Looking for a SB for some fun. Kind of a spinner type! Anyone got some suggestions? Thanks
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Looking for a SB for some fun. Kind of a spinner type! Anyone got some suggestions? Thanks
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy; 1862633]Not my usual M. O. There are exceptions to every rule. And she is one of them. 25 year old. 7/9/9/8.[/QUOTE]Rules are made to be broken!
[QUOTE=BuckHead44;1862759]Looking for a SB for some fun. Kind of a spinner type! Anyone got some suggestions? Thanks[/QUOTE]Read the entire thread. And go get one.
Back in the game, I finally got back in the game in a huge way. As you know the Chicago market is not as good as other metro areas, but I think I'm getting the hang of it. First day back on SA and a Black BBW as for 500 per meetand then a white smaller BBW ask for 300 per meet. I was ready up to give just to go back to POF, but I struggled and long be hold TuesdayI starting talking to a girl and just five minutes ago a 34 yr old former blonde Maxim model and contestant on the bachelor just left my apartment, after being railed on my couch doggy style for about 3 hrs. Sex was average, but her hotness made up for it. If you include her dinners and drinks.
The damage was about $$$$ plus 50 mind you this in Chicago where average to below average white chick can get 300 per meet easy. So I really hit the jackpot here. She wasnt too happy about the price, but I caught her in a jam she has to pay her Benz car note, but has trip planned to Vegas next weekend. I am fairly certain this is her first online encounter due to the nervousness over the phone and text though she has had mostly rich boyfriends and a fling with Steve Kerr.
And I broke one of my rules. I never message girls asking for 3-5k, but I did this time and used the art of negotiation, and bam hit a grand slam. I'm still in awe I barely can type. I'm still going try that WYP site though I'm afraid that site might attract more pro's. I need to find some budget babies in case this one starts flaking once she gets back from Vegas or wants more money. This was my first experience with an super hot older woman.
MW welcome brother, it's good to see you her on this board. This board is a lot less drama than the other board we are on together. Enjoy the ride and keep reporting!
Rob, thanks for the info, I see now that I want not parts of SBs in Chicago, lol.
Looks like my AF time is getting ready to pay off. I have a few lined up for M&Gs soon. I'll keep you updated. One very nice feature is their Q&A section. I just started reading the Q&A from the POTs. One of the questions is "Would you have sex on the first date?". For those of us who are not quite as smooth to ensure first date success, this is a great help. Although I've had lots of success, my first date Tiggabounce rate pales in comparison to my second date success. So now it's the first answer I look for, hoping they answered it.
BigTigg
I wish you the best with your new decision. Your input has been invaluable and I've always appreciated your wisdom and candor.
BT.
[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1861621]Thanks guys for your kind words. I'll be reading your stories with eager anticipation. The answer to your quick question Revvo is anything but quick. LOL.
The" formula " for each one of us depends on our age, looks, charm, and sugar offer. Some of you come in with impossibly cheap (or free) babies and others spend a fortune. I am in the middle. I am lucky to have everything in the plus column except age, so I feel that I need to pay a little more to compete in the market I like, The 20s. I am 60ish, look 48 to 52 but still waaay too old for a 22 yr old to feel like I could possibly be an IRL candidate. Some of you are 30 to 40 and 20 somethings can see you as a potential lover rather than a daddy. Therefore they might be willing to date you for gas money or a nice meal. I'm a sugar grand daddy (SGD).
Ratings : (only make offers to the best)
Are totally personal, so my 10 might be your 8. But I do set pretty high standards. I only contact girls who are 8+ in the looks dept to begin with. I require a firm toned body and a pretty face, so right off the bat I have an 8to10/8to10/? . Occasionally the pics might be 5 yrs old and 20 Lbs lighter and if I am in a dry spell I will try them out, but will not keep them in the rotation. Attitude counts for a huge amount and can skew your impression of looks by virtue of her presentation. Finally, skills do not matter to me if looks and attitude are right. Plain vanilla fucking is still a hell of a lot of fun with an inexperienced girl who is eager and enthusiastic.
Location is key:
I believe you need to be in or near a large metro area with multiple colleges nearby. Central Va is ideal because Richmond is only 60 to 90 minutes away from DC, NOVA, and Tidewater. There is a huge military presence in Tidewater and my last 2 SBs were both military. Without counting there are over 10 colleges within 90 miles of Richmond. That represents a lot of HCBs who are broke and know about the Sugar world. You must stay at least 60 miles away from your home base if you have a SO. This allows you to date in the open more easily and hopefully not get spotted.
Sugar :
Last but not least. I pay $$.5 sometimes including Notel. If I pay for a Notel I add another $50. The total damage is $$$ plus entertainment. I usually take my baby out to dinner for an extra $ 50 to 75. The last Baby to scam me took $$.5 that I prepaid after seeing her for 5 or 6 times before that, but she didn't require food since she ate earlier with her kid, so in the end I saved a lot.
Perhaps I don't bargain hard enough but I feel that the price is fair if service is great.
Bottom line, if you are having a hard time attracting quality Babies 1) expand your search area to include a market I described above. 2) Polish your game by studying the "book" we all wrote. 3) set your standards higher, and 3) up your Sugar amount. You might not be as cute as Big Tigg or have game like F Scott and Hollywood. (Many of you are superstars, I don't mean to leave anyone out) [/QUOTE]
MsCoolSlim. Easily one of the prettiest is excited about meeting on Wed. We have exchanged a few emails since we set the date. I'm not 100% sure how long it's going to take for the Tiggabounce, I know she's been a bit skittish about the whole online thing. I do know, she's not had sex in over a year and she just started dating again. So I'm going to put a full court press on her for the next week and try to close this deal. Wed, I'll pay for the meal and give her. 50 for gas. I'll then set up another date, movie, dinner. And do much more flirting and hopefully get in some good kissing, I'll give her another. 50. Then setup the third date as a dinner date with the hotel option.
