Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=Roland2418;6515860]Some of these guys might be remembering her as she used to be years ago. There was a time before her surgery and weight gain when she was the hottest piece in town. Plus she had a sweet personality unlike her other GPS crew. She really sold the fantasy. Now it's kind of sad. She sees that her crew has retired and she's still stuck in the club.[/QUOTE]Will we truly celebrate the day the last member of the Crew hangs it up like her former crew mates?

The ultimate fantasy VIP would have had all three GPS members in the back for a VIP yo! Suki and Alyssa doubles were good and both were always willing to smash but it was too expensive with their GPS prices. CBJ from both were friendlier on the wallet fo sho!

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6516162]Especially at Synn where few guys sit and tip at the tip rail, or just do it for one girl they like, I've not had trouble getting a girl to come over. I just tip them during stage. Depending how a girl does and how much I appreciate her, I throw $5-$15. I'm not expecting anything because I also want to see if she wants to come over. I've dodged a bullet if she doesn't.

It's also obvious from my body language when I want her to come over, and I usually don't even ask. I've gotten much better matches this way because a girl who decides to stop by usually has a great attitude. Whereas if I ask a girl to stop by after her stage, half the time she's not interested or otherwise has the wrong vibe. If I'm dead set on a girl I'll just go up to her and I've had good experiences with this, but it's a gamble. Some girls just aren't ready to give good service that day, or to you. So I prefer the girl to make the approach, which makes it a lot easier in other ways to feel her out and make sure she's ready to give 100%.[/QUOTE]Another reason I'm starting to prefer this approach is leverage. By going up to a girl, she knows you're more interested in a dance than her giving you a dance so your bargaining power is diminished. If she goes up to you and tries to solicit you for a dance, YOU have the leverage.

Of course all these girls go down a few points in the broad daylight. But you don't have to worry about that in the club. You must have a real tough grading curve if Roxy goes all the way down to a 5 to you LOL.

[QUOTE=Pusclicious;6515822]Have you seen these girls during the day outside the club. I'll tell you more than 90% of the hot ones you see that are eye candies are just a 5 outside of it. I've seen roxy during the day and she's not as hot as you think.[/QUOTE]

The new slim petite queen at Synn seems to be Fendi. She used to work at the North Hills dump location. She was doing VIP after VIP, couldn't get her attention. I am guessing by her looks she is not for guys trying to stay on a budget.

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6516207]Any recommendations on a slim dancer, please comment , you people do help alot, thank you[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6516207]Went to Synn idust. Day shift today, was hoping to hit up NYOMI, but, no contact, she was in her own world, Took a rare VIP with Shirley, not my type. But glad I did. Had VIP $ on me, which is rare, so I used it.[/QUOTE]Serene aka Nadia in my opinion is fire.

[QUOTE=Roland2418;6516413]Of course all these girls go down a few points in the broad daylight. But you don't have to worry about that in the club. You must have a real tough grading curve if Roxy goes all the way down to a 5 to you LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, she's 5 maybe a 6 at best. You will not pay her asking price once you see her during the day.

I don't think the dancers go down more than a single point if any outside the club, as long as they have decent clothes and a bit of makeup.

I've had some show up outside without makeup and for some that's a half or one or two points, but some 3/4/5 (usually the ones who have it caked on in the club).

My data set: I've seen 14 dancers outside from Synn COI.

[QUOTE=Pusclicious;6516426]Yeah, she's 5 maybe a 6 at best. You will not pay her asking price once you see her during the day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SoGood456;6516508]I don't think the dancers go down more than a single point if any outside the club, as long as they have decent clothes and a bit of makeup.

I've had some show up outside without makeup and for some that's a half or one or two points, but some 3/4/5 (usually the ones who have it caked on in the club).

My data set: I've seen 14 dancers outside from Synn COI.[/QUOTE]That's okay different strokes for different folks.

Her photos don't look slim petite. Curious if she has had butt implants as well.

