[QUOTE=MonkeyMonger;4406570]I've made contact and supposed to meet her later in the week. What's her rate. Is bb in the table?[/QUOTE]I would do her with two condoms on. LOL.
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[QUOTE=MonkeyMonger;4406570]I've made contact and supposed to meet her later in the week. What's her rate. Is bb in the table?[/QUOTE]I would do her with two condoms on. LOL.
We are moving to vegas next week.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4407734]We are moving to vegas next week.[/QUOTE]May the road rise to meet you!
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4407843]May the road rise to meet you![/QUOTE]Thanks. BTW, getting a lease agreement there is like a stack of paperwork the likes of which I have never seen. Including a paper that says I will not be selling drugs or promoting prostitution from the said dwelling. The only good thing is, it seems every apt in vegas has a choice of 3, 6 and 12 month leases. Obviously a very transient place.
Also I have now chatted up about a dozen POTS in vegas. I do not see a problem meeting girls there at all. I have read the vegas threads on multiple topics, (sugar, casino girls & my new fascination "latina houses"). Kinda looking forward to meeting some non L.A. girls that might be a little more chill and grateful. The ones I have been talking to so far seem very sweet and nice in general.
I mean it has to be a little harder for a girl to get something steady and local, as most of the big money being spent there is random and from out of towners. Which is great for the girls chasing that money, but impossible for the type of girl that can't or won't do that. Which is the type I am focusing on to the best of my ability.
And the "latina houses" are obviously the best bargain in town with the least amount of drama. I don't habla espanol so not totally sure if I can navigate it. But some of the girls look pretty nice and at .6 to .8 plus .2 for the tip, the rates are AOK for a man in need of a 30 minute diversion. And with no money wasted on a no-tel.
As per to be expected the brothers that are locals and posting are negotiating better rates than the visitors that don't have the time or budgetary constraints to bother with that.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4409156] The only good thing is, it seems every apt in vegas has a choice of 3, 6 and 12 month leases. [/QUOTE]I got to beleive there is one other good thing about the apartments: the rent. It must be a lot lower than LA.
[QUOTE=DogBert77;4409532]I got to beleive there is one other good thing about the apartments: the rent. It must be a lot lower than LA.[/QUOTE]It's the only reason I am moving there.
I may be staying in L. A. or it could all be BS. I may have gotten a job offer I can't refuse. If it comes with an apartment and a two month advance I will stay, otherwise I am gone. I have officially ditched my ATF. So she is not in any of my plans rn. I got 6 POTS in vegas waiting for me to show up, all at a $ and all DTF 18-20 year olds. In the meantime got a date for tomorrow with a freshman at USC on a track scholarship. Not so pretty but a perfect body. And right now that's what I need, something tight to play with.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4412220]In the meantime got a date for tomorrow with a freshman at USC on a track scholarship. Not so pretty but a perfect body. [/QUOTE]Pic of USC freshman or doesn't exists. LOL.
[QUOTE=HapaBoy86;4412231]Pic of USC freshman or doesn't exists. LOL.[/QUOTE]Not at this time. Like most (but not all guys), I only wanna post the pretty girls.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4412220]I may be staying in L. A. or it could all be BS. I may have gotten a job offer I can't refuse. If it comes with an apartment and a two month advance I will stay, otherwise I am gone. I have officially ditched my ATF. So she is not in any of my plans rn. I got 6 POTS in vegas waiting for me to show up, all at a $ and all DTF 18-20 year olds. In the meantime got a date for tomorrow with a freshman at USC on a track scholarship. Not so pretty but a perfect body. And right now that's what I need, something tight to play with.[/QUOTE]Vegas has been great this summer. Hope it lasts looking forward to your posts in Vegas. PS try tinder very active but lot of high priced pros to weed out which I'm not patient enough for maybe I'll try working on that. Been having alot of luck with the pros at your price point.
