"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4334106]I know it's a like a broken record but never, ever believe what a girl says she "usually gets" or what she does to get that allowance. They will always lie.[/QUOTE]Actually, I find 3 categories of potential SBs. First are the ones that lie and tell you they get enormous sums on a monthly or individual meeting basis. I guess its like buying a car, no harm in trying but of course, it pisses us guys off; Second, the girls that want to meet platonically for a few meetings to "get to know you" before going to bed, they are immediately ditched by me. Finally, the girls that I say "$150/ meet and they say OK for BBFS / CIP, etc. I have a couple of 22 year olds on the hook now, no public meeting, just come over and enjoy. Latina's on top of that. Sorry guys I'm not in VA but this board it terrific.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;4333564]So I'm communicating with a lady on SA, and for allowance she says 500. I tell her that's too steep and counter with 250 ppm. She says she averages 1 k-2 k ppm, but never less than 500. Question, do any of you guys actually pay that much? No judging, just curious.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9ec1dae5-53d3-d34f-c94d-6aed6633f4da[/URL][/QUOTE]That's not unreasonable as long as she's really hot and I've seen her in person at a meet and greet. I've always been able to get a 500 girl to go down to 400 or 450. Just beware, if you bargain a girl down on the price, she's not going to be as motivated to make you happy. You get what you pay for on SA. Just like a steak, I'll pay extra for quality.

[QUOTE=DCSeeker;4335538]That's not unreasonable as long as she's really hot and I've seen her in person at a meet and greet. I've always been able to get a 500 girl to go down to 400 or 450. Just beware, if you bargain a girl down on the price, she's not going to be as motivated to make you happy. You get what you pay for on SA. Just like a steak, I'll pay extra for quality.[/QUOTE]My experience has been exactly the opposite: the higher the amount she wants, the less fun the main event will be. I only go for college-type girls, not pros or high volume.

[QUOTE=DCSeeker;4335538]That's not unreasonable as long as she's really hot and I've seen her in person at a meet and greet. I've always been able to get a 500 girl to go down to 400 or 450. Just beware, if you bargain a girl down on the price, she's not going to be as motivated to make you happy. You get what you pay for on SA. Just like a steak, I'll pay extra for quality.[/QUOTE]If you got the funds to cover that much on a regular basis then I applaud you, but I have a set limit that I will not go past, no matter how hot they are. Even if I could afford a Rolex I wouldn't get one because I believe they're over priced and there are plenty of watches that get the job done just as well.

I am facing a new authentication protocol on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I use the Epic browser b / c of its built-in VPN, it seems SA thinks it is some sort of subterfuge, so it periodically makes me go through a Captcah. PITA. Anyone else experiencing? Have a better way to do this?

[QUOTE=DCSeeker;4335538]That's not unreasonable as long as she's really hot and I've seen her in person at a meet and greet. I've always been able to get a 500 girl to go down to 400 or 450. Just beware, if you bargain a girl down on the price, she's not going to be as motivated to make you happy. You get what you pay for on SA. Just like a steak, I'll pay extra for quality.[/QUOTE]She said the same thing to me she wants $600 per meet and in that age range she is wayyyy over priced I have seen below 20's really hot college girls for not more than 300 and they are no holes barred and full of passion. So not sure if that logic of higher the pay better the attention doesn't hold in my humble opinion, at least in my case any way.

There have been a few who did say the same price range and they are in their 30's and I have a couple of planned meets in near future for far less way better looking than these.

[QUOTE=Almighty;3940573]Do you have to give your personal information when you sign up / activate the card?[/QUOTE]Amex requires you to provide a SSN when you activate a bluebird card. I wouldn't do that with any card linked to Seeking.

Just get a Vanilla Visa card from Wal Mart. Follow the activation directions I've posted previously. It works 100% of the time if you do so.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;4337076]I am facing a new authentication protocol on [URL]seeking.com[/URL]. I use the Epic browser b / c of its built-in VPN, it seems SA thinks it is some sort of subterfuge, so it periodically makes me go through a Captcah. PITA. Anyone else experiencing? Have a better way to do this?[/QUOTE]I just logged into SA using Epic and everything was fine. I use the Netherlands location on VPN, FWIW.

