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What you're thinking of is treating the infection once it takes hold. What I am referring to is using Doxy as a prophylactic. You take a 200 mg dose within 24 hours of having unprotected sex and if you were exposed to any of those bacterial STD's, it drastically reduces thr chance you will develop an infection. Think of it as prep except for bacterial infections. The CDC recently approved this kind of usage of doxy and if you do end up developing an infection, you can treat chlamydia and syphilis with doxycycline over the course of 7 or 14 days instead of getting a penicillin shot which can save you a trip to the clinic. I was given 50 of these pills to use for such things by the health clinic. I'm just putting this info out there since its a relatively new thing and a lot of people might not be aware that doxycycline can be used this way.

[QUOTE=OneMan;6864816]Castle1.

You're absolutely right, when dealing with streetwalkers STI's are always a big (huge?) risk. A condom is always indicated, no if and's or but's. I looked at the CDC website regarding treatment of chlamydia. (The CDC is the "go-to" authority for physicians for the treatment of infectious diseases, including STI's). The CDC does not recommend a 1-time dose of doxycycline. Rather it recommends a 7 day course of doxycycline which provides a 100% cure. An alternative treatment with azithromycin in a one-time dose is effective 74% of cases.

There are also several STI's caused by viruses which are not curable with antibiotics. The best we can do with some of them is to take medications for the rest of your life to keep some of them under control. These include HIV and Herpes and HSV and HPV.

The other reason to be extremely careful out there is the possibility of giving your spouse or GF or partner one of these STI's.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OneMan;6864816]Castle1.

You're absolutely right, when dealing with streetwalkers STI's are always a big (huge?) risk. A condom is always indicated, no if and's or but's. I looked at the CDC website regarding treatment of chlamydia. (The CDC is the "go-to" authority for physicians for the treatment of infectious diseases, including STI's). The CDC does not recommend a 1-time dose of doxycycline. Rather it recommends a 7 day course of doxycycline which provides a 100% cure. An alternative treatment with azithromycin in a one-time dose is effective 74% of cases.

There are also several STI's caused by viruses which are not curable with antibiotics. The best we can do with some of them is to take medications for the rest of your life to keep some of them under control. These include HIV and Herpes and HSV and HPV.

The other reason to be extremely careful out there is the possibility of giving your spouse or GF or partner one of these STI's.[/QUOTE]Doing something versus doing nothing. Here's the Doxy-prep from the CDC since you're not going to cite current research. If you have something different for the viewers, please post it. I know the article says it's not 100%. Antibiotics don't work on viruses. I'm not a doctor just posting article. Doxy-Prep is for men and not women. For the complicated people that means guys with balls.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/std/treatment/doxycycline-as-pep-toe.htm[/URL]

[QUOTE=Castle1;6865174]What you're thinking of is treating the infection once it takes hold. What I am referring to is using Doxy as a prophylactic. You take a 200 mg dose within 24 hours of having unprotected sex and if you were exposed to any of those bacterial STD's, it drastically reduces thr chance you will develop an infection. Think of it as prep except for bacterial infections. The CDC recently approved this kind of usage of doxy and if you do end up developing an infection, you can treat chlamydia and syphilis with doxycycline over the course of 7 or 14 days instead of getting a penicillin shot which can save you a trip to the clinic. I was given 50 of these pills to use for such things by the health clinic. I'm just putting this info out there since it's a relatively new thing and a lot of people might not be aware that doxycycline can be used this way.[/QUOTE]Here's the problem with what you are doing. Bacteria need a certain sustained level of antibiotics to kill them effectively. If the levels are not high enough, all you are doing is selecting for drug-resistant bacteria. By pre-treating and not taking subsequent doses of dox, all you are doing is keeping dox levels in your system insufficiently high to kill all the bacteria but high enough to select to drug-resistant bacteria. Also dox only works for some but not bacterial-borne STDs. Since you do not know what bacteria you might be infected by and each bacteria requires different antibiotics to kill it, pre-dosing is useless if the bacterial infection you get is not susceptible to dox. If you don't believe me, go ask your physician and he / she will confirm what I have said. PrEP for HIV works by a totally different mechanism, it prevents HIV fro entering your CD4+ cells. But it also has to have a minimum level in your circulation to be effective, ie. 7 days of dosing before unprotected sex. I would definitely recommend against pre-dosing with antibiotics.

