Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=RobertJdn;6476867]I get that people who visited these places are concerned but I'd point out the technique LE has always used to bust clients. They case the AMP. They've set up cameras (which after the Kraft case are probably not admissible). And finally, every time I've heard of these busts, they do traffic stops when the client leaves the AMP. They do this to positively I'd the customer and possibly to get them to admit something. I haven't heard about any traffic stops so I'm guessing they're just going after the providers this time.[/QUOTE]There may have been cameras and video recorders installed by LEO inside the massage rooms at MM. Often the massage places agree to cooperate with the MBI to get leniency and non-prosecution against themselves. The MBI may be going after customers, some big fish like Robert Kraft. Time will tell who is charged with crimes.

Don't know which shop, but on Sheriff reports.

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Chinese last name 6-8-23.

[QUOTE=RobertJdn;6476867]I get that people who visited these places are concerned but I'd point out the technique LE has always used to bust clients. They case the AMP. They've set up cameras (which after the Kraft case are probably not admissible). And finally, every time I've heard of these busts, they do traffic stops when the client leaves the AMP. They do this to positively I'd the customer and possibly to get them to admit something. I haven't heard about any traffic stops so I'm guessing they're just going after the providers this time.[/QUOTE]So how did the police legally stop somebody just for going to a massage parlor after the leave?? That's not even legal unless they have another reason to pull you over.

Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation.

[URL]https://www.mbi-police.net/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Pappy2;6476882]What does MBI stand for? I have not been in Orlando in years.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pappy2;6476882]What does MBI stand for? I have not been in Orlando in years.[/QUOTE]It's the Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation, they investigate organized crime sort of activities and they handle cases in Orange and Osceola counties. I don't recall them being in the news much, though they've been around for at least 30 years, maybe more.

[QUOTE=Nienhull;6476844]Did you call them back from a burner? Just a suggestion.[/QUOTE]Tried to PM you but your inbox is full.

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;6476500]I'm not 100% sure about Orlando, but I don't think it's legal for the girls to "live" at the spa. I remember watching a show that was about Health Dept officials in Houston doing spot checks on Spas and they would find secret rooms hidden in walls where the girls would sleep and would either heavily fine the owner or shut the business down.

P.S. As for people worried about getting a knock on the door because you were at an AMP a few months ago, relax. If they didn't see money exchanged and hear an agreement for an illegal activity in return, there is nothing they can do other than possibly out you to your wife or girlfriend. Bottom line, never say anything! They want you to incriminate yourself so you do their job for them. You have 5th amendment right, so use it.

P.S. S. Please stop replying to BillyBob, as well as all of his other screen names so he will crawl back under his rock. Read what A2 put under his screen name.[/QUOTE]I agree with you about him going back under his rock. I can tell you with 100% certainty that the girls did not sleep at the spa. KMS they rented a house 2 blocks away. King they had a 4 bedroom 2 story house also 2 blocks away.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6476916]There may have been cameras and video recorders installed by LEO inside the massage rooms at MM. Often the massage places agree to cooperate with the MBI to get leniency and non-prosecution against themselves. The MBI may be going after customers, some big fish like Robert Kraft. Time will tell who is charged with crimes.[/QUOTE]Wasn't the Kraft case going after the Johns a huge failure though? The video evidence was thrown out and barely anyone got convicted.

[QUOTE=PinkChaser;6476926]So how did the police legally stop somebody just for going to a massage parlor after the leave?? That's not even legal unless they have another reason to pull you over.[/QUOTE]Typical cop stuff. They'd say you were speeding, didn't signal a lane change, failed to yield, anything to give them a pretext to pull you over and get your DL.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6476913]Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation. They are composed of experienced vice officers from several county and city jurisdictions. For several months they were surveilling MM from the vacant Vape shop next door and taking videos and photos of the license tag numbers of customers who went in and came out. They have not completed their investigations yet and several people may be indicted.[/QUOTE]This is why I never park at the MP (whatever the activities) and just walk over.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6476916]There may have been cameras and video recorders installed by LEO inside the massage rooms at MM. Often the massage places agree to cooperate with the MBI to get leniency and non-prosecution against themselves. The MBI may be going after customers, some big fish like Robert Kraft. Time will tell who is charged with crimes.[/QUOTE]Illegal to install surveillance cams by cops, they lost in Kraft case & the Orlando busts a few years back. The would be pissed that they waist time and $. These are just shake downs to cool the market off & scare AMPs & mongers.

