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[QUOTE=Omfgitzjin;7113939]Finally decided to see what the hype was all about. Definitely worth it! For those of you who said she's in her late 20's or early 30's. She's actually probably early / mid 40's. She does have a baby face but she's got some age. However it does NOT take away from the one of the top BBBJ sessions I've had. This girl loves to suck and it shows. She even pushed me back down and said 'I'm not done yet'. She has a bit of a dom in her which was hot. Slurpy wet BBBJ for literally half the session. She did mention just 1 pop right? Which was a slight turn off. I like the girls to generally want to milk me dry with 2 shots (if I have it in me that day).

God bless the surgeon who did her tits. They're like perfect to her shape, big and soft. I think feel like a softer gummy bear? LOL.

Will repeat.[/QUOTE]Tifa is wonderful. Totally agree with you there. And, yes, those soft tits are the work of a true artist. But what makes you think she's in her mid-40's?

Granted, I'm horrible at guessing Asian ages. And you could be right. But still, she looks significantly younger than that to me. I could believe 35 or 36, but mid-40's? That seems like a stretch. I'm curious to know what leads you to that conclusion? (By the way, if Tifa is indeed in her mid-40's, then she's got to be one of the hottest cougars I've ever seen.).

Anyone had a girl lick their nose before?

It wasn't an accident either as she did it multiple times and with purpose. This girl is usually cute and playful so I didn't mind it but it kind of took me by surprise. Didn't expect that from a kgirl. LOL.

[QUOTE=InternDavid;7114593]Anyone had a girl lick their nose before?

It wasn't an accident either as she did it multiple times and with purpose. This girl is usually cute and playful so I didn't mind it but it kind of took me by surprise. Didn't expect that from a kgirl. LOL.[/QUOTE]Wla kmilfs lick you everywhere bro LOL.

[QUOTE=Vonabona;7114269]I was told my bookers that JiYoung and Lena will be offering duo soon, yum yum.[/QUOTE]How is Lena's body? Jiyoung was a one and done for me. Her body was bigger and boxier than I can tolerate.

[QUOTE=EyceeRaw;7114700]How is Lena's body? Jiyoung was a one and done for me. Her body was bigger and boxier than I can tolerate.[/QUOTE]You won't like lena if you didn't like jiyoung.

[QUOTE=EyceeRaw;7114700]How is Lena's body? Jiyoung was a one and done for me. Her body was bigger and boxier than I can tolerate.[/QUOTE]Lena is petite with good size D cups. Her skin can be a bit loose tummy and thighs. Face is cute MILF Service is A+ PSE If you click and you are a repeat customer the menu is a lot bigger than what is advertised. Definitely recommend.

[QUOTE=InternDavid;7114593]Anyone had a girl lick their nose before?

It wasn't an accident either as she did it multiple times and with purpose. This girl is usually cute and playful so I didn't mind it but it kind of took me by surprise. Didn't expect that from a kgirl. LOL.[/QUOTE]I can't recall a K Girl licking my nose, but Pepsi, when I used to see her years ago, licked my face. One K Girl was really into licking the inside of my ears LOL. Cici in Little Tokyo is infatuated with my eyes and she'll kiss my eyes.

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Lina Layla Sumatra Jiyoung Linda Celina Amy Sawtelle. Kate wilshire.

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[QUOTE=AsianAssEater;7114781]You won't like lena if you didn't like jiyoung.[/QUOTE]That's what I assumed. Thank you for confirming. Any chance Lena has a tighter body than Jiyoung though? I remember several reports of Jiyoung having a coke or hourglass body, but I didn't find that to be the case IMO.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7114539]Tifa is wonderful. Totally agree with you there. And, yes, those soft tits are the work of a true artist. But what makes you think she's in her mid-40's?

Granted, I'm horrible at guessing Asian ages. And you could be right. But still, she looks significantly younger than that to me. I could believe 35 or 36, but mid-40's? That seems like a stretch. I'm curious to know what leads you to that conclusion? (By the way, if Tifa is indeed in her mid-40's, then she's got to be one of the hottest cougars I've ever seen.).[/QUOTE]I can see it through the makeup, the voice, the laugh, the topics we talk about, and being in this hobby for a longggg time. Also being asian in my 40's myself. I can tell haha. She is a hot cougar and hides her age well. If I was new to the hobby and not asian, I could mistake her for early 30's.

