"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4429591]So I found this chick on AM up in my area (Wilm, DE). Her location at that time was the same as mine. She was kind of on-off in communications and then went silent for a while. When she re-emerged she stated that she was now in the Richmond area and had been up my way for work. She was willing to fly up to see me however, since driving was too long as was the train. But reassured me she would come. We spend a lot of time texting during which she asked a lot of questions and answered only a few herself.

Anyway, I finally found her profile (since it moved geographically) and it now stated Ashburn, VA which certainly is not Richmond, more like DC. But that probably put her an hour closer. She sent a couple of pics in addition to the profile pic on the site. I checked them with GI and got no hits. The one looks professionally done to me. Anyway, after texting miles of text for many days, I asked about talking on the phone to gauge chemistry and make plans. Then I got the reply that her phone was broken and she needed to get a new one in order to be able to talk. Yeah, right. (or fishing for some upfront $?) At one point I was asking her what she desired as far a a meeting was concerned and she swore up one side & down another that she wasn't a prostitute and didn't need money. But at some point she wanted "help" with the plane ticket. LOL! I might have done that if it wasn't cash up front.

Anyway, having invested way too much time I could see this wasn't going anywhere, so I asked her to put up or shut-up and she bid me adieu!

This girl look familiar to anyone? Is she a known scammer or a SB? Or just some chick who doesn't get the game?[/QUOTE]That's the pornstar Alexis Texas.

The bowl is so amazing. I connect w / a 19 YO in a city near my work, pretty far from home. 2 days on the site. She's a very petite Latina, maybe 100# dripping wet, long pink hair. Pretty eyes, flawless skin. A phone call and we get along great. She's studying journalism, works as a barista and server, moved out of her mother's place w / roommates. We meet for lunch at a Yard House, a common M&G locale for me, she's never even been there, she's wearing a tube top dress. Easy conversation during lunch, it's obvious she's like a lotta SBs, totally absent father. I suggest a private talk in my car, in the nearby garage. I cover some basics of my interests and make a point to say I am looking for someone whose company I enjoy, regardless of what we're doing, and I want to take care of her, in all ways. She volunteers that she's got norplant, but alas she hasn't had Gardasil. Oh, well, I'll eat her anyway. She mentions she's pretty adventurous, she's had a 3-some w / her best friend and done anal, and that as long as I am guiding her she'll go w / the flow. I saw this as my cue and said she should kiss me. We're off. After some nice making out, a little more talk about logistics. As I have a SO, she's willing to get us a room. Great! I ask what allowance she needs, just 'help w / my rent'. My hand is on her bare leg so I slide it up, and as soon as I touch her pussy, it's like she's gone into a trance. I love girls like that. I literally could do anything w / her at that point. I am fingering her for a while as she gets really juicy, more turned on, and says 'I have a surprise for you'. Pulls down the top of her dress to reveal a large, brown, pierced nipple that I proceed to lick. She really spreads her legs and asks me to rub her clit, which I do until she cums. We've texted some since our meet, very sexy stuff, and I am telling her how to go about getting a room. So, this isn't FC, yet, but still, I am more than 3 x her age. Please tell me where else I am going to meet someone like her.

[QUOTE=JohnB388;4430268]That's the pornstar Alexis Texas.[/QUOTE]I've got a Fleshlight that is molded with her pussy lips. Better than some I've have fucked on here.

[QUOTE=JohnB388;4430268]That's the pornstar Alexis Texas.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply & info! I figured something was off with her and let the convo go on WAY too long. But this confirms the scam so I am grateful! Thanks!

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4430736] Please tell me where else I am going to meet someone like her.[/QUOTE]Costa Rica?

Congratulations. Hope it lasts a while.

[QUOTE=HappyHunter44;4422301]Have you guys not taken rhetoric in school? People agree to things very easily and all the time without the other party bringing it up specifically. In fact, 90%+ of all decisions and agreements made by humans are actually implied situational decisions and agreements. This is why the college / university Title IX tribunal sex stuff is such a mess. Men and women do not agree to specific actions; they agree to an accepted environment and act within that environment, which include a range of actions.

SBs are no different; the mistake people make is that they do not set the environment for the decision-taking process for the actions they want to take place. There are tons of negotiating books that show how to set the table for a specific outcome in a business meeting before the meeting even takes place. Where college guys go wrong is that there is no discussion of the expected environment at all. However, a discussion with the girl being the one to suggest certain activities is what guys should be setting up. That is the approach I take.

[b]Please note that I said they bring up BBFS specifically?? This means, the environment of the conversation made it something they thought of. It is not that hard to do. [/b]And when they bring it up, all I need to say it that sounds good, but we will see how we connect first. Notice, I did not even return the favor of mentioning the activity or fully agreeing to it. However, 1) it makes it clear that could really happen and 2) it makes it so it will happen if I do not object later on.

We just have different approaches. The last thing I need is a girl saying I did not use a cover when she thought I would or that I never got her permission. If it is on record she was the one who mentioned BBFS and was trying to see if I was fine with it, then at least I have a defense.

There are more than one way to skin a cat. My approach has worked for me to get BBFS for decades without the girl not expecting it. I cannot remember a time a girl asked me if I brought cover. She had already decided before I got there.[/QUOTE]OK, I am intrigued! Can you share exactly what you do to get a girl / SB to bring up BBFS on her own? What do you say or do to "set up the environment?" What are some of the ways to skin that cat? Thanks!

