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[QUOTE=Jinurso;5477548]One last thing, a lot of guys talk about the girlfriend experience and how much they demand it and get upset when it's not handed to them. There's a boyfriend experience too. Even jaded sex workers can be charmed by kindness and sensuality. Go in with the BFE in mind and you'll be surprised how easy it is to get a great GFE.[/QUOTE]I think I was in his shoes 40 yrs ago. It was easier then, I just went to a Cicero cathouse and popped my cherry. I was hooked, and was there just about every weekend. It didn't help with wooing the ladies though. Joh 59 sounds like he's a young dude in an awkward stage in life with no guidance and no older male influence, (that was me also.) I could be wrong. In order to provide the BFE, one has to know what that is and I don't think he does. With my continued failure with civvy ladies, I studied up on non-verbal communication, body language and female motivation. I read "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. " Somewhere on my path, I stumbled upon the Don Juan Bible on [URL]sosuave.net[/URL]. (Treasure trove of info there. I still go there on occasion.) Wine? I didn't get into that till later in Life. Joh 59: Be careful, pursuing this hobby can jade you to women in the long run. (I speak from experience.) Lastly, I gave up on American women in '85. Women treat men much better outside the US. Get a passport Joh 59 and go to Latin America, (except Argentina.) SE Asia, Philippines. Even Canada has a great escort scene. Best of Luck Dude.
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Jennifer BBW
This woman was on all the sites for many years but seems to be no more. Had to be legit because besides being on all the sites she also had her own website. That is no more, and am wondering if any of you know if she has retired from the biz. I never saw her but did communicate with her once. She was a trendsetter in two not so good way. She was one of the first to communicate entirely by text and not accept phone calls. Now nearly all operate this way. She was also one of the first to insist on a deposit before meeting. This has also become a sad state of affairs. I think it was before these digital wallets came into being.
As a side note, how many of you have noticed that the majority of those that post on some sites aren't even accepting cash?
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[QUOTE=GaryMan;5478973]I think I was in his shoes 40 yrs ago. It was easier then, I just went to a Cicero cathouse and popped my cherry. I was hooked, and was there just about every weekend. It didn't help with wooing the ladies though. Joh 59 sounds like he's a young dude in an awkward stage in life with no guidance and no older male influence, (that was me also.) I could be wrong. In order to provide the BFE, one has to know what that is and I don't think he does. With my continued failure with civvy ladies, I studied up on non-verbal communication, body language and female motivation. I read "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. " Somewhere on my path, I stumbled upon the Don Juan Bible on [URL]sosuave.net[/URL]. (Treasure trove of info there. I still go there on occasion.) Wine? I didn't get into that till later in Life. Joh 59: Be careful, pursuing this hobby can jade you to women in the long run. (I speak from experience.) Lastly, I gave up on American women in '85. Women treat men much better outside the US. Get a passport Joh 59 and go to Latin America, (except Argentina.) SE Asia, Philippines. Even Canada has a great escort scene. Best of Luck Dude.[/QUOTE]You don't need to do a lot of this but I agree that self awareness is helpful in relationships. Pretty much in all social situations, but especially important in sexual situations, is hygiene and cleanliness. You can get a long in the latter in regard to service by demonstrating you are clean by taking a shower instead of being a stubborn guy saying you are clean despite what the provider wants. You have to take the initiative in making the other person comfortable as they will most likely be a stranger. A proper "BFE" is taking the other into consideration. You don't need wine / gifts, this isn't a regular person you're trying to woo, it's all business so keep your feelings at bay. The whole thing is a fantasy that's supposed to end within the agreed amount of time.
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Retired
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5479202]This woman was on all the sites for many years but seems to be no more. Had to be legit because besides being on all the sites she also had her own website. That is no more, and am wondering if any of you know if she has retired from the biz. I never saw her but did communicate with her once. She was a trendsetter in two not so good way. She was one of the first to communicate entirely by text and not accept phone calls. Now nearly all operate this way. She was also one of the first to insist on a deposit before meeting. This has also become a sad state of affairs. I think it was before these digital wallets came into being.
