"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4450290]Think of it as "Sure Thing" Dating. Pussy is yours to lose.

It just like regular dating -- show interest, be respectful, compliment her -- but on a much more accelerated time frame.[/QUOTE]I've really learned that the key to this whole game is to be quick. If you master the art of sealing the deal quickly without seeming like you're being too pushy you're golden at this game. My target age I search for is 18-26 and what I've learned is that most of the 18-20 y / o's are extremely hesitant to set up any kind of meeting and almost all of them just want to sell pics. I've tried hard to convince a few to meet with zero success even when offering very generous compensation. Once you get over that age range it's like shooting fish in a barrel. The hardest part is weeding out the pros and UTR's from the actual SB's. I met with 3 last week and two of them are absolutely amazing. Money is the only thing limiting me at this point as I've set a limit because this hobby can be compulsive.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4449827]This one needed $300 within an hour and a half of me speaking to her to be able to stay in her apt after her landlord found out she had dogs lmao. Got to love the originality though.[/QUOTE]Think of the dogs!

This is a reminder that some SBs will stoop to any low to scam SDs.

Never believe anything a SB tells you.

If you don't see the P, don't pull out your wallet.

[QUOTE=Truncated;4449630]That's the thing about Seeking.

No matter how good your game is in real life, playing the SA game is totally different.

Once you learn about the scammers and rinsers, you need to understand how to be fair and reasonable with SBs who are new or old to the sugar bowl.
[/QUOTE]Honestly, my game is exactly the same with Seeking and I shoot nearly 95% from the field. Very rarely do I get to a M&G and have them not want to find a FC pretty quickly. And I will NEVER understand how guys get scammed in the sugar bowl. They're so easy to spot.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5a41ea39-2e66-4c4a-8e5b-efe6b3ce95d2[/URL]

Started chatting with her a day or two ago. This morning got her to the point where she's cool with chatting via Kik. I asked her screen name on Kik and it's "Fellatiolove" so I'm thinking ooh yeah, This is going to be a fun one. Not so much. Here's a summary of the conversation after the pleasantries were out of the way.

Me: so what are you looking for?

Her: A sugar daddy that can spoil me on a consistent basis.

Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end.

Her: Someone who can afford a weekly allowance.

Me: Ok, well that's the whole premise to the website / Sugar daddy concept. The older established man pays the younger hot female a agreed upon fee between the two. But you don't get paid just for looking pretty and talking to me. You got to give to get.

Her: Sure. Once I feel that you can financially spoil me on a consistent basis.

You don't just get laid because you can treat one time.

Me: actually that's exactly how it works.

Her: Up to you if you want to learn more about me. .

Half hr later after no response from me.

Her: well I'm not really sure what you are looking for it but thanks for your time.

Her: Plus my pay per meet starts at 400.

Clearly she needs an education on how this works, but its not going to be me. Don't waste your time gentleman.

Attached is her private pics. Pretty easy on the eyes.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4453995][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5a41ea39-2e66-4c4a-8e5b-efe6b3ce95d2[/URL]

Started chatting with her a day or two ago. This morning got her to the point where she's cool with chatting via Kik. I asked her screen name on Kik and it's "Fellatiolove" so I'm thinking ooh yeah, This is going to be a fun one. Not so much. Here's a summary of the conversation after the pleasantries were out of the way.

Me: so what are you looking for?

Her: A sugar daddy that can spoil me on a consistent basis.

Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end.

Her: Someone who can afford a weekly allowance.[/QUOTE]Yea had convo with her total waste of time I've found with most of them if they want to talk on kik or just email it's a waste we have monger numbers and they have there ho numbers its doesn't take any work to get one LOL.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4453995]Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end.

Her: Someone who can afford a weekly allowance.

Me: Ok, well that's the whole premise to the website / Sugar daddy concept. The older established man pays the younger hot female a agreed upon fee between the two. But you don't get paid just for looking pretty and talking to me. You got to give to get.[/QUOTE]No offense intended but I can tell you right off the bat that an overly direct approach like this is going to result in side effects that are considered undesirable by most SDs. Asking them to pre-agree to sex before they've met you is going to preclude an entire category of POTS from ever wanting to meet you. Being too direct, and talking to them like a subordinate will also put you quickly into the "ghost him before we get started" category with some girls. Pros will agree to banging a guy they haven't met, but even then being too direct or if they think you're being arrogant, it's just going to result in being over-quoted. A lot of women want to be dominated but they don't want to see that side of you until they feel more comfortable. Being a bit charming and tactful will get you way farther toward getting these girls into the F&C for not much money. All women admire those traits in men and if you exhibit them you will get much more of what you really want (cheap pussy).

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4453995][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5a41ea39-2e66-4c4a-8e5b-efe6b3ce95d2[/URL]

Started chatting with her a day or two ago. This morning got her to the point where she's cool with chatting via Kik. I asked her screen name on Kik and it's "Fellatiolove" so I'm thinking ooh yeah, This is going to be a fun one. Not so much. Here's a summary of the conversation after the pleasantries were out of the way.

Me: so what are you looking for?

Her: A sugar daddy that can spoil me on a consistent basis.

Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end..[/QUOTE]I'd probably pay $400 to spend a few hours with those.

[QUOTE=Truncated;4454546]I'd probably pay $400 to spend a few hours with those.[/QUOTE]Looks like that would be a lot of fun.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4448189]Who ever did this needs to get a fucking grip. Do you think for a second that this got you anything with the girl? If anything she lost the little respect she had for you and know you as her little b1tch moving forward. A guy that does this much to get in her good grace is a chump in her eyes. You think advertising your chump status gets you mileage with girls?

Some guys are so hopeless it's downright pathetic.[/QUOTE]What a pathetic loser that guy is. Total gimp. Only good news is I'm sure chicks fuck his dumb*ss over on the regular. Pussy.