FYI: I've started a new approach to getting to the Tiggabounce faster. It's new to me, but many others have used it a lot. When planning the dinner date I ask,"is it ok to have dinner at a really nice hotel restaurant and we can decide by the end of dinner to move the fun to a room?" This has worked for me more often than not. It also quickly let's you know where here mind is at. I'll do that with MsSlimCool on date #3.
I have a date with MsPreLaw (22 years old) on Wed night and hit her with almost that exact question. She was all for it. This one is willing to take $ per meet, whenever I'm free.
The 21 year old AA spinner and I are meeting tomorrow night at a nice hotel restaurant with option of a room. I'm going to have to call her, MsNSASpinner as she does not communicate much and seems to really be into the NSA, let's just plan and do it, no need for a bunch of talk in between, LOL. I still think she might be semi-pro, but I'm still sticking to our financial agreement regardless, LOL.
Another hit from AF. 25 year old AA. 5'1 with small be-cups, but nice bottom. She has the exact same body as my ATF that I'm seeing. Except she's much closer, available more and younger. She has a job and is only looking for a little extra. She's agreed to $ per meet also (I presented it as twice a week $800 per month). We are going to have an impromptu M&G today. Something simple, probably about an hour and I'll give her gas money. I expect that by first real date, we'll be having the Tiggabounce!
Keep up the good work guys and by all means report back.
BigTigg
So I have had my new profile on SD4M for about 8 days and have just sat there to see who responds. I got about 80 messages of which about 10 were real and maybe 3 were interesting. I have narrowed it down to 1 that I am messaging.
I only post this for the new guys. You can pretty much disregard the first full week or two of unsolicited responses as they are mostly BS. I intentionally made the focus of the ad very narrow so as to appeal to the least number of girls possible. I put a code word in the profile and ask them to message me with the code word in the subject line, which about 10% to 20% have done.
I will probably only keep it up there for 2 months and then try another one. I will keep my old profile up and continue to target only brand new girls (as in it's their first day on the site) that are 18 to 20 unless they are true spinner materiel in which case I guess they could be any age.
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1863911]MW welcome brother, it's good to see you her on this board. This board is a lot less drama than the other board we are on together. Enjoy the ride and keep reporting!
Rob, thanks for the info, I see now that I want not parts of SBs in Chicago, LOL.
Looks like my AF time is getting ready to pay off. I have a few lined up for M&Gs soon. I'll keep you updated. One very nice feature is their Q&A section. I just started reading the Q&A from the POTs. One of the questions is "Would you have sex on the first date?". For those of us who are not quite as smooth to ensure first date success, this is a great help. Although I've had lots of success, my first date Tiggabounce rate pales in comparison to my second date success. So now it's the first answer I look for, hoping they answered it.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]One thing I will say is that the girl who waits for the second meeting tend to be more normal and stable then girls who do it on the 1st date. I have had some 1st date girls who were for the most part cool, but the econd date girls seem like better long term material and less weird and skittish. Also if a girl waits to the second date you can be sure that she is not a pro, non pro, or UTR in disguise as a SB. UTR' would not go through that much time and effort.
It seems like there is a lot of awesome sex going on in the SB world, as it should be. It's apparent to anyone that has been doing this for a while that the supply of pussy far exceeds the amount of available dick. Yours included. For those of you that have an SO. How many times a month do you hit that? I am single and do not have nearly enough dick to supply the girls I see and always have to make excuses why I can't see them more often. Even if you know they know you play around, you can't really say that. Sometimes I will do 2 in a day (just like when I was married and had no choice).
So is it that your SO just has very minimal needs in which case it may not come up too often? Or is more of just wanting some variety? I was married twice and I do remember dry spells. But if all of a sudden my SO wanted it and I didn't deliver, that would have been a giant red flag. She considered me some kind of sex fiend and sex fiends don't turn down sex. So do you guys just fuck till you are numb (my problem today, which is what brought all this to mind) or do you find a balance or what? I know I have a hard (or not so hard time. LOL. As the case may be) in scheduling all this shit in.
This is a quality problem, but a problem all the same. For guys that do SW's and escorts this is no big deal which is one reason I think they prefer them. But your SB's are counting on sugar from a very limited number of guys or maybe just you. I know I have paid for skipped dates at times just to keep the piece / peace. And the only reason I skip a date is that I am just sexed out.
An SB can be controlled with money and dick (and even then not always)(if that persists at least you can boot 'em) , but an SO needs more than that. You probably didnt get hooked up just for pussy, it was the total package. And they are not going to be mollified just by buying them something. I once bought my wife a new car (the one she picked out) and didn't get laid that night.
[QUOTE=Rob Taylor;1864077]One thing I will say is that the girl who waits for the second meeting tend to be more normal and stable then girls who do it on the 1st date. I have had some 1st date girls who were for the most part cool, but the econd date girls seem like better long term material and less weird and skittish. Also if a girl waits to the second date you can be sure that she is not a pro, non pro, or UTR in disguise as a SB. UTR' would not go through that much time and effort.[/QUOTE]My counterpoint in my (admittedly limited) career as a SD is that "it depends". My SB / mistress waited until the first time after the M&G, and biology dictated that I receive only. Messed-up childhood aside, she's very normal, sweet, and kind. So that lines up with your maxim.
On the flip side, I was ensnared by a UTR, who also waited until the 2nd meeting. Although she was pushing pretty hard by then (apparently I didn't move her threat-meter very much) and knew exactly what she was doing in terms of getting us into a FC so she could do me once, take the money, and do a quick exit. Live and learn, but waiting until the 2nd date definitely does not exclude Pros or UTRs.
