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[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3289260]And yet you don't, but maybe you do! Did you know that LE cannot let anyone go with promises to help them to reduce charges or delete charges without the written consent of the prosecutor? LE will lie and say whatever they can to get you to turn over your info at the time of the actual bust / sting. But NO deals can be made that will stand up in a court of law unless the prosecutor is in the room with them making a deal for each individual. The arresting officers can tell you a deal is made, they can pretend a deal is made, but no deal can be made without the written consent of prosecutor. They can let you go, and sometimes do because there isn't enough evidence to pursue charges. That night at least three ladies were arrested and booked at the Marion County Jail.

So now back to your Buddy who does contract work, he must be one of the arresting officers or someone in the room after the bust because some of your details are pretty damn accurate. All the details less the fact that they let them go. So now maybe we all need to be a little careful of you.

Have a good day![/QUOTE]Thoughts. I posted something similar yesterday but A2 possibly didn't like how it may of been worded. My apologies. It had the same exact thoughts as you did FF and this was coming from a guy if you look at his posts that questioned IG123 if he was police.

[QUOTE=Mmgeg;3289449]Thoughts. I posted something similar yesterday but A2 possibly didn't like how it may of been worded. My apologies. It had the same exact thoughts as you did FF and this was coming from a guy if you look at his posts that questioned IG123 if he was police.[/QUOTE]Have a right to remain silent and ask for an attorney. Ask if you are under arrest If not then state I have a right to remain silent. Either charge me and let me make my phone call or release me. They will try to tell you you are "obstructing" an official investigation. Again I have a right to remain silent that is all I am going to say Then say nothing from that point on. Believe nothing they tell you or promise you. The law has ruled the police can lie to you and it is legal. Need anyone say more? NOPE!

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3289260]And yet you don't, but maybe you do! Did you know that LE cannot let anyone go with promises to help them to reduce charges or delete charges without the written consent of the prosecutor? LE will lie and say whatever they can to get you to turn over your info at the time of the actual bust / sting. But NO deals can be made that will stand up in a court of law unless the prosecutor is in the room with them making a deal for each individual. The arresting officers can tell you a deal is made, they can pretend a deal is made, but no deal can be made without the written consent of prosecutor. They can let you go, and sometimes do because there isn't enough evidence to pursue charges. That night at least three ladies were arrested and booked at the Marion County Jail.

So now back to your Buddy who does contract work, he must be one of the arresting officers or someone in the room after the bust because some of your details are pretty damn accurate. All the details less the fact that they let them go. So now maybe we all need to be a little careful of you.

Have a good day![/QUOTE]What always burns my ass is the "I know someone" crap, or the "I'm a _ story. If you know something, back it up with facts, not the mysterious, unproven link to authority. I happen to know the head librarian at Harvard University, if she's still there, if you can count about 10 hours spent around someone as knowing them. This doesn't make me an expert on books.

FF just stated basic facts. You could go to a library and verify these things. You could even go to the Harvard University Library to verify these things.

If the head Librarian is a stocky middle-aged woman with a German accent, tell her the guy who moved her there from Iowa says hello.

Superfun.

Thank you for letting the forum know of the sting and the people that might be compromised. It would only be prudent to be cautious of the area and individuals even if it isn't the case.

Ignore anyone that says otherwise. It sounds like one of their acquaintances ran into some trouble and they're covering for them for some reason.

[QUOTE=FreckleFreak;3289260]And yet you don't, but maybe you do! Did you know that LE cannot let anyone go with promises to help them to reduce charges or delete charges without the written consent of the prosecutor? LE will lie and say whatever they can to get you to turn over your info at the time of the actual bust / sting. But NO deals can be made that will stand up in a court of law unless the prosecutor is in the room with them making a deal for each individual. The arresting officers can tell you a deal is made, they can pretend a deal is made, but no deal can be made without the written consent of prosecutor. They can let you go, and sometimes do because there isn't enough evidence to pursue charges. That night at least three ladies were arrested and booked at the Marion County Jail.

So now back to your Buddy who does contract work, he must be one of the arresting officers or someone in the room after the bust because some of your details are pretty damn accurate. All the details less the fact that they let them go. So now maybe we all need to be a little careful of you.

