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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2934798]Hi, all. I have benefited greatly from reading through your posts, and hope to make a contribution to you. I have almost always been extremely careful about my online presence, as my SO is a suspicious type (ex cheated on her in a particularly vicious way, and she has suspected me of 10000 of the last 5 times I stepped out on her). Anyway, I only ever use the Tor web browser, and I don't have it on my actual computer. It's on a thumb drive. I also use its private windows, so it never stores anything (history, cookies, bookmarks) on my machine. I have checked. My SO isn't savvy enough to find such files, but if she took my computer to a geek they could likely find them if they were there. Anyway, Tor maintains your anonymity by bouncing your IP address around the world a few times. I am amazed when I get a notice on a site that says I am logged in from Kazakhstan. There are many sites that track your IP address, and unless you are logging in from an internet cafe, they will always have some knowledge of you. I make it a practice to NEVER use anything other than Tor when I am accessing illicit sites. Using a regular web browser just once potentially exposes you. I also use Hushmail. They don't track you and the service is free so long as you log in once every three weeks. I know you don't get those goodies that other free email provides, but keeping my ass out of a sling and a courtroom is pretty important, too. I do log into Hushmail using Tor. It is a little slower because even at the speed of light it takes some time for your signal to get around the world.
[/QUOTE]If you have a super suspicious spouse then you probably have to go in super stealth mode and take every precaution. Especially if you have a lot to lose.

But I also think there has to be a happy medium between super stealth mode and convenience / accessibility. If you have to jump through ten hoops on one leg while reciting the prime numbers in reverse order to check your illicit messages, then chances are some point when you're in a rush or feeling lazy, you're going to skip those steps and access the messages in an insecure way. You'll let your guard down further and only access your messages securely half the time, eventually you make a major slip-up and you're busted. Or even more simply your wife catches you jumping through a hoop on one leg and asks you what the fuck you're doing (ie. She sees you booting up the TOR browser).

So I think it's important to find a secure way but also a relatively convenient / accessible way to access illicit content. This way you're more likely to be consistent with it, which is actually more important. As you know, the common tale goes, most guys get busted "leaving the VHS tape in the VCR". Not because the wife found it hidden in the dry wall. Most of my close calls have been due to similar carelessness on my part.

This is very useful to know. I wish there was a dedicated section on this site for such stealth tips.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2934798]Hi, all. I have benefited greatly from reading through your posts, and hope to make a contribution to you. I have almost always been extremely careful about my online presence, as my SO is a suspicious type (ex cheated on her in a particularly vicious way, and she has suspected me of 10000 of the last 5 times I stepped out on her). Anyway, I only ever use the Tor web browser, and I don't have it on my actual computer. It's on a thumb drive. I also use its private windows, so it never stores anything (history, cookies, bookmarks) on my machine. I have checked. My SO isn't savvy enough to find such files, but if she took my computer to a geek they could likely find them if they were there. Anyway, Tor maintains your anonymity by bouncing your IP address around the world a few times. I am amazed when I get a notice on a site that says I am logged in from Kazakhstan. There are many sites that track your IP address, and unless you are logging in from an internet cafe, they will always have some knowledge of you. I make it a practice to NEVER use anything other than Tor when I am accessing illicit sites. Using a regular web browser just once potentially exposes you. I also use Hushmail. They don't track you and the service is free so long as you log in once every three weeks. I know you don't get those goodies that other free email provides, but keeping my ass out of a sling and a courtroom is pretty important, too. I do log into Hushmail using Tor. It is a little slower because even at the speed of light it takes some time for your signal to get around the world.
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LOL. Very true. When watching porn or checking out monger sites I've always used "private" browser mode. Ofcourse, nothing gets stored in the 'history'. However, when I casually open the laptop next day morning I've caught myself on several occasions opening to a porn site or a monger site because I forgot to close out all the tabs or clear out every trace. These days I use a separate partition (Guest) on the computer for such use so that everything is "contained" in there. And all history and traces get cleared out once the user logs out of the Guest partition.

[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;2935943]If you have to jump through ten hoops on one leg while reciting the prime numbers in reverse order to check your illicit messages, then chances are some point when you're in a rush or feeling lazy, you're going to skip those steps and access the messages in an insecure way. You'll let your guard down further and only access your messages securely half the time, eventually you make a major slip-up and you're busted. Or even more simply your wife catches you jumping through a hoop on one leg and asks you what the fuck you're doing (ie. She sees you booting up the TOR browser).

As you know, the common tale goes, most guys get busted "leaving the VHS tape in the VCR".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lebruno;2936134]LOL. Very true. When watching porn or checking out monger sites I've always used "private" browser mode. Ofcourse, nothing gets stored in the 'history'. However, when I casually open the laptop next day morning I've caught myself on several occasions opening to a porn site or a monger site because I forgot to close out all the tabs or clear out every trace. These days I use a separate partition (Guest) on the computer for such use so that everything is "contained" in there. And all history and traces get cleared out once the user logs out of the Guest partition.[/QUOTE]Eh, I use CCLeaner on the laptop / desktop. I have it set up to clear history, session, cache, download history, form information, etc. So every time I "log off" I just fire up CCleaner and select the "shutdown after cleaning" option. Use the Secure file deletion of at least one overwrite and there might not be any "shadow" that some Geek can pull off the space between tracks.

