Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Dxddxd;5312987]SA waste time and money. They are most scammers few real.[/QUOTE]I've taken a couple of runs at it but thanks to a mentor (who shall remain nameless) I'm getting smarter.

90% don't really want to give up the bod for money. They have a dream about being a fairy princess with all their bills paid, a nice house, a Ferrari and an old man that shows up occasionally for dinner.

8% get it, but they still want the full sugar daddy thing with GPS and an allowance.

2% are there to fuck and get paid for it. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, and they are indeed selective based on nice guys that are trouble-free and generous more than anything to look at or a great lay.

So you contact 100 interesting profiles and you get 2 that are worth a chat. There's a month of your life.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5313088]I've taken a couple of runs at it but thanks to a mentor (who shall remain nameless) I'm getting smarter.

90% don't really want to give up the bod for money. They have a dream about being a fairy princess with all their bills paid, a nice house, a Ferrari and an old man that shows up occasionally for dinner.

8% get it, but they still want the full sugar daddy thing with GPS and an allowance.

2% are there to fuck and get paid for it. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, and they are indeed selective based on nice guys that are trouble-free and generous more than anything to look at or a great lay.

So you contact 100 interesting profiles and you get 2 that are worth a chat. There's a month of your life.[/QUOTE]Couldn't have explained it any better.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5313088]I've taken a couple of runs at it but thanks to a mentor (who shall remain nameless) I'm getting smarter.

90% don't really want to give up the bod for money. They have a dream about being a fairy princess with all their bills paid, a nice house, a Ferrari and an old man that shows up occasionally for dinner.

8% get it, but they still want the full sugar daddy thing with GPS and an allowance.

2% are there to fuck and get paid for it. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, and they are indeed selective based on nice guys that are trouble-free and generous more than anything to look at or a great lay.

So you contact 100 interesting profiles and you get 2 that are worth a chat. There's a month of your life.[/QUOTE]Nailed it.

[QUOTE=Dxddxd;5312987]SA waste time and money. They are most scammers few real.[/QUOTE]When I first hit SA, I thought so too. With experience and change of approach, weeding out scammers became easy. I'll ask 3-4 questions and know right away if the SB is real and down. Just this past week I got 200 overnights. It's there if you put in the work. Can't beat the selection of fresh girls who's experience level is within a handful of men.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5313088]I've taken a couple of runs at it but thanks to a mentor (who shall remain nameless) I'm getting smarter.

90% don't really want to give up the bod for money. They have a dream about being a fairy princess with all their bills paid, a nice house, a Ferrari and an old man that shows up occasionally for dinner.

8% get it, but they still want the full sugar daddy thing with GPS and an allowance.

2% are there to fuck and get paid for it. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, and they are indeed selective based on nice guys that are trouble-free and generous more than anything to look at or a great lay.

So you contact 100 interesting profiles and you get 2 that are worth a chat. There's a month of your life.[/QUOTE]The percentage of scammers, BS and GPS profiles has increased significantly in the last few months but the percentage of hidden gems is not that low, 2%, definitely it takes more work now but my most recent find is one of the best I had encountered in SA in the 3+ years I have been in the site. I am less inclined now though to look for new SBs as often as I did before because it does take more effort

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5308565]I've used VPN and a visa gift card but nothing has worked to reopen my account. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]You have to strip any metadata from the photo you post- you'll notice they ban you when they review the photo. Strip the metadata EXIF on an iPhone works fine. Then you need a VPN and visa gift card. Use a real address and name for the gift card information and not a celebrity. I just looked up my least favorite Mormon neighbor from high school and fed his info in and it worked.

[QUOTE=WillShookSpear;5313088]2% are there to fuck and get paid for it. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, and they are indeed selective based on nice guys that are trouble-free and generous more than anything to look at or a great lay.

So you contact 100 interesting profiles and you get 2 that are worth a chat. There's a month of your life.[/QUOTE]This is excellent advice as others have said.

Don't get fooled by what pictures they post either. The ones who post a ton of sexy shots are tempting, but are often GPS or Pros. It's easy to gloss over the girls who have a single pic, don't show their face, etc. But they can be the gold mine.

