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[QUOTE=Masw980;5408378]Are you talking about a deposit? If so I never do them. If she asked for a deposit I won't contact her again. Be safe.[/QUOTE]The only time I give a deposit is to one of the more professional Ladies to visit if they are out of town. It builds trust and I have never been disappointed. I realize getting taken can happen, but with one of the more reputable professionals I am willing to take that risk.
I miss the Scorps and Ev days.
It beyond frustrating and just not right.
CUrleyS was at the Motel 6 on Plainfield, won't go there so we agreed on Car Date, she told me to meet at the Speedway.
Across the street at 9:30 showed up 9:25 sent text and Nothing, I received a text 15 minutes later saying it would be awhile the Front Desk needed to talk to her what BS, she was with another Client, just more BS and Lies, I am one of her Regulars BTW.
Done with CS for good, OK NEXT, I contacted LSH no problem said she was available she said come on out so I jumped in my car headed to Coopersville Like before she said give a call when I'm close. Guess what Crickets Her phone was off and she did not answer any of my Text, I drove from Kentwood area.
I'm sure LSH will say she fell asleep they like to use that one alot. Haha.
So tired of these ladies not respecting our time I don't feel bad at all when clients do this to them.
What goes around comes around, I'm done giving them the benefit of the doubt and my $ they don't deserve it.
Don't waste your time with LSH or CS time wasters.
I used to be a CS regular. Started having issues like you describe then had a drug fueled nightmare appt. With her and I was done with her.
[QUOTE=ApsGuy;5417035]I miss the Scorps and Ev days.
It beyond frustrating and just not right.
CUrleyS was at the Motel 6 on Plainfield, won't go there so we agreed on Car Date, she told me to meet at the Speedway.
Across the street at 9:30 showed up 9:25 sent text and Nothing, I received a text 15 minutes later saying it would be awhile the Front Desk needed to talk to her what BS, she was with another Client, just more BS and Lies, I am one of her Regulars BTW.
Done with CS for good, OK NEXT, I contacted LSH no problem said she was available she said come on out so I jumped in my car headed to Coopersville Like before she said give a call when I'm close. Guess what Crickets Her phone was off and she did not answer any of my Text, I drove from Kentwood area.
I'm sure LSH will say she fell asleep they like to use that one alot. Haha.
So tired of these ladies not respecting our time I don't feel bad at all when clients do this to them.
What goes around comes around, I'm done giving them the benefit of the doubt and my $ they don't deserve it.
Don't waste your time with LSH or CS time wasters.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=ApsGuy;5417035]I miss the Scorps and Ev days.
It beyond frustrating and just not right.
CUrleyS was at the Motel 6 on Plainfield, won't go there so we agreed on Car Date, she told me to meet at the Speedway.
Across the street at 9:30 showed up 9:25 sent text and Nothing, I received a text 15 minutes later saying it would be awhile the Front Desk needed to talk to her what BS, she was with another Client, just more BS and Lies, I am one of her Regulars BTW.
Done with CS for good, OK NEXT, I contacted LSH no problem said she was available she said come on out so I jumped in my car headed to Coopersville Like before she said give a call when I'm close. Guess what Crickets Her phone was off and she did not answer any of my Text, I drove from Kentwood area.
I'm sure LSH will say she fell asleep they like to use that one alot. Haha.
So tired of these ladies not respecting our time I don't feel bad at all when clients do this to them.
What goes around comes around, I'm done giving them the benefit of the doubt and my $ they don't deserve it..[/QUOTE]Do any of you ever stop to think what our schedules look like as providers? Most of us work 24/7 365 days a year in order to survive. I can't speak for anybody else but personally I don't do any drugs and I genuinely have overslept a couple different times. It's not like I did it on purpose. Mongers call us all hours of the night, when we don't make any money during the day we have to be up all night long trying to get enough money to pay the room and cover basic expenses for the day. It leads to a very erratic schedule. Don't blame the providers because mongers have them up all hours of the night. And 98% of mongers who call us are complete fakes so we have to sift and sort through that. On average, at any one point in time, we are texting anywhere from 5 to 20 people all at one time. From there, we have to discern who is real and who is trying to waste our valuable resources that we do not have to waste. Each of these conversations could have anywhere from 20 to 50 messages depending on how much the guy is trying to play with you. In a whole day, we might talk to 100 people or more depending on the day.
Not trying to justify for curly Sue or Lakeshore honey but I feel that mongers should be aware that us providers go through a lot just to continue providing. We get Raped, Robbed, Beaten, Attacked by Your Dogs, Spit on, Ostracized, Ridiculed, Murdered, Drugged, Kidnapped and various other occupational Hazards.