Now that said, I see OP mentioning a fake Facebook account. Sure wish someone could give me some tips! My last FB account got flagged by FB some how and they requested Gubmint I'd to keep it. Obviously I couldn't do that since it was a fake name. Then when I got a new burner phone, I set up new email accounts, forced ISP to give me a new IP address and set up a new GV account. Don't try to use a GV account when setting up a FB account as that gets you flagged and a request for Gubmint I'd. So with the new number on the burner phone, I set up a new FB page. Sure enough within a couple of weeks FB flagged that account. Sigh.

Not sure what I did wrong. I often use Gmail and open multiple gmail accounts in different FF tabs using the "add account" button. Does FB have some way of "seeing" that and thus suspecting a fake account?

So how does one set up and maintain a fake FB account without falling into the "provide Gubmint I'd" hole? PM me if you wish to keep tips confidential.

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Now that said, I see OP mentioning a fake Facebook account. Sure wish someone could give me some tips! My last FB account got flagged by FB some how and they requested Gubmint I'd to keep it. Obviously I couldn't do that since it was a fake name. Then when I got a new burner phone, I set up new email accounts, forced ISP to give me a new IP address and set up a new GV account. Don't try to use a GV account when setting up a FB account as that gets you flagged and a request for Gubmint I'd. So with the new number on the burner phone, I set up a new FB page. Sure enough within a couple of weeks FB flagged that account. Sigh.

Not sure what I did wrong. I often use Gmail and open multiple gmail accounts in different FF tabs using the "add account" button. Does FB have some way of "seeing" that and thus suspecting a fake account?

So how does one set up and maintain a fake FB account without falling into the "provide Gubmint I'd" hole? PM me if you wish to keep tips confidential.[/QUOTE]Did you have any friends when your fake FB account got shutdown?

My fake FB account has been active for over 4 years and I has over 40-50 friends. A little over half of those are actual SBs or pots that I managed to get them to friend me. The rest were random people to help pad my account. Once you get a few friends, then it gets easier to add people who might be mutual friends of the SB. Then mutual friends of those mutual friends and so on. Now my account looks pretty legit.

Granted, when I started my fake FB account several years ago maybe Facebook was less strict than they are now. Still, I recommend trying to add 5-10 friends as quickly as possible. Maybe create a fake Gmail account and add some SB phone numbers to your contact list. Then import that contact list into your fake FB account. Facebook will then be able to give you a list of suggested friends. Send a few friend requests to some of them and hopefully you'll get lucky and a few will accept.

Also just about every site including Facebook tracks your IP address. So opening multiple tabs in FF is pointless because you'll still appear as one user according to their system. Since your FB account keeps getting flagged, you probably want to login to a different WiFi network and then attempt to create a new FB account. And once it's created make sure you do some normal FB activity, not just looking up names.

I can vouch that I opened a fake fb account as recent as 6 months ago and have no problems. I recently created a fake vk account and linked it to fb. And, yes, I've been able to add several friends. Yes. I think FB does collect information around your IP address and look into your address book contacts on your cell phone or computer. So, you will do yourself a big favor by accessing FB in private mode on the browser and not via the installed FB App.

[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;2937140]Did you have any friends when your fake FB account got shutdown?

My fake FB account has been active for over 4 years and I has over 40-50 friends. A little over half of those are actual SBs or pots that I managed to get them to friend me. The rest were random people to help pad my account. Once you get a few friends, then it gets easier to add people who might be mutual friends of the SB. Then mutual friends of those mutual friends and so on. Now my account looks pretty legit.

Granted, when I started my fake FB account several years ago maybe Facebook was less strict than they are now. Still, I recommend trying to add 5-10 friends as quickly as possible. Maybe create a fake Gmail account and add some SB phone numbers to your contact list. Then import that contact list into your fake FB account. Facebook will then be able to give you a list of suggested friends. Send a few friend requests to some of them and hopefully you'll get lucky and a few will accept.

Also just about every site including Facebook tracks your IP address. So opening multiple tabs in FF is pointless because you'll still appear as one user according to their system. Since your FB account keeps getting flagged, you probably want to login to a different WiFi network and then attempt to create a new FB account. And once it's created make sure you do some normal FB activity, not just looking up names.[/QUOTE]

My new account on SA is bubbling with possibilities. Is there any trick to communicating while I haven't gotten upgraded to premium? I can't read their darn messages. I have just been replying and giving them my email. Is there a limit to the number of messages you can send per day? Does favoriting someone do anything? What should I take from them favoriting me?

