Non Pro's

I have VPN running on my computer and used a new burner email and bought a visa gift card with cash and still got my account suspended from SA.

Any other thoughts? It really is the best place to find UTR non-pros.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5334657]I have VPN running on my computer and used a new burner email and bought a visa gift card with cash and still got my account suspended from SA.

Any other thoughts? It really is the best place to find UTR non-pros.[/QUOTE]I think they fingerprint your pc. I had an account that was banned for using the wrong VPN and was not able to re-register. I had a OS problem and needed to flatten and update my pc. I was able to create a new ID and still use a different VPN although I'm just looking and have not paid.

[QUOTE=EngrJoe;5334682]I think they fingerprint your pc. I had an account that was banned for using the wrong VPN and was not able to re-register. I had a OS problem and needed to flatten and update my pc. I was able to create a new ID and still use a different VPN although I'm just looking and have not paid.[/QUOTE]Firefox blocks fingerprinting. There are chrome extensions that block it as well. I read google was going to add come anti-fingerprinting controls but I'm not sure about it.

[QUOTE=BoBroBgobs;5334554]Don't waste your money on Secret Benefit. You need to pay to get messages unlocked. And it seems (the girls (either real or not) get a commission from their messages being unlocked. So you'll get loads and loads of girls messaging you, but when you unlock their message and reply, you'll never hear back from them.[/QUOTE]I've had pretty good luck with Secret Benefits. Agreed they are obviously giving the girls some kind of benny if they get you to unlock messages to them, but that is just one more kind of petty corruption that all of the arrangement sites suffer from. For me it all comes out in the wash.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5334835]Firefox blocks fingerprinting. There are chrome extensions that block it as well. I read google was going to add come anti-fingerprinting controls but I'm not sure about it.[/QUOTE]The jpeg picture format allows additional information to be embedded in the jpeg file. I assume that is what "fingerprinting" refers to. If you are going to send or post a picture and you want to insure that there is no fingerprinting information in the picture do the following:

1) Use a picture viewing program such as Vueprint or the Linux image viewer to convert the picture from a jpg to a bmp.

2) Delete the original jpg picture and use the viewer to convert the bmp back to jpg format.

The bmp format does not allow fingerprinting information, and that information will be lost upon converting to bmp. Do not send or upload the bmp picture because the file size is too large. Bmp is an uncompressed format.

Go to the site [URL]https://amiunique.org[/URL].

They have a page that will show you all the elements they can detect, and how unique your value for each of them is, along with the aggregate uniqueness.

The results may surprise you.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5334289]There are a few gems in there. Yeah, they're not all supermodels. But I'd rather have a MILF that genuinely loves to fuck than a supermodel that treats you like an inconvenience.

Just my personal taste.[/QUOTE]I 100% agree that I'd rather get an experience that I'll never forget with a regular gal versus an experience I'd rather not have ever even tried out with some girl who has an overblown self-worth. Not tried the whole SA / SB thing but sounds like a pain. I'll stick to the UTRs that I've been lucky enough to find that post infrequently on the other sites.

[QUOTE=RandyDarwin;5335425]Go to the site [URL]https://amiunique.org[/URL].

They have a page that will show you all the elements they can detect, and how unique your value for each of them is, along with the aggregate uniqueness.

The results may surprise you.[/QUOTE]Correct. Even with a VPN. You can be fingerprinted. In fact fingerprinting was created by intelligence agencies to be able to track persons of interest even if they were on VPN or TOR. There are ways of getting around fingerprinting. But now you really really must be doing something very secret. To want that level of privacy. One thing people do not realize, you can be almost zero footprint online, but it is extremely inconvenient and you have to be extremely disciplined. If you use the wrong persona even once, Any good agency can easily join your personas and figure out your fake "alias" and hence your history. The lower the footprint. The more disciplined and the more inconvenient it becomes to use the internet. Switching IDs, browsers and personas for different tasks talks a lot of discipline and it is not for everyone.

Love the pussy but hate giving the site my cash.

Lexyluvsnug has been discussed here before. 1 k for an hour last time we talked. Nice girl, skinny and kinda cute in a gnd way.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5332534]In order of likely to unlikely, here's a few. You'll see a few pros in there from "other sites". But the UTR ones are the fun ones.

[URL]https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddlers/[/URL]

[URL]https://cuddlist.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]

Thanks for the idea, WSS. There are some definite gems there. Any advice on how to bring up the topic of going beyond cuddling? Better idea to bring it up in messages before or just 'go with the flow'.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5332534]In order of likely to unlikely, here's a few. You'll see a few pros in there from "other sites". But the UTR ones are the fun ones.

