Sometimes, meeting face to face it best, though
[QUOTE=BaltoMan66;4757500]I'm not a fan of negotiating details before meeting in person. I always tell them that chemistry will make both of us try to find something that works. She wanted more, of course. But after meeting for drinks and talking we both felt a vibe. We got to a reasonable number quickly, and frankly I got a bargain![/QUOTE]I'm similar. Probably to a fault, though. You can only do so much over text. I'm usually just clear in my expectations (NSA / Casual) and then try to meet for coffee. I'm clear that I don't pay for coffee dates. I sometimes think that when you meet and talk. . . And if you can flirt a little and make her laugh. . . Perhaps she'll see that it might be fun for her too. . . Then it's a whole lot easier to come up with agreeable expectations on the gifts.
My reply to the online proposal
[QUOTE=Jbunk;4764486]Oh don't get me wrong I have some lined up. I actually know one girl were best buddies! This weekend she might be bringing a friend along! It's going to be good times! I have others lined up too! It's just hard to schedule right now![/QUOTE]I have come across many who in one form or another want to "start" online, with the possibility of moving to real life.
I always tell them that an arrangement is real life. If you want to talk or whatever, that's fine, but you do that with your friends, and you don't get rewarded for it. I won't reward that either. I tell them that I do reward for real arrangements. I describe that a real arrangement is in person, give and take, mutual satisfaction. When they ask for something now I tell them that I don't give away money for nothing, that's not what this site is about. Some ghost, some don't. I'm fine with either response.
The site says no online only anyway, so you can always report them.
The ones who talk want to know what it takes to get an arrangement. Teach them. The ones who ghost are looking for free money, who cares if they ghost.
Just my take on the situation. I have a few possibles ready to meet when things open up a bit, so I'm not worried.
Have fun out there.
Why is Colombianasexyenusa meh?
One man's ground beef is another man's filet.
She's sweet. Likes to fuck. Has serious curves. So what was off, for you?
[QUOTE=Jbunk;4770567]Update. It is the girl in the pics but is a little heavier. Def likes to fuck. Sweet girl. But save yourself a trip and time.[/QUOTE]
Maybe this isn't for you. Really
[QUOTE=Lobsid;4774043]So I meet up with Seaagel a week ago. I got her down to 500, but on the day of our date she said she doesn't feel well. I already book the room and was out $120, because she insisted on meeting in DC. So I bite the bullet and agree to her original $600. She agreed but was 90 minutes late.
Her face is cutie, with small tits which I don't mind. She a little curvy to avg. BBBJ was avg at best, and cfs she wasn't to responsive.
We talk for a little about her sad life, and she asked if she could spend the night in the hotel, because she had to meet a councilor in the morning. She didn't want to spend more money on Lyft. Having a sad heart / newbie I agreed. Well She rake up $48 of extra charges I thought, but on a 2nd look of my statement below it was over $95.
She was my 2nd SA meetup, and lesson learn. You can check out Northern VA SA thread, with other guys she is mostly a no show.[/QUOTE]I saw your note. Lots of issues there, but live and learn right?
But then I see that for some reason you attached a copy of your room bill for anyone to see. While you don't show your name, you're the only person at that hotel, on that day, with that guest number. Now that information is out here. Forever.
You seem pretty open to doing what these ladies want, no matter how unreasonable. That can do you harm. Maybe this isn't for you. It's not going to end well if you continue this way.
Don't let the forum get you down
[QUOTE=Lobsid;4776440]Cut a newbie a break. I normal go for high end escorts, but most of my regular are no longer touring. SA is very new for me. I been treating it like a regular dating site. Lesson learned, at the end of the day they are escorts too. I just get throw off by the fact I made some online friends there that have not ask of monetary compensation.[/QUOTE]Don't let the forum get you down too badly. Based on my experience, you get what you put in. No doubt the scammers and pseudo escorts run amok on SA and all these sugar sites, but if you treat every pot like a straight streetwalker, you're going to get treated like a john.
I remember reading a few posts about brothers shelling out higher amounts initially, gaining trust with a pot, and then having an almost dating type relationship with their SBs. This is what I've found to be the case as well. I agree tho that its the exception to the rule. I routinely let one of my Sbs keep the room after our evenings together. I need to be back home because of my SO, and so if I didn't have a date with one of my side girls the next day, I'd leave a bottle ofvodka in the room and let my Sb hang there with her friends.
That said, I'd never do it on the first FC session, but live and learn.
When you find a good one, you'll go dark from the forum for a while.
I'm currently working my main SB and have two side chicks in rotation. Allowance ranges from $200 - $350. All three are smoking hot.
They are out there. Just got to give it time & a lot of work is all.
I didn't want to discourage him too much.
[QUOTE=Lobsid;4776440]Cut a newbie a break. I normal go for high end escorts, but most of my regular are no longer touring. SA is very new for me. I been treating it like a regular dating site. Lesson learned, at the end of the day they are escorts too. I just get throw off by the fact I made some online friends there that have not ask of monetary compensation.[/QUOTE]Bit I did want to get him thinking honestly about how he does things. I'm not saying there is one way to do things, just saying that an honest self-assessment can help him. If he tends to be so easy going that he can put himself in harm's way, then perhaps he should stop before he actually hurts himself.
If he has a bit more control, he has to truly define what is important. Annonymity, not getting taken for too much cash (he defines that, not us). But it seems to me the most important thing is to be able to disappear. Publicizing personal information makes it harder to disappear. Letting someone you don't know keep your room (first time SB) puts you at risk.
In the end the guys are right, we all started somewhere. I was doing escorts for years before the SB thing blew up. I got pretty lucky, my first SB was kind of reasonable, super hot, and took a while to show her immaturity so that I disappeared on her ass. I knew all along that I wanted some ability to disappear. Fake phone number, fake name, fake facts about parts of my life. I haven't been perfect. I try to do my best.
Just be honest with yourself about what is important to you, and don't let them make you stray too far from protecting yourself.
Otherwise, have fun.
