Bareback Providers

[QUOTE=HotWiredJunk;3555318]SA seems way too involved and complicated for what it's worth. Just registering on the site is a major PITA. TNA isn't much better, but at least it's more straight forward and they don't require as much info. Apparently some posters here have had luck with SA, but to me it seems like a weird sort of hybrid between dating and escorting.[/QUOTE]I did one month of premium and my inbox is exploding. I can't keep up with the contacts. Two dates for this week already and putting a few off. It's feels like shooting fish in a barrel. Most are hookers.

[QUOTE=HotWiredJunk;3555318]SA seems way too involved and complicated for what it's worth. Just registering on the site is a major PITA. TNA isn't much better, but at least it's more straight forward and they don't require as much info. Apparently some posters here have had luck with SA, but to me it seems like a weird sort of hybrid between dating and escorting.[/QUOTE]I get that. TNA is just straight forward guarantee nut. You know what you are getting from previous reviews and straight pay for play. SA, once cultivated, which does take a bit of back and forth. Very true, is a gold mine. Ladies on there are 10 x better looking than a majority of the TNA girls, the better looking TNA girls knows it and charges a hefty premium in the 300 to 400 range. At that range, BB is almost a sure thing. However, with the amount of men they see BBing, your risk factor goes up significantly. Most SA girls are ultra low volume, newbies, need shopping money, etc. So lower risk, at least how I justify it in my mind. We're all playing in a minefield, I just choose to play in one with much fewer mines planted.

Trust me, I've tried all the listed BB in this forum from TNA and other sources and while some are fun, most are just plain pump and dump with ugly women. Once you've experience the excitement and ease of SA, providers on TNA just looks ugly and worn out. I'm a shallow SOB and good looking women just turns me on and the ability to fuck your neighborhood housewife is hot. I still turn to TNA once in a while as I have a good looking provider a few blocks a way from me (she doesn't know it) I turn to if I'm lazy and want a quickie without traveling too far. 100 for 30 min of anything.

Stay safe my fellow pooners.

[QUOTE=DoggieBellevue;3555518]Trust me, I've tried all the listed BB in this forum from TNA and other sources and while some are fun, most are just plain pump and dump with ugly women. Once you've experience the excitement and ease of SA, providers on TNA just looks ugly and worn out. I'm a shallow SOB and good looking women just turns me on and the ability to fuck your neighborhood housewife is hot. I still turn to TNA once in a while as I have a good looking provider a few blocks a way from me (she doesn't know it) I turn to if I'm lazy and want a quickie without traveling too far. 100 for 30 min of anything.[/QUOTE]I'm not shallow, so am happy with the ones that are average looking or slightly below. If she's flat out gross that's one thing; even I have some standards, but my junk can't see anything and that's what I'm trying to satisfy.

If I may inquire, who's the provider that charges 100 roses for 30 min of anything? That sounds like someone mentioned fairly recently, but I don't want to make any assumptions.

[QUOTE=DoggieBellevue;3555518]I get that. TNA is just straight forward guarantee nut. You know what you are getting from previous reviews and straight pay for play. SA, once cultivated, which does take a bit of back and forth. Very true, is a gold mine. Ladies on there are 10 x better looking than a majority of the TNA girls, the better looking TNA girls knows it and charges a hefty premium in the 300 to 400 range. At that range, BB is almost a sure thing. However, with the amount of men they see BBing, your risk factor goes up significantly. Most SA girls are ultra low volume, newbies, need shopping money, etc. So lower risk, at least how I justify it in my mind. We're all playing in a minefield, I just choose to play in one with much fewer mines planted.

Trust me, I've tried all the listed BB in this forum from TNA and other sources and while some are fun, most are just plain pump and dump with ugly women. Once you've experience the excitement and ease of SA, providers on TNA just looks ugly and worn out. I'm a shallow SOB and good looking women just turns me on and the ability to fuck your neighborhood housewife is hot. I still turn to TNA once in a while as I have a good looking provider a few blocks a way from me (she doesn't know it) I turn to if I'm lazy and want a quickie without traveling too far. 100 for 30 min of anything.