[QUOTE=Zman429;4412740]Vegas has been great this summer. Hope it lasts looking forward to your posts in Vegas. PS try tinder very active but lot of high priced pros to weed out which I'm not patient enough for maybe I'll try working on that. Been having alot of luck with the pros at your price point.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the tinder advice. I am a total loser at that, but I am slowly working out a profile that is at least getting the hot horny girls to respond. I did a enough re-con to have half a dozen SB's waiting for me to arrive in vegas. On a 1 to 5 scale of amateurs to total pros, I have them across the board, half with really tight bodies. All young of course. Nothing going to be final for a couple more days though. And all at the price point of course.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4412625]Not at this time. Like most (but not all guys), I only wanna post the pretty girls.[/QUOTE]Can't wait for the stories of fucking girls at UNLV on cardcounting scholarships. All non pros, natch.
[QUOTE=PriscillaM;4412989]Can't wait for the stories of fucking girls at UNLV on cardcounting scholarships. All non pros, natch.[/QUOTE]All non pros, natch. (except when they're not)
HER
I am looking for a mutually beneficial relationship I don't do PPM.
ME
I don't mind a MBR but it always starts out as a PPM. That way no one gets committed to anything too fast.
HER
Oh I see. But isn't that in other words prostitution.
ME
IDK. If you pay some one by the week or by the month or by the meet. You are still paying them right? So pay to play is pay to play. So how does the frequency of the payment change the outcome or expectation?
HER
LOL well when you put it that way.
HER
I'm interested in trying it out.
Is the SA app down? I can't seem to find it on android.
Just turned 18. Just created her profile. Snagged her on the first day. She already deleted it by the second day. Doing the M&G Friday. We have it planned as an FC date as the vibe seems pretty good so far. Unless I am mistaken this would be an NP looking for her Daddy. They do exist. She has no clue I am moving. Sad. Because she really seems like a one in a million. I could always move her to vegas if she was my soul mate. Can a 65 year old have a 18 year old soulmate? I think its possible.
Signed my lease and paid my rent today for my apartment in vegas. And of course the SB's in LA are all over me the last two days without me even hitting them up. I have a few girls lined up in vegas and two that look really, really promising. I really can't see myself living there forever. A year or two at most. But I do know I can retire there much easier if I have to. I just can't believe that that is my fate though.
The crazy thing is it could end being a nice second home as the rent there is just insanely low.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4416308]Just turned 18. Just created her profile. Snagged her on the first day. She already deleted it by the second day. Doing the M&G Friday. We have it planned as an FC date as the vibe seems pretty good so far. Unless I am mistaken this would be an NP looking for her Daddy. They do exist. She has no clue I am moving. Sad. Because she really seems like a one in a million. I could always move her to vegas if she was my soul mate. Can a 65 year old have a 18 year old soulmate? I think its possible.
Signed my lease and paid my rent today for my apartment in vegas. And of course the SB's in LA are all over me the last two days without me even hitting them up. I have a few girls lined up in vegas and two that look really, really promising. I really can't see myself living there forever. A year or two at most. But I do know I can retire there much easier if I have to. I just can't believe that that is my fate though.
The crazy thing is it could end being a nice second home as the rent there is just insanely low.[/QUOTE]Can't catch a break. Tryin to get 18 and 19 year olds at $. You got to be persistent, and ready to jump at a moments notice. I lost this one, Got cold feet. She was an NP and will stay that way for now, till some other lucky guy talks fer down from her insecurities.
Hey fellas. Live in the Bay Area and travel for work. Travel will soon have me in LA area. I have had great success in Seattle using SA. It was almost too easy. LOL. The same approach has not netted many results in your area. I fully intend on reading many posts to get up to speed. But any advice you can share in the meantime would be helpful. PPM averages would be very helpful (preference does to erratic travel schedule). A lot of GPS it seems like. I also don't want to come and inadvertently set the market price that is too high. Same in the reverse. Are there specific nationalities that tend to show more GPS than others? My soft spot is for Asian and Latina. Does sexual willingness change by nationality? Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4417613]Can't catch a break. Tryin to get 18 and 19 year olds at $. You got to be persistent, and ready to jump at a moments notice. I lost this one, Got cold feet. She was an NP and will stay that way for now, till some other lucky guy talks fer down from her insecurities.[/QUOTE]Amazing that it can be done at all. Kudos to you, particularly given and I mean this only as a compliment, believe me you are evidently a nice sized multiple of their age. (I am your contemporary, I think, but have never come close to your meeting point with anyone college age and cute).
I may just keep hitting up my unicorn unless she blocks me. LOL. In the mean time set a casual date for tonite with this sexy spinner. She say 100% just to get a drink. But never believe that. Anything can and does happen.