[QUOTE=TimmyHill;6476525]Received a few calls from 407 today but didn't answer and they left no messages.[/QUOTE]If were cops, believe me, they would leave a message for you to mind fuck you! If contacted, you just went for a massage, nothing more. They have no proof what went down inside.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6476916]There may have been cameras and video recorders installed by LEO inside the massage rooms at MM. Often the massage places agree to cooperate with the MBI to get leniency and non-prosecution against themselves. The MBI may be going after customers, some big fish like Robert Kraft. Time will tell who is charged with crimes.[/QUOTE]A lot of focus on MM, but how does all of this tie into NDS? Any worry of them?

Totally agree with that assessment.

I have seen some first thing in the morning before they got themselves dolled up and you can tell there not as young as you might think.

At the end of the day if you need it to be a fantasy that your hooking up with a hot you asian then go with it. Not for me to judge.

We are the customer for crying out loud!

[QUOTE=KalaFina;6476228]Everytime a girl tells you her age, you have to add 10-15,20 if she had good surgery done on her and that's why I never believe reviews that claim young girls working there or any joint, even rubmaps is filled with bs reviews of girls in their 20's when I know for a fact they are over 40, unless you have seen her I'd or passport I wouldn't claim to know a provider's age.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ThatBroThere;6477275][URL]https://orangefl.mugshots.zone/jiao-ruixue-mugshot-06-08-2023/[/URL]

This looks like kiko to me. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]I think. LOL.

[QUOTE=ThatBroThere;6477275][URL]https://orangefl.mugshots.zone/jiao-ruixue-mugshot-06-08-2023/[/URL]

This looks like kiko to me. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]No that's not her LOL not even close.

[QUOTE=ThatBroThere;6477275][URL]https://orangefl.mugshots.zone/jiao-ruixue-mugshot-06-08-2023/[/URL]

This looks like kiko to me. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]Not to harass, but this photo is so far from the great Kiko. Even if I was a one time visitor (I could have bought a new car for what I have spent in there) this photo is not in same stratosphere as our favorite Masman. Yes my fellow monger, you are wrong. I don't think this one could get hired at MM.

By the time their done this might be huge.

[QUOTE=ThatBroThere;6477275][URL]https://orangefl.mugshots.zone/jiao-ruixue-mugshot-06-08-2023/[/URL]

This looks like kiko to me. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]Not only are you wrong sir. You are very wrong. LOL.

[QUOTE=ThatBroThere;6477275][URL]https://orangefl.mugshots.zone/jiao-ruixue-mugshot-06-08-2023/[/URL]

This looks like kiko to me. Am I wrong?[/QUOTE]I don't think kiko got booked so I doubt you will see her mugshot. I think she's taking a break for now and hopefully will bring something better in the near future.

They usually keep a group some full of members some very small, in small cities you can see WeChat groups made of 15-25 people all the way to up to 400 or even 500 and in some small groups they pass information about where they stay to some, if their business model is dirtier than the average they can pass info to Chinese men and make a few bucks on the side, with pictures and everything, the majority do stay in the spa or rely on other girls to find a place if they are not from town or out of state.

[QUOTE=NeedAheRealBad;6476324]I got one of the girl's WeChat which Keiko is strict about not allowing but this girl showed me pictures and told me about the place where they slept and it was definitely not the spa. They would all carpool and if one of them wasnt working due to illness / period they get the car and had to run errands like buying groceries. This girl is also fairly well off with wealthy parents, she just wanted some plastic surgery that they didn't want to pay for so she took out a loan and this was a way to pay it back.[/QUOTE]

The things they do and tax evasion are all illegal I mean, if you count all they do aside from prostitution is all illegal, we could name 5 or more things but yes it varies from state to state, I've visited Houston but only for a short time, most inspectors are chill but every now and then you find a strict one but inspections are quickly done, I'm sorry I've never set foot in a spa with secret doors not do I think they could exist when the spa has to be inspected the first time it opens even if it's under new management, I've seen spas cover doors but not in a way that can be considered a secret passage, the majority of inspections aren't surprise inspections unless a complaint has been made.

[QUOTE=Nightowl21;6476500]I'm not 100% sure about Orlando, but I don't think it's legal for the girls to "live" at the spa. I remember watching a show that was about Health Dept officials in Houston doing spot checks on Spas and they would find secret rooms hidden in walls where the girls would sleep and would either heavily fine the owner or shut the business down. If the provider live nearby they go home, they all have cars unless they are from out of town, and also if the owner has a place for them tO stay because police sometimes park their cars in a positIon where they can see the front and the back of the store, but it’s not like a seasoned boss won’t know what to do, most Chinese are non confrontational so they avoid trouble, I doubt Chinese know about the 5th they don’t need to and use the I don’t speak English routine, and lastly sorry but I don’t know who billybob is I don’t usually find many topics as interesting as this one because girls hate it when customers talk about arrests online and most reviews are about the big ones which I rarely rarely visit

P.S. As for people worried about getting a knock on the door because you were at an AMP a few months ago, relax. If they didn't see money exchanged and hear an agreement for an illegal activity in return, there is nothing they can do other than possibly out you to your wife or girlfriend. Bottom line, never say anything! They want you to incriminate yourself so you do their job for them. You have 5th amendment right, so use it.

