Hi everyone. Is Lilly's $280 even if you don't want FS? I'm not sure if I'm interested in that, but I don't want to pay that much for a HE or CBJ. Thanks in advance!
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Hi everyone. Is Lilly's $280 even if you don't want FS? I'm not sure if I'm interested in that, but I don't want to pay that much for a HE or CBJ. Thanks in advance!
[QUOTE=BubblesInAsia;5449266]I'm young, fat, and ugly, and I'm just being honest. Some providers avoid me because I'm in my 20's and I look bad for my age. Yes I spent too much I know, but I don't get female attention often from a pretty girl. Sure I have to pay for it. I will try to negotiate better wherever I end up next, it's just hard when you walk in and the ladies look you up and down and you can tell they are thinking "I hope I don't have to help him."[/QUOTE]If you're truly 'young, fat and ugly' as you say, then you need calm, focused strategy more than anything. Relax, RTFF to see how other mongers excel, then copy their methods. If you get nervous, you can do what I used to do when I was younger: Rehearse. If already at a parlor, sit in your vehicle, think carefully about what you're going to do, talk to yourself (if necessary), take a deep breath, then do it.
The more you plan and practice anything, the better you'll get. I'm pretty good at what I do now in all aspects of life, but it didn't start out that way.
Focus, plan, strategize. Rinse and repeat. Hope other, seasoned mongers will offer their advice too.
OK fam,
I want to preface this with I don't necessarily plan on investing more time and money into these places I listed as I have others that I am still enjoying. Pricing is high for most of these and it will be up to you for negotiation after working the topic up. All of them are responsive to the following phrase "I really can't just orgasm from a HE it is boring, I'll tip very well if you (insert action)" Most will ask how much and if it is in the right range go for it. Now that I have moved on I am sharing the wealth so to speak. As always YMMV.
Key Terms for this -.
A) Stripper Style. B2 B stripper slide.
B) False Greek. Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind.
C) AF. Anal Freak (when they want you to put a digit up them while they are giving HE).
D) Normal. Normal is UTC top and pants down but Over the Underwear.
1. Care Massage (alpharetta) - Mia (skinny petite 40+) - if she likes you she will strip and ride you stripper style until you both finish -- that being said she is very sensative so you need to get her worked up for that to happen and never ask. If you ask the answer is no and probably not even a HE later (I told a buddy and that happened to him).
2. Luna (Norcross) - Nana. Stripper style, Normal, DATY, and 1 x False Greek.
3. Excellence. Grace - False Greek, AF, Normal.
4. Kaina. Abbey - False Greek *, Normal *=she will not strip completely but will let you enjoy those thighs.
5. Angel Massage. Mikki Stripper Style, False Greek, Normal.
So you can know what the limits I have hit with them are on a regular basis. I also want to note that as personal relationships develop they go for more than listed but I did not list any of the providers who did more for their own safety / concerns. These are not normal activities and should be developed on your own charisma.
[QUOTE=Zinzrah;5449722]Bro these girls care about money. That's it. Money. They could care less what you look like.[/QUOTE]More importantly, how much less could they care? Therein, lies the rub—or lack thereof (if you're picking up what I'm laying down).
[QUOTE=BubblesInAsia;5449266]I'm young, fat, and ugly, and I'm just being honest. Some providers avoid me because I'm in my 20's and I look bad for my age. Yes I spent too much I know, but I don't get female attention often from a pretty girl. Sure I have to pay for it. I will try to negotiate better wherever I end up next, it's just hard when you walk in and the ladies look you up and down and you can tell they are thinking "I hope I don't have to help him."[/QUOTE]Hey, I feel for you and let me be frank. You are young so you have time. Most important thing. Spend some money on a trainer. Some diet control and exercise can actually fix two of the issues. The only thing you need help with is confidence and you are ahead of the game when you are mongering. This is basically a cheat. You throw money and you get attention. Exclusive attention. Know the game, every extra mile you squeeze out of a provider in to things you can coax her to do that she or other wouldn't do usually, is what you bring to the table.