Who would have thunk? Is there such a thing as too much pussy?
We each have our biologic limit as far as ability to orgasm, get an erection, etc. Variety is definitely the key to maxing out your OPW (Orgasm Per Week) capability. I found that 3 days in a row with the same girl makes it hard to orgasm the 3rd day, but three different girls are usually no problem. I have never had 4 different women in 4 days straight so that remains a goal if I reenter the Sugar world at some point. I am not one of the lucky guys who can pop multiple times / session. But that one pop is worth the price of admission.
The thing about SO sex, after decades it gets boring and to top it all off women in menopause lose their interest in sex. I have talked to many older women who tell me that they would be happy never having it again and only do so to keep their man off their back (or actually on their backs LOL ). Think about the biology of it. Sex is designed to make reproduction a fun thing so that we will do it a lot, go forth and populate the Earth. Men spread their seed and women have and nurture the offspring. When childbearing is no longer possible there is no more need for sex from a repro POV. Many husbands in long term marriages or relationships seek out sex partners to fill that void ++ hence Sugar World. A common thread here is that we "love our SO ", but ++++
SOs want emotional and physical gratification, SBs want sex and $$. My most recent ATF# 4 is the only one I've been with who I feel needs servicing on a regular basis and will miss my Dick. But she (and I) knows that there are replacements around the corner.
So my M&G with the spinner with the body of my ATF, let's call her MsLilMama, was initially cancelled then the venue changed. We talked on the phone for about 45 minutes then about an hour before the date she could not find a sitter. So she invited me by after the baby was asleep. Now this is our first meeting, so I did not want to spook her or disrespect that fact she was letting me come to her place. At the same time I wanted to be prepared, because she came across as very down to earth and easy going.
So I asked if I could bring dinner, even though it was late, didn't want to show up with just a hard-on. I found a nice Thai spot, sent her the link, she picked her meal and I picked it up on the way there. She mentioned that she had a bottle of some alcoholic beverage, so I could just get something to drink for myself. With that information, I decided I'd better get condoms and some sugar.
She was laid back, easy to look at and very comfortable. She opened the door with some black yoga pants (wow she has a nice butt for a small girl) and a simple blouse. Her 34Cs were very accentuated. Lo and behold the food was good and very spicy, but it paled in comparison to the rest of the evening.
So we ate on the couch watching TV, after I finished I asked if I could move over and sit beside her (I asked and moved at the same time). From that point, she made it a point to touch and semi-snuggle. Eventually we talked more about the relationship and things we could do. So finally I positioned myself in front of her on the couch and said, I guess there isn't much else to say and started kissing her right there on the couch.
Before you know it we are into some heavy making out and I have boobs in my mouth and things are moving along well. With the kid sleep in the bedroom, I wasn't quite sure how far she wanted to go, but her body language was 100% full speed ahead. At some point I positioned her on my lap and she started grinding and moaning. I began to move her shirt up to kiss on her stomach and she raised her hands. So I quickly caught the hint and took off the shirt and bra. I then instructed her to take off my shirt, she liked being told what to do. After a few more minutes of bare-chest to boob making out. It was time.
I flipped her over, laid her on the couch, put her hands in my pants, and took off her yoga pants. I then started a slow round of oral on her. Man she was tasty! I had to go slow because I still had on my pants and I was on the floor while she was on the couch. So I had to keep licking her while getting my pants off, getting the condom box out of my pants pocket, getting the condom out the box, getting the condom out the wrapper and getting the condom on. I did not want to lose momentum and I wanted to be as smooth as possible. Eventually I was able to accomplish all of this. By this time she was getting close. So I upped the intensity of the licking and right as she started to orgasm I put it in, this almost sent her through the roof. She was trying to be quiet, but some of the noises she just could not help.
Multiple positions, one more orgasm for her and one for me and we were both sweaty and spent. We laid on the couch wrapped in each others arms for some afterglow. I eventually cleaned up and headed home. She had lots of nice things to say and was impressed that she had 2 orgasms. She told me, she didn't know she could have two, just had just told me earlier that day that she was the one and done type. I gave her the agreed upon $ and we texted while I drove home.
We have talked this morning and exchanged texts and emails. I talked about the first date thing. She was like, look we know what this is, why play games. She was very attracted to me and I could tell by her body language that she wanted it badly. Afterwards she said "that is exactly what I needed".
This girl is a keeper 8/9/10/9
Her body is like this, with just a little bigger butt and hips
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[QUOTE=Rob Taylor;1863509]Back in the game, I finally got back in the game in a huge way. As you know the Chicago market is not as good as other metro areas, but I think I'm getting the hang of it.[/QUOTE]Hey Rob,
I'm fishing in the Chicago pool as well, for the past 4 years, and have had great success! Maybe you need to polish your text a bit, or your initial / follow up techniques?
Keep at it, and let me know if you want to share approaches / leads. PM me with your email address. ChiGuy606 on this thread is also here, and we have each others backs. It's a beautiful thing!
Scott
[QUOTE=ReneeNay;1864768]Hi yall come see me private shows 50 BJ 100 every thing body rubs much more 5023560975 I am 100 real. No drugs games I never turn a client away. And I am lots of fun to be with I am single as well so what you waiteing for make that call xxo.[/QUOTE]Nooooo Make it go away!
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1864772]Hey Rob,
I'm fishing in the Chicago pool as well, for the past 4 years, and have had great success! Maybe you need to Polish your text a bit, or your initial / follow up techniques?
Keep at it, and let me know if you want to share approaches / leads. PM me with your email address. ChiGuy606 on this thread is also here, and we have each others backs. It's a beautiful thing!
