"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;4435395]I have met one and after we get on the bed she said she does not do any BJ at all Others want only BJ with condom so I now ask the question when texting if they will do a oral without a condom and if they say yes I then ask them if they are on birth control. Saves a lot of money and headaches!!

Thanks CM.[/QUOTE]In five years on Seeking, I haven't had a SB use a condom for a BJ. Only a few that were not cim. All of that is discussed before we met at the FC. When I first started in this hobby I ran across too many who showed up at the FC with tampons in or saying they had just started their period. Now I ask about when their next period is and if they are allergic to latex condoms. For some that brings the impending reality of what it means to be a SB and they back out. Better get those filtered out asap. Too many others to pursue to be wasting time.

Has anyone else experienced when you search Seeking and go from one page to another it can go from online hours ago to online weeks ago? I just did a search and it went from showing the ladies online 5 hours ago and the next page showed 1 week ago.

[QUOTE=JustLonely;4435657]In five years on Seeking, I haven't had a SB use a condom for a BJ. Only a few that were not cim. All of that is discussed before we met at the FC. When I first started in this hobby I ran across too many who showed up at the FC with tampons in or saying they had just started their period. Now I ask about when their next period is and if they are allergic to latex condoms. For some that brings the impending reality of what it means to be a SB and they back out. Better get those filtered out asap. Too many others to pursue to be wasting time.[/QUOTE]While I know the question is sort of a pretext for the conversation, there is a condom that is not made from natural latex, it is synthetic and does not have the allergens / contaminants in latex that actually cause the problem. I use them because I have sensitivity to latex.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4436304]Has anyone else experienced when you search Seeking and go from one page to another it can go from online hours ago to online weeks ago? I just did a search and it went from showing the ladies online 5 hours ago and the next page showed 1 week ago.[/QUOTE]The status on Seeking is totally unreliable.

If a SB has the Seeking app installed on their phone, it will often show them as online constantly unless they close the app fully. In other words, a SB who appears to be online right now, may not have even looked at the site in days. From what I can tell, the site then randomly changes login status times if you use another device to login.

Another fun 18 yo that relocated to VCU from NOVA. Highly recommend. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/68e2343b-5fdc-4f70-9ddc-90b04d7351f7[/URL].

Following the M&G I posted about the other day, I had her in the FC today. However, I had another M&G first. This was an Asian 27 YO, I surmised she wasn't a hottie from texts, but figured to be low mileage. Admitted to not having sex for 14 mos, w / a BF overseas. An odd duck, but that's hardly rare. Trying to set up the meet, she wants time to get ready after she tans at her pool. I suggest just coming over and hanging there; she provides her address. In her bikini, she's not slim, but nice boobs. We chat a while, so she can figure out I'm not a criminal, but I want to move on to my main event for the day. I decide to try something and ask my standard question, 'are you the sort of woman who likes her man to be in the lead?' and she replies bluntly that she's submissive. I move over to sit on her chaise and touch her lightly all over as we chat, including the crotch of her bottoms. She asks flat out if I have to leave right away, I have 20 minutes and tell her I didn't plan for anything, but she takes me to her apartment anyway. Kissing on her bed, and kissing her neck (she texted me she favors this) wind her up. I pull off the bikini and start finger-banging her (she also asked for this by text). A hot 15 minutes, she's panting and exhausted, and I have a wet spot on my pants leg from splashes from her cooze. I don't have the time, equipment, or stamina to f* her, though, so I take off. I left her a $25 gift card, but that's the only sugar I'd ever provide. I'd only return to f* her for charity.