Have a good day![/QUOTE]Freckle Freak you sure act like you know a lot about the law for someone who's supposed to be a hobbyist. I don't have a law degree, nor did I stay at a holiday Inn, but I believe my buddy. Here's my question to you. The only way you can check on a person who was arrested was by their name. How'd you get names?

Makes me think you seriously might have a connection or you are a mole. How you know it was three girls. Nobody ever said how many girls on any post. The only thing I put on here is what my buddy saw which was two girls being let go, because he was out in front getting out his HVAC equipment when uncle was out. You can't bs me when you on here talking about all that stuff. I want you to answer for the room and tell us how you know it was three girls. <=Drop's Mic.

Here's one of the girls they let go. My buddy swears on it.

[URL]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/a-perfect-substitution-sara-is-back-in-indy/19933072[/URL]

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3289721]Superfun.

Thank you for letting the forum know of the sting and the people that might be compromised. It would only be prudent to be cautious of the area and individuals even if it isn't the case.

Ignore anyone that says otherwise. It sounds like one of their acquaintances ran into some trouble and they're covering for them for some reason.[/QUOTE]Since my I.Q. Is just below 140, you'll have to explain to me how any one of us could be covering for someone by pointing out misleading information. Apparently my pea sized brain isn't capable of processing something that complex. I'm just dying to know.

Kyussfan.

[QUOTE=SuperFun;3286233]HE speaks the truth. I got a buddy who does contract work. He told me uncle had bags of phones and cash. He said a couple of them got let go. A skinny white who looks like she uses H. The other was an older white grandmother looking girl w tats on her tit and leg w / short blonde hair and glasses. He said she got in Mercedes after being interviewed. The H- girl got in white new ford pickup w some thug. Be careful cause uncle never lets you go unless you work for them.[/QUOTE]The sting did occur. That is a fact. Now we get posts with so many "facts" that are either completely false or very questionable. First is the let them go story. That has already been hit on by a couple people so I won't repeat it. A bag of cash and phones? There were three ladies picked up. That must be an awfully small bag or some damn huge smart phones. A buddy who works contract work? Several know when this all occured and for contractors to still be there working, they must be getting like triple time for those hours of the night.

And it is not a surprise that Anon-ymous people would happen to come into this to comment.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.

[QUOTE=Kyussfan;3289806]Since my I.Q. Is just below 140, you'll have to explain to me how any one of us could be covering for someone by pointing out misleading information. Apparently my pea sized brain isn't capable of processing something that complex. I'm just dying to know.

Kyussfan.[/QUOTE]If this were simply pointing out inaccurate information it wouldn't be an issue.

Attempting to dissuade fellow members from posting pertinent information on a sting is something that I believe is inappropriate in any context.

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3289887]If this were simply pointing out inaccurate information it wouldn't be an issue.

Attempting to dissuade fellow members from posting pertinent information on a sting is something that I believe is inappropriate in any context.[/QUOTE](Sigh) Man I always think they maybe just maybe you would change instead of stirring up shit. This WAS about pointing out inaccurate Information.

The fact was already established that a sting happened at that location. The fact is that there were 3 ladies that were arrested. The 2 ladies that he referenced to and stated that they got into vehicles and drove off is false.

What was questioned is the detailed information he was giving. The " bags" of phones for 3 people? The details of where one lady had a tattoo? His " friend " had to be REAL upfront and personal to get that detailed. If YOU actually read his previous postings you would understand why people feel the way they do.

NOW. NO ONE has dissuaded ANYONE from posting pertinent information and especially if it came to safety. That's what this site is for correct? I would not want anyone in trouble (providers or members) including you BUT when there is INACCURATE information it needs to be corrected. If you can't see after reading SUPER FAN's previous postings and see that there may be a red flag with this certain member then I do not know what to tell you.

Don't have to be the black sheep of the family all the time.

[QUOTE=IndyGuy123;3289855]The sting did occur. That is a fact. Now we get posts with so many "facts" that are either completely false or very questionable. First is the let them go story. That has already been hit on by a couple people so I won't repeat it. A bag of cash and phones? There were three ladies picked up. That must be an awfully small bag or some damn huge smart phones. A buddy who works contract work? Several know when this all occured and for contractors to still be there working, they must be getting like triple time for those hours of the night.