[QUOTE=EyceeRaw;7114700]How is Lena's body? Jiyoung was a one and done for me. Her body was bigger and boxier than I can tolerate.[/QUOTE]I liked lena way more than jiyoung. Much cuter face and the tits are much better.

[QUOTE=Omfgitzjin;7115218]I can see it through the makeup, the voice, the laugh, the topics we talk about, and being in this hobby for a longggg time. Also being asian in my 40's myself. I can tell haha. She is a hot cougar and hides her age well. If I was new to the hobby and not asian, I could mistake her for early 30's.[/QUOTE]Alright, that makes sense. I'm not new to the hobby (16+ years), but I'm also a bit older than Tifa and not Asian, so I'm at a disadvantage. Years ago, I remember this super hot k-girl, Suvini, and I swore she was in her early 20's. Until one day she just flat out told me she was 30-something. Mid-30's, if I remember correctly. That was a huge shock and I had to admit to myself then, I cannot guess the age of Asian women. Not even within 10 years.

Reminds me of this old Wong Fu video.

[URL]https://youtu.be/91lYBbBkftA?si=NCFrB7_MQ4rG6cYU[/URL]

Now, don't tell me Nali isn't really 24?

Has anybody tried her yet?

Want to see if CIM is good to go and how far off she is from the ad pics.

Thought I'd give this new agency a try, and I'm happy to report this is another good one to keep in our black books. Saw Miya, whom I'd seen before through another agency. Since we'd seen each other before, it was nice to skip the first-time pleasantries and just be with someone familiar. DFK and BBBJ were good, as always, and then we moved to the fantastic BBBJ. One of the things I appreciate about her is the energy she brings. As we all know, with pretty much all K-girls offering BBFSCIP now (side note, how lucky are we now that this is the case? The differentiating factor is the personality and the service. And Miya brings both in spades, at least in my experiences with her. She is almost like a sex demon, always wanting to please and always wanting to be pleased. Always a good time with her, and though a second pop wasn't in the books for me, she still got me hard a second time and did her damndest to try to get a second load.

Definitely worth seeing!

[URL]https://ksecretdreams.com/models/miya[/URL]

She recommended me Layla and the service was top notch. She licked me top from bottom with some rimming action too. A fine addition to the WLA lineup.

[QUOTE=PogeyBait;7113018]Can confirm she's visually where you'd want a woman to be, esp as a spinner. Tight body and some nice tits that always look bigger / better on a small frame. Personally, I don't mind the plastic look since I have had my share of Gangnam beauty babes and it's almost like I'm fucking the same girl after awhile but it's not a bad thing imo.

[URL]https://asianvibe.is/models/rai%F0%9F%A9%B5/[/URL]

Service listings seemed to be accurate since I was able to get some really good BBBJ and rimming from her. Service wise, better than I expected given the warning by this post. Given she's a spinner, I always go in with the expectation she will not be able to truly deepthroat. She did get in like 80% though so I won't hit her on it, esp since she let me go in as hard as I wanted on her in doggy and letting me hold her up mid-air to ragdoll. Extra points for creaming a bunch as her first of the day. Love that shit.

Creampied her before getting fat tomorrow.

Happy Holidays, gents.[/QUOTE]Alright. Someone needs to provide some input, saw Rai. Perfect spinner body, maybe 4'11 - with plenty of meat on that ass. The spinner visual is insane that I couldn't peg an age from this one. Her body pegs me for <25, but those eyes and her consistent use of the word baby makes me think 40+.

Needless to say, if you're in the market for a spinner. This is the one. She's been around for a while based on her reviews elsewhere; surprised I didn't catch this one sooner! Seemed pretty open to some rougher plays but will judge some more next time I see this one. Had a great time with this one.

[QUOTE=Omfgitzjin;7115218]She is a hot cougar and hides her age well. If I was new to the hobby and not asian, I could mistake her for early 30's.[/QUOTE]I LOVE being fooled. Please fool me.