[QUOTE=Roland2418;6516418]The new slim petite queen at Synn seems to be Fendi. She used to work at the North Hills dump location. She was doing VIP after VIP, couldn't get her attention. I am guessing by her looks she is not for guys trying to stay on a budget.[/QUOTE]

One Dancer at Synn told me some customers are trying to recruit dancers to work at a Massage Parlor, LOL. To be honest it's 140 cheaper to go to a massage spot. A-1 Detox in LA Puente has a couple dancers working so I was told, And Zun, Zun in LA Puente, local massage establishments, Latina based, maybe I should go there think of the money to be saved, LOL.

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6516722]One Dancer at Synn told me some customers are trying to recruit dancers to work at a Massage Parlor, LOL. To be honest it's 140 cheaper to go to a massage spot. A-1 Detox in LA Puente has a couple dancers working so I was told, And Zun, Zun in LA Puente, local massage establishments, Latina based, maybe I should go there think of the money to be saved, LOL.[/QUOTE]I have encountered a couple of dancers that worked at Ivy in Baldwin Park throughout the years. Cinnamon who I believe was at Bliss was one a few months ago.

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6516722]One Dancer at Synn told me some customers are trying to recruit dancers to work at a Massage Parlor, LOL. To be honest it's 140 cheaper to go to a massage spot. A-1 Detox in LA Puente has a couple dancers working so I was told, And Zun, Zun in LA Puente, local massage establishments, Latina based, maybe I should go there think of the money to be saved, LOL.[/QUOTE]Hey brother.

A-1 Detox in La Puente?

Did a Google search and only came up with a place in L. A. On Compton.

Tried another site, R. M. And it doesn't list it at all.

Do you have an address? Or maybe some cross streets?

Thanks!

Are you looking at Fendi at Synn and not some other club? I've seen her in person. She on the smaller skinny side. She has fake tits but no ass implants.

[QUOTE=RickJamesB;6516616]Her photos don't look slim petite. Curious if she has had butt implants as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=StrawHat888;6516251]Will we truly celebrate the day the last member of the Crew hangs it up like her former crew mates?….[/QUOTE]On the plus side, it will open a roster spot that might be filled by a non-GPSer. But it's Synn, so she'd likely be replaced by a thick delusional youngster who doesn't look as good on stage and doesn't have the customer service skills. Also, her retirement will leave the numbskull overpayors looking for new targets to corrupt. So I guess no, no celebration necessary LOL.

[QUOTE=SoGood456;6516508]I don't think the dancers go down more than a single point if any outside the club, as long as they have decent clothes and a bit of makeup.

I've had some show up outside without makeup and for some that's a half or one or two points, but some 3/4/5 (usually the ones who have it caked on in the club).

My data set: I've seen 14 dancers outside from Synn COI.[/QUOTE]My experience has been they look plainer & heavier in the light of day, but most still look better than the average civilian woman (at least in most of L. A. County). There's just an allure added by the low lights & dark seedy environment of a strip club.

But cmon man: 14 OTCs and no hints of names or prices in your past posts? Help your brothers out, at least with those girls no longer in your rotation, and with pricing. We need "market research" like you can provide haha!

If there's one monger that's especially frugal, it's me. I know many of you are fans of Synn, but those girls, despite being cute, are just too money money-hungry. I get it; it's their job, but it doesn't mix well with my budget. Paradise continues to be reliable, and now I may have a new approach. I noticed that some girls are much more willing to please with minimal to no tip if it's early, dead, and they're bored. Recently, I went during their free admission, and I was the only dude in the room, and there were only a few girls working. Played hard to get with Nikki, who promised some good times. I told her all I had was $. 20 for the VIP, and she insisted it was cool. After waiting to see if any others would show, I decided to take her up on the offer. All I can say was that it was intense, passionate, and did not disappoint. Got her number for future plans. She's got some nice DDs, a great ass, and loves to kiss apparently. Would definitely repeat. I'll definitely come in when it's slower from here on out. It didn't work at Synn, but it seems to be promising at paradise. Just like the good ol' days (see reports from like 10 years ago).

