"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=GregRichmond;4415248]Couple of quick updates.

1. HotRVAchick: She is racial and demands too much money. I will not recommend. Pro SB or escort.

2. summerbaby987: This SB was rude but also told me in message that new SBs at VCU share information, specially the new ones in recent months. She said you reached out to two of my friends. LOL- Well when you are shopping you like to have choices.

3. Profile name start with Sugarbaby: I have seen patterns where either these are fake profile or pro SB's second account. Just watch out. Based on my experience these are used by SBs to scan SDs. And most of them will block you. If you get trapped in their logic.[/QUOTE]I had a girl tell me that she was adding me to "the list" and that it would eliminate my chances of an arrangement with any of the new sb's from any of the local colleges. She said the list is updated daily and all the girls are aware of it and follow the list.

She was upset because she demanded money upfront and then an insane allowance for the meetings. I told her I was sorry to her about her illness. She asked what illness and I told her GPS and to go pound sand. She wasn't very appreciative.

Thanks for all of the replies. I went to CVS bought one and followed the instructions to register and wait a few minutes and it worked fine.

[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4411910]Has anyone located a place to purchase a Visa or Mastercard that can be used internationally for SA membership?

I have looked almost everywhere and can only find ones that can be used in USA and DC.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]

Gentlemen, I believe my OpSec is good overall, although not up to the level of some of you guys. I only log on using a VPN with encryption, use a Google Voice number tied to my burner phone for texts, bought burner phone for cash and use prepaid plan paid for with gift cards bought with cash, etc.

I am having an increasing problem with girls that want to use apps, and frankly, can't be bothered to use texts or email. Email is so last century, it feels to them like using a carrier pigeon. Text, of course, is something they still use, but lots of them have their own OpSec concerns about sharing their number but are not smart / motivated enough to get a burner number. I have WhatsApp and Kik on my burner and can get whatever apps come in fashion next. Problem is my Operation Security Manual of Procedures requires that I keep my burner phone well hidden except when I am actually on a mission. I don't want anything incriminating on my primary phone. I view SA and my texts on a computer.

I have tried to download desktop versions of these apps, or emulators to use the regular apps on my desktop. So far, nothing has worked. I expect my VPN might be screwing up the ability to download apps and emulators.

Already today I have had two hot POT's ask if I can move to WhatsApp. I am missing too much pussy over what should be a trivial issue! Does anyone else use their computer desktop for these apps? Can anyone advise on how to set them up so they are secure? Not thrilled about logging on to apps without VPN and encryption. Any advice or links to resources appreciated.

I reached out to the following 3 ladies and each one had the same response to me, they stated that they only talk on the phone to set up a meet and greet. A very unusual first response, especially when they never even looked at my profile or requested my pics. I got paranoid and didn't call. Anyone have any insight on this?

Summerbaby987.

NewRVA.

I can't find the 3rd one but she's sitting on a motorcycle with her eyes blocked out.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4415744]I had a girl tell me that she was adding me to "the list" and that it would eliminate my chances of an arrangement with any of the new sb's from any of the local colleges. She said the list is updated daily and all the girls are aware of it and follow the list.

She was upset because she demanded money upfront and then an insane allowance for the meetings. I told her I was sorry to her about her illness. She asked what illness and I told her GPS and to go pound sand. She wasn't very appreciative.[/QUOTE]Anyone make a fake account to get into the list yet? Would like to see what they say about me. 😬.

Blonde 18 yo 2001 baby. Amazing lay, loves to be dominated. Let me choke, slap, spit on, and generally destroy her. BBFS, CIP, agreed to anal but backed out when she saw my size so YMMV. One of my all time faves.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/75537418-066c-4b7a-80e0-9461a358f6a4[/URL]

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4415744]I had a girl tell me that she was adding me to "the list" and that it would eliminate my chances of an arrangement with any of the new sb's from any of the local colleges. She said the list is updated daily and all the girls are aware of it and follow the list.[/QUOTE]I've said it before and maintain the belief that there is no "organized list". A few girls may compare notes but you guys are clueless if you believe these 18-21 yo bimbos are sharing spreadsheets with our names. Half of them need to ask me to remind them of my username when I reach out off site.

Sure, 2 or 3 friends may share the name of guys who stood out in a good or bad way. But a "list" that is shared and updated daily or even weekly, no.

I've banged roomates, sorority sisters, etc and they don't realize I'm nailing their peers too LOL.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4416142]I've said it before and maintain the belief that there is no "organized list". A few girls may compare notes but you guys are clueless if you believe these 18-21 yo bimbos are sharing spreadsheets with our names. Half of them need to ask me to remind them of my username when I reach out off site.