[QUOTE=AdorableRose;5417582]Do any of you ever stop to think what our schedules look like as providers? Most of us work 24/7 365 days a year in order to survive. I can't speak for anybody else but personally I don't do any drugs and I genuinely have overslept a couple different times. It's not like I did it on purpose. Mongers call us all hours of the night, when we don't make any money during the day we have to be up all night long trying to get enough money to pay the room and cover basic expenses for the day. It leads to a very erratic schedule. Don't blame the providers because mongers have them up all hours of the night. And 98% of mongers who call us are complete fakes so we have to sift and sort through that. On average, at any one point in time, we are texting anywhere from 5 to 20 people all at one time. From there, we have to discern who is real and who is trying to waste our valuable resources that we do not have to waste. Each of these conversations could have anywhere from 20 to 50 messages depending on how much the guy is trying to play with you. In a whole day, we might talk to 100 people or more depending on the day.
Not trying to justify for curly Sue or Lakeshore honey but I feel that mongers should be aware that us providers go through a lot just to continue providing. We get Raped, Robbed, Beaten, Attacked by Your Dogs, Spit on, Ostracized, Ridiculed, Murdered, Drugged, Kidnapped and various other occupational Hazards.[/QUOTE]It's a pretty simple business concept though. Make an appointment, agree on a time, and be available at the time you agreed on. ESPECIALLY if it's your regular. Want to know why some of the best providers are the best? They don't flake and they don't over promise and under deliver. Customer Service in every sector of business goes a long way. The women in this town have none. It's pitiful.
[QUOTE=JimmyChap;5418352]It's a pretty simple business concept though. Make an appointment, agree on a time, and be available at the time you agreed on. ESPECIALLY if it's your regular. Want to know why some of the best providers are the best? They don't flake and they don't over promise and under deliver. Customer Service in every sector of business goes a long way. The women in this town have none. It's pitiful.[/QUOTE]If everything ran like it should it seems pretty simple.
1. Make appointment show up on time and it's go time, and leave on time, unless requested to stay longer But, what if monger is late, or stays late, he's a regular so provider has to be careful how she handles it. Usually it pushes her timetable back and she's rushed to get ready for next guy. Or she's reported as being unprofessional, unorganized, lack of communication etc.
2. Airlines (Not exactly known for customer service, but nevertheless large Corp business) overbook all the time. Why? Because of no shows. In the airlines case they get paid if the seat is empty, in the case of providers no show mean no dough. With the amount of no shows I would double book. Lose a booking and possibly money to pay for room and hit the streets or double book. The risk is too great not to book.
3. The drugs. Ok drugs make a person unpredictable. Book at your own risk.
Hate being ghosted, hasn't happened lately but I've been sticking to one person that is great for keeping appointments for me. I can't speak for others. However, I can see both sides to this issue. My sympathies go with providers, because they are living so close to the edge, which trumps my wasted time. Most of the time there was a plan b in place.
[QUOTE=AdorableRose;5417582]Do any of you ever stop to think what our schedules look like as providers? Most of us work 24/7 365 days a year in order to survive. I can't speak for anybody else but personally I don't do any drugs and I genuinely have overslept a couple different times. It's not like I did it on purpose. Mongers call us all hours of the night, when we don't make any money during the day we have to be up all night long trying to get enough money to pay the room and cover basic expenses for the day. It leads to a very erratic schedule. Don't blame the providers because mongers have them up all hours of the night. And 98% of mongers who call us are complete fakes so we have to sift and sort through that. On average, at any one point in time, we are texting anywhere from 5 to 20 people all at one time. From there, we have to discern who is real and who is trying to waste our valuable resources that we do not have to waste. Each of these conversations could have anywhere from 20 to 50 messages depending on how much the guy is trying to play with you. In a whole day, we might talk to 100 people or more depending on the day.
Not trying to justify for curly Sue or Lakeshore honey but I feel that mongers should be aware that us providers go through a lot just to continue providing. We get Raped, Robbed, Beaten, Attacked by Your Dogs, Spit on, Ostracized, Ridiculed, Murdered, Drugged, Kidnapped and various other occupational Hazards.[/QUOTE]I've had many providers tell me about these things you describe. But many of us here are regulars of the girl we report on. If I see you weekly, as I currently do with a few providers, I expect to be treated a little better with respect to keeping dates. To some degree as a weekly client I am paying a salary of sorts she can count on. After countless dates she already knows I never no show a date and if I can't make it I always communicate well in advance to reschedule. She already knows I'm not playing with her or wasting her time. So yes, when a provider I've seen weekly starts jacking me around time after time with not being ready on time or ghosting me I eventually drop her.
