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[QUOTE=Scumbler;1337649]Also a newbie here. Think I've got a handle on most of the AMPs referred to. But where is ML?[/QUOTE]ML stands for Mauna Loa. It's located on the big island of Hawaii. Mongers appease Pele by throwing Korean virgins into it, if they can find any.
[QUOTE=Natty Bohner; 1338644]Has anyone been to B&S off of rt. 7 lately? I haven't been in awhile and was looking for some updated reports. I was at the ocean that is green yesterday. Will post a report of that shortly.
Be safe out there.
Natty BohNER[/QUOTE]Just read a report that they are open under new management, better than before.
Towson Day Spa. I called up before leaving my office and asked the price for a one hour massage. 7 So, I stopped by. When I arrived, I was met by an older woman in her 50s. Once again, I asked for a one hour massage. 7 I am told "OK", so I began to undress. In walks this very attractive asian woman, about 40, with nice tits and beautiful dark hair and red lips. Then, she gets down on her knees in front of me and smiles. At this point, I am starting to smile myself! She then pleads with me that she is the only person on duty who gives massage and asked if I would take a 30 minute massage. But, when she mentioned that 30 minutes is for. 6 instead of an hour massage for. 7, I knew I was being conned. So, I declined and she got up and gave me a dirty look. So much for the smile and the massage.
Last week I decided to take advantage of the lower price and try 1416. The provider was Shu-Shu (I think). We went up to the room and I must admit that the massage itself was very good. BUT, she remained fully dressed in long pants and a sweater. After the flip, I sked if I could see more and was refused."The boss won't let us."
She massaged my front and then asked if she could touch something else. I quickly agreed and she went to work, but suddenly stopped and said,"thank you, we done."
"No we are not" I told her but she insisted that the time had run out. Well, hell. I got dressed and headed for the door and she told me I forgot to tip her. I told her that she did not finish so there was no tip. She started to get angry so I gave her. 2 to keep her from making a scene. She asked for more but I told her again, No, you didn't finish. Fortunately, some real relief was only a few doors away.
The door fee makes this place tempting, but was I just unlucky in who I got or is this how this place opertes?
[QUOTE=Popcruiser; 1338898]Last week I decided to take advantage of the lower price and try 1416. The provider was Shu-Shu (I think). We went up to the room and I must admit that the massage itself was very good. BUT, she remained fully dressed in long pants and a sweater. After the flip, I sked if I could see more and was refused."The boss won't let us."
She massaged my front and then asked if she could touch something else. I quickly agreed and she went to work, but suddenly stopped and said,"thank you, we done."
"No we are not" I told her but she insisted that the time had run out. Well, hell. I got dressed and headed for the door and she told me I forgot to tip her. I told her that she did not finish so there was no tip. She started to get angry so I gave her. 2 to keep her from making a scene. She asked for more but I told her again, No, you didn't finish. Fortunately, some real relief was only a few doors away.
The door fee makes this place tempting, but was I just unlucky in who I got or is this how this place opertes?[/QUOTE]I think that you got unlucky. FS was available after the new management. Perhaps you gave off a Leo vibe?
[QUOTE=Belrocker;1339054]I saw an ad in CP for that address, new name. Where did you see the report?[/QUOTE]I saw the ad too but didn't see anything about new management: [url]http://baltimore.craigslist.org/thp/2747018487.html[/url]
[QUOTE=Bullmarket2;1338871]Towson Day Spa. I called up before leaving my office and asked the price for a one hour massage. 7 So, I stopped by. When I arrived, I was met by an older woman in her 50s. Once again, I asked for a one hour massage. 7 I am told "OK", so I began to undress. In walks this very attractive asian woman, about 40, with nice tits and beautiful dark hair and red lips. Then, she gets down on her knees in front of me and smiles. At this point, I am starting to smile myself! She then pleads with me that she is the only person on duty who gives massage and asked if I would take a 30 minute massage. But, when she mentioned that 30 minutes is for. 6 instead of an hour massage for. 7, I knew I was being conned. So, I declined and she got up and gave me a dirty look. So much for the smile and the massage.[/QUOTE]I went to Towson Spa in September and had the same experience, but I didn't get an option for 30 mins. The same woman just went for the flip after 20 minutes and tried to bring things to the unhappy conclusion. Pretty much the same thing happened at York Spa just this week. The AMP's in north BC have decided that an hour is between 30 and 40 minutes, and all the fun is gone.
