Rules (or tips or pointers) for seeing an escort
While reading about the quest of some of my fellow posters to come up with a list of rules or tips for meeting escorts, I remembered reading this post a few years ago when I first started visiting ladies. I found it quite helpful. While not perfect, it has some good advice for those, like me at the time, who had never seen an escort before.
I thought it might be good to bring it to the top since the subject is timely right now.
In it, Harpo2u is responding to a poster, Sproket, who had been ripped off by an escort.
[QUOTE=Harpo2u; 594047]Sorry to hear about that Sproket. There were several red flags before you gave her the money. Also were you in the motel room when you met her or someplace near waiting? Reason I ask is because this "Layna" chick has been ripping off guys left and right. Lets put her out of business.
Thanks for being open about your experience and I do know how it feels to to ripped off like that. So I want to share and give you my pointers for hooking up with CL girls or any Service Providers you meet on the Net.
I've made connections with lots of Servicer Providers long before we had the internet and CraigsList. This was back in the days of Ads in newspapers and yellow-pages before I had gotten into the Net. I've had many successful hookups but had a few bad ones as well. Here's what I basically do to find a good escort service.
When meeting an "escort girl" from CL or web site or even an Ad from the backpages you call or email her you're interested in her services.
Talking on the phone is best and when you do tell her you are interested and like to know more about her service. Ask questions about massages and see if you can get a conversation going. You can get a feel if you want to meet this person. She can be real friendly and talkative or she might be short and rude. I've found this method did help in my decisions.
Very important: NEVER USE THE WORDS "SEX FOR MONEY" either on the phone or in emails.
The difference between escorts and cops is that an escort will avoid any conversation that the transaction is sex for money. A cop will try to get you to say that you are having sex for money. If the escort is using the words "sex for money" she is either very stupid, or she's a cop. If she is avoiding the words "sex for money" or any other similar agreements then she's probably OK.
You might want to call several escort services or independents to get familiar with what is being offered. Understand, though, that they might not be able to fully describe over the phone or in the emails what they do because they don't want to get busted by the law. In other words, if they say they offer "full female companionship," or a "girl friend experience (GFE)" you're supposed to be sharp enough to figure out that you're going to get laid.
On the phone they won't likely give you a price list of what you get for what money, but you can ask questions like, If I have $200 on me, do you think that would cover everything or do I need to pay extra for tip? This will give you a ballpark idea of what you'll be paying. Make sure that there are no extra charges or what she ask for in her ads are just the cost of showing up. Very important to ask as many questions. If she doesn't like all these questions, tell her "thanks for your time but I don't want to be rip off and I'll find someone else". Be polite and gentlemanly when talking and you'll get better results when asking questions and she'll be better about you. Remember she doesn't want to get busted herself.
One common misconception about being busted is that you don't actually have to have sex for money to get busted. All you have to do is to agree to have sex for money. So either of you can get busted even if no sex or money changes hands. They do need to get it on tape though. So never say those words and she should never say those words.
She needs to know you're not a cop or a violent weirdo or someone who's going to be trouble. She also needs to let you know that she's expecting you to pay up front, but she can't ask you to give her money for sex, because that would be prostitution, and that's not what she does.
If you go to her place or to motel where she's at, there should be no reason she doesn't have a room all set up and ready to meet you. If that's not the case, walk away and don't say anything. Some ladies ask you to call from the car when you are outside, and others are happy to tell you in advance where you are coming. When you get to the door, knock on it. Don't stand around outside and be nervous. DO NOT cause attention. Look as if you belong there.
All legit service providers will want references and they do this in different ways so that you're not a cop or weirdo. You will have to refer to her site to know what she is looking for. This is a good sign that she's not LE herself.
Remember there are plenty of sites to check out the girls to see if she's a good provider or a rip off. Like another site is one of them.
Also you can use this site to check the phone or cell number to see if it's a cop line. You wouldn't believe the stings would use a number listed to some police stations. Here's the site to check numbers:
[url]http://www.anywho.com/qry/wp_rl[/url]
Once you are in and both know you're not LE is the money exchange.
When she opens the door, come in. Let her shut the door and then you can greet one another. Most of the ladies I know will lead from this point. Lay the envelope with the money on a table. Allow her to see it but do not make a comment about it. * Do not try to talk about services and what she is going to do for you. Just let the time you are together happen naturally. Again NEVER USE THE WORDS "SEX FOR MONEY". It's a legal thing: You're not really giving her the money for sex.