[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;4417643]Hey fellas. Live in the Bay Area and travel for work. Travel will soon have me in LA area. I have had great success in Seattle using SA. It was almost too easy. LOL. The same approach has not netted many results in your area. I fully intend on reading many posts to get up to speed. But any advice you can share in the meantime would be helpful. PPM averages would be very helpful (preference does to erratic travel schedule). A lot of GPS it seems like. I also don't want to come and inadvertently set the market price that is too high. Same in the reverse. Are there specific nationalities that tend to show more GPS than others? My soft spot is for Asian and Latina. Does sexual willingness change by nationality? Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]No one person can set or change the market price of pussy anywhere in the world. In L. A. Think $$ for good and $$$ for excellent latina, asian maybe more. Especially if you are in a hurry. Good, fast and cheap. Pick any two out of three.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4417688]I may just keep hitting up my unicorn unless she blocks me. LOL. In the mean time set a casual date for tonite with this sexy spinner. She say 100% just to get a drink. But never believe that. Anything can and does happen.[/QUOTE]I did the M&G with this model thin girl. I was def not what she was looking for. Only 36 hours left in L.A.
Any tips? They banned me a few times even with a prepaid card, it might have been something I said in a msg since they seem to be stricter now? Any anonymous credit cards or something that lets me dispute in case they suspend and don't refund?
[QUOTE=MidnightDabber;4424553]Any tips? They banned me a few times even with a prepaid card, it might have been something I said in a msg since they seem to be stricter now? Any anonymous credit cards or something that lets me dispute in case they suspend and don't refund?[/QUOTE]Do you have an android phone? If so, you can download the app and pay with google play gift card.
[QUOTE=BlueEyedMan58;4417653]Amazing that it can be done at all. Kudos to you, particularly given and I mean this only as a compliment, believe me you are evidently a nice sized multiple of their age. (I am your contemporary, I think, but have never come close to your meeting point with anyone college age and cute).[/QUOTE]I would say in general, at least 25% or more of 18-20 year olds are down to date any age guy. Only a few years from seventy and I do not plan on lying about my age ever. Not yet anyway. And I have my filter set at 18-20.. sometimes I look over to like 21 or 22.. More than that.. too much trouble.
[QUOTE=MidnightDabber;4424553]Any tips? They banned me a few times even with a prepaid card, it might have been something I said in a msg since they seem to be stricter now? Any anonymous credit cards or something that lets me dispute in case they suspend and don't refund?[/QUOTE]If you used a prepaid card then you already have paid anonymously!
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4425087]I would say in general, at least 25% or more of 18-20 year olds are down to date any age guy. Only a few years from seventy and I do not plan on lying about my age ever. Not yet anyway. And I have my filter set at 18-20.. sometimes I look over to like 21 or 22.. More than that.. too much trouble.[/QUOTE]It seems strange, maybe even paradoxical, but I'm getting the sense -- if I read you right -- that the chances of getting a cute 18-22 year old at a reasonable per meet rate are better than the chances of getting that same rate with a 25-35 year old woman, maybe even one not quite so attractive.
[QUOTE=BlueEyedMan58;4426863]It seems strange, maybe even paradoxical, but I'm getting the sense -- if I read you right -- that the chances of getting a cute 18-22 year old at a reasonable per meet rate are better than the chances of getting that same rate with a 25-35 year old woman, maybe even one not quite so attractive.[/QUOTE]This is well know, and easily understood.
The older women (where "older" means mid 20's and up) have usually acquired larger needs and expenses than the younger 18-21 year olds. They have children, school loans, credit card debt, apartments to pay for, whatever.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4427465]This is well know, and easily understood.
The older women (where "older" means mid 20's and up) have usually acquired larger needs and expenses than the younger 18-21 year olds. They have children, school loans, credit card debt, apartments to pay for, whatever.[/QUOTE]I agree the better values are with the younger girls. PussyPumper makes good points, but I think there are a couple of other dimensions to it as well. The really young girls have never had very much money of their own, so a little seems like a lot to them. Perhaps more importantly, they have not yet had the experience of a man spending lots of money on them. By the they are 30, ex's have taken them on vacations, bought them really expensive gifts, etc. , in order to get, or keep getting, into their pants. So their expectations have gone up up even if their "needs" haven't. Thus, ironically, most women's estimation of the value of their pussy goes up over time, even as the value most of us place on it is going down!
