[QUOTE=AeroStartC;4738041]Smart move to walk. Sorry about the older woman, but normally they are younger. As always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]With a 180 BBFS I wasn't expecting much, but even I have my standards. She looked more like she was the mamasan.
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[QUOTE=AeroStartC;4738041]Smart move to walk. Sorry about the older woman, but normally they are younger. As always, YMMV.[/QUOTE]With a 180 BBFS I wasn't expecting much, but even I have my standards. She looked more like she was the mamasan.
[QUOTE=SteakTartare;4737844]This is because you are all using burner apps downloaded to your private personal phone. I never shit in my own backyard, so I don't mix business with pleasure. My real phone is my lifeline, what I use to make tons of money to support my lifestyle. If it ever gets confiscated, there is ZERO history on it regarding my hobbying. I found a brand new smart phone on eBay for like 20 bucks. I got a TracFone BYOP SIM kit from Best Buy, activated two accounts, then popped the ATT and T-mobile SIM on this phone, each with a different area code that I can change 4 X a month. I also downloaded TextMe and Text Free apps on this phone. So this burner phone has 2 real numbers and 2 virtual Android numbers, and has no connection at all to my real life and identity. Let's see the fucking Chinese hack into it ha ha ha. Even if they do, so what? My real name ain't Long Dong Silver, which is the Google account used for my Android phone, or something to that effect.
Here is a picture of my pussy phone with 4 different phone numbers in it, all anonymous, all secret, only used for my extra-curricular activities, with no connection to my real life.
Steak.[/QUOTE]This is definitely much better than a burner app indeed, but just to be clear, this will definitely protect you against hackers and blackmailers, but not against cops if you do something really bad (not talking about seeing prostitutes, they would never put on full resources to catch a regular john, unless he slept with a minor maybe). They could technically find out where the calls were made from by looking which towers the phone used, but that would take a lot of work from them as this is not precise and they will have to match phone calls location with outdoor cameras and look at probably hundred of records, really time consuming. They could also see which IP you used if connected via your personal Wi-Fi, and even public ones should be avoided, so definitely good to get a SIM card on this burner phone and not just use a smartphone that you connect to hotspots. But they would only deploy this kind of resource to catch a murdered or a drug lord or some shit, not a simple john, but just wanted to mention that in these days we are not as anonymous as we think we are. If LE really wants to catch someone, they will, it all depends on how much resource they want to spend on this. For catching johns to meet their quota, they only need to put a fake ad and wait in a hotel, so they won't bother trying to catch the ones that are even just a little bit careful. And it's like anti-theft devices, they don't exist, all we can buy are theft-delaying devices, and the more expensive a device is, the longer it takes to get rid of it, thus discouraging smaller thieves. I think same goes with cops and precautions one takes to hide his identity with burner phones and stuff like that.
But my take is that most of the people here do this to hide their hobby from their relatives, friends and coworkers, and indeed for that Steak's solution is probably the best. I'm only using a burner app because I don't want to share my real number, but I'm not hiding my hobby from any relatives, so I don't really care if my identity gets leaked somehow. But if it's really that easy to find out a real number from a burner phone number, then that is different, I tried to look up online for tools that do that but didn't find anything.
What you said is 100% correct, but I am not worried about LE devoting hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars to nail me. I am not a billionaire owner of an NFL team who likes to get happy endings at local AMP's. I am more concerned about pimps using technology to blackmail and out me to my family, which is something all of you need to think about when you send that "picture verification holding 2 fingers" to your favorite hooker. As the other mongers already pointed out, it wasn't that hard for the Asian pimps to reverse engineer and backtrack your apps to your real name and real phone number.
Steak.
[QUOTE=Cubico;4738484] in these days we are not as anonymous as we think we are. If LE really wants to catch someone, they will.[/QUOTE]
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Nikki, 20's non-white BBW, very eager for creampies and seems to have an impregnation fetish. While her post history on that number is scant, she's been around for a couple of years at least. Used to be downtown, now in Mission Valley.
[QUOTE=FeelingGood;4738703][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6196256695/1[/URL]Nikki, 20's non-white BBW, very eager for creampies and seems to have an impregnation fetish. While her post history on that number is scant, she's been around for a couple of years at least. Used to be downtown, now in Mission Valley.[/QUOTE]Nikki: BBFSCIP.
I believe in her previous BP ads she said she is Hawaiian. Photos below from her old ads.
She registered at HX in 2014 as "dirtypillows" but did not post an ad and has no one in her network.
[QUOTE=Cubico;4738484]This is definitely much better than a burner app indeed, but just to be clear, this will definitely protect you against hackers and blackmailers, but not against cops if you do something really bad (not talking about seeing prostitutes, they would never put on full resources to catch a regular john, unless he slept with a minor maybe). They could technically find out where the calls were made from by looking which towers the phone used, but that would take a lot of work from them as this is not precise and they will have to match phone calls location with outdoor cameras and look at probably hundred of records, really time consuming. They could also see which IP you used if connected via your personal Wi-Fi, and even public ones should be avoided, so definitely good to get a SIM card on this burner phone and not just use a smartphone that you connect to hotspots. But they would only deploy this kind of resource to catch a murdered or a drug lord or some shit, not a simple john, but just wanted to mention that in these days we are not as anonymous as we think we are. If LE really wants to catch someone, they will, it all depends on how much resource they want to spend on this. For catching johns to meet their quota, they only need to put a fake ad and wait in a hotel, so they won't bother trying to catch the ones that are even just a little bit careful. And it's like anti-theft devices, they don't exist, all we can buy are theft-delaying devices, and the more expensive a device is, the longer it takes to get rid of it, thus discouraging smaller thieves. I think same goes with cops and precautions one takes to hide his identity with burner phones and stuff like that.