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4431490]OK, I am intrigued! Can you share exactly what you do to get a girl / SB to bring up BBFS on her own? What do you say or do to "set up the environment?" What are some of the ways to skin that cat? Thanks![/QUOTE]Dude, if you want something from another person. Be it a SB, a business associate, or even a car dealer. The way to get it is to be honest and upfront.

If she isn't agreeable to it, say thanks and move on. Don't keep pushing. There are plenty of fish in the sea.

Not to be crude. But don't be a pussy. Ask for what you want in life. If the person you ask says no, move on to the next person. On Seeking, there is a sea of fish to catch. One will say yes.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4431490]OK, I am intrigued! Can you share exactly what you do to get a girl / SB to bring up BBFS on her own? What do you say or do to "set up the environment?" What are some of the ways to skin that cat? Thanks![/QUOTE]When texting I ask if they are ok with oral without a condom if the answer is yes then I ask if they are on birth control One reply was they could use Plan B (day after birth control).

Can anyone share with me their experience with Princess Erri on SA. We have been chatting but seems like a UTR.

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Texted with this one for a while, she tried running a little hustle. Wanted $45 for gas / food before we met. So I played along for a while, wanted more pics though. Sent a few but nothing revealing, so I told her I wanted nudes before we moved forward. Sent me pics but no face was in it. Tbh her boobs looked much bigger in the nudes than they did in her clothed pics. Refused to send me nudes w her face She wanted $300 for BBFS but she'd "work with my budget", but nothing less than $200. So I told her I'd send $20 for gas and when we met up the best I could do was $100. So she told me to beat it, I said cool but if she changes her mind to lmk. About 2. 5 hrs later she hits me back and says if I agree to that do I still get my gas money. I said sure but I want a face pic. Still refused to send nudes w her face in it, so I said fine, send me a face pic with her holding a piece of paper with todays date written on it. She replied that wouldn't be a problem but if in thought she was fake why do I reply back? I said because these pics are from an Instagram acct (sent her a screenshot of the account page) and was hoping either it was your account or if not that you at least moderately look like the girl in the pics. I guess the cat got her tongue because it's been crickets ever since. Don't waste your time.

Instagram acct link: [URL]https://instagram.com/likeimtayha_?igshid=1mnldb063c5xt[/URL].

SA link: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/db7b5265-f7b7-469d-ba19-7e867cdd80a7[/URL].

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;4432491]When texting I ask if they are ok with oral without a condom if the answer is yes then I ask if they are on birth control One reply was they could use Plan B (day after birth control).[/QUOTE]Is this just your questioning strategy or have you actually had a SB attempt to give oral with a condom?

[QUOTE=Dimples572;4433625]Texted with this one for a while, she tried running a little hustle. Wanted $45 for gas / food before we met. So I played along for a while, wanted more pics though. Sent a few but nothing revealing, so I told her I wanted nudes before we moved forward. Sent me pics but no face was in it. Tbh her boobs looked much bigger in the nudes than they did in her clothed pics. Refused to send me nudes w her face She wanted $300 for BBFS but she'd "work with my budget", but nothing less than $200. So I told her I'd send $20 for gas and when we met up the best I could do was $100. So she told me to beat it, I said cool but if she changes her mind to lmk. About 2. 5 hrs later she hits me back and says if I agree to that do I still get my gas money. I said sure but I want a face pic. Still refused to send nudes w her face in it, so I said fine, send me a face pic with her holding a piece of paper with todays date written on it. She replied that wouldn't be a problem but if in thought she was fake why do I reply back? I said because these pics are from an Instagram acct (sent her a screenshot of the account page) and was hoping either it was your account or if not that you at least moderately look like the girl in the pics. I guess the cat got her tongue because it's been crickets ever since. Don't waste your time.

Instagram acct link: [URL]https://instagram.com/likeimtayha_?igshid=1mnldb063c5xt[/URL].

SA link: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/db7b5265-f7b7-469d-ba19-7e867cdd80a7[/URL].[/QUOTE]If that were really her account, she would have made it private two seconds after you texted her the account page screenshot. BTW, even if you're dealing with a real person and she did the pic with date thing, you still don't know if they are anywhere near where they claim they are. Could be 500 miles from you. Anytime they insist on anything upfront, it's 100% a scam, she was more concerned with that 20 of gas money than the terms of the actual arrangement LOL.

[QUOTE=BlueDrive;4358979]Anyone have info / dreams with this one on the southside -[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d8cfdf14-fe89-4ac3-8b45-901b51f42e1c[/URL].[/QUOTE]Dream was her place, SS / Ches, everything was per the pictures, very cute smelling good and fun. Seems to bounce between here and tidewater area as mentioned on another post. Imagined the dream was very nice and. 5.

[QUOTE=BookerTNelson;4433648]Is this just your questioning strategy or have you actually had a SB attempt to give oral with a condom?[/QUOTE]I have met one and after we get on the bed she said she does not do any BJ at all Others want only BJ with condom so I now ask the question when texting if they will do a oral without a condom and if they say yes I then ask them if they are on birth control. Saves a lot of money and headaches!!

Thanks CM.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4434444]If that were really her account, she would have made it private two seconds after you texted her the account page screenshot. BTW, even if you're dealing with a real person and she did the pic with date thing, you still don't know if they are anywhere near where they claim they are. Could be 500 miles from you. Anytime they insist on anything upfront, it's 100% a scam, she was more concerned with that 20 of gas money than the terms of the actual arrangement LOL.[/QUOTE]This is the correct answer.

Anytime a SB asks for money before meeting, it is a scam. 100% of the time.

As a general rule, never give them money until you see a nipple in person.