You will get there but the first thing is to stop selling yourself short. Seize your circumstance and make slight changes that improve you as a person.
[QUOTE=Gothams1911;5449872]Hi everyone. Is Lilly's $280 even if you don't want FS? I'm not sure if I'm interested in that, but I don't want to pay that much for a HE or CBJ. Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Don't go to Lilly's if you don't want FS. Just see an independent Latina off rubratins. It'll save you around a hundred bucks. The girls at Lilly have GPS and generally bad attitudes.
[QUOTE=DreamHound;5449978]OK fam,
I want to preface this with I don't necessarily plan on investing more time and money into these places I listed as I have others that I am still enjoying. Pricing is high for most of these and it will be up to you for negotiation after working the topic up. All of them are responsive to the following phrase "I really can't just orgasm from a HE it is boring, I'll tip very well if you (insert action)" Most will ask how much and if it is in the right range go for it. Now that I have moved on I am sharing the wealth so to speak. As always YMMV.
Key Terms for this -.
A) Stripper Style. B2 B stripper slide.
B) False Greek. Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind.
C) AF. Anal Freak (when they want you to put a digit up them while they are giving HE).
D) Normal. Normal is UTC top and pants down but Over the Underwear.
1. Care Massage (alpharetta) - Mia (skinny petite 40+) - if she likes you she will strip and ride you stripper style until you both finish -- that being said she is very sensative so you need to get her worked up for that to happen and never ask. If you ask the answer is no and probably not even a HE later (I told a buddy and that happened to him).
2. Luna (Norcross) - Nana. Stripper style, Normal, DATY, and 1 x False Greek.
3. Excellence. Grace - False Greek, AF, Normal.
4. Kaina. Abbey - False Greek *, Normal *=she will not strip completely but will let you enjoy those thighs.
5. Angel Massage. Mikki Stripper Style, False Greek, Normal.
So you can know what the limits I have hit with them are on a regular basis. I also want to note that as personal relationships develop they go for more than listed but I did not list any of the providers who did more for their own safety / concerns. These are not normal activities and should be developed on your own charisma.[/QUOTE]How exactly can a girl do a stripper slide, pussy lips on cock, with her underwear on? (ie. Stripper style, normal).
[QUOTE=DreamHound;5449978]OK fam,
I want to preface this with I don't necessarily plan on investing more time and money into these places I listed as I have others that I am still enjoying. Pricing is high for most of these and it will be up to you for negotiation after working the topic up. All of them are responsive to the following phrase "I really can't just orgasm from a HE it is boring, I'll tip very well if you (insert action)" Most will ask how much and if it is in the right range go for it. Now that I have moved on I am sharing the wealth so to speak. As always YMMV.
Key Terms for this -.
A) Stripper Style. B2 B stripper slide.
B) False Greek. Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind.
C) AF. Anal Freak (when they want you to put a digit up them while they are giving HE).
D) Normal. Normal is UTC top and pants down but Over the Underwear.
1. Care Massage (alpharetta) - Mia (skinny petite 40+) - if she likes you she will strip and ride you stripper style until you both finish -- that being said she is very sensative so you need to get her worked up for that to happen and never ask. If you ask the answer is no and probably not even a HE later (I told a buddy and that happened to him).
2. Luna (Norcross) - Nana. Stripper style, Normal, DATY, and 1 x False Greek.
3. Excellence. Grace - False Greek, AF, Normal.
4. Kaina. Abbey - False Greek *, Normal *=she will not strip completely but will let you enjoy those thighs.
5. Angel Massage. Mikki Stripper Style, False Greek, Normal.
So you can know what the limits I have hit with them are on a regular basis. I also want to note that as personal relationships develop they go for more than listed but I did not list any of the providers who did more for their own safety / concerns. These are not normal activities and should be developed on your own charisma.[/QUOTE]So you define false greek as: Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind. . So you had sex or no? I'm looking at your experience with nana at luna, and trying to figure it out LOL. According to your key above she got naked and you had sex with her. Or at least that's what it seems you are saying.