Stay safe my fellow pooners.[/QUOTE]What membership do you usually get in SA? Does it matter at all? Also how would they come in contact with you? I can't imagine they dm you asking if you want BBFS.

[QUOTE=DoggieBellevue;3554694]You have to be premium to message them back. Lucky you in the south end. Lowest rates around. Would not go over 250 for that area. Most will be about 200 or less depending on how good you are at negotiating. Had some fantastic times down south, lonely women who has nothing to do and no where to go.

Note: watch out for the 18 yos who are still in school. Check IDs for age as you don't want to get into serious trouble, nothing to joke at.

Go for the single moms. Here's are examples of messages I get daily after they read my profile:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b67b0c75-a26b-ab3a-cc72-52e5f271daed[/URL] straight to the point of "per visit gift".

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e1fa6485-39dc-4e12-bc50-ce8e6a08453c[/URL] need car payment, "open for almost anything".

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/a77bac1e-791d-4860-bbea-337d1bba5c33[/URL] Hookup (: whatever will get me some money.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/6d17cbd3-5a17-47fa-a74d-059b9fdb9b1c[/URL] Go-Getter 4 that MONEY!/ Anything you want ME to BE.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/b33a76e0-7105-4ac0-832a-970667f9a0aa[/URL] high possibility.

These are some guarantee good to go, BB most likely if you play your cards right. My gift to you all.[/QUOTE]You're 100% correct about the single moms and also the locations a bit out of town. All you listed can be had easily at 250. Usually without cover. And those are at what I'd consider the lower end of the spectrum too. If you have a bit of game, are decent looking and behaved, are willing to go up to 400. Well that gets you genuine 18-22 yo real college students that look and act amazing. It can take some time weeding through and a meet and greet, but they have zero in common with a TNA provider. I really love a few of the women on TNA, but the actual experience has little to compare with a good SA connection.

[QUOTE=HotWiredJunk;3555318]SA seems way too involved and complicated for what it's worth. Just registering on the site is a major PITA. TNA isn't much better, but at least it's more straight forward and they don't require as much info. Apparently some posters here have had luck with SA, but to me it seems like a weird sort of hybrid between dating and escorting.[/QUOTE]For me, I actually like to get to know the person that I'm screwing a little bit. Not like relationship knowing. It's just that meeting someone, having them take off their clothes, screwing them, then getting dressed and leaving. Is definitely not worth $200 (or even $100) to me. I remember being at a brothel in Ecuador. It was a bar in a very large, circular room about the size of a gymnasium. There were 50 rooms along the perimeter each one about 10 by 12. Each room had a bed in it and when the prostitute was free, she would stand in the doorway until a guy decided to walk into her room. Once inside you negotiated a price ($10 for me) she handed you a condom and you went at it. At $10/ pop with $1 beers in the bar, I could have lived there, but it was a huge turn off for me. The women were definitely hot and I picked one of the hottest ones and about 2 minutes into it, I was just like. I can't do this. I then went back to the local bar where prostitutes hung out and found one, bought her drinks while she pretended to like me for more than the money I was getting ready to pay her and several hours later took her back to my room. It was much more fulfilling. This is probably why I hang out at local bars that are known for having working or girls. So, SA is something that I would enjoy. But at $79/ month, it ain't going to happen anytime soon. I would try it for a month, but usually you have to do back flips to get those sites to cancel once they have your card.

[QUOTE=DoggieBellevue;3553334]It's all how you write your profile. Basically spell out exactly what you are looking for but watch the wording as SA will block it. Basically list that you will "allowance" per meet. Say they will have to do everything you want, there are no no's. If THEY agree, to contact you back, if not, don't bother. This will weed out 80% of them.

Good luck out there.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the excellent advice. My Rick's Sugar Baby is pissing me off, so looking for competition to set her straight. SA wouldn't let me "list that you will "allowance" per meet" They said that was prostitution.