P.S. S. Please stop replying to BillyBob, as well as all of his other screen names so he will crawl back under his rock. Read what A2 put under his screen name.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MarkGew;6477403]By the time their done this might be huge.[/QUOTE]This isn't good, but could have been a whole lot worse. They are making ONE arrest a day. As busy as these places are, they could have brought multiple UCs at the same time as a group of friends or come in back to back to back and really made a splash busting most of the staff. It almost doesn't even make since how low scale they are doing this, but if I had to speculate, this seems more like a warning shot or sending a message. If MBI had hidden cameras in the AMPs, Very Doubtful, they wouldn't be arresting girls now that they have supposedly cooperated. This may be them arresting a girl to get her to roll on ownership, because that's where the big money is. Now you're talking money laundering, tax evasion, deriving support from prostitution, RICO and even more charges. As for us lowly peons, I don't think they are too worried about us. Also look at the election cycle. That is usually a big motivator when stupid shit like this happens. When the BS with the loitering charges on OBT started, I figured it was only a matter of time until this was next.

P.S. This happened in Tampa a while back, actually on a much bigger scale, a popular girl at an AMP there got some serious charges, bond in the 100 k's and did a loooong stretch in the county jail. The paranoia worked for a bit, but now it's business as usual once again. Bottom line, stay safe, monitor your surroundings when visiting these places, and once again, don't say a damn thing if you are questioned!

Glad I postponed my trip next week. Hopefully things will be back to normal by the fall.

I'm on a lawyer. But Florida is a two-party consent state. If they have cameras in those rooms they have to tell you and ask your permission to record you unless it's some court order or something like that. But for that to happen the business would just shut down rather than go through that. But they simply can't hide cameras in there. Or ask them to place them in the rooms. It doesn't work like that.

[QUOTE=HumbleHal;6476916]There may have been cameras and video recorders installed by LEO inside the massage rooms at MM. Often the massage places agree to cooperate with the MBI to get leniency and non-prosecution against themselves. The MBI may be going after customers, some big fish like Robert Kraft. Time will tell who is charged with crimes.[/QUOTE]

What are the chances that law enforcement actually care about L1 areas like Longwood, Altamonte, or places 20 miles north of Orlando? I have the feeling they don't, but paranoia always gets the better of people.

[QUOTE=RICheeseHead;6477049]This is why I never park at the MP (whatever the activities) and just walk over.[/QUOTE]If the place is being surveilled the walking routine won't save you if the cops want to pull you over.

The biggest thing to remember is to never talk to them other than "5th amendment" and "lawyer. ".

Also, anyone worrying about investigators coming to your door. Don't even sweat it. If you were going down you would already have been arrested. The only people who would have any issue are the unlucky customers inside the building during the raid, the spa employees, and any idiot who got pulled over and then started talking. Everyone else is fine.

[QUOTE=OrlandoWeb;6477674]I'm on a lawyer. But Florida is a two-party consent state. If they have cameras in those rooms they have to tell you and ask your permission to record you unless it's some court order or something like that. But for that to happen the business would just shut down rather than go through that. But they simply can't hide cameras in there. Or ask them to place them in the rooms. It doesn't work like that.[/QUOTE]2 party consent is just for audio.

[QUOTE=ThomasBandy23;6477820]If the place is being surveilled the walking routine won't save you if the cops want to pull you over.

The biggest thing to remember is to never talk to them other than "5th amendment" and "lawyer. ".

Also, anyone worrying about investigators coming to your door. Don't even sweat it. If you were going down you would already have been arrested. The only people who would have any issue are the unlucky customers inside the building during the raid, the spa employees, and any idiot who got pulled over and then started talking. Everyone else is fine.[/QUOTE]I agree with your thrust, but it won't be easy to connect me to the car, unless they follow me.

I know it's illegal to have video recordings in the room due to privacy but mm had a camera in the first room to the right. In the corner of the ceiling, I noticed there was a crack so I flashed it with my phone light and I can see the camera lens. Not one of those flood lights for "emergency" as they claimed when they were mc. I think they use that room for new customers so that they can watch them in the room, but I could be wrong. I confronted junjun about it one day and she played it off like she didn't understand. Stopped going there since. Sorry about the late post but I thought someone would've noticed it a long time ago.