I've actually found an inverse relationship to price and experience. Women that are in it for more than money have been a much better experiences than any of the women asking big dollars. I do agree that a woman focused on $s will be less motivated by a lower allowance, but I avoid those women like the plague!!

[QUOTE=S2568;4338158]She said the same thing to me she wants $600 per meet and in that age range she is wayyyy over priced I have seen below 20's really hot college girls for not more than 300 and they are no holes barred and full of passion. So not sure if that logic of higher the pay better the attention doesn't hold in my humble opinion, at least in my case any way.

There have been a few who did say the same price range and they are in their 30's and I have a couple of planned meets in near future for far less way better looking than these.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.insideedition.com/was-missing-college-student-working-sugar-baby-54016[/URL]

My experience has been the same.

It's important to note that we are talking about two different women at different price points and motivations. The high priced woman will never be happy with a lower amount and will often be lackluster. A woman interested in more than just dollars can be incredibly happy with a lower allowance if the rest of the experience exceeds their expectations.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4335979]My experience has been exactly the opposite: the higher the amount she wants, the less fun the main event will be. I only go for college-type girls, not pros or high volume.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;4338570]My experience has been the same.

It's important to note that we are talking about two different women at different price points and motivations. The high priced woman will never be happy with a lower amount and will often be lackluster. A woman interested in more than just dollars can be incredibly happy with a lower allowance if the rest of the experience exceeds their expectations.[/QUOTE]
It's basic math. For 600-800-1 k a girl will literally go home with a guy she finds completely repulsive (and will laugh at with her friends later). You think she stops being repulsed because you filled her purse with green bills? No, she doesn't suddenly have a change of heart. She still finds you disgusting and holds her nose and tries to get it over as quickly as possible. Not a recipe for a great time if you're that schmuck. If she actually likes you she doesn't care that much about how much she gets. Just give enough to say "thank you for a great evening" and you're set.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;4335979]My experience has been exactly the opposite: the higher the amount she wants, the less fun the main event will be. I only go for college-type girls, not pros or high volume.[/QUOTE]I'm generally with EvilTmp on this one, but with one twist. My BEST experiences have been with girls who did not set a price before banging me. Still surprising to me how many girls on SA will do this. And if you want to weed out pro's, I can't think of a better way than to limit your hook ups to girls who will do it without a price discussion / negotiation.

[QUOTE=FigLeaf;4338567][URL]https://www.insideedition.com/was-missing-college-student-working-sugar-baby-54016[/URL][/QUOTE]Sounds like she was taking a lot of chances in life.

And bragging about them on social media.

A SB went missing in DC a few years ago. I can't find the story now, but I do recall that the police questioned the SDs she interacted with on SA.

This is a reminder to never leave loose ends with a SB. If they ghost you, send a final message wishing them luck. Never end it in a fight or with threats.

[QUOTE=Truncated;4338946]Sounds like she was taking a lot of chances in life.

And bragging about them on social media.

A SB went missing in DC a few years ago. I can't find the story now, but I do recall that the police questioned the SDs she interacted with on SA.

This is a reminder to never leave loose ends with a SB. If they ghost you, send a final message wishing them luck. Never end it in a fight or with threats.[/QUOTE]This story got a lot of attention in southern California as she is from here. On the radio yesterday it was mentioned she had profiles on Tinder and SeekingArrangement. They actually got ahold of a spokeswoman for seeking who was interviewed, and she performed great. Said they are a dating / social media app / site like many others, they offer services like background checks to their customers and recommend people take advantage of them, etc. In the news stories today, it hasn't been mentioned she was a SB, and just from the look of the suspect, it seems very unlikely she would have met him on seeking. Still, tragic, and hopefully there won't be blowback onto seeking merely b / c she had a profile there.