Scott[/QUOTE]Not too say you can't get laid in Chicago. But if you look at the prices vs quality compared to other cities. Chicago is lacking. You can get a super hott close to model like chick (white girl) in LA for like 300. In Chicago your shelling out about 300-500 for a normal looking White chick, and 4$-6$ for a super hott one. New York has high prices like Chicago, but the woman are better looking, so you get more value. Its not that there is not talent, but you just don't get as much bang for your buck. This is my observation from sampling different markets and reading reports on the forum and comparing prices. Chicago's problem is that there is really no centrally located area of white girls who need help, most girls who live in Lakeview or River North don't need an SD. The market is tight this also enable non white SB's to raise prices. I have no problem getting laid on the SD scene, just railed a former model at my house over the weekend. I'm just saying in other cities I could have done samething without as much as a beating on my wallet.
I know this is not a very common occurrence, but some of you have SB referral from an existing SB.
This is a first for me, so it's a little intriguing.
I've met this 23 yr old AA SB last week. We only dated once at the FC. I've tried to squeeze in another date before her move out of town, but I couldn't because of work and her getting ready for the move. She needed a little $ for her move, and that's why we met and we have a few attempts that failed because she was kind of cold feeted. Our meeting almost didn't happen, but I convinced her while being funny at the same time and she bought into it. She was a really nice and sweet girl, though inexperienced.
Anyway, a few days after her move I've followed up and txt her just to check in and see how things go, yeah I am a gentleman (a horny one. LOL). So we exchanged a few txt messages and she mentioned that her friend might want to meet me, so I say sure why not but I asked if her friend was as pretty as her, jokingly of course. So she called her friend and gave her my number. Shortly after, I received a msg with from her friend and we exchanged txts throughout the day, then some pics etc. She's also 23yr AA, but much slimmer and a former amateur model. She's got a 1yrd kid, and the baby's dad is out of the picture so she needs a little financial support. Found out she's been on the SD4M site a few months, and found nothing a few fakes.
I think she got the body that Hollywood might agree with. 5'4 and probably way less than 105lbs according to her pics. I am trying to set up a date with her this week, probably straight to the FC as I always do. I usually tell them that I am married and need to be discreet, so we need to meet at a hotel. I'll bring drinks, we'll chat and get to know each other and just see how it goes. But usually, it ends up with POF, with the only exception being the mini Byonce girl that I've reported earlier.
Play nice. Many people have varied tastes and she's just trying to make a living.
[QUOTE=WoodSlinger;1865046]Nooooo Make it go away![/QUOTE]
Thanks for the welcome and yes, there's much more discussion on this thread and doesn't seem to be as much drama as the Baltimore Non-Pro thread. I've had the pleasure of meeting another SB, and hopefully she will become part of the rotation. 29 year-old single mom about 5'5 with a body to die for. Very passionate and loves to fuck the Weinerman the way he likes it! She's not a WYP girl or SA, she contacted me on an old "Financial assistance" ad from BP that I didn't know was still up. My late 30's blonde was supposed to come up last night but flaked on me. She just texted me and said she has a terrible migraine. I may see my tall Latina dancer tonight if she's not working and I don't get confirmation from the married Brazilian MILF for tomorrow morning. Saturday night the Chinese / Russian girl is coming up to spend the night.
[QUOTE=BigTigger; 1863911]MW welcome brother, it's good to see you her on this board. This board is a lot less drama than the other board we are on together. Enjoy the ride and keep reporting!
Rob, thanks for the info, I see now that I want not parts of SBs in Chicago, LOL.
Looks like my AF time is getting ready to pay off. I have a few lined up for M&Gs soon. I'll keep you updated. One very nice feature is their Q&A section. I just started reading the Q&A from the POTs. One of the questions is "Would you have sex on the first date?". For those of us who are not quite as smooth to ensure first date success, this is a great help. Although I've had lots of success, my first date Tiggabounce rate pales in comparison to my second date success. So now it's the first answer I look for, hoping they answered it.
BigTigg[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;1865567]Play nice. Many people have varied tastes and she's just trying to make a living.[/QUOTE]Is this the right place for her to advertise? It will be permanently in the Clubhouse Journal now, unless Jackson removes it for us?
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1865800]Is this the right place for her to advertise? It will be permanently in the Clubhouse Journal now, unless Jackson removes it for us?
Scott[/QUOTE]I imagine she just made a mistake. But holy hell talk about the wrong place! A mature woman, posting in a place where the men are talking about banging young 18. 25 year old hotties? Someone should just move it to the Escorts category or whatever.
[QUOTE=LikeMike1963;1865567]Play nice. Many people have varied tastes and she's just trying to make a living.[/QUOTE]Hell, at this time, I'd tap it.
[QUOTE=WoodSlinger;1865850]I imagine she just made a mistake. But holy hell talk about the wrong place! A mature woman, posting in a place where the men are talking about banging young 18. 25 year old hotties? Someone should just move it to the Escorts category or whatever.[/QUOTE]Thankfully, someone else realized the insane irony of the situation, and the Journal is clean! Talk about barking up the wrong tree!
Hope everyone had a wonderful holiday weekend. My Country Baby disappeared on me, sadly. She is so beautiful, but also so incredibly flaky. As you all know, I like the artistic, creative types, but I also acknowledge that unreliability comes with the species. It helps to keep me fluid, I guess, but honestly I was so looking forward to fucking her. She is gorgeous, and Scottie was longing for her in a most unbecoming way.
Oh well, as my grandmother used to say, girls are like streetcars, there's another one along every five minutes. Wait, she wasn't referring to SBs, come to think of it, but the advice is still just as valid!