There is also the fact that some women put in the effort while others don't. At South Coast Plaza I passed many early 20's girls who look alright but would look like models if they simply tried enough. The raw materials are there. So they lose out to a few older women 25-35 who put in full effort. Makeup, hair, outfit, attitude and all. Now if a woman puts in the effort to make herself look one or two tiers better for me just so I can enjoy her even more, I bow down to her.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7115269]I'm at a disadvantage..I cannot guess the age of Asian women. Not even within 10 years.[/QUOTE]Blessed is the man who cannot tell and happily enjoys her just the same. Should a man enjoy a wine for its taste, or the label on the bottle?

I have never really cared the true age of a woman after meeting her, but it is simply a useful hint if I have not yet met her. This is since age correlates to attitude / personality as well as looks, so in the absence of other intel I know it is a good hint. It is common for an early 20's girl to have nice skin, and her body looks and feels great. Whatever the face, she looks better when she is young than in the future when she is old. But certainly a few 40's women look much better than some 20's women. A few.

My cutoff is women under 30's, with exceptions if the woman is simply beautiful. But others have told me they want 25 and under. And I informed them very clearly that the most beautiful women in OC and SD were in the 25-30 range, far more beautiful than their choices in the 20-25 range. It just happened to be that Ericka was in town and he was automatically ruling her out without a thought. Of course, the moment Ericka leaves town, the 20-25 girls will go back to being the better lookers. Just how it is. Let's not focus too hard on age, even though I'm the first to say it also matters.

Included are 3 random women over 30, 2 jgirls and 1 kgirls. If you follow their IG you can see hints of their "advanced age" but they still look solid since they put in the effort. Even though I am 80% targeting HYA, I'd rather have a beautiful woman over 30 than just any 'above average' looking HYA. But beautiful women like Ericka are rare, and even rarer for them to have an unblemished attitude. So I struggle and simply compromise by going after HYA instead. Don't worry, I'll be all right.

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7115475]I LOVE being fooled. Please fool me.

There is also the fact that some women put in the effort while others don't. At South Coast Plaza I passed many early 20's girls who look alright but would look like models if they simply tried enough. The raw materials are there. So they lose out to a few older women 25-35 who put in full effort. Makeup, hair, outfit, attitude and all. Now if a woman puts in the effort to make herself look one or two tiers better for me just so I can enjoy her even more, I bow down to her.

Blessed is the man who cannot tell and happily enjoys her just the same. Should a man enjoy a wine for its taste, or the label on the bottle?

I have never really cared the true age of a woman after meeting her, but it is simply a useful hint if I have not yet met her. This is since age correlates to attitude / personality as well as looks, so in the absence of other intel I know it is a good hint. It is common for an early 20's girl to have nice skin, and her body looks and feels great. Whatever the face, she looks better when she is young than in the future when she is old. But certainly a few 40's women look much better than some 20's women. A few.

My cutoff is women under 30's, with exceptions if the woman is simply beautiful. But others have told me they want 25 and under. And I informed them very clearly that the most beautiful women in OC and SD were in the 25-30 range, far more beautiful than their choices in the 20-25 range. It just happened to be that Ericka was in town and he was automatically ruling her out without a thought. Of course, the moment Ericka leaves town, the 20-25 girls will go back to being the better lookers. Just how it is. Let's not focus too hard on age, even though I'm the first to say it also matters.

Included are 3 random women over 30, 2 jgirls and 1 kgirls. If you follow their IG you can see hints of their "advanced age" but they still look solid since they put in the effort. Even though I am 80% targeting HYA, I'd rather have a beautiful woman over 30 than just any 'above average' looking HYA. But beautiful women like Ericka are rare, and even rarer for them to have an unblemished attitude. So I struggle and simply compromise by going after HYA instead. Don't worry, I'll be all right.[/QUOTE]Pyoapple has the most perfect Asian ass. Not too big but big enough and perfectly round, that thing would have the perfect clap in doggy ngl.

[QUOTE=Omfgitzjin;7115220]I liked lena way more than jiyoung. Much cuter face and the tits are much better.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EyceeRaw;7115181]That's what I assumed. Thank you for confirming. Any chance Lena has a tighter body than Jiyoung though? I remember several reports of Jiyoung having a coke or hourglass body, but I didn't find that to be the case IMO.[/QUOTE]Seen both, JY's pussy is tighter and nips are nicer. Lena got innies for them nips, not much to suck on.

