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You know, I've been in this a few years and it never dawned on me that I probably don't know the what GFE actually entails. I know the acronym but that's about it.
[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;5729802]If you see her, you'll likely get the "eye candy" you seek.
An upcharge of 20 or 40 will not get you a true GFE woman. She may add kissing but that alone is not what GFE is all about.
BMD.[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the report. Been trying to get a hold of her for some time but can't seem to get a text back.
[QUOTE=BobJohnson2;5729394][URL]https://hartford.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sadie/970139422230[/URL]
Saw Sadie last night.
Texting contact was somewhat drawn out but not too bad. Hotel is convenient to the highway. Room is pretty messy but no signs of other occupants or handerer. Price was reasonable and I had a nice visit with her. Will most likely visit again. Hopefully the text set-up is more direct now that she knows me.
P.S.: Thank you to the fine gentleman on here who referred her to me![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueFox141;5728590]Excellent points! You've got no idea who any of these girls are tied to. Just because you haven't heard about a pimp or handler, doesn't mean they don't have one. And drugs is almost always going to be part of the picture. Pimps / handlers can be anywhere from harmless, to dangerous. A girl that doesn't have one today, could very well have one tomorrow. The important thing is whether or not they've shown to be a problem. Your comfort level is important, so you need to make decisions that you feel safe with.
Be careful out there.
Blue.[/QUOTE]There is a guy in the Fairfield County part of state who runs a few girls they sometimes change some are there forever his format is always the same on the listing I personally have seen several of hos girls never had an issue I have only seen him once and it was leaving the room with one of the other girls and heading g to the car to wait until the deed was done. One of the girls I saw a couple of times had given her personal number once saying she was going to get away from him and do it on her own which she did for about a week then was right back with him again not sure if drugs are the draw or what the deal is but with him I have never had any issues.
[QUOTE=Myghche;5729816]You know, I've been in this a few years and it never dawned on me that I probably don't know the what GFE actually entails. I know the acronym but that's about it.[/QUOTE]
The hobbyist's definition was devised and posted prior to 2000 from the defunct old Big Doggie which competed with Ter. Back then, finding and getting GFE was a slam dunk.
I posted a copy of the author's quote (St. Bart) here back in 2015. It still applies today as it's logical and makes sense in this world of increasing spammers, scammers, and fakers.
Quoted below:
[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;2452839]10 to 15 years ago, a hobbyist devised the definition. It made sense to me.
"When I first started hobbying 4 years ago, I was dismayed how the term "GFE" was bandied about. Some ladies that I dated based on reviews were far, far, from GFE. The reviewer, I decided afterwards, was simply using the term to say he had a nice time, which is fine.
BUT, and always recognizing YMMV, I never had a GF that didn't DFK, or allow DATY, or give BBBJ. When these 3 acts come with enthusiastic FS, I define the experience as 100% GFE on the Saint Bart Scale. For every item missing, 10% is deducted. I usually don't like to be specific in a review about the acts I enjoyed. It can unnecessairily put a lady "on the spot" with the next hobbyist. "you did ABC for him, so why not me?" That's not fair to her.
So, the SBS has just enough ambiguity to protect her, yet describe my experience. For example, I recently posted a review of Lisa from Eye Candy. She was 70% on the SBS. As I think all know, my ATF Badgirl is 100% on the SBS. Top's Penelope, with me, was 80%GFE, which reflected my YMMV as I've subsequently read others found her to be 90%GFE. IMO, this is usually all the detail required for the reader to get a good idea of the service level, subject to YMMV.