[QUOTE=IntoNOut;6517538]If there's one monger that's especially frugal, it's me. I know many of you are fans of Synn, but those girls, despite being cute, are just too money money-hungry. I get it; it's their job, but it doesn't mix well with my budget. Paradise continues to be reliable, and now I may have a new approach. I noticed that some girls are much more willing to please with minimal to no tip if it's early, dead, and they're bored. Recently, I went during their free admission, and I was the only dude in the room, and there were only a few girls working. Played hard to get with Nikki, who promised some good times. I told her all I had was $. 20 for the VIP, and she insisted it was cool. After waiting to see if any others would show, I decided to take her up on the offer. All I can say was that it was intense, passionate, and did not disappoint. Got her number for future plans. She's got some nice DDs, a great ass, and loves to kiss apparently. Would definitely repeat. I'll definitely come in when it's slower from here on out. It didn't work at Synn, but it seems to be promising at paradise. Just like the good ol' days (see reports from like 10 years ago).[/QUOTE]Nikki told me that she was trying to build up her clientele and I've had a ton of fun with her for less than a Benji several times. I haven't asked for her digits yet but will definitely ask next time. I agree that Paradise is looking like years ago again. Check back if you work something out otc with her and I'll do the same. If you feel like sharing her number feel free to PM me. Thanks and happy hunting.

Nice! I did 2 or 3 VIP visits with Shirley late last year. I didn't get GFE (no kissing, no BB appetizers). I am surprised she didn't put a new wrapper on after it broke. With me almost all dancers have done so, even if it just started slipping a bit. Was she drunk or high? I guess I would pass on DATY with her. I've never gone bare with a Synn COI or any COI dancer for that matter, but have with a few other dancers and a few adult entertainers.

For a slim dancer, I would highly recommend Lorraine, half Asian, half Black, probably about the same price point as Shirley.

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6516207]Went to Synn idust. Day shift today, was hoping to hit up NYOMI, but, no contact, she was in her own world, Took a rare VIP with Shirley, not my type. But glad I did. Had VIP $ on me, which is rare, so I used it. 20 Shirley (I was surprised) 1. 20 for the VIP dance, not my type, but BRO SHE WAS AMAZING. You want a girlfriend experience hit her up, a good slam if you ask me) NYOMI, I guess next time I'll try again, I'm into slim / petite women, Shirley was average Latina dark body structure, sorta thick _ went deep and Wet, the cover broke, so and fell on the floor and continue on like nothing on her end, (felt better after it broke tbh) will I try again, yes, I would,,,,however,,,,,....... 320_was the total dance and tip, I'd try to haggle down next time if she wants my dance. Any recommendations on a slim dancer, please comment , you people do help alot, thank you[/QUOTE]

Went to Synn day shift to see Katie today. Her profile photo is so intriguing that I had to make a trip to see her. I spotted her as soon as I walked in. She was sitting at the girls booth by the dressing room with two other pretty girls, which I later found out are Ariel and Adore. They were just hanging out and not selling dances which was a bit frustrating. I made eye contact with Katie and I gave her the "come here" fingerbang signal and she finally came to sit with me.

Katie is a 20 year White mix spinner. About 5'3, a-cup breasts, pointy pink nipples and decent ass. She has a photo on Synn's roll call but she looks younger, thinner and prettier in person. She danced at Bliss for a month prior to Synn. Katie is very soft spoken and polite. She reminds of the pre-Covid Sabrina in the way she looks, talks and lays on the couch not selling dances. But I think Sabrina looks better.

In the 3/40, Katie gave me a full contact dance, free fly zone up north, did not try south, allowed feeding, licking on her neck but no kissing. By the 3rd song I asked her about her VIP. Unfortunately she was adamant about no extras. After the dance she introduced me to Ariel and hinted to me that she might offer extras.