[URL]https://www.cuddlecomfort.com/[/URL]

[URL]https://cuddlecompanions.org/cuddlers/[/URL]

[URL]https://cuddlist.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Kinkaid69;5336982]Lexyluvsnug has been discussed here before. 1 k for an hour last time we talked. Nice girl, skinny and kinda cute in a gnd way.[/QUOTE]Shit. For 1 k an hour I'd cuddle with a simp.

[QUOTE=Glargo;5337759]Thanks for the idea, WSS. There are some definite gems there. Any advice on how to bring up the topic of going beyond cuddling? Better idea to bring it up in messages before or just 'go with the flow'.[/QUOTE]I haven't done the cuddle site, but from other experiences, you'd want to "go with the flow", try to create a connection, and let things happen. Unless they're a pro, they'll likely shut you down if you lead with your prime intentions.

Can anyone PM me an email or phone number for Grace from SA? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2b331aee-5968-41c3-ac7c-e77eec66433a[/URL].

I let my subscription lapse and can no longer read messages. I think I want to give her a try but need to message her.

Would love any reports if anyone has spent time with her.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=KuatoKuato;5338598]Can anyone PM me an email or phone number for Grace from SA? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2b331aee-5968-41c3-ac7c-e77eec66433a[/URL].

I let my subscription lapse and can no longer read messages. I think I want to give her a try but need to message her.

Would love any reports if anyone has spent time with her.

Thanks.[/QUOTE]She got some titties on her, I'm hitting her up.

[QUOTE=WoodRow71;5315227]Watch out for XOFoxyXO.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/7GBPdRga0r9z8Va5Q2On6DwW[/URL]

For someone who has been reading this site for so long you would think I would have thought better. Contacted me with. 5 first date, ended up pretty much being meet and greet. But seemed like a cool chick. Then over the last week got me to meet once more, but no time for fun. Stupidly sent her money through Venmo. Last 3 times set up dates been no-gos. 1st night was she kept being delayed in traffic, not sure what traffic at 8 pm. 2nd night was she was in the shower, and then her neighbors randomly showed up at 10 pm. And 3rd night was pure ghosted.

All in all lost about $300, but at least she sent me some nice videos.[/QUOTE]Fuck. I've been talking to her.

[QUOTE=Bronco62;5329042]Nice conversation, seemed legit. Wanted 4 K-5 K per month for meeting 2 times a week.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/d839140c-e523-4ab1-bf97-6beebe6f9361[/URL][/QUOTE]It has all the hallmarks of being an obvious fake. You've got to learn how to tell the difference between real and fake, or you'll become the "fool" in the old saying about a fool and his money.

No offense.

[QUOTE=TigerSong;5339043]Fuck. I've been talking to her.[/QUOTE]Prepaying that much, that often can only end in disappointment. Yeah, it was "only" $300, but the amount isn't the point -- when you guys allow this to happen, you invite more and more scammers into system. I don't think anyone should be prepaying and certainly not for three consecutive meetups that fell through.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3e6d4dc7-c5d2-4132-bbab-b70720035418[/URL]

Anyone seen here?

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5339597]Prepaying that much, that often can only end in disappointment. Yeah, it was "only" $300, but the amount isn't the point -- when you guys allow this to happen, you invite more and more scammers into system. I don't think anyone should be prepaying and certainly not for three consecutive meetups that fell through.[/QUOTE]No lie. Becuase of suckers it's made filtering more time consuming.

[QUOTE=TigerSong;5339829][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3e6d4dc7-c5d2-4132-bbab-b70720035418[/URL]
Anyone seen here?[/QUOTE]She is legit. Sexual dynamo, she is definitely on the mature side, great body, likes her alcohol, more PSE than GFE, a bit business like, at least with me, she had a time limit of two hours and she paid attention to it. Does not host.

[QUOTE=TheOnlyOmni;5338753]She got some titties on her, I'm hitting her up.[/QUOTE]I was talking to her but I remember she wanted 5 $$ I believe. Is that what you're paying? IMO, not worth it so naaa. She's hot though and big titties for sure.