[QUOTE=OldChineseGuy;6866175]Here's the problem with what you are doing. Bacteria need a certain sustained level of antibiotics to kill them effectively. If the levels are not high enough, all you are doing is selecting for drug-resistant bacteria. By pre-treating and not taking subsequent doses of dox, all you are doing is keeping dox levels in your system insufficiently high to kill all the bacteria but high enough to select to drug-resistant bacteria. Also dox only works for some but not bacterial-borne STDs. Since you do not know what bacteria you might be infected by and each bacteria requires different antibiotics to kill it, pre-dosing is useless if the bacterial infection you get is not susceptible to dox. If you don't believe me, go ask your physician and he / she will confirm what I have said. PrEP for HIV works by a totally different mechanism, it prevents HIV fro entering your CD4+ cells. But it also has to have a minimum level in your circulation to be effective, ie. 7 days of dosing before unprotected sex. I would definitely recommend against pre-dosing with antibiotics.[/QUOTE]Probably the best "pre-doxying" advice I've seen here. The whole thing about taking antibiotics so regularly or in such small amounts after the deed is that you might just be making it worse.

One may as well have gotten HIV if you end up with something like an incurable strain of the clap. It can and does happen, ALL THE TIME. Without violating HIPAA, I've seen maybe 50 or so cases with individuals with incurable strains of chlamydia specifically during my early clinical hour days. A few years back but it was primarily found in solicitors who would do this sort of strategy or take only half the prescribed dosage because it makes you feel like shit.

Even if you do take it regularly and it "kills" the baby strain before it takes hold, you're wiping out your good bacteria as well and it may make you susceptible to other diseases. It's just silly to do this and internet science that makes this so prevalent. You're genuinely better off doing a thorough salt water rinse 3 x day for anything oral related than doing the after-session doxy gig. The risk reward is better and at least you'll have a shot of killing something in the cradle rather than risking life-altering conditions.

[QUOTE=OrangeGoku;6896153]New to Seeking. Been reading reviews for a while. The girls in LA just charge so much I'm thinking about traveling or flying out to somehtin a little more economic. What states are the best and also how do I change the location on my SA.[/QUOTE]Edit profile to set your primary location. Then do some research by doing some searches which will center around your primary location.

As for what other states are the best I can't provide input. But most dudes will usually say CA, SoCal. Can't beat our sunny state, LAs melting pot of honeys in all ethnicities and in surrounding counties / cities. Most that come from other states to visit here. Say we got the best girls. You just got to pay the price sometimes if that's what you're looking for.

[QUOTE=Lexx1;6895881]But I'm paying and got into this world of P4 P because of not having to. Don't think I'm just going in raw blind. I ask for tests and I get tested as well.[/QUOTE]Of course I say this to the one guy in the sugar game who insists on exchanging std tests before he has bare sex with a baby. Ok fine. You're the exception. There's got to be one somewhere and you're it. Most guys who pay for sex don't, in fact, press pause long enough to discuss, order, pay for, and exchange tests. Kudos on your willpower and resolve.

Now, for the 99% of guys who seek bare back from girls they pay for sex, and say things like they can tell a girl is clean because she's new, she said so, she smells good, I looked closely when I was eating her out, and on and on. Those guys are one misjudged bare back away from a lifetime of viral suppression drugs and awkward conversations. And it's not worth it. Way better to play the long game here.

[QUOTE=Murrican;6896451]Of course I say this to the one guy in the sugar game who insists on exchanging std tests before he has bare sex with a baby. Ok fine. You're the exception. There's got to be one somewhere and you're it. Most guys who pay for sex don't, in fact, press pause long enough to discuss, order, pay for, and exchange tests. Kudos on your willpower and resolve.

Now, for the 99% of guys who seek bare back from girls they pay for sex, and say things like they can tell a girl is clean because she's new, she said so, she smells good, I looked closely when I was eating her out, and on and on. Those guys are one misjudged bare back away from a lifetime of viral suppression drugs and awkward conversations. And it's not worth it. Way better to play the long game here.[/QUOTE]LOL Murrican you're nuts dude. Remember never assume. You know what happens when we assume. You make an ASS out of U and ME. LOL Of course I get checked and ask. Don't want my dick hanging sideways like Cube says in Friday song. Want to keep fucking smoothly into old age. I might need the blue vitamins 20 years from now. But don't want anything else hindering me.

