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[QUOTE=TJ985;4704730]These providers are like the cruise ships. Visiting different ports. An infected person could spread it far and wide.
After today's meeting, I'm done for a bit. Hope I didn't stop too late.[/QUOTE]As a provider and I have chosen to slow down due to this very dangerous virus, but please don't assume that all providers are careless, there are some that are safe and not selfish, just because someone does this doesn't mean that they don't care about their own health or the health of their clients.
[QUOTE=MrMike1952;4704463]Now, that is very surprising.
Liquor sales. I realize there may be a drop in people's ability to pay, but I thought demand was pretty inelastic. And while it may be bad for bars, if you are spending a lot of time at home, booze would seem to be something you would want plenty of.[/QUOTE]You may be correct. To clarify by "Liquor business sale" I meant business to Business, which is Bars, Conference, Social events, Restaurants. This amount cannot be made up by individual store sales. Liquor store are probably cutting also since this is not an essential expense. May be they'll end up converting in toilet paper sales outfit with a flair (Italian aisle (DeVinci decorated), German aisle (rough grind) French aisle (use when you are 2), California (bio-degrades in your hand).
[QUOTE=MrMike1952;4704463]Now, that is very surprising.
Liquor sales. I realize there may be a drop in people's ability to pay, but I thought demand was pretty inelastic. And while it may be bad for bars, if you are spending a lot of time at home, booze would seem to be something you would want plenty of.[/QUOTE]Bars and restaurants have been dead. I've been in a major city this week and I haven't seen a restaurant more than 10% full.
[QUOTE=TJ985;4704730]These providers are like the cruise ships. Visiting different ports. An infected person could spread it far and wide.
After today's meeting, I'm done for a bit. Hope I didn't stop too late.[/QUOTE]Also, hand sanitizer is anti-bacterial and has no effect on a virus. Take your sanitizer and add a little Clorox or Lysol to it. No proof that this absolutely works exists yet, but most professionals think it should be effective.
[QUOTE=Gridley;4704643]I suspended all my hobbying activities as of the end of Feb. I've been playing for a long time and thankfully never caught anything but this scares me because it's a highly contagious Airborne Pathogen that can leave severe lifelong respiratory damage even fter you recover.
With the clubs I frequent, no condom or amount of hand sanitizer will protect you. Some of these girls can come in close contact with two hundred people a day and they will still work because this is their livelihood. Not odds I'm comfortable with.
If you do catch it, the CDC will track all your whereabouts. I have elderly parents and compromised friends and relatives. Don't want to harm them as well as myself.[/QUOTE]Here is an article on what is going on in Italy, ahead of 23 weeks from us. It is not pretty. Good stats on who die or get infected. All are targets but more so with age and being a male.
Worst, the virus seem to be mutating and become more lethal on pneumonia symptoms in some area. This is what concerns me most.
Clearly, prevention / distancing is the only way to stop this until we get tests and enough remedy medecine. Italy is in complete lock down but it seems to work.
If anyone is close to anyone else with access to elderly DO NOT take any chance. You may well kill them unintentionally. That thing is very very contagious and for the most "lucky ones: it takes a long time to recover.
News. [URL]yahoo.com[/URL]/ life-under-lockdown-in-italy-a-look-at-what-might-be-coming-to-the-us-154627150. Html.
NY has ordered all bars and restaurants closed as of Tuesday. Service will be 'take-out' only. Wonder how soon CT will follow suit.
[QUOTE=Gridley;4707235]NY has ordered all bars and restaurants closed as of Tuesday. Service will be 'take-out' only. Wonder how soon CT will follow suit.[/QUOTE]CT already started as of today. Casinos, bars, restaurants, movie theaters, and gyms will close at 8. Only available food is from take-out.
[QUOTE=DaReal86;4707761]CT already started as of today. Casinos, bars, restaurants, movie theaters, and gyms will close at 8. Only available food is from take-out.[/QUOTE]Well I don't think we are being told the whole story unfortunately. Still lots of sugar coating going on. Because of lack of testing it appears the virus is always well spread. Someone working in ER in FL is saying it is getting rapidly out of control there. I also just heard that a couple of ER docs are seriously ill already (latest news). That thing evolves by the hour. Expect lock down if tests are not still wildly avail and easy as in South Korea. What I really do worry about is dangerous mutation if not stopped quickly and carriers still wander around.