If you're 99% probably should just put it out there honestly.

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4453995][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5a41ea39-2e66-4c4a-8e5b-efe6b3ce95d2[/URL]

Started chatting with her a day or two ago. This morning got her to the point where she's cool with chatting via Kik. I asked her screen name on Kik and it's "Fellatiolove" so I'm thinking ooh yeah, This is going to be a fun one. Not so much. Here's a summary of the conversation after the pleasantries were out of the way.

Me: so what are you looking for?

Her: A sugar daddy that can spoil me on a consistent basis.

Me: So you're looking for something physical in return for $, or no?

Her: I'm I'm not aware of the nature of the arrangement near seeking I preferably like to talk in person about details but as far as I know I'm looking for someone who can cater to my needs on my end.

Her: Someone who can afford a weekly allowance.

Me: Ok, well that's the whole premise to the website / Sugar daddy concept. The older established man pays the younger hot female a agreed upon fee between the two. But you don't get paid just for looking pretty and talking to me. You got to give to get.

Her: Sure. Once I feel that you can financially spoil me on a consistent basis.

You don't just get laid because you can treat one time.

Me: actually that's exactly how it works.

Her: Up to you if you want to learn more about me. .

Half hr later after no response from me.

Her: well I'm not really sure what you are looking for it but thanks for your time.

Her: Plus my pay per meet starts at 400.

Clearly she needs an education on how this works, but its not going to be me. Don't waste your time gentleman.

Attached is her private pics. Pretty easy on the eyes.[/QUOTE]So I saw this post earlier this morning so I decided to send a note. After some back and forth we had a M&G this afternoon, can be had for less than $400 per but your allowance just need to be creatively delivered.

[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;4455176]So I saw this post earlier this morning so I decided to send a note. After some back and forth we had a M&G this afternoon, can be had for less than $400 per but your allowance just need to be creatively delivered.[/QUOTE]Props to you for making more progress / having more patience than I did. She made it sound as if she expected $$ up front just for meeting before any intimacy happened. Did you still get that same impression after meeting? How's she look in person?

So after seeing my pic I just had a pit tell me that I am well know for f ing girls and then making up excuses why I can't see them anymore and to stay away for her. That definitely freaked me out, is anyone aware of way these girls share info?

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4457809]So after seeing my pic I just had a pit tell me that I am well know for f ing girls and then making up excuses why I can't see them anymore and to stay away for her. That definitely freaked me out, is anyone aware of way these girls share info?[/QUOTE]I had something along the same lines today, I started messaging this SB this morning she asks me if I'm lucky for an arrangement, I replied yes and she says she wants to meet in a public place so that we can discuss the details of the arrangement that we wouldn't want to put down in text. I offer to text at least the minor details to see if we're even in the same ballpark, plus I wanted to get her on text because she didn't have any face pics posted on the website and I wanted to at least see her face before I agreed to meet up in public. So she replies that we can quickly talk on the phone to plan to meet and mentioned that then when we meet we up we can talk about the details and says "Nobody wants to leave a digital trail of "money-talk. " That would be pretty stupid. " So I reply cool, I'm at work so I can't talk right now but I'd ping her later when I was available. That was around 9:30 am. I then plan to call her on my lunch so I go to the site planning to message her that I'm available for a call and I have this message from her in my inbox. Keep in mind all my communication with her up to this point was fairly normal. Then this came out of nowhere. And yes, she blocked me.

"You're one of those psychos from that sadistic Forum. Haven't you idiots figured out that we read that thing to make sure that we're not on there being defamed? Where do you think we learn about all of your little tricks and tips? Some girls go as far as to put an account of their own on there to pretend to be one of you predators just to gather more information on you. Some of those SA girls even go as far as to answer one of your messages and pretend to not-know who you are and set up a M&G so that we can get a good picture of your face to put on our colleges' internet Predator List. How stupid do you have to be to think you're anonymous? As soon as you run your mouth about an experience, the girl knows it's you! She then goes on social media to warn all of the other girls on SA and gives out your username on that US forum for all to read. You now have a history of committing defamation with a long digital Trail. Everything you've ever typed is online forever for your entire Community to see. Why do you idiot criminals always like to type out your crimes? You are a danger to the community. You are defaming young women and costing them their careers; their relationships with their families; you are getting them kicked out of school and destroying their entire lives with your fake stories. There are already defamation and revenge-porn lawsuits happening from this forum. What in the world would make you idiots think that the girls would not band together to protect ourselves from internet Predators like you? We know how desperately you douchebags are trying to hack into our Facebook accounts so you can stalk us and our family and friends. Wake up from your fantasy world! You are hunting and hurting real people who live in your own community and not one of you is anonymous. "

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4457809]So after seeing my pic I just had a pit tell me that I am well know for f ing girls and then making up excuses why I can't see them anymore and to stay away for her. That definitely freaked me out, is anyone aware of way these girls share info?[/QUOTE]I have linked four SBs to working at the same restaurant in 2018. One of those I have linked to three more. Since I have seen three of the seven, I would assume that all of them could know about me. Although none know that I have connected all of them. But if you are going to post a group pic with three of them together and have another like the Instagram pic, you got to think someone is going to figure it out. Throw in still viewable FB accounts but inactive since going off to to college, with work history and you have a match.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4457809]So after seeing my pic I just had a pit tell me that I am well know for f ing girls and then making up excuses why I can't see them anymore and to stay away for her. That definitely freaked me out, is anyone aware of way these girls share info?[/QUOTE]Most of the new SA girls were told about SA by old SA girls. Just like a strip club, the old girls tell the newbies who's a regular, who's cheap, who fks-and-dumps, etc. Mostly at their schools.