Ariel is fresh looking Mexican girl with pretty eyes, reddish hair and a tiny spinner body. Like Katie, she's also soft spoken and polite. Katie, Ariel and Adore are best friends. After talking to Ariel for a few minutes, I decided to cut the chitchat and ask her about VIP. She said the most she would do is a HJ. What a bummer. She suggested I should talk to Adore because she might offer more. By then I was done getting passed around and had to call it for the day.

I decided to finally check out Synn this past Friday and I must admit that I have no regrets. As soon as I walked in I saw this thick ass latina walking away from me. I don't even know who to compare her to but she was exactly what I was looking for. I got a 3/40 with her o feel her out and I asked what was offered in VIP and she said everything. I ended up getting a 15 min with her, but blood flow was already being redirected down south and I think I was suffering from mild hypoxia, I forgot to ask or negotiate prior to going in. When we got in the room she quoted me $$$$$ I was honestly floored, I told her that was way out of my league and she started dancing for me but looked annoyed. God damn this woman was perfect for me, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but damn. Pretty face, real DD, non enhanced phat ass, thick thighs, OMG! About 5 min into VIP she asks how much I got, I told her $. She told me CBJ for $$. I was like fuck it, take my money. As pretty as she was, head game was weak but I had fun.

Side note, I take a while to blow, she started complaining about getting tired. I feel like most latinas I've been with complain about that. Asian women are more robust in that sense. The best head I've gotten was from a Chinese woman, and afterwards she looked at me and told me I was strong for lasting that long. I walked away feeling at least a foot taller.

Also, anyone have any info on Shay. I got a 3/40 with her. She is a gorgeous shawty with nice tits.

[QUOTE=SoGood456;6517571]Nice! I did 2 or 3 VIP visits with Shirley late last year. I didn't get GFE (no kissing, no BB appetizers). I am surprised she didn't put a new wrapper on after it broke. With me almost all dancers have done so, even if it just started slipping a bit. Was she drunk or high? I guess I would pass on DATY with her. I've never gone bare with a Synn COI or any COI dancer for that matter, but have with a few other dancers and a few adult entertainers.

For a slim dancer, I would highly recommend Lorraine, half Asian, half Black, probably about the same price point as Shirley.[/QUOTE]Thank you friend!! I'll try, - (SYNN industry) katie, Adore, Ariel,-are FINE LOOKING WOMEN (DAMMMMMMMM))))))))))! Pixie looked good too, but seems like an experienced minded dancer that doesn't match her baby young looks. .

Diamond looks good too- - -.

[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6518031]
Katie is a 20 year White mix spinner. About 5'3, a-cup breasts, pointy pink nipples and decent ass. She has a photo on Synn's roll call but she looks younger, thinner and prettier in person. She danced at Bliss for a month prior to Synn. Katie is very soft spoken and polite. She reminds of the pre-Covid Sabrina in the way she looks, talks and lays on the couch not selling dances. But I think Sabrina looks better.

In the 3/40, Katie gave me a full contact dance, free fly zone up north, did not try south, allowed feeding, licking on her neck but no kissing. By the 3rd song I asked her about her VIP. Unfortunately she was adamant about no extras. After the dance she introduced me to Ariel and hinted to me that she might offer extras.
[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intelligence on Katie. Still sounds like someone I'd like to dance with, even if just as a warm up. It doesn't really surprise me that a hot 20 year old newbie would be no extras. But give her time.

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6518116]Thank you friend!! I'll try, - (SYNN industry) katie, Adore, Ariel,-are FINE LOOKING WOMEN (DAMMMMMMMM))))))))))! Pixie looked good too, but seems like an experienced minded dancer that doesn't match her baby young looks. .