[QUOTE=Zinzrah;5449722]Bro these girls care about money. That's it. Money. They could care less what you look like.[/QUOTE]He's right you know.
[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5450290]So you define false greek as: Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind. . So you had sex or no? I'm looking at your experience with nana at luna, and trying to figure it out LOL. According to your key above she got naked and you had sex with her. Or at least that's what it seems you are saying.[/QUOTE]No penetration, but you are basically lubed up and sliding between her thighs and can feel the vag along the way. Overrated for sure but fun all the same.
[QUOTE=PepeTheBand;5450253]How exactly can a girl do a stripper slide, pussy lips on cock, with her underwear on? (ie. Stripper style, normal).[/QUOTE]Those are the various things I have done on different visits.
[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5450290]So you define false greek as: Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind. . So you had sex or no? I'm looking at your experience with nana at luna, and trying to figure it out LOL. According to your key above she got naked and you had sex with her. Or at least that's what it seems you are saying.[/QUOTE]I didn't see anything about Nana that indicated he got FS from her.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5450472]I didn't see anything about Nana that indicated he got FS from her.[/QUOTE]He listed he got 1 x false greek, his defiinition of false greek is: B) False Greek. Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind. In his definition it says orgasm by thigh sex from behind. If he didn't get sex what does his definition mean? Maybe it's just wording but I don't understand what he got then.
[QUOTE=BubblesInAsia;5449266]I'm young, fat, and ugly, and I'm just being honest. Some providers avoid me because I'm in my 20's and I look bad for my age. Yes I spent too much I know, but I don't get female attention often from a pretty girl. Sure I have to pay for it. I will try to negotiate better wherever I end up next, it's just hard when you walk in and the ladies look you up and down and you can tell they are thinking "I hope I don't have to help him."[/QUOTE]You got good advice to get trainer and take better care of yourself. Investing now in yourself is the most important thing you can do. We make a few big decisions in life (career, spouse, where we live) but in your twenties you can't appreciate that life is a series of thousands of daily decisions that add up or subtract from your health, wealth, etc. At your age why would you want your sex life to be determined by the daily moods of a Korean or Chinese sex worker? Unless your face is grossly disfigured I doubt that is the problem. What you may be sensing is the fact that many of these girls don't think it is normal for a guy in his twenties to buy sex and it makes them wary of you. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss further.
[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5450690]He listed he got 1 x false greek, his defiinition of false greek is: B) False Greek. Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind. In his definition it says orgasm by thigh sex from behind. If he didn't get sex what does his definition mean? Maybe it's just wording but I don't understand what he got then.[/QUOTE]Maybe this will help: [URL]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercrural_sex[/URL].
[QUOTE=T9541;5449858]Went to lemon spa the other day. Very empty. Had a young short girl in baggy clothing show me to the room. Not a good start. She was also very curt and quiet and monosyllabic in her responses.
They had a TS so I opted for it (10). Nice setup. Kinda like a mini tub (walls about 4 inch height) with foam padding to lay on and a built in foam head rest. Very methodical and avoided the butthole and dangly bits. Ah well. I'll just enjoy the massage.
Pretty good massage, if a bit repetitive. Nice use of elbows. No roaming. Then she goes to hot towels to wipe off the oil. Once that's done she starts this really light fingertips everywhere massage that has me thinking "I'm asking for an hour of this next time". And lots of roaming here.
On the flip the light touch roaming continues for a bit and she asks if I want to, which I say yes, and she goes at it. I had to ask her to slow down. OTC roaming allowed. Then she says she'll take off her super baggy clothes for $60 more, and normally I say no to this, but I really need to know what those clothes are hiding so I say yes.