I get to the FC w / my Latina spinner, she's as cute as ever. Once on the bed, I get into eating her, and she does have the sweetest / prettiest p* She's wildly wound up, so I drag her to the edge of the bed and hang her head off so I can f* her mouth like it's her p* When I get out the equipment, she wants doggie and assumes the position right in front of me on the bed. Oh, the view!! I knew this was ill-advised, doggie is too fast for me, but she was so cute and I thought I could pace myself. However, her excited gyrations and "F* me daddy!"s did their worst, and I had to finish. In the interlude, we cuddled and napped, and resurrection proved possible. Second round she gave me the pick, and I went for simple mish. Then I pulled her legs up and held them over one shoulder. After a while it became apparent to me that I'd never get there, too bad b / c she wanted me to cum on her perky little tits. Perhaps I should have flipped her and done her doggie again. My damage? She asked for a Cinderella makeup kit. No, I am not making this up. From her favorite cosmetic maker, pricey actually. I wasn't going to be able to get this on the needed time scale, but I provided the cash for her to get it herself; her birthday is tomorrow. This girl should be available to me for $ + a room, which she booked in this case. I'll definitely repeat.

All in all, a pretty good day. FFA.

So my paid acct ended 9/5/19 and the very next day I receive a message from a sb I had written 3 months ago and she just answered, after my paid acct just ended so I can't read it. Now it is possible that since she is a college girl who is now back from summer break that she would just now be answering me. BUT it seems fishy and makes me wonder if SA might actually be the one sending me a message through her profile just to get me to pay up again so I can read it.

[QUOTE=BagIt;4441275]So my paid acct ended 9/5/19 and the very next day I receive a message from a sb I had written 3 months ago and she just answered, after my paid acct just ended so I can't read it. Now it is possible that since she is a college girl who is now back from summer break that she would just now be answering me. BUT it seems fishy and makes me wonder if SA might actually be the one sending me a message through her profile just to get me to pay up again so I can read it.[/QUOTE]Or hers could be a bot account used to "chum the waters" and keep guys interested. I would be very surprised if they faked a reply from a real person; that seems risky and needlessly complicated when they have complete control of the platform and can create accounts at will. I think your instincts are spot on. It feels like a tease to get your wallet open. But also I suspect EVERYTHING.

[QUOTE=Tidad;4441290]Or hers could be a bot account used to "chum the waters" and keep guys interested. I would be very surprised if they faked a reply from a real person; that seems risky and needlessly complicated when they have complete control of the platform and can create accounts at will. I think your instincts are spot on. It feels like a tease to get your wallet open. But also I suspect EVERYTHING.[/QUOTE]So SA can create a bot acct and reply to me through it as though she is real? I can't read her message because my paid acct ran out the day before she or the SA bot messaged me. Suspicious!

[QUOTE=BagIt;4441299]So SA can create a bot acct and reply to me through it as though she is real? I can't read her message because my paid acct ran out the day before she or the SA bot messaged me. Suspicious![/QUOTE]Of course it doesn't have to be just a bot. Without a doubt the sys admin can create accounts to engage w subscribers and keep them coming back. Paying subscribers (and marketing info) are the basis of their business model.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4439825]Following the M&G I posted about the other day, I had her in the FC today. However, I had another M&G first. This was an Asian 27 YO, I surmised she wasn't a hottie from texts, but figured to be low mileage. Admitted to not having sex for 14 mos, w / a BF overseas. An odd duck, but that's hardly rare. Trying to set up the meet, she wants time to get ready after she tans at her pool. I suggest just coming over and hanging there; she provides her address. In her bikini, she's not slim, but nice boobs. We chat a while, so she can figure out I'm not a criminal, but I want to move on to my main event for the day. I decide to try something and ask my standard question, 'are you the sort of woman who likes her man to be in the lead?' and she replies bluntly that she's submissive. I move over to sit on her chaise and touch her lightly all over as we chat, including the crotch of her bottoms. She asks flat out if I have to leave right away, I have 20 minutes and tell her I didn't plan for anything, but she takes me to her apartment anyway. Kissing on her bed, and kissing her neck (she texted me she favors this) wind her up. I pull off the bikini and start finger-banging her (she also asked for this by text). A hot 15 minutes, she's panting and exhausted, and I have a wet spot on my pants leg from splashes from her cooze. I don't have the time, equipment, or stamina to f* her, though, so I take off. I left her a $25 gift card, but that's the only sugar I'd ever provide. I'd only return to f* her for charity.