Went to see Anna today, very slow around lunchtime with 5 girls waiting for customers. Massage was OK, got the 1/2 hour, which was not shorted at all. Opted for a dental probing which I tipped. 6 she did a little pouting aiming for. 8, but I held my ground. Now maybe had I paid for an hour, then I would tip. 8 for the service, but it seems to only make sense to tip slightly less when you only take the 1/2 hr option, as they can ultimately make more tips by freeing up their time for another client, right?
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1339549]Went to see Anna today, very slow around lunchtime with 5 girls waiting for customers. Massage was OK, got the 1/2 hour, which was not shorted at all. Opted for a dental probing which I tipped. 6 she did a little pouting aiming for. 8, but I held my ground. Now maybe had I paid for an hour, then I would tip. 8 for the service, but it seems to only make sense to tip slightly less when you only take the 1/2 hr option, as they can ultimately make more tips by freeing up their time for another client, right?[/QUOTE]So, by that logic, if you would have opted for FS you would have only tipped. 8 instead of the usual $. It is becoming clear to me now, why we are experiencing shorted time, and mediocre service. I will call it the Scrooge effect. If you get what you pay for, wouldn't it make sense to by the filet, rather than chuck? Remember, tipping is for quality of service, and should be given freely if the service has warranted it. Merry Christmas.
GTR
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1339549]Went to see Anna today, very slow around lunchtime with 5 girls waiting for customers. Massage was OK, got the 1/2 hour, which was not shorted at all. Opted for a dental probing which I tipped. 6 she did a little pouting aiming for. 8, but I held my ground. Now maybe had I paid for an hour, then I would tip. 8 for the service, but it seems to only make sense to tip slightly less when you only take the 1/2 hr option, as they can ultimately make more tips by freeing up their time for another client, right?[/QUOTE]The tip is for the level of service you get, not the time. She should be upset with you. Cheap Charlie!
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1339549]Went to see Anna today, very slow around lunchtime with 5 girls waiting for customers. Massage was OK, got the 1/2 hour, which was not shorted at all. Opted for a dental probing which I tipped. 6 she did a little pouting aiming for. 8, but I held my ground. Now maybe had I paid for an hour, then I would tip. 8 for the service, but it seems to only make sense to tip slightly less when you only take the 1/2 hr option, as they can ultimately make more tips by freeing up their time for another client, right?[/QUOTE]I would try to think of it this way: You are paying for two separate things. The massage and the "dental probing" as you so eloquently put it. The cost of one should not affect the cost of the other, especially since it was your choice to get the 1/2. If you're being shorted on time, that's another conversation.
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1339549]Went to see Anna today, very slow around lunchtime with 5 girls waiting for customers. Massage was OK, got the 1/2 hour, which was not shorted at all. Opted for a dental probing which I tipped. 6 she did a little pouting aiming for. 8, but I held my ground. Now maybe had I paid for an hour, then I would tip. 8 for the service, but it seems to only make sense to tip slightly less when you only take the 1/2 hr option, as they can ultimately make more tips by freeing up their time for another client, right?[/QUOTE]The enjoyment that I get out of this hobby is primarily linked to the attitude of the provider. I am always laughing to myself when I read others complaining about bad service. With some research and a little generosity, I have not had that problem for a long time. I always tip. 2 more than the going rate up front and then sometimes a little more after if the service is really exceptional. For this small extra percentage I am treated like a king. I'm that asshole that steals the better providers from you. I'm the one who makes them short your time because I just called and requested them. I'm the reason the table shower is busy. Gentlemen, you really should try it my way sometime, and remember, its not just how much you tip but YOUR attitude as well that effects the service you receive.