Diamond looks good too- - -.[/QUOTE]Be careful with Pixie, although cute, a member here had a not-so-good experience (I have no personal experience with her other than her soliciting dances from me):

[QUOTE=RickSanchez01;6477731]I've had her twice (Pixie) First time I had her was for $$. Second time she quoted me $$ and 1/2. However, the second time she was intoxicated and scammed me. Manager should've taken her off the floor. Like after I paid for VIP she disappeared for like 15 min. Management had to go get her. Then once in VIP she dipped out again saying she forgot something. By the time we got started the damn bouncer came in and said time is up. I was surprised and didn't feel like causing a scene because I didn't even get time with her. So best of luck if you decide to go for it.[/QUOTE]Also no personal experience with Diamond but others have had good times with her.

[QUOTE=Dv456;6518115]Also, anyone have any info on Shay. I got a 3/40 with her. She is a gorgeous shawty with nice tits.[/QUOTE]You guys asked about Shay and Diamond. Both are petite, good attitude when I saw them. Cool with 2, good service. Shay has it pierced down there. Soft natural mama tits. She has an * Gave a great 3/40 before we did VIP. Same for Diamond, natural tits, best attitude of the Synn girls I've seen. Between the two I'd try her again.

Shay OF:

[URL]https://onlyfans.com/sweet.shayy[/URL]

Looks like she posts a few times a month so it's more of a fan club if you already like her. For the price, why not. Sometimes it snaps me back to reality paying $6. 99 for a stripper's OF to remind me what $400 is worth (cover + drink + VIP + tip). It is a luxury no doubt so you be sure to get something personal you can't experience off an OF. I use OF to help me remember!

No personal experience with Pixie either but even this past Sunday when she asked mes if I wanted to a dance, I told her to give me a few minutes since I had just walked in and she looked bothered by my answer and as she walked away she simply said "whatever as*.

[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6518664]Be careful with Pixie, although cute, a member here had a not-so-good experience (I have no personal experience with her other than her soliciting dances from me):

Also no personal experience with Diamond but others have had good times with her.[/QUOTE]

Thanks for taking one for the team. I met her on her 2nd day working. She's a bigger girl, more of a Paradise body than Synn. She wouldn't commit to any specific details on her tips on the floor and now I see why. She's trying for delusional big money right out of the gate. Sorry to hear her performance didn't deliver. She'll come back down to reality once the market corrects her.

[QUOTE=Dv456;6518115]Sabrina[/QUOTE]

Sounds like she is becoming a favorite. She gave me a hard no on any oral appetizer before the main course so I politely declined assuming it meant she would just be a mechanical type. I might have to reconsider.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6518759]Diamond[/QUOTE]

I give these three cuties about 2 months before they are going the full distance for big tips. There's just no point in being in a COI club otherwise.

[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6518031]Katie, Ariel and Adore[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Roland2418;6519182]I give these three cuties about 2 months before they are going the full distance for big tips. There's just no point in being in a COI club otherwise.[/QUOTE]Tell that to Portia, Kitty, Penelope and Aurora at SR, and Saweetie at Synn. They've been there for more than a year each and they still kibosh my attempts over the years. And I've tried, trust me LOL. If others have had success feel free to chime in.

General rejection convo went like this:

"So how much extra fun is the VIP?

"I don't do extras."

"Name your price."

"I'm not that kind of girl."

"You're not that kind of girl ... Yet."

"No, I'm not that kind of girl."

Hehe.

[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6519241]Tell that to Portia, Kitty, Penelope and Aurora at SR, and Saweetie at Synn. They've been there for more than a year each and they still kibosh my attempts over the years. And I've tried, trust me LOL. If others have had success feel free to chime in.[/QUOTE]I mean just so everyone understands Portia has been there since 2018, and she does not do extras. She's been there so long they use her in promos of SRCOI along with Amethyst.

It is simply not true you cannot work at SR without doing extras. You just have to consistently sell dances, which Portia has no trouble doing and that shouldn't surprise anyone. Quite the opposite, girls who do extras tend to wash out of SR. Even those with regulars lined up like Ryn hedge by working other clubs because regulars are not enough sometimes. Hence why on her IG she often asks if people are going to show up if she works COI instead of Anaheim. It's sometimes not worth it even for a top girl like her.