As a side note, how many of you have noticed that the majority of those that post on some sites aren't even accepting cash?[/QUOTE]Longtime periodic lurker here, but had to log in to chime in. Jennifer BBW was my intro to the hobby after I dabbled in AMPs for a while. And yes, she was an early adapter to twitter and such, which is how I found her. Dark garden level apartment near Portage Park. She was up for anything and had a nice British accent. Saw her a couple times. Never had to prepay and she never requested it. She had a sugar daddy in the burbs she talked about moving in with. She retired a few years ago, so that might have been what she did. I check her twitter occasionally but zero posts since then and nothing to indicate she's ever coming back.
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[QUOTE=GaryMan;5478973]I think I was in his shoes 40 yrs ago. It was easier then, I just went to a Cicero cathouse and popped my cherry. I was hooked, and was there just about every weekend. It didn't help with wooing the ladies though. Joh 59 sounds like he's a young dude in an awkward stage in life with no guidance and no older male influence, (that was me also.) I could be wrong. In order to provide the BFE, one has to know what that is and I don't think he does. With my continued failure with civvy ladies, I studied up on non-verbal communication, body language and female motivation. I read "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. " Somewhere on my path, I stumbled upon the Don Juan Bible on [URL]sosuave.net[/URL]. (Treasure trove of info there. I still go there on occasion.) Wine? I didn't get into that till later in Life. Joh 59: Be careful, pursuing this hobby can jade you to women in the long run. (I speak from experience.) Lastly, I gave up on American women in '85. Women treat men much better outside the US. Get a passport Joh 59 and go to Latin America, (except Argentina.) SE Asia, Philippines. Even Canada has a great escort scene. Best of Luck Dude.[/QUOTE]Doubt the escort scene here will be what it once was anytime soon. At least as long as the FOSTA law stays intact. There are some repeal efforts underway which so far haven't really bore fruit. Anyone know of any updates on this?
While Backpage was the only site officially seized at the time, many others including Craigslist ran scared and no longer have even mainstream dating ads and there is no indication that they will ever come back.
Isn't it time that the PTB realize that prohibition of this activity has been every bit the failure that it was with liquor a century ago?
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[QUOTE=Catsup;5479730]Longtime periodic lurker here, but had to log in to chime in. Jennifer BBW was my intro to the hobby after I dabbled in AMPs for a while. And yes, she was an early adapter to twitter and such, which is how I found her. Dark garden level apartment near Portage Park. She was up for anything and had a nice British accent. Saw her a couple times. Never had to prepay and she never requested it. She had a sugar daddy in the burbs she talked about moving in with. She retired a few years ago, so that might have been what she did. I check her twitter occasionally but zero posts since then and nothing to indicate she's ever coming back.[/QUOTE]I contacted her in late 2018 and by then she was insisting on advance deposits. Set the tone for what was to follow, sadly. Many upscale providers have gone that way as well.
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[QUOTE=Catsup;5479730]Longtime periodic lurker here, but had to log in to chime in. Jennifer BBW was my intro to the hobby after I dabbled in AMPs for a while. And yes, she was an early adapter to twitter and such, which is how I found her. Dark garden level apartment near Portage Park. She was up for anything and had a nice British accent. Saw her a couple times. Never had to prepay and she never requested it. She had a sugar daddy in the burbs she talked about moving in with. She retired a few years ago, so that might have been what she did. I check her twitter occasionally but zero posts since then and nothing to indicate she's ever coming back.[/QUOTE]By the time I contacted her in late 2018 she was demanding deposits. Who knew at the time what that trend would lead to.
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[QUOTE=DrPepper2976;5478822]Don't recommend independents, if you're new to the scene I'd go with an agency since they will take care of logistics better for you and you get better quality at a lower price (independents have GPS).
Modeling ave is good.
Michelles escorts is alright.
Chicgolandbodyrubs for a massage with an upgrade.[/QUOTE]I have avoided agencies because of not be able to negotiate price.