[QUOTE=Paul Hahn3;1339933]The tip is for the level of service you get, not the time. She should be upset with you. Cheap Charlie![/QUOTE]Meh, .6 is the low end of the acceptable rate for service rendered. Lets not be weak and raise their own levels of what is "acceptable" with some idiots overpaying. Afterall, don't street walkers provide us the exact same services for a pricing structure the customer has set for much less? It is ultimately the consumer who sets the price ranges of what they will pay for a product or service, not the provider.
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1339549]Went to see Anna today, very slow around lunchtime with 5 girls waiting for customers. Massage was OK, got the 1/2 hour, which was not shorted at all. Opted for a dental probing which I tipped. 6 she did a little pouting aiming for. 8, but I held my ground. Now maybe had I paid for an hour, then I would tip. 8 for the service, but it seems to only make sense to tip slightly less when you only take the 1/2 hr option, as they can ultimately make more tips by freeing up their time for another client, right?[/QUOTE]Yes you always ask for an hour. Because you have put her in a bad mood entering the door.
Felt the need for something new so went to VR. Upscale spa, really nice, really clean. Charge was way more than expected 1. 35 at the door and I should have walked but you know the story. Was shown to my room and in came Lucy, middle aged, heavy Russian girl (only one other girl is available and only on certain days. There had been a third girl there, an american, for a while that recently quit). Got the table massage which was great. The table has 6 shower heads over top of the table, (the table was clean and the waster was warm unlike JHH) and the rub down was exceptional. Got onto the massage table and it was covered with plush towels and very clean and comfortable. The massage was also great. Flip time I paid for what I was thinking would be FS or at least BJ but only HJ offered. When I asked if anything else was ever available she whispered, 'you never know what might happen'; for the money I wouldn't risk it again. At the end it didn't seem like an hour but Lucy told me it had been over an hour. Got to the car and looked at the clock and it had been 45 minutes door to door.
Looks. 6.
Attitude. 9.
Massage. 9.
Ambiance. 10.
Flip. 5 (great for what it was but it only was what it was)
Time management. 5.
Total damage embarrassing.
Some day some place will open with all 10's.
HD *woof*
[QUOTE=Houndog1;1340178]Some day some place will open with all 10's.[/QUOTE]HA! Love that! That's why we keep going, isn't that right Houndog?
Let me know if you find it. Meanwhile, I'll continue on my quest.
BD
I used to go to a place on York Road at Padonia. The AMP was a two story house with some tables in the basement and one bedroom on the first flr and two bedrooms on the 2nd flr. After my first couple visits I was brought upstairs for the FS. The girls rotated every ten days and all were young, non over late twenties, and beautiful. There was on girl named Ling Ling who did work there a long time who was Korean but most of the others were Chinese but some were Malaysian, from Singapore. The whole nut was $$ one$ for the house and one$ for the girl and a total GFE. It was a great time with a beautiful girl and a double bed to roll around on. The were no tables showers but standard ones and the women got in with you and washed you a bit. One day when I had mad money I stayed in there for six hours and fucked them all. For them an hour was 45 minutes but because I went there so often I was usually given 60 minutes. Jenni the manager would call me when extra special women were working there. These girls were true professionals who were in it for the big money and travelled a national circuit. Tragicly I called to let Jenni know I was coming and there was no answer and there never was again. This place was a brothel really not a MP with FS on narrow tables.
Damn I miss that place.
Yes, right next to the old crown station. Uhh, mmmmmm
I would call up, and the girls would be there waiting for me. OMG I loved that place.
The assistant. Can't remember her name had greenish teeth. Yuk. No doubt wasabi peas. LOL.
But the girls where amazing.
However, if there was a place that might be a trafficer of women. That was it.
So, I am sorta glad its gone. I finally deleted the cell number.