[QUOTE=DaReal86;4707761]CT already started as of today. Casinos, bars, restaurants, movie theaters, and gyms will close at 8. Only available food is from take-out.[/QUOTE]Have the Tribes agreed to close the casinos?
[QUOTE=MrMike1952;4707987]Have the Tribes agreed to close the casinos?[/QUOTE]I think I may have read a statement from Lamont that said the tribes are working closely and cooperating with local governments. But to add on with my previous post, NJ and NY have also agreed to do the same thing.
[URL]https://apnews.com/62a2ea1dc6b3bf7d10b1d7305dc1a391?fbclid=IwAR27Pz1z2-D0_MkKK_ifL8DrCJLIW2mMvFjVuy5JNQZpVUL2m2V4WDoUz_Y[/URL]
[QUOTE=JoeZog;4709063][URL]https://apnews.com/62a2ea1dc6b3bf7d10b1d7305dc1a391?fbclid=IwAR27Pz1z2-D0_MkKK_ifL8DrCJLIW2mMvFjVuy5JNQZpVUL2m2V4WDoUz_Y[/URL][/QUOTE]This situation is inevitable now. What most people do not realize is that the real danger is in the high number of mild to non-sick carriers because this virus is highly contagious. By not being self-disciplined, these carriers will infect the 20% of the population at high risk and thus putting our way of living today at risk: lack of medical supplies, doctors becoming sick to an untenable ratio (the normal flu does not contaminate the docs and nurses at such a rate), supply chains start to fail due to lack of workers, etc. The stress on medical supplies and hospital capacity overrun will in turn cause more stress, more infected, less care for other illness and more death thus more panic.
The whole thing is an ecosystem which we all play a part, good or bad. That is why everyone must exercise caution and discipline. It does not serve the healthy or mildy sick if everything around them collapses because 20% of the population gets hit. If so they'll be the ones out of a job, watching the entire economic system crash. The only good thing is that the gov finally seem to understand the scope of the issue. But at the end it is the people who will defeat the spread or cause their own demises one way or another.
[QUOTE=SergeG;4709747]This situation is inevitable now. What most people do not realize is that the real danger is in the high number of mild to non-sick carriers because this virus is highly contagious. By not being self-disciplined, these carriers will infect the 20% of the population at high risk and thus putting our way of living today at risk: lack of medical supplies, doctors becoming sick to an untenable ratio (the normal flu does not contaminate the docs and nurses at such a rate), supply chains start to fail due to lack of workers, etc. The stress on medical supplies and hospital capacity overrun will in turn cause more stress, more infected, less care for other illness and more death thus more panic.
The whole thing is an ecosystem which we all play a part, good or bad. That is why everyone must exercise caution and discipline. It does not serve the healthy or mildy sick if everything around them collapses because 20% of the population gets hit. If so they'll be the ones out of a job, watching the entire economic system crash. The only good thing is that the gov finally seem to understand the scope of the issue. But at the end it is the people who will defeat the spread or cause their own demises one way or another.[/QUOTE]By definition, a sex worker cannot keep social distance, so they will inevitably become carriers. (except cam girls, of course).
Even if you are young and not likely to be seriously infected, there must be some older or impaired person in your life. You don't want to be responsible for bringing the virus from a sex worker to your family.
[QUOTE=MrMike1952;4710706]By definition, a sex worker cannot keep social distance, so they will inevitably become carriers. (except cam girls, of course).
Even if you are young and not likely to be seriously infected, there must be some older or impaired person in your life. You don't want to be responsible for bringing the virus from a sex worker to your family.[/QUOTE]Due to my work, I have to follow national and global events. We are currently on the European trajectory. In 24 h+ our state go in lock down with "stay home" for people. This means police will increasingly start to check travelers and their destination on the road. Although there are not going to be fines at this time for not having proof of non essential travel, you should expect this as hospital capacity becomes critical.
Lock down expectations now are for months not weeks. Europe lock down in several countries is expected to last until end of April. Not sure how this will all work out if you want to visit a critically ill relative. Probably a special permission. This is very likely coming to us.
Something else may also happens as I think about it, if the hospital spike gets really bad: LE traps for mongers and ladies. If the hospitals are indeed overrun and businesses shut down, the next step would be to prevent infection by enforcement on risky behaviors. New client outcalls traps would do that for ladies and new incall for dudes. Remember this may sound outlandish now but exponential propagation in only starting and infection spread time will compress quickly.
This is not to alarm anyone but rather help be aware of ramifications moving forward for those actives and willing to meet new people.