And I know other dudes that ask as well in this game. Pretty sure a bunch of dudes here in this thread do as well. Especially guys with SOs.

There are a wide range of STDs. Some are for a lifetime. Grasp that. Just like, say, getting an amputation is for a lifetime. That is what getting a retroviral infection is. Regardless of whether you have a SO now, this isn't going to make it easy to find partners in the future. You should check out the demographics of viral STDs that you can find on the CDC website. They tell you the girls in the US least likely to have an infection of those things you don't want to have.

IK we aren't supposed to discuss here whether people do or don't, or should or should not, use protection, for various acts. So I won't.

I have a bowl buddy who vets a girl carefully before bedding her. Tests both ways. However, he ends up in committed relationships w / them, monogamous even, and knows what he is doing. Years long relationships. Better yet, he gives them no sugar (but pays for dates like any self-respecting man would). IK of no one else who has his skills however. And a SO who is so lenient, and in the dark.

You never know what you will catch. I FCed two different married women who swore to me they hadn't cheated on their hubs, and hadn't had sex in years. One I didn't even have intercourse with. Both were asian. After our dates, I found myself w / GI distress. Turns out in both cases I had picked up a parasite. Had to go on flagyl. Now thankfully, the parasite isn't considered a STD, so this did not raise alarm bells. Whew! Still wasnt pleasant.

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If he caught it then there's probably few others caught it too and they have already spread it around. It's very likely quite a few girls has caught it too. Fortunately with this psa, there's something we can do to reduce the risk. I am going to get tested and going with cfs for a while.

[QUOTE=Vulcan1009;6903133]A few month back when everyone thought certain girl gave them STD, but that certain girl was clean and moved to SJ and got popular there, LOL.

If you caught STD, its going to be at MW, k-Twon too. Mongers fuck anything everywhere, if they know WLA girls, sure they know k-town and MW.

So yeah, it's the dark side's risk, for the girls I know, they take pills regularly so they can protect themselves, what kind of pills, no idea, all of them were from korea (lots pills), to prevent any type of STD like magic pills before hand. But as a monger going after another monger unknowingly catch it, it's too late after you notice.[/QUOTE]

I thought herpes can be transmitted whether it's CFS or BBFS so it makes no difference.

[QUOTE=AsianAssEater;6902883]Another std scare? Don't even trip about it man these pop up here every couple of months. As long as you're getting tested at least once a month you will be good. The only thing that sucks about dumping loads in different kgirls each week is that you're basically guaranteed to get herpes. If you have a partner it's always tough since you can't really bang your partner when you get a flare up and my girl always gets sus whenever I don't initiate but in reality it's just that I don't want to give them herpes LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BBNovice2018;6903356]I thought herpes can be transmitted whether it's CFS or BBFS so it makes no difference.[/QUOTE]I think he means that herpes is guaranteed no matter which way you go, and sucks. Herpes can be painful for some people, or asymptomatic in others. For me, it hurt the first year or so with outbreaks and now I'm asymptomatic. 65% to 90% of genital herpes is asymptomatic, but I'm sure that includes people like me (who now are, but weren't at the initial infection). If you have it, a bit of the virus hides dormant for months or years and then comes out of its reservoir for an outbreak. That's why it never goes away, but happens in an outbreak with some long breaks of nothing at all (your body completely destroys the virus again except for a bit that hides dormant).

Genital herpes is in 1 in 6 adults so while there is a small stigma it is something you'll probably get if you have very many partners. It transmits on genital skin contact, and does not require a sore to transmit though that increases the risk a lot.

Part of the problem is it can be suspicious if you are in a very long relationship and transmit it to your partner years after being "monogamous". If you simply got it earlier in life, didn't know, and transmitted it to a new partner, you can have an adult conversation explaining that and be truthful. It gets tricky if you know you have herpes and now you have a new partner. I suppose many guys play dumb, but some people say it is much better to be upfront and honest if this is a serious relationship you are entering.