[QUOTE=TnaPorter;5339597]Prepaying that much, that often can only end in disappointment. Yeah, it was "only" $300, but the amount isn't the point -- when you guys allow this to happen, you invite more and more scammers into system. I don't think anyone should be prepaying and certainly not for three consecutive meetups that fell through.[/QUOTE]It's not about prepaying 'that much', it's about prepaying at all. NEVER pre-pay. Never send money electronically to a sb, hoor, or whatever. Pay for services in cash at the time of the rendering of those services. Anything else and you're being taken for a ride and fucking it up for the rest of us. As TnaP says, the more you guys send money for nothing the more numerous the scammers get.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5340534]It's not about prepaying 'that much', it's about prepaying at all. NEVER pre-pay. Never send money electronically to a sb, hoor, or whatever. Pay for services in cash at the time of the rendering of those services. Anything else and you're being taken for a ride and fucking it up for the rest of us. As TnaP says, the more you guys send money for nothing the more numerous the scammers get.[/QUOTE]Seriously. Every time any of you get ghosted after pre-paying, sending gas money, etc just remember that you're a sucker and a simp. Maybe that will help remind you.

"But it's only happened a few times. ".

Getting ripped off once is too many times, sucka.

[QUOTE=Glargo;5337759]Thanks for the idea, WSS. There are some definite gems there. Any advice on how to bring up the topic of going beyond cuddling? Better idea to bring it up in messages before or just 'go with the flow'.[/QUOTE]Pull out your pecker and shove it in her face.

If she gobbles, she's a pro and you're paying way too much for the service.

If she screams and hits you with mace or a tazer, then you probably should have just went for a worker that advertises that they will have sex instead of throwing a bunch of money at a person who plainly says that they will not have sex.

If your kink is to feel like Don Juan / Pepe LePew, then get a pro and tell them that's your kink and they'll play all the hard to get you want and then have sex.

Wants online only, no amount discussed. Her private pics are not her but close enough to fool you if you don't look too long. Reverse image search did not get results for her primary pics. I'll admit I got excited when I saw that rack.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2717f25b-b536-4cf7-a6c6-e72e698e6c33[/URL]

[quote=anonymous420;5341105]pull out your pecker and shove it in her face.
If she screams and hits you with mace or a tazer, then you probably should have just went for a worker that advertises that they will have sex instead of throwing a bunch of money at a person who plainly says that they will not have sex.
[/quote]roflmmfao.

[QUOTE=DelToro;5340241]She is legit. Sexual dynamo, she is definitely on the mature side, great body, likes her alcohol, more PSE than GFE, a bit business like, at least with me, she had a time limit of two hours and she paid attention to it. Does not host.[/QUOTE]Did you bb her? Cip?

Any experience with these people? Am talking to them. Yet to meetup.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4b733ee9-a4d0-4607-b6d0-30eadea5f13b[/URL] - pineapplezlicez.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/7d5fac9b-6b61-4c71-8190-8c8f4d144ca0[/URL] - Brinababy16.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ad2ac5b7-dcdf-444b-914d-bdeea2f82d80[/URL] - Latinajd.

[QUOTE=Glargo;5337759]Thanks for the idea, WSS. There are some definite gems there. Any advice on how to bring up the topic of going beyond cuddling? Better idea to bring it up in messages before or just 'go with the flow'.[/QUOTE]Be clear that the odds are low, so if you do something immediate and grabby you're likely to be shown the door and banned shortly thereafter. Or worse. I generally find that being generous is the start, followed by some very minimal and careful boundary exploration. It may take a second visit. Read the signals, and go slowly and carefully.

Working UTR ladies isn't a skill everyone is capable of. It takes patience and finesse, which some aren't capable of. But it can deliver some amazing experiences if you're willing to invest.

P.S. The advice given in the other response is a) why I didn't reply with specific ladies here or via PM and b) a great way to get arrested for assault.

[QUOTE=Glargo;5337759]Thanks for the idea, WSS. There are some definite gems there. Any advice on how to bring up the topic of going beyond cuddling? Better idea to bring it up in messages before or just 'go with the flow'.[/QUOTE]Seriously, why would you want to try this? 'Cuddling' is not code for fucking, it literally means just cuddling. I'll add to the chorus and tell you that it's a dumb idea. As silly as it seems to me 'professional cuddler' is a real, above-board occupation and I think it's VERY unlikely you're going to get anything other than what they advertise and it's a stupid idea to try. Just like with a professional massage therapist you'll be asked to leave or have the cops called on you if you cross those strict boundaries. You're complicating a hobby that is already more fucked up than I've ever seen it, especially in the PNW and Seattle, and you'd only be inviting unwanted attention to yourself. Maybe it's about the conquest for you, in that case I think you're just going to be met with disappointment or worse going this route.

