"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=BagIt;4402257]Who are the men who are paying these girls on SA for mentoring, only going to dinner, talking and shit like that w / no BBBJ or pussy on the menu? I mean the number of girls who tell me they are only looking for that is ridiculous. I mean hell I can find someone to talk to for free![/QUOTE]Tell me about this. It is amazing to hear some SBs joined because they heard about this type of arrangements. Also, how do you all answer questions like "what are you looking for? Well. Are SBs acting dumb in front of us and try to milk us?

[QUOTE=BagIt;4402257]Who are the men who are paying these girls on SA for mentoring, only going to dinner, talking and shit like that w / no BBBJ or pussy on the menu? I mean the number of girls who tell me they are only looking for that is ridiculous. I mean hell I can find someone to talk to for free![/QUOTE]I think a lot of girls read about this shit in cosmo or something. They hear that seeking is full of 30 something stock brokers who want to take them out for dinner and pay $5,000 a month for chit chat, so they sign up and quickly realize its 90% 50 year old high school gym teachers who want to f* them in the ass for $150. That's why the wash out rate is so high. Most drop out, some try it for a few months then drop out, and some become regulars.

There are guys who pick one and want a real relationship with a single sb. I think that is crazy. With the amount of new 18-21 yos on that site every week I've never even gone to dinner with one before nailing her. Heck, I'll only meet in public before the FC if it's a particularly fresh / nervous 18 yo. The only time I bother to repeat is when it's free.

Some people want to treat them like they are different than escorts, they are but only in mileage.

Like pretty much everybody here, I'm always most interested in new profiles when they hit. But I'm fortunate to have 2 SB's in my rotation who are pretty cool to see me as frequently or infrequently as I want, for modest rewards. One is a 23 yr old Goth chick, part white part Latina, who works as a waitress; a trim waist, cute face and an ample bosom -- and zero inhibitions. The other is also young 20's, graduate student, Asian mix, perfect spinner body, long, long dark hair and a cute but not gorgeous face. Her menu is more limited -- she likes only kissing and F*ing, though she does both of those with extreme enthusiasm. Interestingly, neither of these girls is orgasmic. Not from oral, manual, toys or even self stimulation. One says she has never cum, the other only once in her life. They both claim that it's not a big deal to them and that they enjoy sex. When fooling around their breathing etc often suggests to me that they are close to getting there, but they both say no, it felt good, but they weren't close to getting off.

Which brings me to what I would like to add to my rotation: maybe a 30-35 year old divorcee who is highly orgasmic, and is on the site for the usual rewards but also needs (like me) to actually bust one (or maybe more) with some regularity. This hypothetical woman could even be of only average (or maybe slightly better) looks, even carry 10 extra pounds, preferably in her posterior. But I do miss the pleasure of being with a women in the moments after she releases and is so filled with endorphins that anything you want is happily on her menu.

I have M&G's scheduled with two such creatures this week. Wish me luck.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4402285]I think a lot of girls read about this shit in cosmo or something. They hear that seeking is full of 30 something stock brokers who want to take them out for dinner and pay $5,000 a month for chit chat, so they sign up and quickly realize its 90% 50 year old high school gym teachers who want to f* them in the ass for $150. That's why the wash out rate is so high. Most drop out, some try it for a few months then drop out, and some become regulars.

There are guys who pick one and want a real relationship with a single sb. I think that is crazy. With the amount of new 18-21 yos on that site every week I've never even gone to dinner with one before nailing her. Heck, I'll only meet in public before the FC if it's a particularly fresh / nervous 18 yo. The only time I bother to repeat is when it's free.

Some people want to treat them like they are different than escorts, they are but only in mileage.[/QUOTE]Plus the fact they post pics in a bikini, lingerie, or some suggestive pose which makes you think they are showing us that hot body for a reason, only to be greatly let down to find those pics are nothing we will ever get to see, much less touch. Damn crazy teasing bs.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4402285]I think a lot of girls read about this shit in cosmo or something. They hear that seeking is full of 30 something stock brokers who want to take them out for dinner and pay $5,000 a month for chit chat, so they sign up and quickly realize its 90% 50 year old high school gym teachers who want to f* them in the ass for $150. That's why the wash out rate is so high. Most drop out, some try it for a few months then drop out, and some become regulars.
[/QUOTE]The site gets stuff published all the time in magazines and social media and their blog and that letstalksugar site SA runs, making it seem like platonic is common. They do that to get more female profiles, which is what attracts the paying guys. And there are some girls I've talked to on there that swear up and down that they've found it. Color me skeptical but then again I wouldn't have believed people would ever pay for pics or send money online to someone they never met, but clearly that's going on.

What does seem to be happening now is that there are lately a ton of guys joining who are brand new to it and don't know how to do it. Some think they should be giving out allowances immediately even before anything happens, trusting the rest comes in time. And certain girls are pretty good at milking that and leading the guy on for a while before he wises up, that definitely goes on. And there probably are a few socially awkward dudes that are lonely enough to do it, but then again maybe the girl is earning her cash to socialize with those types haha.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4402640]The site gets stuff published all the time in magazines and social media and their blog and that letstalksugar site SA runs, making it seem like platonic is common. They do that to get more female profiles, which is what attracts the paying guys. And there are some girls I've talked to on there that swear up and down that they've found it. Color me skeptical but then again I wouldn't have believed people would ever pay for pics or send money online to someone they never met, but clearly that's going on.

What does seem to be happening now is that there are lately a ton of guys joining who are brand new to it and don't know how to do it. Some think they should be giving out allowances immediately even before anything happens, trusting the rest comes in time. And certain girls are pretty good at milking that and leading the guy on for a while before he wises up, that definitely goes on. And there probably are a few socially awkward dudes that are lonely enough to do it, but then again maybe the girl is earning her cash to socialize with those types haha.[/QUOTE]All of that is true but with some persistence you can find enough around Richmond to keep you busy. I have been to the FC 3 times with three different ones in the last two and half weeks. All under 24 and new to SA since May. One was UTR for sure. Plenty of those on here.