One girl from SD actually worked SR in DTLA and she said she had no trouble selling $1000 in rooms but they took 60%-70% of it after everything including tip outs. Whereas at Cheetah's she'd rather make a little less, because it's also a lot less work and chill. Cheetah's takes very little of the dances and rooms. I've seen the payouts with my own eyes (at both places management will hand over their cut, girls I know well also have told me the cut).

If you like a pretty face, all natural DD+, and thick hips all natural too, Chanel would be your woman.

One of my all time favorites at Synn COI. Not much of a talker, but she delivers.

[QUOTE=Dv456;6518115]I decided to finally check out Synn this past Friday and I must admit that I have no regrets. As soon as I walked in I saw this thick ass latina walking away from me. I don't even know who to compare her to but she was exactly what I was looking for. I got a 3/40 with her o feel her out and I asked what was offered in VIP and she said everything. I ended up getting a 15 min with her, but blood flow was already being redirected down south and I think I was suffering from mild hypoxia, I forgot to ask or negotiate prior to going in. When we got in the room she quoted me $$$$$ I was honestly floored, I told her that was way out of my league and she started dancing for me but looked annoyed. God damn this woman was perfect for me, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but damn. Pretty face, real DD, non enhanced phat ass, thick thighs, OMG! About 5 min into VIP she asks how much I got, I told her $. She told me CBJ for $$. I was like fuck it, take my money. As pretty as she was, head game was weak but I had fun.

Side note, I take a while to blow, she started complaining about getting tired. I feel like most latinas I've been with complain about that. Asian women are more robust in that sense. The best head I've gotten was from a Chinese woman, and afterwards she looked at me and told me I was strong for lasting that long. I walked away feeling at least a foot taller.

Also, anyone have any info on Shay. I got a 3/40 with her. She is a gorgeous shawty with nice tits.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6519310]….It is simply not true you cannot work at SR without doing extras….

Quite the opposite, girls who do extras tend to wash out of SR. Even those with regulars lined up like Ryn hedge by working other clubs because regulars are not enough sometimes….

One girl from SD actually worked SR in DTLA and she said she had no trouble selling $1000 in rooms but they took 60%-70% of it after everything including tip outs. Whereas at Cheetah's she'd rather make a little less, because it's also a lot less work and chill. Cheetah's takes very little of the dances and rooms. I've seen the payouts with my own eyes (at both places management will hand over their cut, girls I know well also have told me the cut).[/QUOTE]I would respond true, false and "you believe what strippers tell you? LOL.

I too have probed Portia and Saweetee about extras and feel they are not available (to mere mortals like me, at least). Also found that with various top lookers over the years, some were married & gave only HJs or nothing, some just lived off clean dancing, charm & looks.

And the extras girls often leave for non-money reasons: drugs, fired for disruption or unreliability, BF makes parole, whatever. But hooking in a club is much less work than screening escort ad responders or streetwalking. The customers just show up, line up, and pay up, and there's no LEO worries. So I disagree about "washing out".

I'm also leery about 60-70% taken by the club; at SR, I see them they hand back like 3/4 of the room fee, and how would they know tips paid? Yeah there's stage fees and tip-outs and often make-goods until a certain sales quota level is reached, but no sane girl is going to take that haircut. I think maybe you're hearing sob stories from girls who'd just rather give handies in the Icebox than let a disgusting old dudes like me slobber on her while she gets pounded 12 times a day. Which is their choice & right, of course.

Diamond willing to please FS, CBJ for $$$ though I suspect you can get her lower.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6519310]It is simply not true you cannot work at SR without doing extras.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are non-extras girls at SR and at Synn and some of them seem to do pretty well. But there's always that pressure to go to the dark side when they see their coworkers making bank. There's plenty of evidence of dancers who were non-extras at first giving into the temptation eventually. That doesn't mean that Portia or Saweetie will do so. But at a club like Synn it's not a bad bet to think that newbies like Katie, Ariel and Adore will break down and start sucking and fucking. Just don't be a dick about it while you're waiting for it to happen.