But my take is that most of the people here do this to hide their hobby from their relatives, friends and coworkers, and indeed for that Steak's solution is probably the best. I'm only using a burner app because I don't want to share my real number, but I'm not hiding my hobby from any relatives, so I don't really care if my identity gets leaked somehow. But if it's really that easy to find out a real number from a burner phone number, then that is different, I tried to look up online for tools that do that but didn't find anything.[/QUOTE]Speaking from experience, LE typically doesn't backtrack sex crimes unless you've hurt the worker. Even then you'd be more at risk with her pimp or agency. What LE does do is setup stings using internet sites (how they get away with it without shutting down the site I have no idea as it seems like they aid criminal activity doing this) or catching you picking up a streetwalker. When caught they record the phone number you used to place the call making burners key (they even go so far as to call the number to make sure you gave the correct number to them). So if you partake again with the same number, it could land you in a lot of trouble even if you don't actually go through with it. Unless you rent cars frequently, pimps can find out enough information about you using your license plate / vin number if you travel to see someone. Bottom line, unless you go to TJ (not possible with CV rn) your personal information can get in the wrong hands through other sources besides just cell phones.
[QUOTE=FeelingGood;4738703][URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_list/6196256695/1[/URL]
Nikki, 20's non-white BBW, very eager for creampies and seems to have an impregnation fetish. While her post history on that number is scant, she's been around for a couple of years at least. Used to be downtown, now in Mission Valley.[/QUOTE]If you like them big, she's worth a shot. Friendly, but does have a verbal screening process. The impregnation thing is just her sale story. She's not really looking to get pregnant.
[QUOTE=PaytoPlay;4738408]With a 180 BBFS I wasn't expecting much, but even I have my standards. She looked more like she was the mamasan.[/QUOTE]Hot or miss on these girls. Sometimes you get a 4, sometimes a 7. Low risk / high risk with them tho. Low risk in that the agencies do a good job keeping them clean and if they trust you will send you texts which you could argue in a court they contacted you should you get in trouble. High risk is you're in a trafficking db. With the amounts of ads they post, only a matter of time.
I mitigate this by doing a sit rep on the hotel before announcing I have arrived. If there is an adjacent property or strip mall, that is where I park, contact the hoe / pimp I am there, then walk to the hotel. If there is no adjacent property, I park a block away, switch my license plates to a fake temporary paper plate which takes me about 2 minutes, then park at the hotel with my vehicle looking like just bought from a dealer waiting for the DMV to get their shit together. And my VIN in the left side of the dahboard is covered by a black piece of cardboard. Yeah Mr. Pimp, good luck on running my plates.
But my BEST defense against getting blackmailed by pimps is simply avoiding Asian hoes and bait-switch Asian agencies all together. Every one knows the incall you go to already recorded your every move before you even approach their parking lot. We all know they collect and store massive personal info and intel on their customers. No thanks.
Steak.
[QUOTE=CipFinder;4739113] Unless you rent cars frequently, pimps can find out enough information about you using your license plate / vin number if you travel to see someone. Bottom line, unless you go to TJ (not possible with CV rn) your personal information can get in the wrong hands through other sources besides just cell phones.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ZooGuy1959;4738822]Nikki: BBFSCIP.
I believe in her previous BP ads she said she is Hawaiian. Photos below from her old ads.
She registered at HX in 2014 as "dirtypillows" but did not post an ad and has no one in her network.[/QUOTE]I've reached out to her many times and never gotten a response.
Anyone know if Farrah from FEC is BBFS friendly? I've seen reviews that say lots of P2 P so I was wondering if anyone's had any luck.
[QUOTE=SteakTartare;4740011]I mitigate this by doing a sit rep on the hotel before announcing I have arrived. If there is an adjacent property or strip mall, that is where I park, contact the hoe / pimp I am there, then walk to the hotel. If there is no adjacent property, I park a block away, switch my license plates to a fake temporary paper plate which takes me about 2 minutes, then park at the hotel with my vehicle looking like just bought from a dealer waiting for the DMV to get their shit together. And my VIN in the left side of the dahboard is covered by a black piece of cardboard. Yeah Mr. Pimp, good luck on running my plates.
But my BEST defense against getting blackmailed by pimps is simply avoiding Asian hoes and bait-switch Asian agencies all together. Every one knows the incall you go to already recorded your every move before you even approach their parking lot. We all know they collect and store massive personal info and intel on their customers. No thanks.