Do you find the baristas listed on SA are real? On other Sugar sites they usually were fake.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3555777] - But at $79/ month, it ain't going to happen anytime soon. I would try it for a month, but usually you have to do back flips to get those sites to cancel once they have your card.[/QUOTE]If you pay with a prepaid credit card. Say $100 total on the card. You won't have any trouble getting them to cancel your subscription. In fact, it'll happen automatically if you just choose to walk away.

Call me Dick.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3555777]But at $79/ month, it ain't going to happen anytime soon. I would try it for a month, but usually you have to do back flips to get those sites to cancel once they have your card.[/QUOTE]SA is one of the few online dating sites that doesn't auto-renew.

[QUOTE=McBigLuong;3555673]What membership do you usually get in SA? Does it matter at all? Also how would they come in contact with you? I can't imagine they dm you asking if you want BBFS.[/QUOTE]Just standard $79 membership. As mentioned before, just shotgun tag a bunch of girls within your parameters (age range, race, weight, etc) in your search. Write a straight forward pay for play description (not really write the words pay for play as it will be rejected by SA). Then wait for a tidal wave of messages come in. If you write your profile description correctly, those message will be from those willing to pay for play. Go through each of those to make sure, then message back and you are good to go.

[QUOTE=Joseph1955;3555682]You're 100% correct about the single moms and also the locations a bit out of town. All you listed can be had easily at 250. Usually without cover. And those are at what I'd consider the lower end of the spectrum too. If you have a bit of game, are decent looking and behaved, are willing to go up to 400. Well that gets you genuine 18-22 yo real college students that look and act amazing. It can take some time weeding through and a meet and greet, but they have zero in common with a TNA provider. I really love a few of the women on TNA, but the actual experience has little to compare with a good SA connection.[/QUOTE]I have seen 18-22 yo college girls and you really have to negotiate down from their high points. I never start high to low, more negotiating per hours will often confused them. I would say 150/ hr and if we are together 3, you be at 450. Of course I'll be done in 1 or 2 so it only maxes out at $300 often just $150 but I'll upgrade it to two and they're happy. You're right, SA and TNA girls are a world apart.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;3555777]For me, I actually like to get to know the person that I'm screwing a little bit. Not like relationship knowing. It's just that meeting someone, having them take off their clothes, screwing them, then getting dressed and leaving......[/QUOTE]Yes, that's why I have my 2 go to girls. Knowing someone definitely keeps it real.

[QUOTE=Toomgis;3555793]Thanks for the excellent advice. My Rick's Sugar Baby is pissing me off, so looking for competition to set her straight. SA wouldn't let me "list that you will "allowance" per meet" They said that was prostitution.
Do you find the baristas listed on SA are real? On other Sugar sites they usually were fake.[/QUOTE]There are a lot of baristas on SA. They are real though I generally skip those and strippers. They demand a high premium as they are so used to getting tips or dances for the little amount of work. That's the golden pussy syndrome. Pass.

[QUOTE=FatRichard;3555828]If you pay with a prepaid credit card. Say $100 total on the card. You won't have any trouble getting them to cancel your subscription. In fact, it'll happen automatically if you just choose to walk away.
Call me Dick.[/QUOTE]If you are worried about renew, which is not an issue with SA. Use [URL]privacy.com[/URL] which issues virtual credit cards to you. Only complaint I have with [URL]privacy.com[/URL] is that you need to supply THEM with your bank log in. I opened a new account just to use privacy so they don't touch my big money account.

Here another note on SA and admin, so sorry I'm rambling on but I feel any info is good info for the community.

There are 3 types on SA I like to categorize.

1 - straight pay for play. Great for one or more time fun.

2 - those that are bored and want something to do. These are the ones you take out to dinner, movie, park, and just generally be nice and fun to be around. They don't necessary ask for money, just dinner and dessert. Just something to get rid of their loneliness. At the end of the date, you take them home and fuck them.

