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[QUOTE=Waxxon;5079308]Don't overpay. Most of the so called "sb's" / semi-pros / pros on SA will agree to 3-400, and with some effort and game on your part you can do better. There are lots of options, whether it's a true sb vs all the pros now on site is the difference. Was in contact with one recently, [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/889fbec8-e897-4712-986a-a7c4a1c070f0[/URL] asking for 500 ppm. Thats way more than my usual and she immediately comes down to 4. Without too much difficulty it now drops to 250 if I get a hotel near her or it goes up to 3 if she has to drive to my place. Getting a room is not my preference since I have no problems using my own place and still having success at 2-250 Ended up not closing the deal for now, may revisit in the future.[/QUOTE]Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.

[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;5080315]Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.[/QUOTE]IMHO there are several factors driving this.

1. There are other locations where rates appear to be much higher than here, think Silicon Valley, NYC. That gets publicity even on mainstream media, and distorts what SBs perceive to be normal.

2. SA propaganda is that the world is full of whales, and they can get hundreds for just looking pretty, let alone opening their legs. That influences SB perception. I have communicated with a fair number who seem really convinced that they just have to sit back, and 4-5 k per month will be theirs.

3. Those who need cash tend to be realistic, but a large percentage of the SBs are (I think) just chancing their arm. That is, they don't need the money (or don't seem to), and are happy to text, in the off-chance that a whale will come along. (They also think whales are more common than they really are, see 2.).

4. The FOSTA inspired death of various outlets has put up escort prices, seemingly leading to a flood of Johns into the SB world, Johns who are used to paying a lot more for very little.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5080357]IMHO there are several factors driving this.

1. There are other locations where rates appear to be much higher than here, think Silicon Valley, NYC. That gets publicity even on mainstream media, and distorts what SBs perceive to be normal.

2. SA propaganda is that the world is full of whales, and they can get hundreds for just looking pretty, let alone opening their legs. That influences SB perception. I have communicated with a fair number who seem really convinced that they just have to sit back, and 4-5 k per month will be theirs.

3. Those who need cash tend to be realistic, but a large percentage of the SBs are (I think) just chancing their arm. That is, they don't need the money (or don't seem to), and are happy to text, in the off-chance that a whale will come along. (They also think whales are more common than they really are, see 2.).

4. The FOSTA inspired death of various outlets has put up escort prices, seemingly leading to a flood of Johns into the SB world, Johns who are used to paying a lot more for very little.[/QUOTE]About 1 - my bowl buddy moved from NYC to Nashville. He said the incredible numbers of high quality SBs in NYC made competition fierce, and prices more reasonable. He is disappointed in the smaller market of Nashville, lots of high prices.

[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;5080315]Agreed that you can find deals out there. I have a recurring sb for 2 per meet. But it is also like a needle in the haystack. It's all about your budget and tolerance for missing out. Now what I don't understand in the girls expecting 800 and up.[/QUOTE]Yeah I've found a few willing to meet up for $$ but I want bare with CIP and they said they weren't my girl 😧.

I also had some message me out of the blue by text that they are ready to meet, but the texts arrive at odd hours in the day when I am not available. It is like trying to find a needle in the haystack. Working from home has got me bored out of my mind, but at the least the gym is open. I'll have to attempt approaching the ladies always working on their glutes. 😜.

I did go on escortbabylon and met a young 22 yr from Vegas for $. 6 hhr that had the softest skin, butt and nice Ds, but she freaked out when I started licking on her nipples. It was still a decent experience since she was so soft, but need more intimacy. One SB said she offers covered sex, kissing, but no BJ for $$$ for hour ppm. I'll keep looking for that bare CIP, blow my mind sex. Happy hunting bros no stay safe!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e36c1af9-73fe-493c-b2e7-daa5455a58b0[/URL]

She wants $500 weekly allowance and told her my budget is $300. She is my ideal type, but not sure how she would perform. I need a freak, but GND looks. Guess that is every SD wish. Maybe Santa will be nice for Christmas 😜.

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5080738]Yeah I've found a few willing to meet up for $$ but I want bare with CIP and they said they weren't my girl 😧.

I also had some message me out of the blue by text that they are ready to meet, but the texts arrive at odd hours in the day when I am not available. It is like trying to find a needle in the haystack. Working from home has got me bored out of my mind, but at the least the gym is open. I'll have to attempt approaching the ladies always working on their glutes. 😜.

I did go on escortbabylon and met a young 22 yr from Vegas for $. 6 hhr that had the softest skin, butt and nice Ds, but she freaked out when I started licking on her nipples. It was still a decent experience since she was so soft, but need more intimacy. One SB said she offers covered sex, kissing, but no BJ for $$$ for hour ppm. I'll keep looking for that bare CIP, blow my mind sex. Happy hunting bros no stay safe![/QUOTE]I usually don't ask. Sometimes that freaks them out. I might make a comment about being clean and baby proof, but sometimes you just have to play it by ear. You also have to be willing to take risks. Without risk there is no chance to come out big. So you have to be willing to occasionally come up with just an okay experience or even a total miss.

So to keep everyone updated. I've made arrangements with 2 SB for bare fun, but they both wanted $300 for an hour and I'd have to find hotel. So we will see how it pans out. The first is a Latina that said she is thick and sent a pic, she has the body shape of a coke bottle and I stated that is a nice thick 😉. She is out of town and supposed to coordinate something next week.