Yes her body shape is awesome but her face reminds me of a middle age Korean actress who always play the mom (Bae Hae Sun) like 95%, LOL.

Possibly the worst Korg experience I have ever had. I gained entry and was greeted by this girl who was hunched over like she had a bad back. I figured out later that she may have been hunched over because she was advertised as 5'4" and 108 lbs. When, in fact, she was at least 5'9" 160 bs. With a homely face and a below-average body. I figured I was there, so let's get on with it. She attempted to shower me with a showerhead that put out high-speed water that felt like getting hit with a nail gun upon impact, and there was no other adjustment to the device. It was so bad, I couldn't tolerate it long enough to get the soap off, then to top it off the towel she gave me was so rough and hard that it felt like sandpaper. It was a perfect accompaniment to the shower for those into self-punishment which is not me. Off to the bedroom after wasting 10 minutes in the bathroom. She started lining out her sundries on one side of the bed: paper towels, lotion, etc. This took another few minutes as Quasimodo got ready. I thought maybe she is really good in the sack with a great BJ. Nope, I asked her to give me a BJ she took one suck and then had to spit in the paper towel. She then started an HJ. After 15 seconds of that, I had enough, got up and dressed, and texted Booker about this disaster. Total waste of time and money. Save yours and pass on this one or try and write about it.

I'm tryna book with an agency but since it's my first time do you guys have advice. Thanks in advance.

Looks like Miya is no longer there, but there are three new girls, Kori, Cream, and Cuban Betty, all who are listed with other agencies / bookers too. Always good to have another booker, since they don't always seem to be consistently around these days. I haven't seen Cuban Betty, but have seen Kori and Cream, and can definitely recommend them as worth seeing.

[QUOTE=JackHolly;7115348]Thought I'd give this new agency a try, and I'm happy to report this is another good one to keep in our black books. Saw Miya, whom I'd seen before through another agency. Since we'd seen each other before, it was nice to skip the first-time pleasantries and just be with someone familiar. DFK and BBBJ were good, as always, and then we moved to the fantastic BBBJ. One of the things I appreciate about her is the energy she brings. As we all know, with pretty much all K-girls offering BBFSCIP now (side note, how lucky are we now that this is the case? The differentiating factor is the personality and the service. And Miya brings both in spades, at least in my experiences with her. She is almost like a sex demon, always wanting to please and always wanting to be pleased. Always a good time with her, and though a second pop wasn't in the books for me, she still got me hard a second time and did her damndest to try to get a second load.

Definitely worth seeing!

[URL]https://ksecretdreams.com/models/miya[/URL][/QUOTE]

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Lina Layla Sumatra Jiyoung Linda Celina Amy Sawtelle. Kate wilshire.

BookerM. New meat listed in wla, Bella, has reviews on tee eee errr with mixed bag of reviews.

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[QUOTE=Vulcan1009;7115658]Seen both, JY's pussy is tighter and nips are nicer. Lena got innies for them nips, not much to suck on.

Yes her body shape is awesome but her face reminds me of a middle age Korean actress who always play the mom (Bae Hae Sun) like 95%, LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL I can definitely see that based on her pics and the usual P.S. Based on these reports, I think I can safely say that both Lena and JY are not my type so I'll avoid. Thanks all. Lena's pics sure were enticing though.

[QUOTE=NoobMaster2503;7115871]I'm tryna book with an agency but since it's my first time do you guys have advice. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Take a look here.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31240-Asian-PLEASER-discussion-forum-(please-post-reviews-in-the-review-forum)&p=7115875&viewfull=1#post7115875[/URL]

I'm focusing on NYC and Tokyo for a while, so I made sure to leave all the clues for others to follow. You have to figure the rest out. Still ten times easier than dating and oh here are some more saucy HX photos. They're old ads of girls who were DTF, do not PM me about them since they're old ads. Maybe 20% are bb, plenty of Whites, Latinas, Asians, blacks to choose from. You have to patiently watch HX ads for new girls, only you know what you like.

Finally she left norcal and is blessing us in LA with that nice ass.