[QUOTE=EasyeOne;4400132]This one talks a good game but once you start planning to meet wants half upfront, the usual. I've been scam before so I need to make sure you are real crap.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/92d31d1d-4f10-448e-958c-11159174c085[/URL][/QUOTE]Yes, this one uses the lame excuse of someone cheated before. She wants to get half allowance upfront. It is a scam.

Wanted to thank everyone for your advice and knowledge. It's definitely been a learning experience trying to navigate through the scammers on seeking. I have a couple of good potentials now that I'm confident are legitimate sugar babies. I also have one that I'm ok with paying for pics and vids right now. My end goal is to get to FC. I'm meeting her tomorrow as I bought her a couple toys she's going to use and send me vids with. I know the risk of ending up with nothing in the end but I've made her my little conquest.

My profile addresses this head on.

"if Platonic is in your profile. You might want to use Google and find out what Plato did to his students during detention".

Screens out the time wasters and those who take themselves WAY TOO seriously.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dac9d552-725c-4266-be9b-b42265647f0b[/URL]

This one made me laugh. She says Someone who is a good mentor and loves to talk. Not into anything physical. but her only photo is her looking sexy as shit in a bikini on a beach. Why not a pic wearing a turtleneck sweater hitting the books in a library if you're so into learning?

As for the scams, I guess I'm good at spotting them because I've never had a girl ask me to send money in advance or anything like that. My biggest problem on my most recent re-join is most of the girls I've messaged haven't been back online since I messaged them.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4403098]Wanted to thank everyone for your advice and knowledge. It's definitely been a learning experience trying to navigate through the scammers on seeking. I have a couple of good potentials now that I'm confident are legitimate sugar babies. I also have one that I'm ok with paying for pics and vids right now. My end goal is to get to FC. I'm meeting her tomorrow as I bought her a couple toys she's going to use and send me vids with. I know the risk of ending up with nothing in the end but I've made her my little conquest.[/QUOTE]If she actually shows, at least you'll know she's local then. Most of the pic sellers aren't even anywhere near what's in their profiles. But I think your conquest idea is the opposite of what it should be, you're already providing the carrot, her incentive to take it further with you is just not there. Chances are she'll be FC'ing other guys while you buy that stuff from her. Several of my babies over the years did the pic and vid thing too, and they never FC'd any of those guys. But if you're one who finds value in the pics and vids then still not a total loss.

Take the time to read through some of this stuff if you haven't already. It's an amazing resource and if you follow some of these strategies and pay close attention to the "Don'ts" in here, your experience will improve 100 fold and you'll never get scammed.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2619514&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2619514.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/be106744-8787-4b41-8506-c263a1c98a35[/URL]

She has messaged me a couple of times. Even though she is listed as Virginia, Virginia she says she is outside Richmond. I'm only looking for someone closer to home (Farmville), since I already have people I like in Richmond, but she might be good for one of you. I searched here, but didn't find any mention of her.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4403098]Wanted to thank everyone for your advice and knowledge. It's definitely been a learning experience trying to navigate through the scammers on seeking. I have a couple of good potentials now that I'm confident are legitimate sugar babies. I also have one that I'm ok with paying for pics and vids right now. My end goal is to get to FC. I'm meeting her tomorrow as I bought her a couple toys she's going to use and send me vids with. I know the risk of ending up with nothing in the end but I've made her my little conquest.[/QUOTE]TomDickNHarry summed it up below.

If you are totally OK with only ever seeing pics or vids, go for it.

But watch yourself.

Messing with some of these girls is like going to a timeshare presentation. You'll hand over your bank account and be thanking her as you do it.

[QUOTE=UKnowWho;4403610][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/dac9d552-725c-4266-be9b-b42265647f0b[/URL]

This one made me laugh. She says Someone who is a good mentor and loves to talk. Not into anything physical. but her only photo is her looking sexy as shit in a bikini on a beach. Why not a pic wearing a turtleneck sweater hitting the books in a library if you're so into learning?

As for the scams, I guess I'm good at spotting them because I've never had a girl ask me to send money in advance or anything like that. My biggest problem on my most recent re-join is most of the girls I've messaged haven't been back online since I messaged them.[/QUOTE]She is exactly the type I am talking about in my post 16980, I run across them way too much.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;4403634]If she actually shows, at least you'll know she's local then. Most of the pic sellers aren't even anywhere near what's in their profiles. But I think your conquest idea is the opposite of what it should be, you're already providing the carrot, her incentive to take it further with you is just not there. Chances are she'll be FC'ing other guys while you buy that stuff from her. Several of my babies over the years did the pic and vid thing too, and they never FC'd any of those guys. But if you're one who finds value in the pics and vids then still not a total loss.

Take the time to read through some of this stuff if you haven't already. It's an amazing resource and if you follow some of these strategies and pay close attention to the "Don'ts" in here, your experience will improve 100 fold and you'll never get scammed.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ&p=2619514&viewfull=1[/URL]#post2619514.[/QUOTE]Little update, she actually showed up at our pre determined public meeting spot. She was genuine and thankful. We had coffee and talked about her schooling and her on seeking. She was completely honest and open about everything. She's very pleasant. The negative is that I don't feel like I'm any closer to making anything physical with her. After we left she texted me and said she has a friend that maybe interested in an arrangement that would better fit my wants. I have to respect a struggling college students honesty as she never led me on at all and was clear she was reluctant of anything physical even after offering $$ per meeting.