Steak.[/QUOTE]Damn, not criticizing but wow, that is definitely going quite far on taking precautions, but definitely understand if blackmail is a risk for you. I don't care much if my family, friends or coworkers learned about my hobby (would prefer not but no big deal if that happens), and don't have a monogamous girlfriend right now, but completely understand people being very careful. I just wanted to add that regarding parking the car further away from the location, it has another advantage but only if far enough. In case someone gets caught by LE, if in addition his car was also parked within 1000 ft from the hooker's location, he can get his driver's license suspended for up to 30 days. 1000 ft is not much of a walk, and if it can help preventing loosing a job because the DL was suspended after an arrest, it's worth the exercise. And if it also avoids a pimp running your license plates, even better, although I'm wondering how pimps can run license plates, wouldn't they need a contact in the police for that? I doubt anybody can easily find out a real name of a person just using his license plate number, but I guess criminals can be really resourceful.
As for the burner app, I know someone who almost got some issues. I don't really know the whole story, but all I know is that guy was using the Burner app (that's the name of the app) and cops had to get a warrant on Burner to get that guy's real name, so doesn't seem that easy to me. Could be that cops only got a warrant to make sure everything was official and lawful (although they were not trying to convict him, they needed him to convict someone else apparently), but I don't think it's that easy to reverse search a number from a real burner app (but not google voice or the likes). Not sure what app MadGypsy has been using, but if using the burner app, I doubt this hooker found his real name and number just running his fake burner number on a random phone number lookup website, he either used another app like google voice (which I think would be easier to trace back to the real owner, google knows and shares everything about you unless you explicitly tell them not to) or she used some other info she got from him. I think if you are only trying to hide from relatives and coworkers, a burner app is pretty safe. But if I were hiding that from someone I was married to though, I would definitely use the same precautions that steak is taking, because a divorce will probably be handled in a court and a warrant would probably be easily granted to get all the info the SO's party would need from any burner app. And I feel like even just having a burner app on your phone could give probable cause to the other party in a court.
[QUOTE=MartyMcFly0;4740671]Anyone know if Farrah from FEC is BBFS friendly? I've seen reviews that say lots of P2 P so I was wondering if anyone's had any luck.[/QUOTE]I have never used FEC, but never heard BBFS reports on this forum from any of the girls there, one reason I actually never tried this agency. Although I think there was actually one report saying one girl offered it for an extra 100, which would be too much for me to bother going. The other reason is that apparently getting in the facility is a pain in the ass and not discreet at all. But I would definitely be ok with that latter issue if I knew a girl there was a potential BBFS without extra charge, even if not a sure thing.
Never give up plausible deniability just for a few minutes of rented pussy. The more you have to lose financially and professionally, the more paranoid you should be. I try to be as methodical and calculating as possible when it comes to hobbying. Every one is my prey, and I am a stealthy hunter. That is why I do not fuck SW's because in that situation, I am not the predator. The UC vice, decoys, and the pimps are.
Steak.
[QUOTE=Cubico;4740896]Damn, not criticizing but wow, that is definitely going quite far on taking precautions, but definitely understand if blackmail is a risk for you. I don't care much if my family, friends or coworkers learned about my hobby (would prefer not but no big deal if that happens), and don't have a monogamous girlfriend right now, but completely understand people being very careful. I just wanted to add that regarding parking the car further away from the location, it has another advantage but only if far enough. In case someone gets caught by LE, if in addition his car was also parked within 1000 ft from the hooker's location, he can get his driver's license suspended for up to 30 days. 1000 ft is not much of a walk, and if it can help preventing loosing a job because the DL was suspended after an arrest, it's worth the exercise. And if it also avoids a pimp running your license plates, even better, although I'm wondering how pimps can run license plates, wouldn't they need a contact in the police for that? I doubt anybody can easily find out a real name of a person just using his license plate number, but I guess criminals can be really resourceful.
As for the burner app, I know someone who almost got some issues. I don't really know the whole story, but all I know is that guy was using the Burner app (that's the name of the app) and cops had to get a warrant on Burner to get that guy's real name, so doesn't seem that easy to me. Could be that cops only got a warrant to make sure everything was official and lawful (although they were not trying to convict him, they needed him to convict someone else apparently), but I don't think it's that easy to reverse search a number from a real burner app (but not google voice or the likes).[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SteakTartare;4740011]I mitigate this by doing a sit rep on the hotel before announcing I have arrived. If there is an adjacent property or strip mall, that is where I park, contact the hoe / pimp I am there, then walk to the hotel. If there is no adjacent property, I park a block away, switch my license plates to a fake temporary paper plate which takes me about 2 minutes, then park at the hotel with my vehicle looking like just bought from a dealer waiting for the DMV to get their shit together. And my VIN in the left side of the dahboard is covered by a black piece of cardboard. Yeah Mr. Pimp, good luck on running my plates.
But my BEST defense against getting blackmailed by pimps is simply avoiding Asian hoes and bait-switch Asian agencies all together. Every one knows the incall you go to already recorded your every move before you even approach their parking lot. We all know they collect and store massive personal info and intel on their customers. No thanks.
Steak.[/QUOTE]Dang you think even with SDAG that stuff could be a problem?