[QUOTE=BoBroBgobs;5311661]Unfortunately, these youtube / tik-tok sugar babies are not wrong. There are guys who do that. I recently talked to an asian chick on SA, not even a hot one, and she was expecting $500+ for just hanging out for a couple of hours and nothing physical other than introductory hugs. When I asked how can you expect that from a guy, she mentioned she had a couple of SDs giving that to her currently and more than 5 others before. When I laughed at it, she just said maybe those SDs just needed a friend.[/QUOTE]I'd say that's bullshit. I did meet a SB from SA and we had a frank chat about stuff. She was also Asian, pretty hot, fit body. She said she started at 18 trying to scam men for free dinners, etc. without sex. She got $50-$100 per meal and told me it wasn't worth the time. So hard to get to that point where a guy will show up and pay you that for dinner. She gave up and started fucking. She had only been with a handful of guys, but said she was taking 300 PPM, anal included.

She did also say there were some weird feet guys on there who would pay for stuff like that without sex, 200 for an hour or two. I believed her stories, she didn't have any illusions about SA after a while, but there are some people on there spending on weird non sex.

[QUOTE=BoBroBgobs;5311661].... I recently talked to an asian chick on SA, not even a hot one, and she was expecting $500+ for just hanging out for a couple of hours and nothing physical other than introductory hugs. When I asked how can you expect that from a guy, she mentioned she had a couple of SDs giving that to her currently and more than 5 others before...[/QUOTE]I've heard that story, or nearly the same story, too many times to believe that it is true. My own belief is that it is a lame negotiating tactic to make you feel cheap for not buying her a Range Rover.

The fact of the matter is that the idea that there are tons of guys out there paying these chicks a small fortune and not getting inside them is about as legit as a Canadian Girlfriend.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5313805]I've heard that story, or nearly the same story, too many times to believe that it is true. My own belief is that it is a lame negotiating tactic to make you feel cheap for not buying her a Range Rover.

The fact of the matter is that the idea that there are tons of guys out there paying these chicks a small fortune and not getting inside them is about as legit as a Canadian Girlfriend.[/QUOTE]I don't fully believe her story either but the fact that she told me that after she knew she had already lost me as a "customer" might mean there are some kernels of truth there.

[QUOTE=IWantHead;5306501]Thanks for pointing that out.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ff969caf-734c-4364-992d-dd24425dc2be[/URL]

Reminder $300 90 min CIM and CIP.[/QUOTE]Nice! Had a German GF for a while. God she was dirty. Check out German porn, put the and in nasty! She had a blond hairy box too. Miss that hot stuff.

[QUOTE=VanDawg;5313725]I'd say that's bullshit. I did meet a SB from SA and we had a frank chat about stuff. She was also Asian, pretty hot, fit body. She said she started at 18 trying to scam men for free dinners, etc. without sex. She got $50-$100 per meal and told me it wasn't worth the time. So hard to get to that point where a guy will show up and pay you that for dinner. She gave up and started fucking. She had only been with a handful of guys, but said she was taking 300 PPM, anal included.

She did also say there were some weird feet guys on there who would pay for stuff like that without sex, 200 for an hour or two. I believed her stories, she didn't have any illusions about SA after a while, but there are some people on there spending on weird non sex.[/QUOTE]LOL. That's TRUE! I has a SB tell me she got multiple guys asking for foot stuff. No sex at all. They would offer 2 to 3 hundred.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c18366a8-7b63-4e5d-a9e8-3459e409911d[/URL]

I normally don't go for girls with 3 kids, but there's something about this goth chick that is really hot.

[QUOTE=Latinxi69;5308565]I've used VPN and a visa gift card but nothing has worked to reopen my account. Any ideas?[/QUOTE]1) You've got to make sure you've searched for cookies in your browser setting. Clear those out or you'll always get denied.

2) Sign up for a virtual credit card on [URL]Privacy.com[/URL]. With Privacy, you can create a single-use card or a merchant card that created a unique credit card number for that merchant and they'll never see your actual card number. This also helps track where your card may have been misused by a service or business. You can set a spending limit on that merchant. The card number is backed by your bank card, but really hard to link back to you.

3) When you sign-up for your new SA account, use a hotspot. This way, your IP is linked there, not directly to regular IP. I'd also consider switching VPN in case they somehow have it flagged.

Finally, don't use the same photo you used before. Don't even use the same profile details. Write a new one.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5308269]Flirtyfunandyum [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3f5bc6b4-7315-451a-84e4-6531231b24b7[/URL].

Contacted me and went right to the "I know my worth" bullshit and wants 8 pm. No, hun, you think you know what you're worth but it's the market that determines value not your inflated ego and greed.[/QUOTE]Though no one has said it to me directly, I'm sure there are probably some who don't find me that attractive, so I'll be honest, I wasn't attracted to her. The large scar on her chin was distracting. Her body is "OK", but she reminds me too much of Sarah Jessica Parker with darker hair. Just doesn't do it for me, even if she was giving it away for free.