You also stand a good chance of getting black-balled from other legit services. I dated a fully legit massage therapist for a while and even though they aren't supposed to they have blacklists of clients who ask about happy endings or do other shit they aren't supposed to. These are shared across all types of professional services- acupuncturists, chiroquacks, reiki whackaloons, etc.

Use your big head, man. The little one is a moron- ask me how I know.

[QUOTE=TheOnlyOmni;5341376]Any experience with these people? Am talking to them. Yet to meetup.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/4b733ee9-a4d0-4607-b6d0-30eadea5f13b[/URL] - pineapplezlicez.

[/QUOTE]I posted about that one. Want's 300 for a meet and greet. Will only consider sex for 800+ Bad attitude and managed.

Enjoy.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/1ce83b6d-8e27-4b6d-965a-00e5cb22a266[/URL]

Picture seller. Got mad that I didn't want to pay an allowance for pictures. I told her that's what * is for. She didn't like that LOL.

[QUOTE=LamontJohn81;5343238][URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/1ce83b6d-8e27-4b6d-965a-00e5cb22a266[/URL]

Picture seller. Got mad that I didn't want to pay an allowance for pictures. I told her that's what * is for. She didn't like that LOL.[/QUOTE]The link you posted was to your inbox. Here's the correct link to her profile: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c440b63e-9347-40d8-9941-f6b36e35b525[/URL].

[QUOTE=LamontJohn81;5343238][URL]https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/1ce83b6d-8e27-4b6d-965a-00e5cb22a266[/URL]

Picture seller. Got mad that I didn't want to pay an allowance for pictures. I told her that's what * is for. She didn't like that LOL.[/QUOTE]This is the content I come to this site for. Found her in a search yesterday and had sent her a note. She hadn't responded yet but because of this report I proactively blocked her. Thanks for saving some of my time.

[QUOTE=TheOnlyOmni;5338753]She got some titties on her, I'm hitting her up.[/QUOTE]She wants big bucks to play with those big titties, when her and I talked she also didn't allow BB, and couldn't host, she told me what she wanted and I said that was too much for me and she wouldn't even go lower, I just said that was a bit more than I had spent in the past and her response was well I have no problem having guys spend money on me.

If you have at least $$ then go for it, if I had that type of money to throw around I probably would at least a time or two, but know girls like that the older they get the bigger they get and not in a good way.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5341301]Did you bb her? Cip?[/QUOTE]She told me 600 or no date.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5342301]Be clear that the odds are low, so if you do something immediate and grabby you're likely to be shown the door and banned shortly thereafter. Or worse. I generally find that being generous is the start, followed by some very minimal and careful boundary exploration. It may take a second visit. Read the signals, and go slowly and carefully.

Working UTR ladies isn't a skill everyone is capable of. It takes patience and finesse, which some aren't capable of. But it can deliver some amazing experiences if you're willing to invest.

P.S. The advice given in the other response is a) why I didn't reply with specific ladies here or via PM and b) a great way to get arrested for assault.[/QUOTE]Don Juan spotted! Seduction technique: Throw money at it and hope for the best.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5342570]Seriously, why would you want to try this?[/QUOTE]Because fishing is fun. Sometimes you catch, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you catch amazing.

I get it; you want to go to Pikes Market and have them throw you a dead fish.

As I said, it's not for everyone. If you demand instant gratification, lack patience, lack impulse control or funds. Then this isn't really right for you. I've never had a complaint and never *asked* for anything. It's always been offered.

As for "throwing money at it", yep. I still remember the incredibly stunning LMT that had been giving me amazing BBJCIM for a few months deciding that she wanted $500 to fuck. I handed over and got 3 hours of amazing sex. She's moved, but she still sends me occasional hot pics today.

So. Yeah, not for everyone.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5345424]Because fishing is fun. Sometimes you catch, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you catch amazing.

I get it; you want to go to Pikes Market and have them throw you a dead fish.

As I said, it's not for everyone. If you demand instant gratification, lack patience, lack impulse control or funds. Then this isn't really right for you. I've never had a complaint and never *asked* for anything. It's always been offered.

As for "throwing money at it", yep. I still remember the incredibly stunning LMT that had been giving me amazing BBJCIM for a few months deciding that she wanted $500 to fuck. I handed over and got 3 hours of amazing sex. She's moved, but she still sends me occasional hot pics today.

So. Yeah, not for everyone.[/QUOTE]Pics or it didn't happen.