These next few weeks will be quiet for me, I'm afraid. My new ATF leaves for NYC permanently on Monday, my Skittish Baby has dived underground again, apparently, and my former ATF has decided that the lesbian life is just what her doctor ordered after all, I guess. This leaves me with just my little AA spinner, which is no kind of punishment whatsoever, but I normally like to keep two babies in rotation at a minimum, since scheduling is often tricky for me. An opportunity to replenish the sugar bowl is how I'm looking at it.
In the meantime, I look forward to reading about all your all exploits. It is a uniquely literate thread, isn't it?
Tally ho,
Scott
Things are starting to stabilize and this is very good. Less and less work and more calm. Confidence is increasing even with some of the failures as well as some nice victories. Less expense and less work. This is important. Because the candle will burn out. There is still quite a bit of activity as things progress.
REVVO_ATF: I did hear from her on Monday about getting together this week. But I am already booked and just do not have the time. Besides I am going to probably slowly ease her out. Good girl. Probably the prettiest in the bunch and likes sex but not as fun as the others. Been with me a long time. Maybe we will work something out in the future.
REVVO_POT1: So as the last report said she went dark the day of our second date. Not sure why. All systems were definitely go but I think many of these 'normal' women just can't make the leap to P4P. Anyway I still try to contact her and try to rekindle but chances are extremely slim. Besides she is an 8/9/8? I can't just give up on that. But she is coming off the list for now.
REVVO_POT3: So is was another one that just went dark. Once again I never thought this one would back out. Her expressed desire to be with me was so strong. So when she went dark I was baffled. So having nothing to lose and with plenty of backups I proceeded as if nothing happened. Still texting and calling and sure enough 5 days later she contacts me willing to talk as if nothing happened. However I did notice a little less enthusiastic but very willing. We are now scheduled for a date for Thursday evening. She has given me her address which shows she is committed. But we shall see. But she is a 5'7' white blond gorgeous blue eyes, and a rockin body that she works out every day. She is rated at a 7/8/9? So my hopes are high. She lives in another city that I travel to frequently. So she could be a real keeper. These babies always surprise.
REVVO_POT5: This is an interesting one. But I'm not going to fight too hard for this one. She is busy and I am fully booked so I will slow roll this. But man what a body. I can give her some space for now. May not go anywhere. We shall see. When I asked for more pics she send me some really nice R rated photos that looked very good. I just am not sure once again how ready she is for an actual meeting. Not holding my breath as usual.
REVVO_SB1: No news here she is patiently waiting been weeks and may be more. Just don't have the time or money. Completely back burner.
REVVO_SB2: This is one that I really like. She is a cute little brazillian princess and she is such a good fuck. She was out of town last week and we cannot schedule a meet this week. But she is literally trying to switch shifts at her bartending job to meet me on Friday. No word yet. She is not the most beautiful of the bunch but cute and very sexy body. She is a 7/8/10/10 but she has that quality that I just love a combination of sexiness / passion / femininity / and so ready to fuck. And she cums so hard and completely that she is immobilized for a minute or so. What a combination. Oh and the best blow jobs. Another keeper.
REVVO_SB3: My little AA Morrocan has contacted me a couple of times but I cannot squeeze her in. She does not float my boat anyway. Maybe sometime in the future.
REVVO_SB4: So I fucked my little Colombian coconut on Tuesday. She was good to go and the sex was amazing. Lots of orgasms, fucking and once again sleeping in each others arms to a thunderstorm. Yes it has been raining a lot down here in FLa. I am doing her about once a month now and she seems fine with it. No pressure or trouble.
REVVO_SB5: No activity with my little euro baby. She is patient and waiting for me to return. I honestly cannot squeeze them all in. I am going to have to continue to cull them out. I certainly have the quantity if not the quality of some of the brothers in the clubhouse. Maybe next week but not sure.
REVVO_SB6: This is my cute little girl next door. White 23 YO 5'2' very sexy body spinner material, dark eyes and very sexual. Cums very easily and maybe the tightest pussy I have ever fucked. I have to put it in slow or she going to be hurt. But once we start going she is all over my dick. I give her a 8/9/8/8 and getting better. Good communicator. Someone I can really spend time with. We have a lot of the same interests and she is very mature. Fucked her today and spent the afternoon together and it was great. She is starting to get more and more fond of me and it is only getting better. She looks so good standing naked in front of me with that flat stomach and those sexy legs with that gap between them. We used to call them sunset legs.
That's the supplemental. More to come. I am culling it down still and I am still out on the SD site. Membership has expired just working on what I have and it is a lot. I think my ideal would be SB6 as a regular once a week and for fun stuff outside the bedroom. SB2 as a regular since she is so much fun also and I never have to pay her just gifts and hotel room. And POT3 as a third SB and great to visit in other city. So when traveling on business no hotel or food costs, just sugar. Then maybe SB4 as a good backup / booty call baby since she is very business like. The other SB's I think would be hurt if I neglect them too much. Just dreaming. It is very hard to plan how this will turn out. But I like the calm of scaling this down. But I have more scaling down to go.
Be careful out there.
REVVO
I feel like I am falling behind. No new girls to speak of. I keep going after the absolute non pros and very young. Very difficult. Txted a UTR girl out of desperation today. One problem with being spoiled is that good is just not good enough. Also its harder to enjoy with my biz being so slow. I do enjoy reading everyones updates. Lurkers please contribute. Your anonymity is secure on this site.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1866213]I feel like I am falling behind. No new girls to speak of. I keep going after the absolute non pros and very young. Very difficult. Txted a UTR girl out of desperation today. One problem with being spoiled is that good is just not good enough. Also its harder to enjoy with my biz being so slow. I do enjoy reading everyones updates. Lurkers please contribute. Your anonymity is secure on this site.[/QUOTE]I read this and thought, that's me. Summer time is slow, and my work load is starting to increase as the year comes to a close. Time to dip the toes in the proverbial sugar pool for some more fun.