For all you Tifa lovers did we ever find out if Tifa is og LA nicole? If she is she probably texted stacy telling her that la has good buisness rn. Well if Tifa and stacy end up offering duos that will confirm to Me that Tifa is og la nicole.

[QUOTE=EyceeRaw;7115992]LOL I can definitely see that based on her pics and the usual P.S. Based on these reports, I think I can safely say that both Lena and JY are not my type so I'll avoid. Thanks all. Lena's pics sure were enticing though.[/QUOTE]Lena: better body and better face.

Jiyoung: better service.

I prefer jiyoung because creamy coochie and riding is unmatched.

Did my own research and Tifa and stacy have the same upcharges so yeah based on my research Tifa is def og la nicole.

Also nuri, luna k, yaya, etc. Is also back if you want a MILF with mid tier service but a banging body.

[QUOTE=RockItAllNite;7115731]Possibly the worst Korg experience I have ever had. I gained entry and was greeted by this girl who was hunched over like she had a bad back. I figured out later that she may have been hunched over because she was advertised as 5'4" and 108 lbs. When, in fact, she was at least 5'9" 160 bs. With a homely face and a below-average body. I figured I was there, so let's get on with it. She attempted to shower me with a showerhead that put out high-speed water that felt like getting hit with a nail gun upon impact, and there was no other adjustment to the device. It was so bad, I couldn't tolerate it long enough to get the soap off, then to top it off the towel she gave me was so rough and hard that it felt like sandpaper. It was a perfect accompaniment to the shower for those into self-punishment which is not me. Off to the bedroom after wasting 10 minutes in the bathroom. She started lining out her sundries on one side of the bed: paper towels, lotion, etc. This took another few minutes as Quasimodo got ready. I thought maybe she is really good in the sack with a great BJ. Nope, I asked her to give me a BJ she took one suck and then had to spit in the paper towel. She then started an HJ. After 15 seconds of that, I had enough, got up and dressed, and texted Booker about this disaster. Total waste of time and money. Save yours and pass on this one or try and write about it.[/QUOTE]Very disappointed when door opened. Most J girl pics are real but this one is extreamly fake. Ugly big girl. Showing a very bad attitute once door opened. Didn't leave because I was stoned. BJ was worst like you said. The whole time during sex she was cursing in Japanese and tried to block dick from going deep. Not allowed to kiss nipple. NO even LFK. Felt like raping. Not allowed CIP. I exploded in her anyway and she complained to booker after that. Set alarm very early and crazily loud! Left felt extreamly annoyed!

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7115475]I LOVE being fooled. Please fool me.[/QUOTE]Same here. Looking back over the years, my favorite k-girls have always been around 30 to 35, but they look (to my old eyes) like they are in their early to mid-20's. And that's not just based on skills, but also based on beauty, confidence and attitude. There is something about a smokin' hot, 32-year-old Korean girl that is the most attractive thing in the world to me.

When I first meet them, I usually start out being totally convinced they are in their early 20's and then, eventually, you get to know them well enough, they show you their I'd or their passport, and, boom, you find out they are 32 years old. It's an amazing (and wonderful) trick!

Don't get me wrong, I still love the truly young ladies, like Nali and Arina. But if I think back over many years about the ones who are in my Top 10, K-girl Hall of Fame, none of them are in their early 20's. They tend to hit their peak, in looks and skills, somewhere in their 30's.

Is it necessary to blow up the Photo Gallery section with Add pics? I can see a few but wow!

[QUOTE=DownloadX;7115475]I LOVE being fooled. Please fool me.

There is also the fact that some women put in the effort while others don't. At South Coast Plaza I passed many early 20's girls who look alright but would look like models if they simply tried enough. The raw materials are there. So they lose out to a few older women 25-35 who put in full effort. Makeup, hair, outfit, attitude and all. Now if a woman puts in the effort to make herself look one or two tiers better for me just so I can enjoy her even more, I bow down to her.

Blessed is the man who cannot tell and happily enjoys her just the same. Should a man enjoy a wine for its taste, or the label on the bottle?