I get to the FC w / my Latina spinner, she's as cute as ever. Once on the bed, I get into eating her, and she does have the sweetest / prettiest p* She's wildly wound up, so I drag her to the edge of the bed and hang her head off so I can f* her mouth like it's her p* When I get out the equipment, she wants doggie and assumes the position right in front of me on the bed. Oh, the view!! I knew this was ill-advised, doggie is too fast for me, but she was so cute and I thought I could pace myself. However, her excited gyrations and "F* me daddy!"s did their worst, and I had to finish. In the interlude, we cuddled and napped, and resurrection proved possible. Second round she gave me the pick, and I went for simple mish. Then I pulled her legs up and held them over one shoulder. After a while it became apparent to me that I'd never get there, too bad b / c she wanted me to cum on her perky little tits. Perhaps I should have flipped her and done her doggie again. My damage? She asked for a Cinderella makeup kit. No, I am not making this up. From her favorite cosmetic maker, pricey actually. I wasn't going to be able to get this on the needed time scale, but I provided the cash for her to get it herself; her birthday is tomorrow. This girl should be available to me for $ + a room, which she booked in this case. I'll definitely repeat.

All in all, a pretty good day. FFA.[/QUOTE]How you find the chicks.

[QUOTE=BagIt;4441275]So my paid acct ended 9/5/19 and the very next day I receive a message from a sb I had written 3 months ago and she just answered, after my paid acct just ended so I can't read it. Now it is possible that since she is a college girl who is now back from summer break that she would just now be answering me. BUT it seems fishy and makes me wonder if SA might actually be the one sending me a message through her profile just to get me to pay up again so I can read it.[/QUOTE]Just one more data point. My paid subscription ran out last week. I had left some messages for some girls who hadn't replied. Nobody has messaged me since.

[QUOTE=Ricrun;4441982]How you find the chicks.[/QUOTE]Well, a few details. I am in southern CA, there are lotsa POT SBs here. I send a ridiculous # of initial messages when I have a membership. I find it obsessive to be active on the site and only do a month at a time. My profile is deactivated now, but I am following up w / dozens of contacts I made when on the site. I've been on SA for 2+ years, there's nothing like experience to judge who is likely to be receptive to my situation. W / an SO, I don't have the flexibility of a lot of single guys. Can't really do the regular dates or 'arm-candy' some of these girls want. Of course, given that I am the title of a Beatles song, none of these girls would want to be seen w / me on a regular date anyway. That doesn't mean they don't want to f* me, though. That is something I have definitely learned from the site, and I have no hesitation to send my real photo (not a dinosaur) once I have established some basic trust.

On the other hand, sometimes I try to reach for something aspirational. I have lunch set up w / a model-beautiful tall blond Tuesday, single mom. I am sure she's sex-starved, she can barely find time to have lunch w / me. Whether I can get her for my $ and make the logistics work, who knows. However, I am a risk / reward guy, and the reward here would be probably my biggest ever, so I am willing to extend myself.

[QUOTE=HabsBurg;4442030]Just one more data point. My paid subscription ran out last week. I had left some messages for some girls who hadn't replied. Nobody has messaged me since.[/QUOTE]I had a back-and-forth messaging with a SB in late May that died off with her not responding, never got off the site and onto texting. I cancelled my paid membership in July and literally the next day I saw that I had a message from her which I obviously couldn't read. I re-upped so that I could, and the message was "hey sorry I never got back to you, still interested in meeting?" so I responded in the affirmative and never heard back. Mission accomplished to get another month out of me, fortunately I have enough options to stay entertained for awhile until they dry up.

Maybe real maybe not but once she asked to get an I'd through her managers site I stopped: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e1918c54-8c21-4e1a-a271-64d53e23f4c5[/URL].

What is that anyway??