[QUOTE=WoodSlinger;1866235]I read this and thought, that's me. Summer time is slow, and my work load is starting to increase as the year comes to a close. Time to dip the toes in the proverbial sugar pool for some more fun.[/QUOTE]And my little stripper SB is so straight. She works with all these hot girls. Be she is not into girls or sharing me with her co-workers. And I am sure the ones that would want way more than I can spend. I never really got a referral SB before.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;1866213]I feel like I am falling behind. No new girls to speak of. I keep going after the absolute non pros and very young. Very difficult. Txted a UTR girl out of desperation today. One problem with being spoiled is that good is just not good enough. Also its harder to enjoy with my biz being so slow. I do enjoy reading everyones updates. Lurkers please contribute. Your anonymity is secure on this site.[/QUOTE]No need to worry brother. You got it good. You are not falling behind. You just are in a good place enjoying where you are at.
Getting off the hamster wheel is much better. Look at me a victim of my own excess. Recognizing what you have is half the battle.
Revvo
Sorry I haven't been able to contribute much to the clubhouse recently, but I do get a great kick out of reading my fellow travelers' exploits.
I thought I might throw a reminder out there that there are different ways and methods of getting to the same place, which is in the FC with POTF (how's that for 2 acronyms in the same sentence?) I have been seeing a late 30's MILF that I met from placing a Craigslist ad a few months ago. She is really into me and the sex is unbelievable plus the price is right. As in lunch and beers only! I am also having a second meeting today with a much younger MILF stripper that I initially met a couple weeks ago, who didn't seem opposed at all to the idea of meeting up in another, more private location than the strip club. Pricing seems to be in line with reasonable Babies so I do have my hopes up slightly for this one. Of course, we all know how fickle these Babies can be. I have to travel for deeper fishing waters as there appears to be an outbreak of GPS in the local ponds. As I've been quoted $500-$1, 000! Even a 40ish, overweight hippy gal quoted me $300, and that was only for an hour!
On a sadder note, my on again off again ATF of 2+ years is apparently off again for good. Of course I have thought that before and then she will contact me out of the blue as if nothing has happened. I have finally got to the point of not stressing over it for the most part. If I see her, I see her. If not, my world will not end. To steal a line from my good friend Scott, I could have ruined my life for her I believe. We had a really strong connection.
Lastly, I have to give props to Revvo, who is an old online buddy from a stripper site. We both used to fancy the stripper world and the possibilities there. It appears Revvo has been converted to the Sugar world and seems to be doing quite well. Good for you my man! Obviously I haven't been able to wean myself from that dark place, but I keep trying! Could it have something to do with the local GPS Baby world?
Keep at it my fellow travelers, and keep those reports coming!
My current ATF (#4) I will keep in touch with her even though I am "retiring". She is actually a retired dancer from another life and world and amazingly is not GPS, but very reasonable, low key,and appreciative. In her day she made $2000 / night and I believe it since she was in a hot market and is super talented in looks and personality. She is a 10 across the board and I am loathe to give her up. She can get any guy she wants and the only limit is how much sex and extra funds she needs. She seems to have enough money to sustain herself with the basics. And I feel that we have a connection together, or at least she makes me feel that way. I certainly don't want to be in a conga line but I think she will tell me if she has other guys in her life. She is straight forward like that.
I am still perusing the Boards even though I am not prospecting any more. I am back in the homestead and the warden is on top of things pretty regularly. I think traveling sales is the job to have for optimal married Sugar dating.
[QUOTE=Magic Rat;1866452]Lastly, I have to give props to Revvo, who is an old online buddy from a stripper site. We both used to fancy the stripper world and the possibilities there. It appears Revvo has been converted to the Sugar world and seems to be doing quite well. Good for you my man! Obviously I haven't been able to wean myself from that dark place, but I keep trying! Could it have something to do with the local GPS Baby world?[/QUOTE]Thanks brother Rat. It is you that turned me on to this mystical, magical, confusing world of the Sugar Bowl. And for that I do appreciate it. Yes I was deep into the dark recesses of the Stripper world and spending much much money for risky and very inconsistent encounters with mostly beautiful but crazy women.
The sugar bowl much more suits me. But I still need to be careful. This has led me down the path of the most growth in my life in the last 25 years. Not so sure I have not traded one insanity for another though. I think I am making progress into a more stable path. I have let my SD membership expire and I do not go on any SD sites anymore. And I am activley culling my POTs and SBs down to a manageable level. I guess that is progress.
Thanks again.
Revvo
It seems like I may be losing one of my regular girls in the rotation. SB 1, my tall blonde in her late 30's. She is my ATF, but has a tendency to be kind of flaky. She will text me at 9pm and tell me she's coming over, but after an hour goes by (her distance to me) and nothing, my text messages yield nothing. Then, all of a sudden, after I'm in bed at 2 or 3am, she'll say she's almost there. It's happened the last couple of times we've hooked up, and is kind of fun, since she'll just ask me to leave the back door open and will slip into bed naked with me. We end up fucking until my alarm goes off at 6:30 for work, but then I'm a zombie all day. Night before last, she was supposed to come up and totally flaked on me. I kept waking up expecting a text or for her to just come in through the back door, but nothing. The next day she apologized and said she had a migraine. Then last evening she sends me a text that she wants to see me. Now since I had already scheduled time with SB 3, the Brazilian married MILF for this morning, I told her that I wasn't feeling well and we'd have to reschedule. What began as concern for my feigned illness, alluded to attitude and disbelief.