But. She should not get the money and then need to leave the room to get something. One thing that can happen is that she gets paid. Then says she forgot the condoms in her car. And then drives away. This can happen to you and there's not a lot you can do about it. But you should ask her to leave the money if she needs to go out of the room. This is a bad sign if she does.
However, many women don't buy the best condoms, so if you have a brand you like, buy your own and offer to use your condoms. It will save her from having to use one of hers. It will also avoid an awkward delay if she forgets to bring one and would otherwise have to leave and run to the store to get one. I always keep a tube of KY Jelly when I meet an escort. Lubrication is good. Although the escort is supposed to bring these supplies it's a good idea that you have your own. I've had several escorts show up and forget to bring things so don't count on them having their act together.
Once everything is fine, she will ask you if you want to "get comfortable." This means "are you ready to have sex?" Your job now is to lead her to the bedroom and get naked. To protect herself legally, she will wait until the client is naked before she undresses. Then have a good time. If you had a good time, some guys leave a tip. That is your choice! It is a good way to show her you were happy with her services, and she will most likely remember you with a*SMILE the next time!
NOW about this Layna Rip off chick. Here is her number 513-546-6238.
In the past, some of us guys had a buddy that would watch the motel for us while inside with the provider. Then we would switch and do the same for the other guy. It's a good system and you have to trust each other and it works great.
Long post but I've cut it down as short as I could with the important points. In my opinion, Craigslist girls are a real roll the dice and better to find an independent with some good references. Right now anything under 2. 00 is not GFE and lousy service or worst a rip off scam. Do your research with all the info on the web there's no reason to find a great provider if you want to spend some serious money.
Last, here are Layna's pictures. I hope you guys call and tell her she is busted and post reviews at CL on her. Let all the CL girls know we don't tolerate rip offs and cash & dash.
Harpo2U[/QUOTE]
SW vs Escort and the Passion of the BJ
BJ's are like snowflakes, no two are the same. That's the beauty of them! You can't categorize where to find the better ones either. A girl either take pride in the ART or doesn't. If you're really good, you can tell it in their eyes or sniff it out with some quick conversation. It's a particular passion they must possess. Although a lot of times a potentially disappointing chick can turn out to be a sleeper.
Now when it comes to SW's (especially FS), cleanliness and smell is a must for myself. A lot of the all-day / everyday common OTR SW's tend to skimp in that category. That's why you're always looking for the dimes. That's the fun in it. Yeah, you have to have some time on your hands. If you don't, then that can add to the fun also.
The thrill of the hunt is nothing short of an extreme sport. As you drive down the streets passing women as their waving and giving you the eye. Street after street, too skinny. Too fat. Is that a MAN ugh. That one has some sores gross. She's decent. Is she working. She's HOT. Let me circle the block. She's still there. I've got to pull over (heart racing). Hope she comes over. Next thing you know she's at you're passenger window and you're asking her if she needs a ride. After replying yes, she hops in and smells like J-lo perfume and off you go onto the second part of your adventure. Depending on where you go from there, that makes or breaks the entire experience. Go with what makes you comfortable, but exciting and arousing.
Calling an escort is a lot more convenient and quicker, but expensive and riskier (LE-wise). If someone from this board gets arrested in an escort sting, do you think they'll be back on posting about it when their family knows? I'm not so sure about that. A lot of times they are disappointing and extremely expensive trying to find good new ones. They ALL look good in their ads, but most of the time it's all smoke and mirrors. Every single one of those pictures has been professionally photographed and "dolled" up. They pick the best angled pictures to show you, and that's usually after Photoshopping them. Also, why don't you try calling up 10 escorts to come to your house and choosing the best looking one for your taste. Imagine that, I bet that would end brilliantly.
In retrospect of this post, I think a handful of SW dimes is worth more than a few overpriced escorts who are mediocre in the BJ department, at best.
Excellent post. Great explaination. !
As brief as I can be, this is an excellent post about "Street vs Escort" action. I have to agree with the the vast part of it. If you want to do street action you can read this and kind of understand why you choose the street over escorts. And if you like escorts and want to do street action this is a read first, along with the 22 rules of the streets.
Hey are there any 22 rules for Escorts to go by. Hummm! Are there any posted like the Street rules. Maybe we need to make some up.
As for BJ's it is about those with Skillz and those that think they have skillz, or no skillz at all.