Now, sometimes extras are available that go beyond 100%GFE, and might not be allowed by your civilian GF. The two most common examples are Greek and BBBJTC. Actual CIM. To me whether she spits or swallows, it doesn't matter. These are handled in a review with a " or "Plus" for each act. Missy, I've written and many have enjoyed, is famous for her Plus ending. So Missy's 100%GFE+ or 100%GFE Plus. The Plus Missy earns is undefined, but all get the picture. Aussie Amber takes it one Plus further, to what I think of as a PSE. She's 100%GFE++ or 100%GFE Plus, Plus. Again, I think one gets the picture, and doesn't need the actual details. I've had rare dates that actually earned as many as 4 Plusses. More were awarded for spending the night "on the house", and for allowing pictures (hear that Nurse? I suppose they could also be awarded for actions that don't interest me. Be&the, or golden showers, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CTMonger333;5729838]There is a guy in the Fairfield County part of state who runs a few girls they sometimes change some are there forever his format is always the same on the listing I personally have seen several of hos girls never had an issue I have only seen him once and it was leaving the room with one of the other girls and heading g to the car to wait until the deed was done. One of the girls I saw a couple of times had given her personal number once saying she was going to get away from him and do it on her own which she did for about a week then was right back with him again not sure if drugs are the draw or what the deal is but with him I have never had any issues.[/QUOTE]See? Generalizations don't work. I can understand that for many, a pimp means an automatic no. But, not all of them are the same.
Thank you so much for the breakdown. With that definition I suppose an 80% on the SBS is sufficient for my tastes. I'll let you guys guess which one LOL. I'm really wanting to check Taylor out. Will definitely report if I end up pulling the trigger.
[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;5729876]The hobbyist's definition was devised and posted prior to 2000 from the defunct old Big Doggie which competed with Ter. Back then, finding and getting GFE was a slam dunk.
I posted a copy of the author's quote (St. Bart) here back in 2015. It still applies today as it's logical and makes sense in this world of increasing spammers, scammers, and fakers.
Quoted below:[/QUOTE]
It bothers me to no end when I see an ad and the woman has checked the box in the menu for GFE, but not DFK. I agree with BMD. GFE, girlfriend experience means just that. A girlfriend experience must include what your girlfriend would provide, kissing with tongue (DFK), DATY, and an uncovered BJ. I would also include mutual caressing and fondling. For some reason, some women think that GFE means intercourse only or includes only a covered BJ. Unfortunately, we'll never get all of these women to understand the term, so I don't bother trying. Instead I do my research and private message mongers who have posted and ask for exact details about a woman's menu.
I also understand that some women don't want to list DFK in their menu. They might have a client show up with bad breath and won't want to DFK. So it does go both ways. If I see a woman that doesn't DFK, I probably won't ever see her again. If she asks why I've not repeated, which none ever have done, I would be honest and tell her why.
[QUOTE=Myghche;5729959]Thank you so much for the breakdown. With that definition I suppose an 80% on the SBS is sufficient for my tastes. I'll let you guys guess which one LOL. I'm really wanting to check Taylor out. Will definitely report if I end up pulling the trigger.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OffTheGrid;5729994]It bothers me to no end when I see an ad and the woman has checked the box in the menu for GFE, but not DFK. I agree with BMD. GFE, girlfriend experience means just that. A girlfriend experience must include what your girlfriend would provide, kissing with tongue (DFK), DATY, and an uncovered BJ. I would also include mutual caressing and fondling. For some reason, some women think that GFE means intercourse only or includes only a covered BJ. Unfortunately, we'll never get all of these women to understand the term, so I don't bother trying. Instead I do my research and private message mongers who have posted and ask for exact details about a woman's menu.
I also understand that some women don't want to list DFK in their menu. They might have a client show up with bad breath and won't want to DFK. So it does go both ways. If I see a woman that doesn't DFK, I probably won't ever see her again. If she asks why I've not repeated, which none ever have done, I would be honest and tell her why.[/QUOTE]Back when this standard was created, it's audience was geared for higher end girls. At that time 300 and up. It's unlikely most girls know or care at the street or STG level. If you get it, great, but expectations there should generally be lower due to their volume and health reasons.