And it is not a surprise that Anon-ymous people would happen to come into this to comment.

Sincerely Signed,
The Biggest Prick in the Yard.[/QUOTE]IndyGuy123,

I'm a big boy and I appreciate your concern. Unlike a lot of guys on here I don't get on this every waking hour of the day. Also, this is supposed to be a helpful forum, but some including you want to act like you're still in high-school. Look I'm just putting the information out there and you can take it how you want. At least a few understand where I'm coming from. Indyguy123 I've read your posts and you seem like the most connected guy on here. I'm not going to argue on here, but seriously you spend way too much time trying to discredit people then accept some of the information. -Didn't your mother ever tell you it's not nice to be a bully. (I'm sure I will catch hell for this one too.).

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You seriously need to learn how to use the report post button.

Finger waggen some guy because you think he posted something he shouldn't will only make more people who may have missed it go look for it. Something stops being a thing when people stop talking about it, posting about it makes the thing last longer.

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[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3289887]If this were simply pointing out inaccurate information it wouldn't be an issue.

Attempting to dissuade fellow members from posting pertinent information on a sting is something that I believe is inappropriate in any context.[/QUOTE]I don't think anyone was trying disuade pertinent information, just misinformation. There was nothing wrong with superfan post till the end when he said the older woman was released to her car. The people responding know that's not true. They know because I was the one that went and picked up her car that. So keep just the facts. Not the hearsay.

[QUOTE=IndyAnon;3289887]If this were simply pointing out inaccurate information it wouldn't be an issue.

Attempting to dissuade fellow members from posting pertinent information on a sting is something that I believe is inappropriate in any context.[/QUOTE]Welcome to the School of Reading Comprehension! Today's lesson; how to not see words that were never written. Let's begin.

Let's examine the following excerpt for an attempt "to dissuade fellow members from posting pertinent information on a sting. " Ready?

[QUOTE]And yet you don't, but maybe you do! Did you know that LE cannot let anyone go with promises to help them to reduce charges or delete charges without the written consent of the prosecutor? LE will lie and say whatever they can to get you to turn over your info at the time of the actual bust / sting. But NO deals can be made that will stand up in a court of law unless the prosecutor is in the room with them making a deal for each individual. The arresting officers can tell you a deal is made, they can pretend a deal is made, but no deal can be made without the written consent of prosecutor. They can let you go, and sometimes do because there isn't enough evidence to pursue charges. That night at least three ladies were arrested and booked at the Marion County Jail.

So now back to your Buddy who does contract work, he must be one of the arresting officers or someone in the room after the bust because some of your details are pretty damn accurate. All the details less the fact that they let them go. So now maybe we all need to be a little careful of you.[/QUOTE]Scrap the first sentence and move to the second. It begins with "Did you know", clearly not an attempt to dissuade. Next. "LE will lie. " Nope, a simple declarative statement. The next 3 are just clarifications of the preceding sentence, ending the paragraph with another declarative statement.

The last paragraph is just speculation, an extremely difficult way to dissuade someone from any course of action.

Just to assist you in your progress, here are some examples of "Attempting to dissuade fellow members from posting pertinent information on a sting":

"Don't share pertinent information on a sting".

"Never share pertinent information on a sting".

"If you have pertinent information on a sting, don't share it".

"Always keep pertinent information on a sting away from other members".

"Shut the fuck up, you illiterate, snot-nosed twit. You haven't any fucking idea what you're talking about".

This concludes today's lesson. Don't forget! Tomorrow we have a quiz on "How to pull your head out of your ass".

[I]*The USASG text editor is responsible for the incorrect punctuation of the quoted examples.[/I]

[QUOTE=Jjbee62;3290054]Welcome to the School of Reading Comprehension! Today's lesson; how to not see words that were never written. Let's begin.

Let's examine the following excerpt for an attempt "to dissuade fellow members from posting pertinent information on a sting. " Ready?