Smilng Fox, ; }
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1340072]Meh, .6 is the low end of the acceptable rate for service rendered. Lets not be weak and raise their own levels of what is "acceptable" with some idiots overpaying.[/QUOTE]"Low end" is just another term for being cheap. .8 is the standard rate for that service. Particularly at some of the better AMP's like JHH. No wonder you got the stink eye.
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1340072]Afterall, don't street walkers provide us the exact same services for a pricing structure the customer has set for much less?[/QUOTE]That's apples and oranges. Again, you're comparing one thing that is totally unreated to the other. It was explained to me once that the difference between street walkers and AMP providers (and the fee structure) is the difference between quantity and quality. You pay for what you get.
Don't be cheap. And go for the hour.
BD
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1340072]Meh, .6 is the low end of the acceptable rate for service rendered. Lets not be weak and raise their own levels of what is "acceptable" with some idiots overpaying. Afterall, don't street walkers provide us the exact same services for a pricing structure the customer has set for much less? It is ultimately the consumer who sets the price ranges of what they will pay for a product or service, not the provider.[/QUOTE]Sorry but its the provider who sets the rate and the level of service. Without them you get nothing. Sure there are things that can effect it but if I pay what I pay and am happy and you pay what you want to pay and end up whining and complaining then who's the idiot? The prices have been stable for a long time and this is how they are finally going to go up so you're just going to have to get used to it.
Went to visit Anna the other day and ended up having Yoyo. It was the typical good massage as expected with hot stones. Only different thing I noticed tho was Yoyo was trying to fish for information and mentioned slightly asking if I ever heard of any forums other that reviewed parlors. I told her that I didn't know of any and that if she found one that was reliable to let me know. Massage was usual yoyo establishment finished. Everything was great. Usual cost and tip.
[QUOTE=LuckyMoney;1340737]Sorry but its the provider who sets the rate and the level of service. Without them you get nothing. Sure there are things that can effect it but if I pay what I pay and am happy and you pay what you want to pay and end up whining and complaining then who's the idiot? The prices have been stable for a long time and this is how they are finally going to go up so you're just going to have to get used to it.[/QUOTE]You seem to be clueless on how a free economy operates. The provider can only charge what the consumer is willing to pay, or they have no customers and end up lowering their expectations or finding another line of work. Do you honestly think the provider could set their rate at 1000 and expect a steady flow of customers. NO, because the CONSUMER has the purchasing power and ultimately is the one who determines the value{therefor price} of all goods and services. Simple concept for most to grasp. I am not whining, I tipped the proper amount for the level of service and satisfaction I received.
[QUOTE=Mandruas;1338677]ML stands for Mauna Loa. It's located on the big island of Hawaii. Mongers appease Pele by throwing Korean virgins into it, if they can find any.[/QUOTE]Verrry funny. Anyone care to be more helpful? ML stands for. And is located.
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1341165]You seem to be clueless on how a free economy operates. The provider can only charge what the consumer is willing to pay, or they have no customers and end up lowering their expectations or finding another line of work. Do you honestly think the provider could set their rate at 1000 and expect a steady flow of customers. NO, because the CONSUMER has the purchasing power and ultimately is the one who determines the value{therefor price} of all goods and services. Simple concept for most to grasp. I am not whining, I tipped the proper amount for the level of service and satisfaction I received.[/QUOTE]I see, you are like the little boy who promises to be good if you give him a cookie first. Good luck with that. You received the proper service and satisfaction for the level of tip that you gave. What you can't seem to grasp is that the price is being set a little bit higher by those of us willing to pay it and we are being rewarded by substantially superior service and attitude. Please continue to be cheap though, it makes the girls just that much happier to see me.
[QUOTE=Scumbler;1341272]Verrry funny. Anyone care to be more helpful? ML stands for. And is located.[/QUOTE]You're right. Such foolishness. ML actually stands for Mucho Lusto. Do a search of the site and all will be revealed.
[QUOTE=Scumbler;1341272]Verrry funny. Anyone care to be more helpful? ML stands for. And is located.[/QUOTE]Do a Google search for erotic massage parlors, Woodlawn. Next time RTFF.