I have never really cared the true age of a woman after meeting her, but it is simply a useful hint if I have not yet met her. This is since age correlates to attitude / personality as well as looks, so in the absence of other intel I know it is a good hint. It is common for an early 20's girl to have nice skin, and her body looks and feels great. Whatever the face, she looks better when she is young than in the future when she is old. But certainly a few 40's women look much better than some 20's women. A few.

My cutoff is women under 30's, with exceptions if the woman is simply beautiful. But others have told me they want 25 and under. And I informed them very clearly that the most beautiful women in OC and SD were in the 25-30 range, far more beautiful than their choices in the 20-25 range. It just happened to be that Ericka was in town and he was automatically ruling her out without a thought. Of course, the moment Ericka leaves town, the 20-25 girls will go back to being the better lookers. Just how it is. Let's not focus too hard on age, even though I'm the first to say it also matters.

Included are 3 random women over 30, 2 jgirls and 1 kgirls. If you follow their IG you can see hints of their "advanced age" but they still look solid since they put in the effort. Even though I am 80% targeting HYA, I'd rather have a beautiful woman over 30 than just any 'above average' looking HYA. But beautiful women like Ericka are rare, and even rarer for them to have an unblemished attitude. So I struggle and simply compromise by going after HYA instead. Don't worry, I'll be all right.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=InternDavid;7114593]Anyone had a girl lick their nose before?

It wasn't an accident either as she did it multiple times and with purpose. This girl is usually cute and playful so I didn't mind it but it kind of took me by surprise. Didn't expect that from a kgirl. LOL.[/QUOTE]No, but I had a K girl who sucked her big toe while I fucked her in missionary. She was very flexible. We ended up taking turns sucking her big toe. I tried to shove her big toe into her vagina but she turned it down.

[QUOTE=KGirlSavant;7116434]No, but I had a K girl who sucked her big toe while I fucked her in missionary. She was very flexible. We ended up taking turns sucking her big toe. I tried to shove her big toe into her vagina but she turned it down.[/QUOTE]Was it a MILF or younger kgirl? I got to try her doing that if it's a hya.

[QUOTE=AsianAssEater;7116125]Did my own research and Tifa and stacy have the same upcharges so yeah based on my research Tifa is def og la nicole.[/QUOTE]If I were a betting man, I would bet you are right. But I wonder why Tifa denies it so strongly. I even playfully teased her about it, saying, "I know you were LA Nicole before, it's ok, just admit it. " And Tifa insisted she was not. I've known many other k-girls who willingly admit it and don't really care if their customers know. So my question is: Why does Tifa deny it so strongly and so convincingly? Is there more to the story?

[QUOTE=AsianAssEater;7116125]Did my own research and Tifa and stacy have the same upcharges so yeah based on my research Tifa is def og la nicole.

Also nuri, luna k, yaya, etc. Is also back if you want a MILF with mid tier service but a banging body.[/QUOTE]I can't remember what her rates were before, but she's at 340 hr, 50 MSOG, and 50 BB now. Interesting pricing structure. "Tifa" has the same hourly, but charges 40 MSOG and 40 BB.

[QUOTE=KGirlSavant;7116434]No, but I had a K girl who sucked her big toe while I fucked her in missionary. She was very flexible. We ended up taking turns sucking her big toe. I tried to shove her big toe into her vagina but she turned it down.[/QUOTE]Wow I love flexible, and kinky to suck her toes at same time sounds fun! My most unique toe experience was with Pepsi's partner last year, she loved to suck toes, and actually DVP with 'my toes, LOL. I miss her, LOL.

[QUOTE=Taliesin92;7116544]If I were a betting man, I would bet you are right. But I wonder why Tifa denies it so strongly. I even playfully teased her about it, saying, "I know you were LA Nicole before, it's ok, just admit it. " And Tifa insisted she was not. I've known many other k-girls who willingly admit it and don't really care if their customers know. So my question is: Why does Tifa deny it so strongly and so convincingly? Is there more to the story?[/QUOTE]The reviews for Tifa sounds exactly the same as og la Nicole. I wouldn't be able to recognize her because I only saw her once when she was offering duos with Stacy, big ol tits with butter face and a really good BBBJ but I never went back because she struggled with mag. I mostly saw Stacy only. Well who knows and honestly who cares, but the timing of Stacy showing up and the upcharges being the same has me thinking it's prob og la Nicole.