you have thanked me for sharing. Others have given me a little shit. I am appreciative of all of you, and I expect nothing less regarding reaction to this post. Recently, I have been contacted by a couple of you expressing medical concerns following dreams with providers they have seen; some of which I have ranted and raved about profusely; two with gonorrhea, one with Chlamydia. Yes gentlemen, some among us are currently in treatment. Those of you that know me also know that I have a background in medicine. I promise I will never mention it again on public forum. I say it now because there are a couple of things many of us think we know and some of us are quite misinformed. Yes, and some, much like myself, know the risks and continue to make the choices we make. All of us have access to the internet; most of us realize that while there is a wealth of information to be garnered doing research on the internet, many of us do not realize all the misinformation and bullshit that is out there. On the topic of STD's to include gonorrhea, syphilis, herpes, Chlamydia, and many others, there is too much misinformation. Here is the reality: any one of these STD's I have mentioned can be contracted through unprotected oral, anal, and vaginal sex. To be clear, if a provider has oral gonorrhea, for example, and gives you an uncovered BJ, you can easily contract gonorrhea. If, like me, you are a fan of daty, despite how clean smelling and sweet tasting that pussy might be, if the provider has vaginal gonorrhea, your going to get oral gonorrhea. Moreover, you go home and suck face with mama, you greatly risk passing the oral gonorrhea on to her. Additionally, If you put your finger in a providers orifice (pussy, ass, mouth) and then it shortly after ends up in your mouth, eyes, ass or on your cock you can get an STD. If you practice it safe with your provider and the condom comes off for a handjob finish, and she uses a hand that has been in contact with her pussy or her mouth, or if she uses spit for lubrication, you are at risk if she is infected. In each case, if one has a significant other at home, you can pass it on to your partner. All the bullshit about getting an uncovered blowjob is safe is just that, bullshit. If one is going to engage in this hobby, they need to do it with their eyes wide open. There are risks associated with our actions. It is all about cost benefit analysis! Having said all this, when one gets to be my age, despite an increase in libido, junior suffers a significant decrease in sensitivity. A blow job feels so much better uncovered; there is just something to be said for ejaculating deep in a providers throat vice a latex condom; vaginal and anal sex just feels so much better uncovered. The risks are astronomical. I must be a very lucky guy though, as most of the providers I see, many that I've written about, understand and sympathize with my age related issue. Consequently most of them, feeling sorry for me I guess, allow me unqualified unprotected access. I am just glad that of all the providers I see that normally require use of cover, most make exception for me and me alone. Are you fucking shitting me? Is it possible that some of us mongers are so nave? Far too many of the BP providers are addicts; cocaine, heroin, crystal meth, dilaudid, some drugs I have never heard of. There is nothing some of these girls would not do for their next fix; nothing. I once provided medical care for an addict at a local facility in Jacksonville. After treatments she went to prison. Why? She sold her 3 year old daughter to her pimp for a two day supply of meth amphetamine. Guess the dude could not have children of his own and wanted to start a family? Yup I am sure that is what it was. Do you think for a moment a provider will advertise their HIV or hepatitis status? Not likely. What I find almost as disturbing is the fact that there are mongers in our community that know they have a medical issue, let it go untreated, and pass it along. That old adage what goes around comes around could not be more true than here. I am freaking myself out so bad here I am going to stop writing. I think I am going to call Aubrie; everything protected, no kissing, no daty, no touching of the breasts, no fiv. Probably my safest bet right now. Am wondering though, if I kick the donation up to twice her hourly recommendation do you think she might let me take off the protection for a little BBBJDTCIM and just a few minutes of grinding that sweet pussy on my face? Just had to ask. Sorry to be preaching to the proverbial choir. Be informed. Be safe.[/QUOTE]I have certainly become more careful the past few months. The reason is I became pretty surprised how many providers encouraged me to go BB. My thought was, as BearB mentioned, how many of my monger bros and these providers are spreading Gono and Chlamydia around. A monger bro in confidence told me that he caught an STD and his balls got swollen up! He said it was painful and even had blood in his semen! He also mentioned how some of these STDs are becoming resistant to antibiotics.

I am now managing my risk Vs reward scenario a bit better. Not preaching to anyone, as everyone makes their own choices and lives with the consequences.

[QUOTE=WhiteNite2000;3001811]I was told by girls that if their clients finished their business in an average timeframe, say 5 minutes, and you go over that average time (despite the fact that you paid for 30 minutes), they will start the "cum baby" bullshit. Sometimes when I ask a girl, in a discreet kind of way, if they rush clients out before they get their full time, they usually go silent on me. I guess they say I might be one of those marathon runners! LOL.[/QUOTE]You must always remember that a providers pussy is their money maker and it does have a daily shelf life. Abuse it for too long and they are literally out of business for a period of time or have to suffer through some pain servicing other clients. Now anal is a whole other matter all together, I've found that girls that take it in the ass can go for a much longer time then those that don't. That's one of the main reasons why anal has become a favorite activity of mine. JD.