I had never been to Semoran Spa before but decided to give it a try. The masseuse said her name was Mimi. Cute face, a little chubby, all natural. Far from the best girl I've seen, but I was in one of those moods and figured good enough.

I paid the standard rate for 1 hour and asked for a shower, which I received, then back to the room. Overall the service was rushed and unenthusiastic. Not a total loss, as it got the job done, but I would not recommend or repeat. I left feeling more annoyed than relaxed.

That's all I'm willing to say on the public forum given recent events. PMs are open to seniors if any more details are requested.

[QUOTE=KramerCostanza;6477392]Not to harass, but this photo is so far from the great Kiko. Even if I was a one time visitor (I could have bought a new car for what I have spent in there) this photo is not in same stratosphere as our favorite Masman. Yes my fellow monger, you are wrong. I don't think this one could get hired at MM.[/QUOTE]I mean, I've maybe been there enough for a down payment on a nice bmw, I swear that picture looks like her when she's at the end of the day. Maybe it's been too long and my old age is failing me.

[QUOTE=KalaFina;6477484]The things they do and tax evasion are all illegal I mean, if you count all they do aside from prostitution is all illegal, we could name 5 or more things but yes it varies from state to state, I've visited Houston but only for a short time, most inspectors are chill but every now and then you find a strict one but inspections are quickly done, I'm sorry I've never set foot in a spa with secret doors not do I think they could exist when the spa has to be inspected the first time it opens even if it's under new management, I've seen spas cover doors but not in a way that can be considered a secret passage, the majority of inspections aren't surprise inspections unless a complaint has been made.[/QUOTE]You've never stepped foot in a spa with a "secret" door that could lead to a hidden room? They can't exist? And the Health Dept doesn't do surprise inspections?

Not sure why you would call me out after saying I actually WATCHED it happen on TV, but ok, a simple Google search confirmed what I remembered (except the particular memory I had were from spas in San Francisco, not Houston, although they also had a program episode targeting Houston AMPs as well). MSNBC Undercover ran programs from 2007 to 2015 exposing human trafficking and illegal acts in massage parlors and other illicit sexually related activity from all over the US and other parts of the world. The episode I referenced features the Health Inspector from SF Ed Walsh, a doctor, policemen, fire dept inspector and others doing surprise inspections and raids, arresting girls and johns, on 4 unsuspecting AMPs, some they had cited in the past. I have included screenshots of the transcript in the episode where they uncovered the hidden rooms and secret passages (in one instance, they discovered a hidden entrance where several girls were actually hiding and it was like clowns exiting a VW at the circus, LOL), as well as screenshots of other episodes in the series if anyone is curious and wants to watch them, including some they did that hit closer to home for us featuring Orlando and several in Polk County.

P.S. Not sure what was funnier on the program, the guys fleeing like cockroaches when they busted in the rooms, or the guy that "pushes by" all of the officials because he "had a 7:30 pm appt"!

Sorry so long, but hope it's of some interest. Stay safe!

[QUOTE=ThatBroThere;6477933]I mean, I've maybe been there enough for a down payment on a nice bmw, I swear that picture looks like her when she's at the end of the day. Maybe it's been too long and my old age is failing me.[/QUOTE]The last time I saw Kiko in April 2022 her head was thinner than that picture, not as round. I thought she was definitely more attractive than that woman in the picture. But maybe she gained a lot of weight since then.

It also says her age is 30. Think Kiko had to be older than that.

Hi, I was thinking of stopping by MM next week & I went onto STG to check out their ad to see who was working. But I don't see it post anymore. Are they still open? And are they posting an ad somewhere else? Thank You for any help.

Anyone know if Curry Ford is safe? Still open?

Or even worth a visit right now?

[QUOTE=Harvey869;6478123]Hi, I was thinking of stopping by MM next week & I went onto STG to check out their ad to see who was working. But I don't see it post anymore. Are they still open? And are they posting an ad somewhere else? Thank You for any help.[/QUOTE]Closed. Couple of AMPs closed in the last week.

HL54.

[QUOTE=RubMapper;6478120]The last time I saw Kiko in April 2022 her head was thinner than that picture, not as round. I thought she was definitely more attractive than that woman in the picture. But maybe she gained a lot of weight since then.

It also says her age is 30. Think Kiko had to be older than that.[/QUOTE]Totally agree on both points.

Bruce.

[QUOTE=HotLuck54;6478195]Closed. Couple of AMPs closed in the last week.

HL54.[/QUOTE]Thank You.

Been out of the loop for a while. Went to MM this AM and closed obviously. Caught up here on what has been happening. So the big question, is what is left?