Sure, 2 or 3 friends may share the name of guys who stood out in a good or bad way. But a "list" that is shared and updated daily or even weekly, no.

I've banged roomates, sorority sisters, etc and they don't realize I'm nailing their peers too LOL.[/QUOTE]I've banged some of them as well, thanks for the info by the way. Is just a small group of sorority girls that help each other out. If you ask nicely and treat them well, they will hook you up with contact info. Is usually the big sister that helps the little sister. Rush season is coming up, sorority dues brings them out!

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4416129]Blonde 18 yo 2001 baby. Amazing lay, loves to be dominated. Let me choke, slap, spit on, and generally destroy her. BBFS, CIP, agreed to anal but backed out when she saw my size so YMMV. One of my all time faves.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/75537418-066c-4b7a-80e0-9461a358f6a4[/URL][/QUOTE]She just joined yesterday, did she have a prior account or do you just work that fast? LOL.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4416173]She just joined yesterday, did she have a prior account or do you just work that fast? LOL.[/QUOTE]She was my slam piece up in NOVA this summer. I banged a bunch of 2019 HS grads headed down to VCU so I did a quick search in RVA to see if I recognized any of the new 18yos down there.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4416210]She was my slam piece up in NOVA this summer. I banged a bunch of 2019 HS grads headed down to VCU so I did a quick search in RVA to see if I recognized any of the new 18yos down there.[/QUOTE]Care to share what the damage was? You can pm me if you like.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;4416219]Care to share what the damage was? You can pm me if you like.[/QUOTE]I doubt it would translate. I was hitting it for free after the first time.

My month membership is almost up, so I decided to add up numbers to see if it's been as bad as it seemed with girls not logging back in. Over the month I found 22 girls with recent logins (max of 5 days before I rejoined) I was interested in, median age of 19.5. Of those, more than a third (8) haven't logged back in since I messaged them.

Two more have logged in but haven't read what I sent. Four read but didn't reply. Three of those four viewed my profile and the fourth has a premium account so she could've viewed it too, so it must have been my pics or profile that bombed rather than the message I sent.

One was some sort of scam. One was car-less and lived too far to deal with going to pick up. One was too boring in chat to continue with.

One was a really hot 18 yo who made plans via text to meet me for lunch in a few days, but then ghosted me the next day. She signed into SA a day after that, but hasn't been back on for a few weeks now, so I don't know if she met someone else or changed her mind about being a SB.

Another was an utterly flawless girl who'd just turned 18 a few weeks earlier and I caught on her first day on SA. We met for lunch and it went well, so we made plans for her to come to my place a few days later and she acted excited about it. But then she went ghost the next day. She hasn't been back on SA since her her first day, so that's another one where I'm not sure if she met someone else or changed her mind about being a SB.

That leaves three. One 21 yo I fucked but she was skankier than I expected, so no repeat. Then there's another 21 yo who's been blowing me regularly, and an 18 yo I've been fucking regularly.

Getting down to the wire here, I recently messaged 8 more girls who were on the -maybe- pile. Three no-login-sinces, two didn't read, and one read but no reply. One 19 yo replied today and we're talking, and one 21 yo replied yesterday and we're meeting for lunch tomorrow. Maybe. She's boring too so I'm not trying very hard.

I'm curious to hear if this all matches others' experiences or not. I'm not sure if I'll renew. I don't mind if a girl isn't interested in my message / profile, but sending 30 messages and having 15 not even get read hardly seems worth it.

[QUOTE=DogBert77;4415966]
Already today I have had two hot POT's ask if I can move to WhatsApp. I am missing too much pussy over what should be a trivial issue! Does anyone else use their computer desktop for these apps? Can anyone advise on how to set them up so they are secure? Not thrilled about logging on to apps without VPN and encryption. Any advice or links to resources appreciated.[/QUOTE]If you're going to use WhatsApp, or similar, I suggest getting a burner and only using it with cell data to access the internet, and never connecting to WiFi with it.

Download WhatsApp on that phone, and never log onto it on any other device.

Use that burner for all your SA-related activities, and nothing else.

Pay cash for the burner and for the monthly refill cards. Don't register the burner with the cell carrier beyond the minimum they require to set up the device.

So I've been trying to set up a new profile (just like to switch it up every now and then) and each time after a couple of days when I go to log in to this new account it says "profile deleted. " This has happened twice now. There are no reasons given, no emails sent, just deleted. I'm using a VPN, different email and even changed my computer's MAC address. The profile description and text shouldn't be any issue and in fact it seems like it was approved prior to the deletion. Anyone have the same experience or ideas as to why it's being deleted?