[QUOTE=Monger01;5419272]I've had many providers tell me about these things you describe. But many of us here are regulars of the girl we report on. If I see you weekly, as I currently do with a few providers, I expect to be treated a little better with respect to keeping dates. To some degree as a weekly client I am paying a salary of sorts she can count on. After countless dates she already knows I never no show a date and if I can't make it I always communicate well in advance to reschedule. She already knows I'm not playing with her or wasting her time. So yes, when a provider I've seen weekly starts jacking me around time after time with not being ready on time or ghosting me I eventually drop her.[/QUOTE]Yes, it's totally unacceptable when your a Regular and these providers do this, especially when you never did a no show to them.
Always Excuses, Common Excuses.
They say sorry I fell asleep, or my Phone died or a Family.
Member showed up, 9 out of 10 times they do this because a weekly Regular Called.
Providers need to be honest and just let us know, especially when I spend $$$ on my regulars a week, and especially when you drive over a half hour and it's a Confirmed appointment. At that point it's time to take our $$$ someplace else which I always do.
I have no problem walking away from a regular that does me wrong, if more of us did this the nonsense would end
I have not talked to P10 since they where arrested.
However, it looks like "he" is getting around accordingly to Facebook.
Anyone have an update?
[QUOTE=Monger01;5419272]I've had many providers tell me about these things you describe. But many of us here are regulars of the girl we report on. If I see you weekly, as I currently do with a few providers, I expect to be treated a little better with respect to keeping dates. To some degree as a weekly client I am paying a salary of sorts she can count on. After countless dates she already knows I never no show a date and if I can't make it I always communicate well in advance to reschedule. She already knows I'm not playing with her or wasting her time. So yes, when a provider I've seen weekly starts jacking me around time after time with not being ready on time or ghosting me I eventually drop her.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have said it better myself, agree 100%.
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;5427683]I have not talked to P10 since they where arrested.
However, it looks like "he" is getting around accordingly to Facebook.
Anyone have an update?[/QUOTE]I'll go out on a limb and guess he may be cooperating with the authorities and may have been for a length of time.
[QUOTE=WildThing616;5429127]I'll go out on a limb and guess he may be cooperating with the authorities and may have been for a length of time.[/QUOTE]I don't think you're going out on a limb.
I've been thinking that since day one when he wasn't charged with anything.
He hasn't posted anything since 2/26/2019.
I'm sure I missed the update at some point. DId this site give up on rebooting the classifieds site?
What search site or what is it you use to search provider pictures to see if they are listed anywhere else? I have tried Google lens but that don't work real well.
Google works pretty well. Just remember to search all the pics you find because it's not perfect. The mechanism is slightly different from PC browser or smart phone browser. Look at tip #3 in the Newbie Guide Research post for guidance:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide&p=4528149&viewfull=1#post4528149[/URL]
Also, there is a clunky feature on this site where you can look for pics that mongers have recently posted in reviews. I find it useful:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide&p=4607716&viewfull=1#post4607716[/URL]
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;5452278]What search site or what is it you use to search provider pictures to see if they are listed anywhere else? I have tried Google lens but that don't work real well.[/QUOTE]
I just got done looking through Detroit, Saginaw and kalamazoo I have to say GR is the best when it comes to sharing information, links and photos. I was hoping to maybe take a drive and try someone new. I am second guessing this now because of the lack of reviews and no links.
We have the equipment and lights. Looking for a woman with some sense of video to handle the manual cam while fixed cams are on tripods.
It’s a paid gig
Is anyone a premium member of this review website? If so, I'd like a little info about the ladies being reviewed. It would appear to be geared toward the high end service providers.
Thanks.
[QUOTE=BigT0501;5469938]Is anyone a premium member of this review website? If so, I'd like a little info about the ladies being reviewed. It would appear to be geared toward the high end service providers.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]I pay the cost of becoming a premium member and now you want me to just pass along any info you seek for free?
[QUOTE=Moonglow913;5470169]I pay the cost of becoming a premium member and now you want me to just pass along any info you seek for free?[/QUOTE]Wrong assumption genius. All I was trying to understand was whether the ladies posting or being reviewed were high end providers. GR rarely gets $500+ providers with the exception of Debra Hollander and she isn't anywhere near the quality of what I'm seeing out on this site.
Doesn't make sense to get a premium membership if all the ladies being reviewed are in Chicago, LA or NYC.
[QUOTE=BigT0501;5470853]Wrong assumption genius. All I was trying to understand was whether the ladies posting or being reviewed were high end providers. GR rarely gets $500+ providers with the exception of Debra Hollander and she isn't anywhere near the quality of what I'm seeing out on this site.