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Listcrawler ban
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[QUOTE=Devlin;5478800]I would visit Judy at OD Wellness Massage.
Once her tongue is up your b*tthole, you'll be hooked.
HashtagChasingTheDragon.[/QUOTE]I'm fairly new to the hobby. How does one go about asking her? Also, how much extra is it?
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I'm new
[QUOTE=Devlin;5478800]I would visit Judy at OD Wellness Massage.
Once her tongue is up your b*tthole, you'll be hooked.
HashtagChasingTheDragon.[/QUOTE]I'm new to the hobby. How do you go about asking her? Also, how much extra is it?
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Joh 59 - my advice
[QUOTE=Joh59;5477314], so really I just want to experience it, I'm not coming into this expecting any real connection, but I mean I'm still a guy with needs so I just want to get it done[/QUOTE]With all due respect to the other replies, if this is really your first time I'd focus on this part of your priorities and just find someone to get it done with. Not to be crude, but quit overthinking how much intimacy there will be, don't expect to make a friend, don't overspend, for heaven's sake don't try to think about what they're doing with the money, just find someone whose look turns you on and has good reviews and get a session booked. You don't need to make any big reveal about your lack of experience. The fact that you're not going into the process quizzing a girl about what's on her menu and pushing every angle for a discount will probably get you friendlier service than a lot of 'experienced' guys would get anyway. But spending too much time over analyzing to find the perfect provider for you, the bigger the chance is you're going to be disappointed and even more jaded. Go have a basic fun session with someone who attracts you, get the release you need, don't blow all your fun money at once, and then you can step back and see what other directions you might want to go. I'm of course not pushing you to do this in general if you're not ready, as there are obviously risks and expenses, but if you want to go for it, I say for this first time just let it be about the pure physical rush and getting past all the built up tension.
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[QUOTE=Joh59;5476921]I just wanted some help. Basically I'm a guy with zero experience with women, lately I've been kinda lonely and just craving that kind of intimacy, idk if it's lame but I just want to have that intimacy even if it's for a donation. I'm new to this scene and was just hoping if why'll could help me out with providing recommendations, especially for a guy for his first time. Basically just looking for someone who's not going to be judgmental and someone nice, appreciate why'll if why'll could help. Preferably someone I can find on stg or LC.[/QUOTE][blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue] I married one of these full-figured escorts! Hell, some of you guys may still be dumpin' your seed in her canyon! I think I even saw one of you guys plow her while I was in the closet. The only reason we divorced was because she had to tend to her out of state mother 4 months a year.
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Introduction
Finally decided to join here because as many of you have probably noticed it's getting harder and harder to find new, reliable talent out there. I typically stick to my go-to's, many of whom are well-reviewed here. Quick rundown:
Macie—We know her, we love her. I see her every two or three weeks. I really have nothing to add that hasn't been said. I hear she's harder to schedule these days, but I think my consistent attendance has gotten me preferential treatment on scheduling at this point.
Gizellie—Haven't tried her massage services, but she swears I'd enjoy. Prefer her for half hour FS. Starts with CBJ, but she claims she'll do BBBJ if you bring a test. I'm not going through the trouble, but I will say for a CBJ her skills are pretty great. Nice clean setup. She's a bit wary about COVID, which is understandable. She makes you wear a mask during BJ and then she puts it on during the rest and lets you take yours off.
Nicha—Well-reviewed here. I actually don't mind the talkative gals, especially after they hand me a drink. I really dig her body: I tend to go for curvy girls and she just nails the proportions I'm into. She goes by a standard script, which is fine by me. Quality experience at 3, but she recently raised her rate to 4. I probably won't see her again until she brings that back down.
I've seen a few others, but these are the most recent. Happy to fill in details or give advice based on my experiences, either here or dm.
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Ban
[QUOTE=Chigod7;5480099]How do I get back on listcrawler? I clear cache and cookies and actually all settings in chrome. What am I missing? Thanks.[/QUOTE]How do you know you're banned? Did it actually say that you are banned?