She's probably like 5'4" 100 lbs. Young, tight, fit, and a good amount of tattoos (in case that's not your thing). In short, absolutely perfect. Takes a while (I had been drinking) but she has no complaints and goes at it quietly the whole time. No hugs or see you next time though. She'd be my ATF if friendlier.
I also went to iris spa a few weeks ago. Good massage (didn't allow roaming until the flip, then UTC was grudgingly accepted), but she complained about how long it took. "I'm tired. You coming? So tired" so that kinda killed the vibe.[/QUOTE]Curious TS you strip down all the way? Even in legit places?
So I am visiting the area but with family. I finally found some time to sneak away. I drove the hour to Jolin feeling good. I opened the door and. Pop! My bubble busted. They are busy, come back in 20 min. So I regroup and head to mini hoping to get at least 30 min rub with slow release. Get out feeling good, opened the door and pop! We busy, come back half hour.
Realizing that I would have too many questions to answer, I sadly drove the hour back to homebase. I sure was looking forward to getting those kinks rubbed out. Maybe next trip. First time in a long time I will have to leave ATL with no joy.
I recently visited this place.
It felt different from before. They were nice people when I went there, very friendly and welcoming.
Maybe new owner.
Above all, I recommend this place because the service of the new employees is so good.
[QUOTE=GorosDawg;5450772]You got good advice to get trainer and take better care of yourself. Investing now in yourself is the most important thing you can do. We make a few big decisions in life (career, spouse, where we live) but in your twenties you can't appreciate that life is a series of thousands of daily decisions that add up or subtract from your health, wealth, etc. At your age why would you want your sex life to be determined by the daily moods of a Korean or Chinese sex worker? Unless your face is grossly disfigured I doubt that is the problem. What you may be sensing is the fact that many of these girls don't think it is normal for a guy in his twenties to buy sex and it makes them wary of you. Feel free to PM me if you want to discuss further.[/QUOTE]Goros nailed it. FYI, it's one step at a time. Don't count the minutes. Just keep on moving towards your goal and don't quit. In a short time you will have new habits and new diet interests. I've seen it over and over again with friends just like yourself. Your face will change, your body will change, your complexion will change, your mind will change. If you want to speed up the process, keep a positive outlook and let your body follow your mind.
[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5450690]He listed he got 1 x false greek, his defiinition of false greek is: B) False Greek. Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind. In his definition it says orgasm by thigh sex from behind. If he didn't get sex what does his definition mean? Maybe it's just wording but I don't understand what he got then.[/QUOTE]Ripped off! I mean who pays for that bs?
[QUOTE=BubblesInAsia;5449266]I'm young, fat, and ugly, and I'm just being honest. Some providers avoid me because I'm in my 20's and I look bad for my age. Yes I spent too much I know, but I don't get female attention often from a pretty girl. Sure I have to pay for it. I will try to negotiate better wherever I end up next, it's just hard when you walk in and the ladies look you up and down and you can tell they are thinking "I hope I don't have to help him."[/QUOTE]Enjoy your 20's my friend. I wish I could go back to those times and actually had fun in my 20's instead of always trying to find a girlfriend. I made some cool friends and even got some FWB but I wanted to settle down. Wish I spent more time having fun and traveling instead of trying to find a girlfriend on yahoo and MSN chat. The girls I mostly hooked up with were BBW and they felt they were "ugly" but they could work it in the bedroom. But bottom line is that if you don't like how you look, do something about it. If you like yourself, that's all that matters. Forget what anyone else thinks. As for these girls, if you got to pay for it, then do it. You do you my friend. These girls want to help you because they want your money. Just be sure you are getting your money's worth and not let them try to con or play you.
[QUOTE=DreamHound;5448869]Google found it right away.