Doesn't make sense to get a premium membership if all the ladies being reviewed are in Chicago, LA or NYC.[/QUOTE]Back when I lived in NJ, I use to be a member of TER and found it it to be worthwhile paying the premium rate as its pretty much a good place to check the reviews on ordinary ladies advertising their services and reliability etc (I stopped using it the premium service when I went back to the UK in 2016) On returning to the US and living in Michigan, the whole escort picture change due to shutting down of Craigslist and other sites where girls advertised services. I just took another look at TER website for Grand Rapids, and a lot of the reviews on there are girls who advertise on STG at what we would the call the normal rate for the area. Hope this helps with decision.
[QUOTE=BigT0501;5470853]Wrong assumption genius. All I was trying to understand was whether the ladies posting or being reviewed were high end providers. GR rarely gets $500+ providers with the exception of Debra Hollander and she isn't anywhere near the quality of what I'm seeing out on this site.
Doesn't make sense to get a premium membership if all the ladies being reviewed are in Chicago, LA or NYC.[/QUOTE]You don't need a premium membership to see where the girls are from. Some are high end, some aren't. You can see the girls names, and cities for free.
Look at the dates of the reviews. Most are more than three months old. Some are years old. That site is a waste of time.
This sire remains the best.
[QUOTE=BigT0501;5469938]Is anyone a premium member of this review website? If so, I'd like a little info about the ladies being reviewed. It would appear to be geared toward the high end service providers.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]TER was never the same after these events.
[URL]https://www.gawker.com/5014699/theeroticreviewcoms-ceo-off-to-jail[/URL]
This post is 3 Nutz approved.
[QUOTE=ThreeNutz;5471459]TER was never the same after these events.
[URL]https://www.gawker.com/5014699/theeroticreviewcoms-ceo-off-to-jail[/URL]
This post is 3 Nutz approved.[/QUOTE]Holy shit, thanks for sharing this info. I won't be doling out any $ to their site.
Maybe the wrong place to ask but are there any glory hikes or adult theaters in the area? Visiting with a friend and she is a kinky little ****. Would love to watch her get used.
[QUOTE=TheGatDamngobl;5478475]Maybe the wrong place to ask but are there any glory hikes or adult theaters in the area? Visiting with a friend and she is a kinky little ****. Would love to watch her get used.[/QUOTE]The closest one is the Oddessy in Muskegon.
[QUOTE=TheGatDamngobl;5478475]Maybe the wrong place to ask but are there any glory hikes or adult theaters in the area? Visiting with a friend and she is a kinky little ****. Would love to watch her get used.[/QUOTE]Cini Mini on Plainfield, not sure if it's still open.
I have the house to myself all day but I live north of GR. There are allot of providers I would never allow at my place. Are they any that you would trust?
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;5484090]I have the house to myself all day but I live north of GR. There are allot of providers I would never allow at my place. Are they any that you would trust?[/QUOTE]Flower child.
[QUOTE=Benz1;5484344]Flower child.[/QUOTE]Can you pm her digits your mailbox is full Benz.
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;5484407]Can you pm her digits your mailbox is full Benz.[/QUOTE]I was just going to say that.
[QUOTE=Benz1;5479089]Cini Mini on Plainfield, not sure if it's still open.[/QUOTE]No where in the city of GR are there any gloryholes.
Several years ago GR passed a law basically saying all patrons to adult theaters had to be visible by the proprietor at all times except to use the restroom.
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;5484090]I have the house to myself all day but I live north of GR. There are allot of providers I would never allow at my place. Are they any that you would trust?[/QUOTE]Not. A. Single. Damn. One!
[QUOTE=Grizzly27;5484090]I have the house to myself all day but I live north of GR. There are allot of providers I would never allow at my place. Are they any that you would trust?[/QUOTE]None. I have a favorite that I see often when I come up to GR. She actually knows what I do for a living and I know where she works and we talk about our kids all the time. But she still does not know my real name or the exact city I live in and under no circumstances, would I ever let her come to my house.
Hey everyone, I'm going to be in Vegas for a few days, anyone have any recommendations or advice for my first trip there.
[QUOTE=Stb421;5496856]Hey everyone, I'm going to be in Vegas for a few days, anyone have any recommendations or advice for my first trip there.[/QUOTE]I love Vegas!