I have had some real ringers, and they give it with passion & skillz. Some are good at it, but you only get a good BJ if they like you. Other think they have good BJ skillz, but they just have not heard the truth, or have heard it and refuse to believe it. But really they know.
FS is kinda like snowflakes, becoz I want to hit it differently everytime. So thus I do!
So basically make every situation something different, and wild.
[QUOTE=Getnati; 1118972]BJ's are like snowflakes, no two are the same. That's the beauty of them! You can't categorize where to find the better ones either. A girl either take pride in the ART or doesn't. If you're really good, you can tell it in their eyes or sniff it out with some quick conversation. It's a particular passion they must possess. Although a lot of times a potentially disappointing chick can turn out to be a sleeper.
Now when it comes to SW's (especially FS) , cleanliness and smell is a must for myself. A lot of the all-day / everyday common OTR SW's tend to skimp in that category. That's why you're always looking for the dimes. That's the fun in it. Yeah, you have to have some time on your hands. If you don't, then that can add to the fun also.
The thrill of the hunt is nothing short of an extreme sport. As you drive down the streets passing women as their waving and giving you the eye. Street after street, too skinny. Too fat. Is that a MAN ugh. That one has some sores gross. She's decent. Is she working. She's HOT. Let me circle the block. She's still there. I've got to pull over (heart racing). Hope she comes over. Next thing you know she's at you're passenger window and you're asking her if she needs a ride. After replying yes, she hops in and smells like J-lo perfume and off you go onto the second part of your adventure. Depending on where you go from there, that makes or breaks the entire experience. Go with what makes you comfortable, but exciting and arousing.
Calling an escort is a lot more convenient and quicker, but expensive and riskier (LE-wise). If someone from this board gets arrested in an escort sting, do you think they'll be back on posting about it when their family knows? I'm not so sure about that. A lot of times they are disappointing and extremely expensive trying to find good new ones. They ALL look good in their ads, but most of the time it's all smoke and mirrors. Every single one of those pictures has been professionally photographed and "dolled" up. They pick the best angled pictures to show you, and that's usually after Photoshopping them. Also, why don't you try calling up 10 escorts to come to your house and choosing the best looking one for your taste. Imagine that, I bet that would end brilliantly.
In retrospect of this post, I think a handful of SW dimes is worth more than a few overpriced escorts who are mediocre in the BJ department, at best. [/QUOTE]
A Dream in the Land of the "Free"
Some world travelers have experienced such service. It would be a fine thing to decriminalize prostitution, make sure the women who work in the business are doing so freely, and have regular testing and access to health care.
The results? Tax revenue. Good treatment for hard working ladies. Drug rehab, etc. For those who need it. Less street crime. Etc. And it would put the hobby out of sight for those who don't like it. All better things-but imagine the politician who would stick up for it!
Meanwhile, see you in Germany.
Crazykev.
[QUOTE=Cincyfunguy; 1119699]Alternatively, imagine walking into a lovely house where you are greeted by a charming hostess who escorts you to a private sitting area, offers you a drink and spends a few minutes with you asking your preferences, and giving you advice on the ladies and options available (menu fully disclosed). You explain what you like and before you know it, a dozen or more of the most beautiful women in the world (yes, right off the magazine covers) , enter one at a time, introducing themselves, expressing their personalities, telling you a bit about themselves, their likes and dislikes, and allowing you to admire their beauty before making your choice. They are all immaculately groomed, clean, fresh and beautiful beyond imagination, and tested monthly for STD's.
Your decision is tough, but you ultimately decide who is most likely a good match and off you go into any one of a number of private rooms which are incredibly clean, finely decorated and include a bathing area, shower and perhaps even a Jacuzzi tub along with all the amenities to freshen up, before and after. 5-star quality all the way.
And all for a very affordable price, and in many cases with a money back guarantee. Not to mention, the ladies who chose to work there are provided with transportation and personal security for their safety, fitness facilities, tanning beds and all the other amenities necessary to take care of themselves and enjoy their work.
The focus is quality, safety and customer service.
Just imagine. A place which is equally great for the ladies as for their gentlemen visitors, safe, clean and discrete.
Sound like a dream? Well, unfortunately in THIS Country it IS! But, what lurks in many countries beyond our borders is a dream come true.
Just sayin. .
CFG. [/QUOTE]
Is Jackson Ghosting Reports?
I posted a report and it never showed up but I can see it under my profile posts. I'm wondering if Jackson is ghosting reports like CL does? Does he still have contact info on the website, I couldn't find it.