Also, I've encountered some women who mistakenly were told that GFE meant going bareback. While true for a real girlfriend, it was never included as a GFE activity in a commercial environment. If it did happen, it would be considered a + (plus) item. Pluses are in addition to the standard definition. So, if Jane was a GFE type and privately granted GFE with bb and Greek, that would be considered GFE++ without the need to publicly state what those pluses were. It’s a way to publish a girl’s rating and maintain her discretion for ymmv.
BMD.
[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;5730041]Back when this standard was created, it's audience was geared for higher end girls. At that time 300 and up. It's unlikely most girls know or care at the street or STG level. If you get it, great, but expectations there should generally be lower due to their volume and health reasons.
Also, I've encountered some women who mistakenly were told that GFE meant going bareback. While true for a real girlfriend, it was never included as a GFE activity in a commercial environment. If it did happen, it would be considered a + (plus) item. Pluses are in addition to the standard definition. So, if Jane was a GFE type and privately granted GFE with bb and Greek, that would be considered GFE++ without the need to publicly state what those pluses were. Its a way to publish a girls rating and maintain her discretion for ymmv.
[/QUOTE]Great stuff BMD, but how do you get the providers to understand it?
Blue.
Finally had a pleasure of meeting the one & only Mulan.
What a gem.
Gave me a warm hug upon my arrival. She asked to wash hands which I did. Safety 1st. I get it. Started with a massage on my back and on the flip side the main course was ready and waiting. She was all over my python, he gave me the world class BBBJ. I tried my best to slow her down so half way thru, I requested for 69, we got into a position and while I was galloping her she unloaded me. Cleaned up after. Chatted a little got few more hugs and I was on my way. Great experience and I would definitely repeat. Hopefully next week.
Stay safe- BD.
[QUOTE=BlueFox141;5730341]Great stuff BMD, but how do you get the providers to understand it?
Blue.[/QUOTE]The STG girls are immune to reality and logic.
The terminology was at the higher end and the girls were traveling nationwide. The audience and market were huge with TER, Big Doggie, Eros, agencies, etc. Federal legislation put a wet blanket on everything. The timeframe was about 1998 to 2012 or so. Everyone on both sides knew the rules and penalties. Scammers and spammers in that market were extremely rare and were quickly locked out.
Since then, it's been a slow and steady decline, down the drain into the gutter.
[QUOTE=BigMacDaddy;5730634]The STG girls are immune to reality and logic.
The terminology was at the higher end and the girls were traveling nationwide. The audience and market were huge with TER, Big Doggie, Eros, agencies, etc. Federal legislation put a wet blanket on everything. The timeframe was about 1998 to 2012 or so. Everyone on both sides knew the rules and penalties. Scammers and spammers in that market were extremely rare and were quickly locked out.
Since then, it's been a slow and steady decline, down the drain into the gutter.[/QUOTE]I hear ya! And if they are in Waterbury, it's uphill to the gutter.
Went to visit Steph again for the first time since her return. She is staying in southington so had to make the trip since it's only 10 minutes from my place. Wow forgot how good she felt. Decided on the half hour BBFS for 200. She let me do the cream pie and we laid there for the last 10 minutes cuddling and catching up. I never get sick of that BBBJ. Isabelle wasn't around and she said she will be working more days than Isabelle but didn't specify when Isabelle would be around again. The only thing I didn't like about Isabelle was the cigarette smoking. Steph doesn't smoke which is nice and I like a girl who doesn't wreak of smoke. This was my 5th time I have visited Steph and will continue. I do want to try the 2 girl when they offer it. That is def next on my to do list!
There is a girl staying at a house in new Britain dark hair who posts a lot I believe stays in a residence and says she offers BBFS. Anyone try her out yet?
[QUOTE=KinkyJack1972;5730806]There is a girl staying at a house in new Britain dark hair who posts a lot I believe stays in a residence and says she offers BBFS. Anyone try her out yet?[/QUOTE]That's not exactly a lot of information! Do you have a link?
Blue.