"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

I would go one step further. Never give money until her panties are on the floor and your dick is inside her pussy. Scammers (or rinsers) operate at different levels, before you meet, after you meet, even after meeting at the parking lot of the hotel for a fun visit. Get as much money as possible from you with no intention of ever getting intimate. More you get experience more likely you avoid those. Sorry to paint a dark picture. There are girls on the site I have met who never mentioned money even after few visits to FC (of course I gave them money anyway after a fun visit). But, unfortunately that's a rarity these days on that site. We have to weed through all the carp to find them. Once you find them it is a blast.

Keep trying.

Dr. S.

[QUOTE=Harpman31;4400962]NEVER give money upfront to someone you have not met in person first. Period.[/QUOTE]

Avoid this person with profile name 2 fun4 you94, who is ready to meet, but one who tells you all kind of drama shit and also, a short timer. She is UTR, Pro and potentially escort. Avoid, and run away.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f3b39ebf-174f-43bf-8ae4-e68d41bd2852[/URL]

Be safe.

[QUOTE=BlueEyedMan58;4400701]So, my standard hello message mentions my interest in "discreet afternoon meetings. " Response from a somewhat attractive mid 30's SB: "Hey handsome, I'd love to spend an afternoon getting lunch with you, then going to the spa and finishing with some upscale shopping. " I guess some variant of GPS, but who knows? We all are looking for the 20 year old spinner with hair to her tight little ass who loves nasty sex with 60 year old men; I guess they're out there looking for the rich 60 year old man who loves to sit in the corner of Moda Milano watching some 35 year old burn through his credit card. Good luck to us all.[/QUOTE]I bet that crap works on some guys who are new to the site.

They hear about the site, sign up and are suddenly across a Starbucks table from some hot blonde who would never give them attention in real life. Their wife hasn't blown them since Clinton was in office, and they can't stop staring at that cleavage.

The lure of that pussy can make a guy do stupid stuff like getting led around the mall by his dick, whipping out his credit card because he is certain the pussy juices will be flowing soon.

After a long day of shopping, dining and spa treatments, the headache comes on and she has to go home so she can rest up for the "intimate date" the next evening.

Poof, she's a ghost.

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4401023]I would go one step further. Never give money until her panties are on the floor and your dick is inside her pussy. Scammers (or rinsers) operate at different levels, before you meet, after you meet, even after meeting at the parking lot of the hotel for a fun visit. Get as much money as possible from you with no intention of ever getting intimate. More you get experience more likely you avoid those. Sorry to paint a dark picture. There are girls on the site I have met who never mentioned money even after few visits to FC (of course I gave them money anyway after a fun visit). But, unfortunately that's a rarity these days on that site. We have to weed through all the carp to find them. Once you find them it is a blast.

Keep trying.

Dr. S.[/QUOTE]Absolutely agree with this. Even with allowance discussed beforehand, of the 40+ SBs I've nailed this year only one asked for it before I fucked her.

[QUOTE=DrSummer;4401023]I would go one step further. Never give money until her panties are on the floor and your dick is inside her pussy. Scammers (or rinsers) operate at different levels, before you meet, after you meet, even after meeting at the parking lot of the hotel for a fun visit. Get as much money as possible from you with no intention of ever getting intimate. More you get experience more likely you avoid those. Sorry to paint a dark picture. There are girls on the site I have met who never mentioned money even after few visits to FC (of course I gave them money anyway after a fun visit). But, unfortunately that's a rarity these days on that site. We have to weed through all the carp to find them. Once you find them it is a blast.

Keep trying.

Dr. S.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the great advice. New to this game and learning to think with the big head vs the small head.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4400380]Is there another place that's keeps track of all the scams on SA? All I seem to find are girls either selling pics and vids or girls wanting half the money via PayPal or cash app up front. It's pretty frustrating spends so much times only to realize they are scams. One of the "girls" mentioned here a few days go got me out of $100 via Venmo. Unfortunately for "her" she had all her other transactions private and I was able to use FB to track down the other people "she's" sent / received money from for legitimate things. Come to find out it's actually a guy from Missouri. I called him out with his real name and info and he quickly made his fb private and unsearchable.

It's just frustrating, my type is the young girl next door type and they all seem to be scams.[/QUOTE]Because of the proliferation of fakes and scams I've thought of a way to post up the profiles, for now I just do it on here in my town. Maybe we should create a reddit.