[QUOTE=JaxDog;3000639]I've posted about heroin / opiate addiction before but these deaths truly bring the situation into extreme focus. This drug is dangerous, it's become so popular, epidemic really, it's fairly inexpensive and the potency so great that if your using it's just a matter of time before you overdose. This situation has become so serious / deadly there's a number of state's that are allowing the selling of Narcam, an opiate antidote, over the counter in drug stores. I know there are many mongers that don't give a rats ass what happens to providers they frequent but I for one do care. I find heroin addiction to be troublesome and disheartening on so many levels. I know there's no easy answer, we mongers act as enablers, paying these women for their services just helps them complete the cycle of addiction. I guess in a way we enable each other, we all have our own demons to deal with. Bottom line is can the USA community help in any way? I'm not sure other than speaking openly about what we see and reporting it back here as many of us are already doing. If anyone has any legitimate and hopefully helpful suggestions I for one would like to hear them. JD.[/QUOTE]Really want to go there JD? Self reflection is a dangerous thing, and it rarely leaves us feeling better about ourselves. I, like you, really care about some of the young ladies I have met in this hobby; many of them, in fact. I have fallen in love, in various aspects, with a few of them. The help I have tried to render to a couple has been to no avail. I really wish I could wave a magic wand and make all of bad in their lives go away. Many of them are gone now; a whole hell of a lot more than the 25 that we have read about in Jacksonville over the past year. You probably know as well if not better than me, that caring too much has its inherent dangers. Remember that old fucked up question: what came first, the chicken or the egg? I ask, what came first: the hooker or the John? Does one exist without the other? Who really enables who? I would submit to you this: for every provider out there that is an addict, there are dozens of Johns that suffer to an equal or greater extent a different type of addiction. And while one might argue otherwise, I would submit their addiction can be no less totally destructive. Of course that does not apply to any of our monger friends on usasg?? None of us would engage in such risky behavior that could lead to the loss of our friends, families, our jobs, result in us ending up in jail, or succumbing to a disease that we refuse to acknowledge or seek help for. I would bet most of us on this forum would argue we are too smart to be lured onto such a destructive path. Take me for example. If you think for a moment that the lure of a beautiful, sweet smelling, sweet tasting young lady with a perfectly shaped ass, breasts, and a personality to boot, a girl that will let me bust one off in her ass and then DT me to a second orgasm down her beautiful throat, you would be wrong. No, that is not me. I would never drive an hour in one direction in pursuit of a fresh piece of ass. I would not wait in a parking lot for an hour or more waiting for my soon to be latest conquest to finish with the piece of shit John she is currently banging so she can accommodate me. Unprotected sex? I would not consider it. Take time off work for a mid day rendevous? No way. Run a little short on money to pay bills this month to accommodate a $250 donation to a good cause? Never! Catch an STD? Will never happen to me. Wife finds out about my hobby? Arrest? Fired from job? We can deny it all day long, but many of us are in fact addicts. And to be sure, the addiction, is potentially no less of a problem than that of alcohol, crystal meth, heroin and the many others. Hell, like me, I would bet you are familiar with a couple of mongers that have been exposed in this hobby and have chosen the easy way out! Sickeningly sad, but true. Until one hits bottom, recognizes that their lives are being destroyed by the addiction and actually reaches out for help, I fear there is little that can be done. Intervention, therapy and rehabilitation just do not work if the addict is not a willing participant. I've administered narcan intravenously to several addicts brought into local emergency rooms in drug induced comas. The reversal effect is almost immediate and dramatic. Have had the same individuals present to the ER a week later with the same problem. Some don't make it. Never a pretty site. One can counsel all day long about the consequences of our choices, but until another wants and is willing to listen we cannot help. We will never eradicate this age old problem. If every one on this forum quit the hobby today we would probably not put a dent in most providers business, but I do wonder. For me personally, I know I can not solve all the woes of the world. Where I differ from many though, is I believe in my heart if I can make a difference for even one person, whether it be a patient, a provider, or a monger, it is time and effort well spent. I would like to think I could make better choices, and encourage providers to do the same. You know exactly what I am talking about. I have been a hobbiest for about 45 years now, and I still find myself saying the same things. I need to make better choices and encourage providers to do the same. One thing I have committed to doing based on recent events is to walk from providers that are high or drunk. If drug paraphernalia are present in the room I am going to walk. If big brother is lurking I am going to walk. If the provider has a hint of recent track marks I am going to walk. If uncovered services are offered to me I might just walk. The last one for me poses significant challenge. Will just have to see where it goes. Having said all that, I am not ready to leave the hobby. It has always been an adrenaline rush for me, a high in its own right. I love the variety, the challenge, and all the obvious perks associated with being in the presence of an uninhibited provider. We are all dogs JD and far too many of us just cannot help ourselves. I would argue it is in our nature. Like you though I am a bit sickened by the recent passing of some of our old "young" friends. Fuck! To think I could have contributed even an iota is nauseating. That said, I am so fucking pissed that Aubri's voicemail box is full. I so want to rest my balls on her beautiful chin. I am a sick fuck. At least I acknowledge it.

Good discussion on STD's. I'll add my two cents by saying that I read that certain std's have a certain % of people where you are asymptomatic. Meaning you have it and NO SYMPTOMS. As for me I'm weighing doing a bi-annual test just for the hell of it.

[QUOTE=ZLicker;3002195]I recently heard about a dancer infecting a couple of dozen guys with HIV and then being told that she died from a drug overdoses. All of the younger dancers just want to fuck for the quick money so better to spend a little more on a nice escort sometimes. . I always take a couple of covers in with me whenever I get a VIP just out of caution. Katya is as safe as it gets while it's best sometimes to spend money on a escort.[/QUOTE]I am a BJ man. LOL. Contracting anything serious from that is practically nill. LOL.