I just finished a M&G with a half Filipina / Japanese 20 year old that is supposed to coordinate a FC session later this week. It is entertaining eating around other people in an outdoor setting and discussing plans for later with others in earshot. She said she prefers protection, but I said I prefer not to. She replied that she didn't like butt play so I said fine 👍 I tried to strike when the iron was hot, but she has a previous engagement to attend tonight. Hope it pans out and get to see what is under that dress. All my M&G have had the ladies wearing shirts that show their cleavage which is nice distraction.

I've done the shotgun approach to setup M&G and having a hard time following up with the SB as they all want their COVID stimulus check. They are not good with communication as I get responses a couple hours to a couple days later. I get busy and forget to follow up which results in them blocking me. It has turned into a job, but I shouldn't have to chase TnA if I'm providing the funding. A really hot viet lady wanted $400 and wouldn't give specifics on what would go down, but stuck to my guns of $300 and then she blocked me. She probably wouldn't do bare, but seems activity is picking up since the holidays are coming fast and furious. I may have to juggle a few and toss the ones that don't blow my socks off.

I've learned not to pay for gas money or half their Uber ride as the VA forums are very educational and entertaining. It seems most want to sell their photos, vids, and outfits for the M&G to which I respond that money will not be exchanged until an arrangement has been made and I'm satisfied. SA seems to be a risky venture, but definitely is panning out meeting ladies half your age. Hope to seal the deal in the near future. Happy hunting and stay safe!

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5086351].... but they both wanted $300 for an hour and I'd have to find hotel. So we will see how it pans out.[/QUOTE]Did you specify an hour, or they did?

If they did, then they are not SBs but pros. SBs don't quote by the hour.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5086391]Did you specify an hour, or they did?

If they did, then they are not SBs but pros. SBs don't quote by the hour.[/QUOTE]They quoted 30 min. , but I said hour. It seems like they are using google like us to figure out their rates. Found [URL]https://sugardaddyy.com/guide/sugar-baby-allowance[/URL].

I'll see how things go and if they are not worth the $ then keep moving to next one.

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5086398]They quoted 30 min. , but I said hour. It seems like they are using google like us to figure out their rates. Found [URL]https://sugardaddyy.com/guide/sugar-baby-allowance[/URL].

I'll see how things go and if they are not worth the $ then keep moving to next one.[/QUOTE]Your whole approach is that of picking up an escort type woman, and that is what you are getting.

[QUOTE=PussyPumper;5086416]Your whole approach is that of picking up an escort type woman, and that is what you are getting.[/QUOTE]Yeah, guess I need to work on my approach. I've had some try to say they would snuggle or talk my ear off, but I want to clearly outline what is going to happen for how much makes it worth their time. One day I will find the unicorn that will accept $300 for an overnight with bare action. I'll see after the first meet to see if it is worth the $. Monthly fun budget is $2 k, so got to stretch it out for maximum ROI. 🤔 $2k overseas takes you further with abundance of hotties. 😋

[QUOTE=Koolbeans;5086436]Yeah, guess I need to work on my approach. I've had some try to say they would snuggle or talk my ear off, but I want to clearly outline what is going to happen for how much makes it worth their time. One day I will find the unicorn that will accept $300 for an overnight with bare action. I'll see after the first meet to see if it is worth the $. Monthly fun budget is $2 k, so got to stretch it out for maximum ROI. 🤔 $2k overseas takes you further with abundance of hotties. 😋[/QUOTE]For reference, I've never once done a meet and greet and have closed dozens. And it would be more if I didn't live in far north county. Girls act like north county might as well be Seattle. All of whom I CIP. I've found the best way to ask is if they're on birth control. Lots of information from that simple question. And you'd be surprised how many of them insist on condoms and then change their minds once you're inside them. I have several that don't expect any allowance at all.

By the way, there seems to be an influx of fake accounts all with the same profile naming convention. Usually a name followed by four numbers. So holly1234 for example. They also tend to only have exactly one sentence written in their "about me section" and it is appropriately vague.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b62293b7-41dd-4ff9-81c7-99acf22ad61c[/URL]

This one was a lot cuter in person. $300 and CIP.

I got an email this morning saying there is a Holiday discount of 33% off membership, until Monday.

However, when I go to the Upgrade page, the discount does not show. It always showed automatically with previous offers. Using the link in the offer email similarly fails to bring up the discount.

Anyone else having this issue?

[QUOTE=Splenda;5086959]For reference, I've never once done a meet and greet and have closed dozens. And it would be more if I didn't live in far north county. Girls act like north county might as well be Seattle. All of whom I CIP. I've found the best way to ask is if they're on birth control. Lots of information from that simple question. And you'd be surprised how many of them insist on condoms and then change their minds once you're inside them. I have several that don't expect any allowance at all.

By the way, there seems to be an influx of fake accounts all with the same profile naming convention. Usually a name followed by four numbers. So holly1234 for example. They also tend to only have exactly one sentence written in their "about me section" and it is appropriately vague.[/QUOTE]Yeah I'll have to try and get them to the FC and then test it out. I hate having to pull out. So the ladies don't expect payment / allowance? You just entertain them through wining, dining, and activities? The reason for trying out SA is trying to find ladies with lower mileage and reduce the likelihood of catching something, but nothing some pills and shots won’t fix. Thailand and Dubai were some wild times and would love to find a bi couple. One could be riding me while the other is riding my face 😊 I will probably have to try those Mexican threesomes if this SA deal doesn’t pan out. I got the 3 month one pay membership and probably won’t renew. Hope to find that reliable GFE soon.