I am a terrible liar, but I don't need SB drama and I don't want my SB's knowing that there are four or five others that are competing for my time, affection, and mostly sugar! Consequently, SB 3 is now my ATF. She has admitted that she has another SD that pays her much more than me, but is becoming quite possessive. He pays five times as much as me, but there's something to be said for being compassionate, understanding, and sexually compatible. I asked SB 3 about taking pics of her while we were fucking and her eyes got real big and said,"Can we?" How in the world can I not indulge her? So as I was fucking SB 3, SB 2 the tall Latina dancer sends me a text and says that she has the night off from work and can I come over. Jeez, just no rest for the weary. I had to tell her that I needed a rain check and hopefully Sunday or Monday we can hook up.
Lastly SB 4 the Russian/Chinese student is also a strong candidate for the waiver wire or injured reserve, sports fans. She cannot host and is a 30 to 40 min drive from me. She usually spends the night with me and is very low maintenance, pizza, beer, a PPV movie and off to the bedroom. It's not just the drive, but she is not into kissing, and although her BBBJ's and tight pussy weigh heavily upon me, I believe that this will be our Last Tango in Paris. I'm hoping that I can get SB 1 to be more responsible, with respect to my time. She always has an excuse, from flat tires to running out of gas, but as my money gets tighter, I may have to cut her loose too. I want to post pics of my SB's but as Tigger will attest to, in Baltimore, I lost more than I gained as some of the girls were alerted to, or just simply found out on their own that I had posted their pics.
MW
I haven't posted an update for a while. Why is it work needs are directly correlated with SB POTS?
Over the last few months, my bench has had significant disruptions. Pretty much everyone from my June update is gone or on a long break. I'm on my way to a Skittles all-american team now though!
Here's the current situation:
POTS.
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Latina spinner 27. 7/8/9?. She sounds just like Gloria from Modern Family. She doesn't have the curves, but she's a nice package. She has a good job, and her own apartment. She just wants to enjoy nice dinners, and vacations with someone. We've had lunch, and have a date planned for next week.
AA stripper 24. 9/10/8?. I tend to stay away from strippers. But, she seems normal and grounded. She's happy with under $1k / mo and she can host 1-2 week. Going to the FC tomorrow at her place.
East Indian Grad student 24. 7/8?. Just talking now, but she just wants some passion and attention.
AA student 19. 10/10/10?. Former gymnast and currently a college cheerleader (confirmed on school web page). She's a plane ride away from DC, but her class schedule and mine will enable weekly meetings. She's happy with less than $1k / mo also. Her limberness alone is grounds to make her an ATF. Meeting in two weeks.
Rotation.
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Korean nerd. 8/8/9/10. I met her on AFF about 5 years ago when I lived on the west coast and was single. She reconnected with me about a month ago, and is moving to DC. She's the most drama free woman I've known. A great little shag.
AA staffer. 10/10/8/8. Haven't seen her much due to both of our schedules. Even when her boss is out of town, the woman can't stop working.
KAL. 10/9/8/8. My Korean American princess (gyopo for those of you that can sling hangul) has been nothing but drama. Thank god she doesn't fly the IAD route. I've known her since before my current warden, and her current drama reminds me why I didn't marry her. She's on the injured reserve.
Retired.
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My native american accountant MILF informed me she was retiring from extra-curricular activities this summer. A true loss.
The banker has become a chat-bot. She only pops onto chat now and then, and doesn't have time to meet.
[QUOTE=Marcus Weiner; 1866795]It seems like I may be losing one of my regular girls in the rotation. SB 1, my tall blonde in her late 30's. She is my ATF, but has a tendency to be kind of flaky. She will text me at 9pm and tell me she's coming over, but after an hour goes by (her distance to me) and nothing, my text messages yield nothing. Then, all of a sudden, after I'm in bed at 2 or 3am, she'll say she's almost there. It's happened the last couple of times we've hooked up, and is kind of fun, since she'll just ask me to leave the back door open and will slip into bed naked with me. We end up fucking until my alarm goes off at 6:30 for work, but then I'm a zombie all day. Night before last, she was supposed to come up and totally flaked on me. I kept waking up expecting a text or for her to just come in through the back door, but nothing. The next day she apologized and said she had a migraine. Then last evening she sends me a text that she wants to see me. Now since I had already scheduled time with SB 3, the Brazilian married MILF for this morning, I told her that I wasn't feeling well and we'd have to reschedule. What began as concern for my feigned illness, alluded to attitude and disbelief.
I am a terrible liar, but I don't need SB drama. I'm hoping that I can get SB 1 to be more responsible, with respect to my time. She always has an excuse, from flat tires to running out of gas, but as my money gets tighter, I may have to cut her loose too.
MW[/QUOTE]MW,
Forgive me for saying, but this one has Nando 1 written all over her. If she is not fully there, she will be soon. Don't get me wrong, no one loves a Flaky Baby Challenge more than me, but there comes a time when I just cut my losses and move on. If she earns her place back in the rotation at a later date, so be it, but for me at least play time is hard to come by, and I can't hold slots open for no-shows.
Cut her loose, and let her know why, and leave it up to her to fix the situation or not. I forget who said it, but a brother in the club said you can't push on a string. Golf, was that you?
Onward,
Scott
Not much to report. I currently only have one baby, the former escort. I thought she could be my goto girl since I haven't had much time to look for anyone else. But this is really turning out to be a dud.
I booked a room at a really nice resort. The whole date seemed oddly unromantic, like a couple that had been together too long. I guess the honeymoon is long over. The sex consisted of her laying on her back the entire time. Didn't want to do any other positions or even give me head. Multiples? Forget it. How boring can you get? She even wanted the lights turned out. After she came, she rolled over and promptly fell asleep. She was never a great lay, but she at least used to make some effort. With all the hotel, food, entertainment and "gifts", this was too expensive for a wife experience.