3 - those looking for "gifts" as they are not "prostitute" taking money. They don't want to admit it or think they are. Make sure you fuck them first before shopping, otherwise they will not put out later. Take them to the mall, Victoria secrets is a favorite, MAC / Sephora makeup, forever 21, etc. Then lunch or dinner. This is a combo of type 1 and 2. Lots of the younger girls falls into this area. You may be ahead or behind money wise on this as shopping cost will vary so have a budget.

I then to like type 1 and 2. Type 1, straight forward. Type 2, nice to just date sometime you know. Type 3 is a time killer and I don't enjoy shopping at the malls.

Attached is a screen shot of messages I got after only been offline SA for 5 hours, you start by reading those that "Favorite" you and work back to the messages to find more to add to your list.

Good luck and play safe.

Mandy, We negotiated a price including BBFS, Greek w / CIA and pic's. Remember we her everything is negotiable. 206-XXX-9624

[QUOTE=DoggieBellevue;3553837]Don't bother. Just tag them all within your parameters. Let them read YOUR profile on what YOU want. If they message you, they know what they are getting into. Weeds out those they don't want to comply and its stops everyone from wasting each others time. Negotiate in messaging as some have high expectations and will whittle down to bare minimum when no one answers their ad. Stand your ground as there are some many to choose from, just say no if its too high.

Its a buyers market. I have 16 on my favorite list spread out all over Washington. If I feel like a different flavor from my standard go to, just message one of the 16 and work my list down to see whose available. Can be simple as a blow and go to a full blown weekend stay. They all understand the way this works so any of them saying they are looking for one good man, blah blah blah, its all BS.

Forget TNA, there maybe 100 Seattle area providers on there getting 90% of the business, while there are 2000+ viable on SA. You aim for 0. 5% from the SA pool of ladies, you are golden.

Being a gentleman, don't be a jerk. Good luck.[/QUOTE]Maybe I'm doing this wrong but when I search on SA I do a 50 mile radius and select female as my only filter and I only see a page and a half of adds and 95% of those the women haven't logged on in over a month in in some cases more than 10 months.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;3556050]Maybe I'm doing this wrong but when I search on SA I do a 50 mile radius and select female as my only filter and I only see a page and a half of adds and 95% of those the women haven't logged on in over a month in in some cases more than 10 months.[/QUOTE]You can sort by "Recently Active," and that'll get to the women that are online now.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;3556050]Maybe I'm doing this wrong but when I search on SA I do a 50 mile radius and select female as my only filter and I only see a page and a half of adds and 95% of those the women haven't logged on in over a month in in some cases more than 10 months.[/QUOTE]I suspect all these sites are the same, they probably let you only see a taste until you buy the premium. I took a chance and paid for one month. Once I did that and loaded a photo the flood gates just opened. On the SA the woman search you out, tna and BP you have to chase them down.

I'm not trying to shill the premium but in this case this site does work as DoggieBellevue has described. I updated my profile to be very specific that I only provide a per visit allowance. I start negotiating at 200 and go from there. Loaded a pic that is close to how I look but not me, if the gals can do it so can I. My plan is to make as many connections as I can in this premium month as I can then probably not reup if I find a few good ones to keep me busy.

Met this one today:

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/586e4dcb-57d0-4ed2-a391-fa72e03d6fb6[/URL]

She does allow bbfscip but I won't repeat. Met at tubs but she had an excuse for everything (no BBBJ, daty or doggie) except mish and her on top (not even close to CG); very inflexible making vagina entry difficult and difficult to stay in. She's a pro but a really bad one. I went $$. 5 but should have offered $. 5.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;3556050]Maybe I'm doing this wrong but when I search on SA I do a 50 mile radius and select female as my only filter and I only see a page and a half of adds and 95% of those the women haven't logged on in over a month in in some cases more than 10 months.[/QUOTE]You are somehow doing it wrong. See attached. With search "photos" ,"age 18-40", and "50 miles" radius as option, I get 8308 users from Bellevue.

Then sort by "active" and the first 100 is online, next 100 is about 2 hours since online.