1077X Alpharetta Hwy #15X.[/QUOTE]Not trying to be snarky, but what was the point of X-ing out the last digits of the address and suite numbers?
[QUOTE=Runon99;5451645]Not trying to be snarky, but what was the point of X-ing out the last digits of the address and suite numbers?[/QUOTE]Run, giving an address is against the rules of the site. Partial addresses seem to be the work around to be more detailed than just a general description.
[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5450690]He listed he got 1 x false greek, his defiinition of false greek is: B) False Greek. Will strip down and lay down and let you orgasm by thigh sex from behind. In his definition it says orgasm by thigh sex from behind. If he didn't get sex what does his definition mean? Maybe it's just wording but I don't understand what he got then.[/QUOTE]It's exactly as he said the first time. He plowed her between the legs near her bunghole whilst she was on her stomach. No penetration, just a dick plow into that diamond area. Everyone has done that. Which part is still confusing?
[QUOTE=Surch2020;5451671]Run, giving an address is against the rules of the site.[/QUOTE]If that's true, or if he thought it was true, then that would explain it. Is it true, though? I haven't ever seen such a rule.
I've seen many addresses of licensed, listed establishments given. If the address can be found on Google, on the shop's own website or advertisement, what would be the problem with giving it here?
[QUOTE=Runon99;5451715]If that's true, or if he thought it was true, then that would explain it. Is it true, though? I haven't ever seen such a rule.
I've seen many addresses of licensed, listed establishments given. If the address can be found on Google, on the shop's own website or advertisement, what would be the problem with giving it here?[/QUOTE]There is no rule on this site. It's up to the drunken whims of whichever admin is retarding the "rules" on any given moment.
[QUOTE=Lurker0825;5445817]Seems like they're open business if anyone wants to try them out I might go next week.[/QUOTE]Both times stopped the lights have been off.
Same with glow massage on old norcross.
Decided to try this place out. Typical Kamp setup. House fee. 5 for 45 minutes. Got Candy late 20's to early 30's asian with a high squeaky voice about 5 ft tall dressed in black lingerie. I had high hopes after see walked in and asked if she would be good for me. Asked for the tip upfront. She stated that she normally gets 250. I replied with can I get my house fee back please. We settled on 150. She left the room and I got comfortable. She returned proceeded with a lack luster 5 minute massage. While she did have some perky b cups with nice eraser size nipples. She also had a lot of baby damage for an Asian. After she applied the slab for a less than enthusiastic two minute CBJ she laid on the table to start off in Mish. Now I'm far from being a bigger man but she was doing everything she could to keep me from full penetration and she had applied enough lube to myself and her that there was no friction at all. Switched over to her on top that wasn't doing anything for me again way too much lube. Finally got her on the side of the table in standing K9 were I could get some good strokes going. She's making the Japanese porn videos squeaky noises which actually do nothing for me. A pound it out for another 5 minutes. She got me cleaned up with some baby wipes but unlike other places she didn't even take the time to help me get dressed as I finished. They're way better options out there better service better girls I won't repeat.
Can anyone recommend a good massage spot in Duluth, GA? Just moved out this way and would like to see what's available. I'm looking for the works!
[QUOTE=Runon99;5451715]If that's true, or if he thought it was true, then that would explain it. Is it true, though? I haven't ever seen such a rule.
I've seen many addresses of licensed, listed establishments given. If the address can be found on Google, on the shop's own website or advertisement, what would be the problem with giving it here?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5451718]There is no rule on this site. It's up to the drunken whims of whichever admin is retarding the "rules" on any given moment.[/QUOTE]I refer you to the Posting Guidelines right at the top when you Add Report.
"Please REDACT names and address numbers from posted copies of media reports. ".
This doesn't specifically mean the forum forbids posting addresses but does ask to not do so from any news media that included an address in a story. So with that, one might shy away from posting an address of a parlor or spa or just a partial address crossing out some of it. That way nites drunken whims admin just might let it go. (drunkin admin whims? LMFAO! Oops, my ass just fell on the floor again. Thanks nite, I'd better put it back on now).