GTR
[QUOTE=The NewGuy;1340954]Went to visit Anna the other day and ended up having Yoyo. It was the typical good massage as expected with hot stones. Only different thing I noticed tho was Yoyo was trying to fish for information and mentioned slightly asking if I ever heard of any forums other that reviewed parlors. I told her that I didn't know of any and that if she found one that was reliable to let me know. Massage was usual yoyo establishment finished. Everything was great. Usual cost and tip.[/QUOTE]If she reads them as she says she does and remembers what you said, don't you think she'll realize that it was you? I hope you didn't say anything too negative or your next hot stone massage may be a hot burning stone massage. Ouch! Something to consider.
Z3
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1341165]You seem to be clueless on how a free economy operates. The provider can only charge what the consumer is willing to pay, or they have no customers and end up lowering their expectations or finding another line of work. Do you honestly think the provider could set their rate at 1000 and expect a steady flow of customers. NO, because the CONSUMER has the purchasing power and ultimately is the one who determines the value{therefor price} of all goods and services. Simple concept for most to grasp. I am not whining, I tipped the proper amount for the level of service and satisfaction I received.[/QUOTE]If she remembers you and your tipping practice, you can count on limited or sub par service. In the end you get what you pay for.
[QUOTE=Butter Dog; 1340223]HA! Love that! That's why we keep going, isn't that right Houndog?
Let me know if you find it. Meanwhile, I'll continue on my quest.
BD[/QUOTE]You know, after the first few times that's what it is, more about the hunt. There are the good stand by's, but they get old and it's the hunt for the perfect 10 in new places that keeps you going.
Happy hunting,
HD *woof*
[QUOTE=Scumbler;1341272]Verrry funny. Anyone care to be more helpful? ML stands for. And is located.[/QUOTE]Poor thing. You are such a moron. Worse, you are a Lazy moron.
[QUOTE=Henlopen;1341165]You seem to be clueless on how a free economy operates. The provider can only charge what the consumer is willing to pay, or they have no customers and end up lowering their expectations or finding another line of work. Do you honestly think the provider could set their rate at 1000 and expect a steady flow of customers. NO, because the CONSUMER has the purchasing power and ultimately is the one who determines the value{therefor price} of all goods and services. Simple concept for most to grasp. I am not whining, I tipped the proper amount for the level of service and satisfaction I received.[/QUOTE]You failed econ didn't you.
Supply and demand. More hobbiests than EMP providers, means the providers have a pretty good say in what they can market their services for. She values herself at X, she does not have to do anything but provide a massage, if you don't pay X and she doesn't except your offer, you get no extra service. Simple. You don't have to pay and she doesn't have to take less, you can both go your seperate ways after the massage.
EMP providers take all the risk, they set their own 'rewards' lucky for us there has not been a significant price increase in oh say 20 years or so. If its still too much for you, find another hobby, porn is freely available on the internet and you have 2 hands, pick one.
Checked it out over the weekend. She answered the door. I should have asked for a lineup but I just went with her, since she was ok looking and had a decent face and nice tits. I kicked myself later cause I kept hearing the doorbell and realized there must have been plenty of others working.
Not young enough or think enough that I had to get FS, but cute enough that I wanted a BJ.
She wanted a CBJ, upcharged me for BB, then told me not to CIM. ? If I wasnt going to CIM, what would I bother paying more for a BBJ for?
The BBJ was only ok. Good spit, needed more suction and better grip. It wasn't bad, just ok.
Pleasant attitude, decent enough massage.
I would go back but not with Linda again.
What would you do? Go back to BS and try a different girl or try out JHH?
[QUOTE=Zappa3; 1341500]If she reads them as she says she does and remembers what you said, don't you think she'll realize that it was you? I hope you didn't say anything too negative or your next hot stone massage may be a hot burning stone massage. Ouch! Something to consider.
Z3[/QUOTE]What was there to say? I told her I had no clue about the forum. Also I don't think she will realize who I am etc based on my comment here. I also said the massage was great as usual so why would you suggest I would get burned for it?