Scrap the first sentence and move to the second. It begins with "Did you know", clearly not an attempt to dissuade. Next. "LE will lie. " Nope, a simple declarative statement. The next 3 are just clarifications of the preceding sentence, ending the paragraph with another declarative statement.

The last paragraph is just speculation, an extremely difficult way to dissuade someone from any course of action.

Just to assist you in your progress, here are some examples of "Attempting to dissuade fellow members from posting pertinent information on a sting":

"Don't share pertinent information on a sting".

"Never share pertinent information on a sting".

"If you have pertinent information on a sting, don't share it".

"Always keep pertinent information on a sting away from other members".

"Shut the fuck up, you illiterate, snot-nosed twit. You haven't any fucking idea what you're talking about".

This concludes today's lesson. Don't forget! Tomorrow we have a quiz on "How to pull your head out of your ass".

[I]*The USASG text editor is responsible for the incorrect punctuation of the quoted examples.[/I][/QUOTE]I appreciate you asking the question. It is called "argumentum ad hominem" and it is a common logical fallacy. In the reference that you are referring to it is being used to dissuade forum members from communicating safety issues.

In addition, you are using the same logical fallacy. Does that prove my point?

Thank you. If you have any questions or concerns, please, let me know.

[QUOTE=SuperFun;3289792]Freckle Freak you sure act like you know a lot about the law for someone who's supposed to be a hobbyist. I don't have a law degree, nor did I stay at a holiday Inn, but I believe my buddy. Here's my question to you. The only way you can check on a person who was arrested was by their name. How'd you get names?

Makes me think you seriously might have a connection or you are a mole. How you know it was three girls. Nobody ever said how many girls on any post. The only thing I put on here is what my buddy saw which was two girls being let go, because he was out in front getting out his HVAC equipment when uncle was out. You can't bs me when you on here talking about all that stuff. I want you to answer for the room and tell us how you know it was three girls. <=Drop's Mic.

Here's one of the girls they let go. My buddy swears on it.

[URL]http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/a-perfect-substitution-sara-is-back-in-indy/19933072[/URL][/QUOTE]Let's say this for the 50th time. Your buddies information is Inaccurate!

Do you understand that this board dumbass is combined with lawyers, doctors, nurses, people in politics, educators, IT, Security, media, firefighters, EMT's, hell even people that run a crime page.

For this board to function properly and to make sure people get the correct Information and also make sure that everyone remains safe we do Talk. Some of us talk daily to one another. Why wouldn't we know each other's real names? Hell there is alot of members know my real name and would they give that Info out? NOPE. Do I trust them with it?? Yes. And vice versa also if someone contacts me they are to be verified and if I can't verify who you are, your not coming thru my door. We get Information (Accurate) members will pass it along so others have it.

Now if you would of Read the postings one of the respected members went and picked up one the ladies's car that was arrested so I gather that she may of told how many were arrested in this sting. Let's use our brain shall we?

This is the 2nd respected senior member that you are accusing of being possibly linked to LE when you sir have now 7 posts (really 5 since two postings are double posted) with No reviews and have attacked now 3 members. Umm not a great way to start out on our forum I must say. I will tell you this: Your " Buddies " Information Is Inaccurate " . Also unless your " buddy " is invisible as well as the vehicle he was supposedly taking his " equipment " out of, there was No vehicle in the front of the hotel between the hours of 7:00 pm to midnight. They were limiting the amount of traffic coming into this particular hotel due to the sting that was happening. How would I know this you may ask?

I called the hotel and spoke to someone I know in management and Your information my friend is false. Now let's put all this bullshit aside and why don't you just come clean. Because one of your little details let it be known that there is No way you would know or your " little friend " would know unless you or your " little friend " were in the room and that my friend is a Fact.

You see let me tell you something about Indy's forum.

We will research the crap out of things that are posted to make Sure the information is Accurate. We Watch For Our Own (Drop the mic).

BTW. The provider that you posted a pic is a well respected and reptuable provider. Might want to get your facts in check before you start accusing people of things.

[blue]You do realize that he only does it for attention and you're giving him what he's looking for for free.

He doesn't care what you write, he only cares that you're writing it.

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