Of course, this is a happy coincidence for those of us who like them young. Adding to the serendipity, there is a huge supply from girls who are in college and have pretty urgent needs for cash. In my area, if I run a search with age filter set to 18-25, I get about five items as many hits as if I set it to 26-35. (I would never pay a 35 yo, I just run the search for research purposes!
[QUOTE=DogBert77;4427603]I agree the better values are with the younger girls.....[/QUOTE]Very well put!
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4418063]No one person can set or change the market price of pussy anywhere in the world. In L. A. Think $$ for good and $$$ for excellent latina, asian maybe more. Especially if you are in a hurry. Good, fast and cheap. Pick any two out of three.[/QUOTE]It is probably a little harder to do in LA. It Seattle being so small that if one guy comes in high and sets that expectation especially on a PPM basis it just seems it sets a trend. Whether real or perceived it happened. Thanks for the input.
[QUOTE=BlueEyedMan58;4426863]It seems strange, maybe even paradoxical, but I'm getting the sense -- if I read you right -- that the chances of getting a cute 18-22 year old at a reasonable per meet rate are better than the chances of getting that same rate with a 25-35 year old woman, maybe even one not quite so attractive.[/QUOTE]I would says that is very true.
[QUOTE=PussyPumper;4427465]This is well know, and easily understood.
The older women (where "older" means mid 20's and up) have usually acquired larger needs and expenses than the younger 18-21 year olds. They have children, school loans, credit card debt, apartments to pay for, whatever.[/QUOTE]Not to mention the thrill of seeing a BSD is not the novelty it once was, so finances begin to take center stage.
[QUOTE=IrishGuy1977;4427849]It is probably a little harder to do in LA. It Seattle being so small that if one guy comes in high and sets that expectation especially on a PPM basis it just seems it sets a trend. Whether real or perceived it happened. Thanks for the input.[/QUOTE]I am in vegas now. There are way less girls. More of them go on tinder here. But if you have a good pitch eventually you will find reasonable girls that want more than just the dinero.
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World[/URL]
Moved here.
We'll have to take over from the prolific poster HG to keep this thread alive. So, I recently M&G a 19 YO Latina, after a few days came down w / strep throat. Any other experiences getting standard communicable diseases from SBs?
Been seeing two under 25 sweethearts for a couple months now. One is mind-blowing at BBBJ. She has the sweetest, softest lips I have encountered. The other has an awesome body, perky breasts and a nice round ass. She loves to fuck. She is also a squirter. We hadn't seen each other in a while and over the weekend we texted. She hadn't had any fun in a while and was horny. I said just come over for fun. She drove over, I did anything I wanted for a couple hours and then she kissed me goodnight. No support. If you give them a great time, after a while they sometimes find the experience more rewarding than the donation. I won't do this every time, but good to know she's at that place.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;4437154]Been seeing two under 25 sweethearts for a couple months now. One is mind-blowing at BBBJ. She has the sweetest, softest lips I have encountered. The other has an awesome body, perky breasts and a nice round ass. She loves to fuck. She is also a squirter. We hadn't seen each other in a while and over the weekend we texted. She hadn't had any fun in a while and was horny. I said just come over for fun. She drove over, I did anything I wanted for a couple hours and then she kissed me goodnight. No support. If you give them a great time, after a while they sometimes find the experience more rewarding than the donation. I won't do this every time, but good to know she's at that place.[/QUOTE]I had this happen to me too once, sweet 19 year old black girl who attended CSULA. Had to really fuck her twice to get it. Basically a guy had to reject her pretty hard (what he was on idk this girl was smoking hot), and I had to fuck her the first two times as very hard and as long and as good as possible. Really miss her. Moral of the story: step your game up in that department it does help.
Anyone seen either of these:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e096efd2-fcaf-4e82-99b7-8b312dd473c9[/URL]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a272132-28de-4cb7-9b01-1c0058265f4c[/URL]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/40a218c6-609f-4aae-8a2f-bbd122a2ca09[/URL]
This girl wants at least 10 k a month to be spent on her.