Mentally, the worst scenario is actually that you do not already have genital herpes but plan to start fucking 50 women over 10 years (and just don't know it yet). That was me 10 years ago. Then you never know when the day will come that you get it, then your partner whether current or future. There is a stress element to thinking about it happening, but then it happens. I actually stopped worrying about getting herpes, once I already had it! Life is funny in that way.

Again, people panic and suffer when they first get herpes because you don't know how it will turn out. You pray even if you aren't religious. For those who have genital herpes and their partner has not yet gotten it or noticed, it is just another Sword of Damocles in the life of "married and mongering".

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It can be stressful to live knowing you could get caught any day. In the most extreme case, the most elegant solution is not have sex with your partner if you bb. Maybe get treated if you finally decide to go back. But not an option for everyone. It is hard but you should ideally be at peace with mongering or have a realistic compromise about the risks you'll take, what your limits are, and how you'll stay safe.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6903428]I think he means that herpes is guaranteed no matter which way you go, and sucks. Herpes can be painful for some people, or asymptomatic in others. For me, it hurt the first year or so with outbreaks and now I'm asymptomatic. 65% to 90% of genital herpes is asymptomatic, but I'm sure that includes people like me (who now are, but weren't at the initial infection). If you have it, a bit of the virus hides dormant for months or years and then comes out of its reservoir for an outbreak. That's why it never goes away, but happens in an outbreak with some long breaks of nothing at all (your body completely destroys the virus again except for a bit that hides dormant).

Genital herpes is in 1 in 6 adults so while there is a small stigma it is something you'll probably get if you have very many partners. It transmits on genital skin contact, and does not require a sore to transmit though that increases the risk a lot.

Part of the problem is it can be suspicious if you are in a very long relationship and transmit it to your partner years after being "monogamous". If you simply got it earlier in life, didn't know, and transmitted it to a new partner, you can have an adult conversation explaining that and be truthful. It gets tricky if you know you have herpes and now you have a new partner. I suppose many guys play dumb, but some people say it is much better to be upfront and honest if this is a serious relationship you are entering..[/QUOTE]Yeah I don't know how long I've had it for. Since I creampie kgirls every week I get tested once a month and I never came back positive for herpes. It's such an annoying std because it won't pop up until one day I was itchy af and noticed red dots all over my head and figured it was herpes and it was. Agree what you said I'm pretty paranoid if I gave it to gf don't really want to ruin what I got at home but I'm addicted to dropping loads in different holes. And yes most mongers prob have it cfs or bb guys doesn't matter.

Yes and it's a fair point. I take prep which lowers the rate of hiv infection by 99 percent. And I have hep a and b vaccines. But yes other stds concern me. I don't make a habit of it. And if I do it I go get a free std test with some regularity. I'm pretty meticulous about my health and I know it's a risk, but yes sometimes I am guilty of thinking with little head.

[QUOTE=SexInSex77;6910333]Another BBFS, are you not concerned about STD or HIV, mate?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SexInSex77;6910333]Another BBFS, are you not concerned about STD or HIV, mate?[/QUOTE]It's all about risk management.

If you take prep and don't do anal sex or sex with menstruating women then it is virtually impossible to get HIV.

Hep C is about a 1 in 190000 transmission rate vaginally with a non-menstrating woman.

HPV and Herpes can be spread even if the man wears a condom. They also do not show up on a test easily unless you are having an outbreak. Most people do not show symptoms or if they do it is only once a year. HPV you can get a vaccine from some of the more cancerous strands.

If herpes is something you are worried about then you should quit the hobby and become a celibate priest because it's something all people who have sex are at risk of.

The most common ones you have a worry about are chlamydia, gonorrhea, syphilis. These ones only sometimes present symptoms infection rate for chlamydia and gonorrhea are like 1/3 for unprotected vaginal sex. Something like 1/10 for the oral. Even with condoms there is a very small chance. These infections can get treated with antibiotics. There is an antibiotic prep for it but I wouldn't recommend it as you could just make the infection antibiotic resistant.

The best way to protect yourself from these infections is to use the sex industry standard and test yourself monthly for stds and get treated when they appear. If you go to an appointment knowing you have a clean test and plan to get tested after the appointment I see no problem in going for BBFS. Just check to make sure she has no sores or discharge or stinky down there first.

Now if you go picking up and barebacking street walkers and then escorts and civies and not getting tested. Then you have a problem with your risk management. Those people can go to hell and need to correct themselves.