Now she's calling me asking when we can get together again. She's not going to be too happy if I don't give her anything even though if I did that right from the beginning, I'm sure she would be fine with it. But, now I've set a bad precedent. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I have to ask myself, if it's even worth "free"? Maybe not.
Anyhow, I'm going to have to try looking for someone fresh. I did sign up for SD4ME, but didn't get a chance to do anything with it. Got spammed for the first couple of weeks by what looks like a bunch of pros and my month expired. Looks like everything is still functional though.
I am not saying you need a stable, but you definitely need two have to or three in the rotation.
BT.
[QUOTE=Igor Mongorsky; 1867054]Not much to report. I currently only have one baby, the former escort. I thought she could be my goto girl since I haven't had much time to look for anyone else. But this is really turning out to be a dud.
I booked a room at a really nice resort. The whole date seemed oddly unromantic, like a couple that had been together too long. I guess the honeymoon is long over. The sex consisted of her laying on her back the entire time. Didn't want to do any other positions or even give me head. Multiples? Forget it. How boring can you get? She even wanted the lights turned out. After she came, she rolled over and promptly fell asleep. She was never a great lay, but she at least used to make some effort. With all the hotel, food, entertainment and "gifts", this was too expensive for a wife experience.
Now she's calling me asking when we can get together again. She's not going to be too happy if I don't give her anything even though if I did that right from the beginning, I'm sure she would be fine with it. But, now I've set a bad precedent. I'm not sure what I'm going to do. I have to ask myself, if it's even worth "free"? Maybe not.
Anyhow, I'm going to have to try looking for someone fresh. I did sign up for SD4ME, but didn't get a chance to do anything with it. Got spammed for the first couple of weeks by what looks like a bunch of pros and my month expired. Looks like everything is still functional though.[/QUOTE]
So finally had lunch with MsCoolSlim. She is a delightful young lady. A little skinnier that I prefer, but very pretty. I have not decided if I am going to continue as she does not have her own place yet as she had to move back home after some major changes in her life.
MsPreLaw cancelled our Wed date and has been radio silence ever since.
My new fav MsLilMana and I have seen each other 3 times this week. She is 29 and just really getting started out on her own. She has her own place but did not have any bedroom furniture. Maybe this is why we do it on the couch. It took a minute for this info to come out. So yesterday I found a full set minus box spring and mattress for $$$. It included HB, FB, rails, dresser, armoire, desk and chair and two night stands. I picked up and delivered. You can imagine her excitement. She showed her appreciation later after dinner.
I was able to get my ATF to break up with me. She wanted exclusivity, lived too far away, was not very passionate and just became too much for where I am now in my life.
I am working on getting rid of MsNurseBooty. Her schedule is not working for me and I have lost interest for a number of reasons.
Talked with a really pretty pot from AF. 29 AA slim with big boobs. Her requirements are very low as she just wants spending money and attention. We are going out on Sun. I am looking forward to it. She has #1 spot potential.
I had another Pot, AA. 33, tall, with big boobs. She started at 2k per month, but was willing to discuss less. She was also very pretty. I had to put her on pause because I am not ready for a relationship that takes all my suga budget.
BigTigg
All of a sudden my ATF #1 who I was madly in love with for over 1 year popped up on FB. She did not contact me but for some reason some of her pics are available to me so at least I can see how she looks now. I guess it is a glitch in the posting but I'm not complaining. I will maintain radio silence and just enjoy the memories since I don't want her to bolt and go deeper again. If she called I would be sorely tempted to ruin my life LOL. Interestingly, she is by far the least attractive of my 4 sequential ATFs but maybe because she was my first emotional SB connection she is the strongest.
Scottie, I know you can identify with that 1st one. What became of your 1st? I get the list confused. Is she the one who is moving to NY?
I sorely miss the excitement and challenge of bedding the newbies my friends. It's only been a week but It is weird not to be working up a new conquest. You can't beat that 1st penetration of a new fresh pussy.
[QUOTE=FredMoore; 1867432]All of a sudden my ATF #1 who I was madly in love with for over 1 year popped up on FB. Interestingly, she is by far the least attractive of my 4 sequential ATFs but maybe because she was my first emotional SB connection she is the strongest.
Scottie, I know you can identify with that 1st one. What became of your 1st? I get the list confused. Is she the one who is moving to NY?[/QUOTE]Fred,
My #1 ATF reappeared a year almost to the day of her dumping me, and we had a great 5 hour reunion. No sex, but the old connection was instantly there again, as if no time had gone by. Since then, however, we have not been able to schedule a second get together, and I actually had come to grips with the idea that she had disappeared again, but I got a long text from her yesterday and it seems we are back on, at least back on trying to find a time to get together. For a partially employed salesperson, she has a very full schedule LOL! Honestly, I alternate between remembering how it used to be with her, and thinking that it can never be the same.
No, sadly it is ATF #2 who is moving to NY. I had a very wonderful, bittersweet lunch with her yesterday, and we are going to keep in touch as best we can. I will fly her back as her schedule allows, but the job she is taking really has no set hours or days, so I am guessing that for the first little while, she will not have many days free in a row. I am already missing her, and she hasn't left yet!
Ah, the pains of emotional attachment.
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1867499]No, sadly it is ATF #2 who is moving to NY. I had a very wonderful, bittersweet lunch with her yesterday, and we are going to keep in touch as best we can. I will fly her back as her schedule allows, but the job she is taking really has no set hours or days, so I am guessing that for the first little while, she will not have many days free in a row. I am already missing her, and she hasn't left yet!
Ah, the pains of emotional attachment.[/QUOTE]Exactly so.
I don't regret a second of what happened with my girl, and it ended as well as could be expected, but damn, it's painful when it's over. Fortunately, it was typically her: no drama, no histrionics, no dwelling.