I had one of my old SBs send me a Venmo request for money, said she needed to buy food for her kids. I haven't seen her in like a year (maybe longer), but she was a cool chick, so I go on Venmo and send her $100. I have all my transactions on Venmo private, but she didn't.

This is what I saw after I paid her for that day:

X sent why $500 - Message: Tires.

X sent why $150 - Message: Food.

X sent why $300 - Message: Vacation.

She had 9 people that sent her money totaling about $2,000 in one day. That's a fantastic haul, but I realize that I have all of my Venmo transactions on private, so if she had other guys that are like me, then she probably made more than that.

Just something to think about. I don't feel like I wasted my money (I wouldn't have sent it to her if I didn't have it), but I'm going to be more careful about who I send funds to.

[QUOTE=Tippover11;5314262]LOL. That's TRUE! I has a SB tell me she got multiple guys asking for foot stuff. No sex at all. They would offer 2 to 3 hundred.[/QUOTE]Every SB I've had has said she has had several foot dates. I just find that shit creepy.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5314662]I had one of my old SBs send me a Venmo request for money, ...[/QUOTE]You're probably a more decent man than me. I probably would have just ignored her. I learned a long time ago that people are just looking to make as much money as possible for very little work. Granted, grifters and girls in this profession work hard to separate you from your money, with the least effort possible.

Maybe I sound cynical, but I've heard these "save me" pleas a lot. My approach is always about respecting that the relationship is built on agreement of reciprocity.

If she wants Daddy to show her some love, she has to offer the same respect.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5314668]Every SB I've had has said she has had several foot dates. I just find that shit creepy.[/QUOTE]Same. Creepy and gross.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5314662]I had one of my old SBs send me a Venmo request for money, said she needed to buy food for her kids. I haven't seen her in like a year (maybe longer), but she was a cool chick, so I go on Venmo and send her $100. I have all my transactions on Venmo private, but she didn't.

This is what I saw after I paid her for that day:

X sent why $500 - Message: Tires.

X sent why $150 - Message: Food.

X sent why $300 - Message: Vacation.

She had 9 people that sent her money totaling about $2,000 in one day. That's a fantastic haul, but I realize that I have all of my Venmo transactions on private, so if she had other guys that are like me, then she probably made more than that.

Just something to think about. I don't feel like I wasted my money (I wouldn't have sent it to her if I didn't have it), but I'm going to be more careful about who I send funds to.[/QUOTE]Life is on EZ mode having a va jay jay.

I'm hungry. Sent $.

I'm thirsty. Sent $.

I'm shopping. Sent $.

Etc. Damn making bank!

Watch out for XOFoxyXO.

[URL]https://members.whatsyourprice.com/profile/7GBPdRga0r9z8Va5Q2On6DwW[/URL]

For someone who has been reading this site for so long you would think I would have thought better. Contacted me with. 5 first date, ended up pretty much being meet and greet. But seemed like a cool chick. Then over the last week got me to meet once more, but no time for fun. Stupidly sent her money through Venmo. Last 3 times set up dates been no-gos. 1st night was she kept being delayed in traffic, not sure what traffic at 8 pm. 2nd night was she was in the shower, and then her neighbors randomly showed up at 10 pm. And 3rd night was pure ghosted.

All in all lost about $300, but at least she sent me some nice videos.

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5314627][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c18366a8-7b63-4e5d-a9e8-3459e409911d[/URL]

I normally don't go for girls with 3 kids, but there's something about this goth chick that is really hot.[/QUOTE]I can't give you any info, but there are some vids of her here: [URL]https://www.manyvids.com/Profile/178045/ZestyZomBabe/Store/Videos/[/URL].

And more pics: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/zestyzombabe/[/URL].

[QUOTE=IWantHead;5306501]Thanks for pointing that out.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ff969caf-734c-4364-992d-dd24425dc2be[/URL]

Reminder $300 90 min CIM and CIP.[/QUOTE]Saw her yesterday, quite an amazing find. Thank you!

Thanks. What was enough for me to pass.

[QUOTE=Efurufe;5315829]I can't give you any info, but there are some vids of her here:
[URL]https://www.manyvids.com/Profile/178045/ZestyZomBabe/Store/Videos/[/URL].