But if you set a few simple rules that you never deviate from, then you really can't get scammed. This board has FAQ's and the like that cover all this, but bottom line is ANY AND ALL girls you haven't met asking you to send money online are scams. Period, end of story. Don't pay for pics if you don't want pics (and why in the hell would anyone when there's the internet) b / c you will never meet that girl. If girls (if they're even real) can get something for nothing, why in the hell would they ever meet you. I mean you've learned your lesson now but common sense can also protect you if you really think about each of these situations. Confidence men are called that for a reason, the good scammers are always convincing. Set your rules as Dr. S mentions and don't deviate. Ever, unless you just like getting ripped off.

But keep plugging away, they're out there, it's just harder to find, partially b/c people are falling for these things and so more of the fakes and scams are being created. Don't waste your time on endless messaging and texts, push for meet and greets. If they won't do that, then they're less likely to be real. And don't send gas money or other BS to get them to M&G, it's all the same scam. Cash only always (or a gift card) and only in person. Almost scam proof. Good luck.

[QUOTE=GregRichmond;4401077]Avoid this person with profile name 2 fun4 you94, who is ready to meet, but one who tells you all kind of drama shit and also, a short timer. She is UTR, Pro and potentially escort. Avoid, and run away.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f3b39ebf-174f-43bf-8ae4-e68d41bd2852[/URL]

Be safe.[/QUOTE]Is she a good lay? What's the menu? What's the rate?

[QUOTE=Tidad;4401582]Is she a good lay? What's the menu? What's the rate?[/QUOTE]She's asking $300 for a meet and seems extremely limited. If she's even real. She mentioned me buying some pictures first to sample what she is offering.

[QUOTE=GregRichmond;4401077]Avoid this person with profile name 2 fun4 you94, who is ready to meet, but one who tells you all kind of drama shit and also, a short timer. She is UTR, Pro and potentially escort. Avoid, and run away.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f3b39ebf-174f-43bf-8ae4-e68d41bd2852[/URL]

Be safe.[/QUOTE]I have seen her. M&G and straight to hotel. I wasn't looking for a SB so getting straight to the point and then down to business is fine with me. YMMV but I left happy. She wasn't GFE as she doesn't like to kiss. That's all I am sharing publicly or privately unless I have it's a SM that I trust. I would see her again if she was GFE.

[QUOTE=Tidad;4401582]Is she a good lay? What's the menu? What's the rate?[/QUOTE]Quoted me $400 but said she wouldn't have a lot of time. Definitely seems sketchy. She lied a few times already so I'd avoid.

[QUOTE=Harpman31;4400962]NEVER give money upfront to someone you have not met in person first. Period.[/QUOTE]You would think that would go without saying but apparently not.

[QUOTE=Tidad;4401582]Is she a good lay? What's the menu? What's the rate?[/QUOTE]Menu was short, not much to offer. Looks like she do smoke a lot. Not full GFE and not worth it. She will get an excuse to leave. ! So avoid.

[QUOTE=Truncated;4401123]I bet that crap works on some guys who are new to the site.

They hear about the site, sign up and are suddenly across a Starbucks table from some hot blonde who would never give them attention in real life. Their wife hasn't blown them since Clinton was in office, and they can't stop staring at that cleavage.

The lure of that pussy can make a guy do stupid stuff like getting led around the mall by his dick, whipping out his credit card because he is certain the pussy juices will be flowing soon.

After a long day of shopping, dining and spa treatments, the headache comes on and she has to go home so she can rest up for the "intimate date" the next evening.

Poof, she's a ghost.[/QUOTE]I agree with you that there was no pussy at the end of that particular rainbow. But I don't know how many would be taken in -- what amused me was that she wasn't even clever or subtle enough to imply that there was anything in it for the guy providing that luxury-filled afternoon.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;4401805]Quoted me $400 but said she wouldn't have a lot of time. Definitely seems sketchy. She lied a few times already so I'd avoid.[/QUOTE]That's twice my donation. I make the offer first with all those I meet on SA. 90 percent of the time they will take it. Which is why I like to do coffee or drinks in the afternoon. We have already determined if there is an attraction. They can get X amount that day from me or they can play the game with next guy if they want more.

Who are the men who are paying these girls on SA for mentoring, only going to dinner, talking and shit like that w / no BBBJ or pussy on the menu? I mean the number of girls who tell me they are only looking for that is ridiculous. I mean hell I can find someone to talk to for free!