Avoid:
1. Stay off the internet. Prices will be 100 X more.
2. Don't tell your cabby because they will hook you up with a girl that is 100 X more.
3. Don't call from one of the flyers from the street. The girl will come to the room and ask for 100 X more.
4. Strip has gotten dangerous at night time lately. Careful walking around.
5. You will pay $1000+ for fun at a strip club.
Tips:
1. For a MP find a Burger King or a fast food place that is next to it. Tell the cab you want a ride there and when the cab leaves, go to the MP. The cabs get a commission and the MP passes it onto you.
2. A lot of MP's are closed due to COVID. Call first.
3. Ton's of talent hanging around the casino bar. Negotiate hard there, not in your room.
4. What ever you don't want to spend, put in your safe. Including jewelry, watches, etc. IMPORTANT!
5. The more the stars are on the hotel ranking, the more the date will cost.
5 A. I love Flamingo for girls.
6. For $200, you will have a great time. But I have negotiated down to $100 for a SS.
7. Talent is limited and expensive before Midnight. At 4 AM - 5 AM you will find the best deals.
Good luck!
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;5496978]I love Vegas!
Avoid:
1. Stay off the internet. Prices will be 100 X more.
2. Don't tell your cabby because they will hook you up with a girl that is 100 X more.
3. Don't call from one of the flyers from the street. The girl will come to the room and ask for 100 X more.
4. Strip has gotten dangerous at night time lately. Careful walking around.
5. You will pay $1000+ for fun at a strip club.
Tips:
1. For a MP find a Burger King or a fast food place that is next to it. Tell the cab you want a ride there and when the cab leaves, go to the MP. The cabs get a commission and the MP passes it onto you.
2. A lot of MP's are closed due to COVID. Call first.
3. Ton's of talent hanging around the casino bar. Negotiate hard there, not in your room.
4. What ever you don't want to spend, put in your safe. Including jewelry, watches, etc. IMPORTANT!
5. The more the stars are on the hotel ranking, the more the date will cost.
5 A. I love Flamingo for girls.
6. For $200, you will have a great time. But I have negotiated down to $100 for a SS.
7. Talent is limited and expensive before Midnight. At 4 AM - 5 AM you will find the best deals.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks Balls. Some very good tips, especially about The Flamingo. Mr Boybear.
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;5496978]I love Vegas!
Avoid:
1. Stay off the internet. Prices will be 100 X more.
2. Don't tell your cabby because they will hook you up with a girl that is 100 X more.
3. Don't call from one of the flyers from the street. The girl will come to the room and ask for 100 X more.
4. Strip has gotten dangerous at night time lately. Careful walking around.
5. You will pay $1000+ for fun at a strip club.
Tips:
1. For a MP find a Burger King or a fast food place that is next to it. Tell the cab you want a ride there and when the cab leaves, go to the MP. The cabs get a commission and the MP passes it onto you.
2. A lot of MP's are closed due to COVID. Call first.
3. Ton's of talent hanging around the casino bar. Negotiate hard there, not in your room.
4. What ever you don't want to spend, put in your safe. Including jewelry, watches, etc. IMPORTANT!
5. The more the stars are on the hotel ranking, the more the date will cost.
5 A. I love Flamingo for girls.
6. For $200, you will have a great time. But I have negotiated down to $100 for a SS.
7. Talent is limited and expensive before Midnight. At 4 AM - 5 AM you will find the best deals.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Going to Vegas as well next month. Thanks for your insight. Anything additional from others?
[QUOTE=BluBalls1;5496978]I love Vegas!
Avoid:
1. Stay off the internet. Prices will be 100 X more.
2. Don't tell your cabby because they will hook you up with a girl that is 100 X more.
3. Don't call from one of the flyers from the street. The girl will come to the room and ask for 100 X more.
4. Strip has gotten dangerous at night time lately. Careful walking around.
5. You will pay $1000+ for fun at a strip club.
Tips:
1. For a MP find a Burger King or a fast food place that is next to it. Tell the cab you want a ride there and when the cab leaves, go to the MP. The cabs get a commission and the MP passes it onto you.
2. A lot of MP's are closed due to COVID. Call first.
3. Ton's of talent hanging around the casino bar. Negotiate hard there, not in your room.
4. What ever you don't want to spend, put in your safe. Including jewelry, watches, etc. IMPORTANT!
5. The more the stars are on the hotel ranking, the more the date will cost.
5 A. I love Flamingo for girls.
6. For $200, you will have a great time. But I have negotiated down to $100 for a SS.
7. Talent is limited and expensive before Midnight. At 4 AM - 5 AM you will find the best deals.
Good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks for the tips. I've been checking out the Vegas fourm, not much helpful info there. The grand rapids forum is the best for pics, reports and links. Even in the near by Michigan cities. Gr is the best.