[QUOTE=Butter Dog; 1340602]"Low end" is just another term for being cheap. .8 is the standard rate for that service. Particularly at some of the better AMP's like JHH. No wonder you got the stink eye.
That's apples and oranges. Again, you're comparing one thing that is totally unreated to the other. It was explained to me once that the difference between street walkers and AMP providers (and the fee structure) is the difference between quantity and quality. You pay for what you get.
Don't be cheap. And go for the hour.
BD[/QUOTE]True words, and honey will always get you more than vinegar. Try this, if the manager is not the owner, tip her a twenty once in a while. I used to do this at a spa on 9th Street in DC, and she would always get me the big room, always make sure my time was enjoyable. Heck, she even took me on once, just because I was nice to her (she was hot, too.).
If you have a favorite provider at a place you are a regular, try giving her an extra twenty, too. I have gotten much, much more than twenty in mileage back.
Be generous, and yes, go for the hour.
[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/update-novas-asian-massage-parlors-raided/2011/12/18/gIQAGrlb4O_blog.html?wpisrc=nl_buzz[/url]
Thirty-eight were empty, I wonder if the word got out ahead of the raids.
Election year politics?
OMG yes, always go for the hour. The service is light years different. If you're just looking for a quick release get a BJ in your car for 0. 2$. You have no business paying for the upcharge.
And I tipped a girl an extra twenty once and on my next visit the service skyrocketed. Paid back a hundred times.
Faust.
[QUOTE=Ginger Man; 1341789]True words, and honey will always get you more than vinegar. Try this, if the manager is not the owner, tip her a twenty once in a while. I used to do this at a spa on 9th Street in DC, and she would always get me the big room, always make sure my time was enjoyable. Heck, she even took me on once, just because I was nice to her (she was hot, too.).
If you have a favorite provider at a place you are a regular, try giving her an extra twenty, too. I have gotten much, much more than twenty in mileage back.
Be generous, and yes, go for the hour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ginger Man; 1341794][url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/update-novas-asian-massage-parlors-raided/2011/12/18/gIQAGrlb4O_blog.html?wpisrc=nl_buzz[/url]
Thirty-eight were empty, I wonder if the word got out ahead of the raids.
Election year politics?[/QUOTE]Did anybody else notice that the author's last name is Jackman?
[QUOTE=Vega Wrap; 1341657]Checked it out over the weekend. She answered the door. I should have asked for a lineup but I just went with her, since she was ok looking and had a decent face and nice tits. I kicked myself later cause I kept hearing the doorbell and realized there must have been plenty of others working.
Not young enough or think enough that I had to get FS, but cute enough that I wanted a BJ.
She wanted a CBJ, upcharged me for BB, then told me not to CIM. ? If I wasnt going to CIM, what would I bother paying more for a BBJ for?
The BBJ was only ok. Good spit, needed more suction and better grip. It wasn't bad, just ok.
Pleasant attitude, decent enough massage.
I would go back but not with Linda again.
What would you do? Go back to BS and try a different girl or try out JHH?[/QUOTE]Probably should go back and just get a line up at bs. It seems what you're looking for is rather specific and you can get it at either place. At least you'll get more relaxed attitude as a returning customer. I don't know who is at bs now but some of the better girls have actually moved to vs as of last week. For me personally anyway, a line up at any of these places would not have resulted in getting the girls who have become my favorites.
[QUOTE=Feldman;1342060]Did anybody else notice that the author's last name is Jackman?[/QUOTE]I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the newsroom to see the other guys in the office give him shit for that. Hand gestures and blowup dolls, Korean / Engrish dictionary's... The list could go on forever
Bench
[QUOTE=The NewGuy;1341682]What was there to say? I told her I had no clue about the forum. Also I don't think she will realize who I am etc based on my comment here. I also said the massage was great as usual so why would you suggest I would get burned for it?[/QUOTE]When she asked you if you knew of any AMP review forums, you gave her a specific answer which you had mentioned in your post. Assuming she read your post, she will likely know it was you who is posting.