Yes it's good to check in with a specific non-extras crush every couple months, to catch them while they transition, as their prices may be lower or reasonable at first, but can go up. Also once they go to the dark side they will ultimately snag a high roller, or a few, and be "parked" / unavailable to most others for a period of time. Although many lack good customer relationship skills (eventually you have to back up GPS prices with impeccable service) to hold onto these guys, so they can float in and out of full service circulation. I have been able to snatch a few dream girls for a time before they rose out of my league, but missed several others as I waited too long between visits.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6520457]Yes, there are non-extras girls at SR and at Synn and some of them seem to do pretty well. But there's always that pressure to go to the dark side when they see their coworkers making bank. There's plenty of evidence of dancers who were non-extras at first giving into the temptation eventually. That doesn't mean that Portia or Saweetie will do so. But at a club like Synn it's not a bad bet to think that newbies like Katie, Ariel and Adore will break down and start sucking and fucking. Just don't be a dick about it while you're waiting for it to happen.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6519904]I'm also leery about 60-70% taken by the club; at SR, I see them they hand back like 3/4 of the room fee, and how would they know tips paid? Yeah there's stage fees and tip-outs and often make-goods until a certain sales quota level is reached, but no sane girl is going to take that haircut. I think maybe you're hearing sob stories from girls who'd just rather give handies in the Icebox than let a disgusting old dudes like me slobber on her while she gets pounded 12 times a day. Which is their choice & right, of course.[/QUOTE]No. While there are specials where the girl gets a bigger cut on a full VIP like a $220 they will hand back exactly $110. You can see the exact dollar amount on the cash register. It's not some secret. Then the house fee which depending on the shift can be $180. Then tip out to the dj and bouncers. That's 60%-70% unless she's getting large tips. Which is exactly why most girls don't make the SR cut, but the ones who can get those tips stay. My example was for a dancer who tried several LA clubs and this isn't just from her everyone knows LA clubs take a ridiculous cut. Kim clubs easily take 75% if you aren't getting tipped and things are slow.

Here's the thing about the Icebox. I know a few girls who do extras and they literally cannot do them in the Icebox. They do them in regular dances where the cameras have a blind spot. You can literally sit near the security booth and SEE the icebox security feeds. So light extras nobody cares about but nobody is having sex there. They're having sex in regular dances when nobody else is checking (Mon-Thu or dayshift basically).

My point wasn't about the Icebox other than the fact that when you pay $400, the girl gets $320. You see them hand it directly to her every time. Again, it's not some secret.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6520457]Yes, there are non-extras girls at SR and at Synn and some of them seem to do pretty well. But there's always that pressure to go to the dark side when they see their coworkers making bank. There's plenty of evidence of dancers who were non-extras at first giving into the temptation eventually. That doesn't mean that Portia or Saweetie will do so. But at a club like Synn it's not a bad bet to think that newbies like Katie, Ariel and Adore will break down and start sucking and fucking. Just don't be a dick about it while you're waiting for it to happen.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. Someone however made the absurd claim that at SR you cannot survive without extras and that girls are guaranteed to turn into extras. Which if anything is turning out to be the opposite. They're more likely to quit SR than anything else. SR is burning through a lot of girls and it is cutthroat.

I used to check roll call regularly and a lot more extras girls have quit compared to the non-extras girls. What actually happened is half the girls moved on to a Kim club because they only wanted to do extras. Some girls semi-retired (saved up and got married, now "born again" Christian).

One girl I know who moved from a Kim club to SR instead doesn't want to do extras (other than HJ). It was almost impossible to make good money without extras, in her own words.