I would like to toss out this idea to see what you experienced SDs think. At my gym, there is a nice outdoor pool hardly ever used. There are cabanas all along it that have a front curtain that can be tied. The other day when swimming in late morning, one was tied for a long time, and then I see one of the personal trainers (HOT body chick) exit, and then a minute later, one of the young maintenance guys. So, obviously, they were doing something in there. That inspired me. I could easily get most of what I need out of a SB in that setting. Completely private yet public. So, my idea is to give the SB $ to buy a membership in my gym, and we meet up there. The dues are $150/ mo or $2000/ yr. Way less than a series of notels. What is the downside of this that I am not yet seeing?

I had another idea I would like advice about. What do you think of giving the SB a Victoria's Secret gift card? It has the additional value of putting the relationship into the right frame of reference. Maybe not as sugar, but maybe at the M&G, to get the uncertain POTs to consider seriously what it is they are doing. I mean, no one gives their daughter a VickySecret gift card (well, maybe Donald Trump).

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2938262]My new account on SA is bubbling with possibilities. Is there any trick to communicating while I haven't gotten upgraded to premium? I can't read their darn messages. I have just been replying and giving them my email. Is there a limit to the number of messages you can send per day? Does favoriting someone do anything? What should I take from them favoriting me?

I would like to toss out this idea to see what you experienced SDs think. At my gym, there is a nice outdoor pool hardly ever used. There are cabanas all along it that have a front curtain that can be tied. The other day when swimming in late morning, one was tied for a long time, and then I see one of the personal trainers (HOT body chick) exit, and then a minute later, one of the young maintenance guys. So, obviously, they were doing something in there. That inspired me. I could easily get most of what I need out of a SB in that setting. Completely private yet public. So, my idea is to give the SB $ to buy a membership in my gym, and we meet up there. The dues are $150/ mo or $2000/ yr. Way less than a series of notels. What is the downside of this that I am not yet seeing?[/QUOTE]You have to pay for a membership. I am always at a loss as to why anyone even considers not getting one. You will rarely sate a girl that favorites you. And unless you are in constant need of semi-public sex, the gym idea will fizzle fast.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2938275]I had another idea I would like advice about. What do you think of giving the SB a Victoria's Secret gift card? It has the additional value of putting the relationship into the right frame of reference. Maybe not as sugar, but maybe at the M&G, to get the uncertain POTs to consider seriously what it is they are doing. I mean, no one gives their daughter a VickySecret gift card (well, maybe Donald Trump).[/QUOTE]A VS gift card is always a good idea. Pick out stuff together online.

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"For intimacy no less than $500".

I'm a sucker for beautiful lips (no pun intended) but she is obviously out of my league financially.

But it did lead me to realize that the girls that seem to be on constantly are just looking for the big fish. Just like the guys that are on constantly are either bargain hunting, kink hunting or unicorn hunting.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2939016]You have to pay for a membership. I am always at a loss as to why anyone even considers not getting one. You will rarely sate a girl that favorites you. And unless you are in constant need of semi-public sex, the gym idea will fizzle fast.[/QUOTE]Can I revisit "You will rarely sate a girl that favorites you" - was that a misprint / spellcheck error? Literally, I will never satisfy a girl who favorites me? Like, she is insatiable? Is that a good or bad thing? Or did you mean that I will rarely meet a girl who favorites me?

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2657778]The amount of good and easy to get pussy in Riverside, Moreno even Hemet. All those way far away places is staggering, because there are no guys. Like none, zero, nada. A $ to these girls is like mana from heaven. I refuse to drive out there anymore. Did it a few times. But now I am so spoiled by uber there is no chance of me going there. I am in hollywood. If I uber a girl from the hood (even down to the 105) its like .4 or so RT on average (slightly more at peak times) and I am saving like an hour and a half to two hours of my time. Plus the actual cost of me driving is at least half of that anyway.

My new UTR girl "N" (who I passed to one happy senior), has moved to pasadena. She is taking public transport to union station (7 minutes from me) and she is quite happy with the $ donation. She is a little tore up from bein a mom, but her pussy and ass rock. Plus I love her sweet and shy demeanor. At the moment I am getting a ton of girls responding, but haven't closed the deal on anyone new. Today I had to jerk it as all 3 of my regulars couldn't make it for a nooner and that was my only opening today.[/QUOTE]I want to revive this part of this thread. I WORK in Riverside, so I have access to everything in Riverside, Loma Linda, Moreno Valley, etc. I corresponded with a 21 YO in Perris today (latina) who looks fine. Please advise. Again, I OWE you, HG.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;2940384]I want to revive this part of this thread. I WORK in Riverside, so I have access to everything in Riverside, Loma Linda, Moreno Valley, etc. I corresponded with a 21 YO in Perris today (latina) who looks fine. Please advise. Again, I OWE you, HG.[/QUOTE]Not much to advise. Try corona. There are so many nice girls there. Anywhere from Sb to corona to riverside. You will own that place. Black and latina heaven. Latinas don't even like me (but the ones out there do). LOL. But I am mostly a homebody these days. Way too much work to be spending time out there. I am sure you will have a lot to report.

There's a girl on SA (Beachbabe and some digits) who has one profile photo *with her dad* - what do you think the chances are that she has issues? Also, it's Father's Day tomorrow. Sure to raise some feelings that we might benefit from.