[QUOTE=USABarry;5452087]
"Please REDACT names and address numbers from posted copies of media reports. ".
[/QUOTE]A review or question re an establishments location isn't a media report.
[QUOTE=Funbr202;5451742]Both times stopped the lights have been off.
Same with glow massage on old norcross.[/QUOTE]The website says they are all certified therapists at glow, not sure if they are, but if they are would be more likely they are completely legit.
[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;5452129]A review or question re an establishments location isn't a media report.[/QUOTE]Regardless of the rules, I used to post addresses on here and an admin would always put x's in place of certain numerals to the point where I started saying PM me for details.
[QUOTE=BallsOut69;5452024]Can anyone recommend a good massage spot in Duluth, GA? Just moved out this way and would like to see what's available. I'm looking for the works![/QUOTE]I'll be the first to say it.
[QUOTE=BallsOut69;5452024]Can anyone recommend a good massage spot in Duluth, GA? Just moved out this way and would like to see what's available. I'm looking for the works![/QUOTE]There is no spot in duluth for the works really. Some give good massages, and places like 888 and sunshine skip the massage and go straight for BBBJ or FS. The only place I've seen in between is magnolia, on peachtree ind. They give a massage (OK at best) then offer standard HE with roaming but the girls there have gps and will charge you top dollars. Head down to norcross you have a better chance of finding "the works", or at least a good massage with HE.
[QUOTE=USABarry;5452087]I refer you to the Posting Guidelines right at the top when you Add Report.
"Please REDACT names and address numbers from posted copies of media reports. ".
This doesn't specifically mean the forum forbids posting addresses but does ask to not do so from any news media that included an address in a story. So with that, one might shy away from posting an address of a parlor or spa or just a partial address crossing out some of it. That way nites drunken whims admin just might let it go. (drunkin admin whims? LMFAO! Oops, my ass just fell on the floor again. Thanks nite, I'd better put it back on now).[/QUOTE]A storefront massage joint is not a media report.
[QUOTE=Funbr202;5451742]Both times stopped the lights have been off.
Same with glow massage on old norcross.[/QUOTE]Got a link for Glow?
Got a 60 min massage from Amy / Anna / Annie after the front desk said there was no Mia working there. Amy said it was her first day. Late 40/50's, slim and quiet because she only speaks 4-5 words of english. Didn't drop my standard 40 out on the table but don't think it would have made any difference. Laid on top of the massage sheet which she quickly covered despite my insistence. Mediocre massage mostly just rubbing an excessive amount of oil around. Told her I was hot and pulled off the sheet which was quickly returned.
Tried once more for a HE on the flip then gave up and enjoyed the rest of the massage. 60+10.
[QUOTE=Nationalchamp;5452877]Got a 60 min massage from Amy / Anna / Annie after the front desk said there was no Mia working there. Amy said it was her first day. Late 40/50's, slim and quiet because she only speaks 4-5 words of english. Didn't drop my standard 40 out on the table but don't think it would have made any difference. Laid on top of the massage sheet which she quickly covered despite my insistence. Mediocre massage mostly just rubbing an excessive amount of oil around. Told her I was hot and pulled off the sheet which was quickly returned.
Tried once more for a HE on the flip then gave up and enjoyed the rest of the massage. 60+10.[/QUOTE]Sorry, too busy laughing. Not at you, at the fact that there's no Mia. Thanks for the honest post. Buy you a beer?
Went to Wawa recently. Got in an drew Sugar. Very attractive and came out in sexy lingerie. Nice set of D cups in front.
Gave nonexistent massage and immediately went for the flip. Everything was on the table and I got everything. Solid CBJ into mish where I finished pretty fast. She just looked too attractive. $3. 0 otd. Pretty steep there.