And more pics:
[URL]https://www.instagram.com/zestyzombabe/[/URL].[/QUOTE]

If only we could find a way to 'suggest' a training guide. [URL]https://www.xvideos.com/video53216631/submissive_tiny_gf_w_perky_tits_gets_dominated_and_mouth_fuck_then_takes_her_bf_big_cock_in_all_her_holes_multiple_orgasms_pussy_and_ass_fucked_with_screaming_anal_cream_pie.[/URL].

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/de42811c-551a-4e3f-b167-cf75f0b041e1[/URL]

Wants 6 k per month LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/10aaaf2f-e268-41fd-af8b-8aa891912c7f[/URL]

Proceed with caution. She encouraged bbfscip so I obliged. Later that night bish started to blow up my phone asking for more money. Told her no then she started to threaten me. I blocked her. She started to send more harassing messages from another number. This went on for a couple of hours so I changed my burner.

Oceansidesugarbaby on SA is a flat out rob. Will take your donation and have her pimp come in and make you get out (he is packing heat).

Avoid at all costs. She's a chubby white with braces, tattoos, nipple piercings, and dark hair.

[QUOTE=FullMetalHelme;5318437]Oceansidesugarbaby on SA is a flat out rob. Will take your donation and have her pimp come in and make you get out (he is packing heat).

Avoid at all costs. She's a chubby white with braces, tattoos, nipple piercings, and dark hair.[/QUOTE]WTF! Was she hosting or kicked you out of the hotel you booked?

Blahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[QUOTE=Bronco62;5317913][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/de42811c-551a-4e3f-b167-cf75f0b041e1[/URL]

Wants 6 k per month LOL.[/QUOTE]

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=558705&d=1578596058[/URL]

Came across this browsing forum pics and I remember talking to her but I didn't go through. Any intel?

[QUOTE=BoBroBgobs;5319046]WTF! Was she hosting or kicked you out of the hotel you booked?[/QUOTE]She was hosting. Travelodge by Wyndham Port in Tacoma / Fife. Beware keep away from the see you. Nt.

Profile: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9bd51f01-4c68-4a16-9d29-210c5a6bc7cf[/URL].

I met her in person and let her scam me for a bit of cash.

She was getting ready in the bathroom for close to and hour.

She is cute enough but definitely a scam.

Her # +1509 xxx8363.

Her 'sisters' #: +1 425-xxx-8049.

Pictures she sent.

[QUOTE=Ash2225;5321286]Profile: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9bd51f01-4c68-4a16-9d29-210c5a6bc7cf[/URL].

I met her in person and let her scam me for a bit of cash.

She was getting ready in the bathroom for close to and hour.

She is cute enough but definitely a scam.

Her # +1509 xxx8363.

Her 'sisters' #: +1 425-xxx-8049.

Pictures she sent.[/QUOTE]So she came to your place and then dashed?

Or was she hosting? Say more how you met but nothing happened?

[QUOTE=Bronco62;5317913][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/de42811c-551a-4e3f-b167-cf75f0b041e1[/URL]

Wants 6 k per month LOL.[/QUOTE]I hope you sent her an appropriate reply.

[QUOTE=FullMetalHelme;5318437]Oceansidesugarbaby on SA is a flat out rob. Will take your donation and have her pimp come in and make you get out (he is packing heat).

Avoid at all costs. She's a chubby white with braces, tattoos, nipple piercings, and dark hair.[/QUOTE]Sorry that happened but thanks for the heads-up. Blocked her in case I forget.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5321783]Sorry that happened but thanks for the heads-up. Blocked her in case I forget.[/QUOTE]She's posted in Tacoma on SA, and her last known phone number area code was 208.

Yeah she dashed.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5321518]So she came to your place and then dashed?

Or was she hosting? Say more how you met but nothing happened?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FullMetalHelme;5318437]Oceansidesugarbaby on SA is a flat out rob. Will take your donation and have her pimp come in and make you get out (he is packing heat).

Avoid at all costs. She's a chubby white with braces, tattoos, nipple piercings, and dark hair.[/QUOTE]Shoot bro. Sorry that happened. Blocked her ass. Not that it matters as I have not been active or used SA for a little over 4-8 weeks now. Work is picking up and some family stuff that requires me to be home more than usual. So have my plate full and am taking a break from SA and TNA. Hoe you are fine FMH. An incident like this would really make me question a lot of things. Most women just have to ask to get a bunch on money from the chumps. Even with lackluster service. Cannot imagine why they would resort to risking their lives and yours for a few hundered dolloars. Terrible.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;5321777]I hope you sent her an appropriate reply.[/QUOTE]Yes, I basically told her that $72,000 a year tax free is way more than hers or any other pussy is worth.