I showed up for day shift, which is very rare, and decided to observe these 3 dancers and took one for the team. They all try to have the same customers to dance with at least 2 of them. Some dudes do fall for it. In my case I went straight to VIP with Adore when she greeted me. Started as an air dancer, which was a big turn off, few minutes later she crap my hands and placed them on her hard kissable nipples. Lots of play but I was still turn off. She's like, you ain't going to get hard for me, I explained that I typically expect more than a dance in VIl. She leaned over and kissed my neck then after she graved my hand on kitty and lots of play there after. No tip requested but I tipped her 1/2 $. She said next time to expect more. Bottom line, sometimes we need to play hard to get. They'll give in if we show no interest and brush them off at times. But even when doing so, we must be polite and respectful or they'll walk away for good. If it's a dancer I want, I reject her a couple of times before I say yes! Or they expected rate will be in the 400 and up rate.

[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6518031]Went to Synn day shift to see Katie today. Her profile photo is so intriguing that I had to make a trip to see her. I spotted her as soon as I walked in. She was sitting at the girls booth by the dressing room with two other pretty girls, which I later found out are Ariel and Adore. They were just hanging out and not selling dances which was a bit frustrating. I made eye contact with Katie and I gave her the "come here" fingerbang signal and she finally came to sit with me.

Katie is a 20 year White mix spinner. About 5'3, a-cup breasts, pointy pink nipples and decent ass. She has a photo on Synn's roll call but she looks younger, thinner and prettier in person. She danced at Bliss for a month prior to Synn. Katie is very soft spoken and polite. She reminds of the pre-Covid Sabrina in the way she looks, talks and lays on the couch not selling dances. But I think Sabrina looks better.

In the 3/40, Katie gave me a full contact dance, free fly zone up north, did not try south, allowed feeding, licking on her neck but no kissing. By the 3rd song I asked her about her VIP. Unfortunately she was adamant about no extras. After the dance she introduced me to Ariel and hinted to me that she might offer extras.

Ariel is fresh looking Mexican girl with pretty eyes, reddish hair and a tiny spinner body. Like Katie, she's also soft spoken and polite. Katie, Ariel and Adore are best friends. After talking to Ariel for a few minutes, I decided to cut the chitchat and ask her about VIP. She said the most she would do is a HJ. What a bummer. She suggested I should talk to Adore because she might offer more. By then I was done getting passed around and had to call it for the day.[/QUOTE]

Wow, they sure have rough lives: their cars break down a lot, and their mom / granny / dog really needs better health insurance. LOL.

Always remember, their livelihood is to separate your money from your wallet, and to put it into theirs. Convincing you they're your "friends" and getting you to believe is Tactic 1 A of the long con. Maybe that strategy works in the "geisha club" model, where customers are more interested in feeling connection than physical release. But in the context of a transactional extras club, the smart money's on "buyer beware".

Actually, getting 30 cents on the dollar for clean dancing might be the biggest incentive for doing extras, since only extras dancers could get enough to pay the rent & feed the ninos. That'd lead to clean dancers quickly departing for greener pastures & HM girl retention, if anything. Strip clubs may be fantasy world, but the laws of economics eventually apply. So I probably should be hoping that's the case LOL.

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6519904]I would respond true, false and "you believe what strippers tell you? LOL.

I too have probed Portia and Saweetee about extras and feel they are not available (to mere mortals like me, at least). Also found that with various top lookers over the years, some were married & gave only HJs or nothing, some just lived off clean dancing, charm & looks.

And the extras girls often leave for non-money reasons: drugs, fired for disruption or unreliability, BF makes parole, whatever. But hooking in a club is much less work than screening escort ad responders or streetwalking. The customers just show up, line up, and pay up, and there's no LEO worries. So I disagree about "washing out".

I'm also leery about 60-70% taken by the club; at SR, I see them they hand back like 3/4 of the room fee, and how would they know tips paid? Yeah there's stage fees and tip-outs and often make-goods until a certain sales quota level is reached, but no sane girl is going to take that haircut. I think maybe you're hearing sob stories from girls who'd just rather give handies in the Icebox than let a disgusting old dudes like me slobber on her while she gets pounded 12 times a day. Which is their choice & right, of course.[/QUOTE]What is the Icebox, does it refer to the VIP room?