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[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6406158]Tip walk seems to be required at Silk Silver Spring, Heartbreakers and OTB after a girl gets done with her stage rotation. I've never spent enough time at the downtown clubs to know if they do it there or not.
Do some girls go around and "fake" their tip walk, as if they just got off stage but weren't on stage? Maybe. But, if they do, it's rare, or maybe they've just gotten stalled on their tipwalk by a customer engaging them in conversation or whatever. I've seen girls get passed on their tip walks by whoever followed them on stage.
TL; DR, don't be the jerk that won't tip a girl a freakin' dollar on her tip walk. If you aren't interested in engaging with the girl's sales pitch, have the dollar out as she approaches, tip her quickly and she'll get the message, or if she doesn't, after she got her one dollar, you're free to let her know she's pushing it. But I've been around the jerks that won't tip for the tip walk. Some even make a scene of it. The tip walk isn't the girls' favorite thing, either, but on a slow night, it might be the only $30 they get. If you're not going to tip at least a few girls a single dollar, then don't go to the club.[/QUOTE]I take offense to calling guys jerks for refusing the girls on a tip walk. Personally, I find it to be an old stupid practice. If I want to tip a girl, I will go up to the stage. I normally go to the clubs in Darien, where both of them have eliminated the tip walk for the mst part. This was after enough customers refused to tip. As for the girls that make no other money besides the tip walk, perhaps they should choose a new profession.
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[QUOTE=Jc2490;6406225]I take offense to calling guys jerks for refusing the girls on a tip walk. Personally, I find it to be an old stupid practice. If I want to tip a girl, I will go up to the stage. I normally go to the clubs in Darien, where both of them have eliminated the tip walk for the mst part. This was after enough customers refused to tip. As for the girls that make no other money besides the tip walk, perhaps they should choose a new profession.[/QUOTE]I agree. The tip should be for good service like any other profession. If they dance that's one thing but if they're just collecting dollars, just hang a sign around your neck like a homeless person. We're not there to give to our favorite charity. I once had a dancer sit next to me without being invited to talk to me. After 15 minutes she wanted a $20 tip! I told her no and she copped an attitude. I told management about it and I never saw her there again.
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[QUOTE=Jc2490;6406225]I take offense to calling guys jerks for refusing the girls on a tip walk. Personally, I find it to be an old stupid practice. If I want to tip a girl, I will go up to the stage. I normally go to the clubs in Darien, where both of them have eliminated the tip walk for the mst part. This was after enough customers refused to tip. As for the girls that make no other money besides the tip walk, perhaps they should choose a new profession.[/QUOTE]It's a flippin' dollar.
She doesn't particularly want to be doing the tip walk, either. Don't make things more miserable for her. Give her the flippin' dollar and be done with it.
If you have a problem with the practice, take it up with the club, not the girl, or just go to a club wherever else (as you seem to do).
I was at a no-longer-around club that employed the practice once and a guy literally held a dollar in front of a girl, then as she reached for it, yanked it away from her and yelled in her face, "NOPE!" before chortling with his buddy. Girl didn't look terribly happy before that and looked like she was going to burst out in tears afterward.
Don't be that a-hole. If you go to the club, support the talent at the bare minimum level or don't go. Give the girl a flippin' dollar. It's not like you're being asked to get a lap dance with every girl in the building.
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[QUOTE=Axel6;6406830]I once had a dancer sit next to me without being invited to talk to me. After 15 minutes she wanted a $20 tip! I told her no and she copped an attitude. I told management about it and I never saw her there again.[/QUOTE]That's different. There's no set, per-minute bar conversation price with a dancer, nor should there be, nor is there any way to know she's taking a seat with an expectation of pay for company. Don't totally blame you there.
That said, I never forget this is a job for these girls. If someone comes up to me and doesn't seem like someone I want to hang out with, I come up with an excuse for them to go away. "I'm just having this drink and leaving. " "I'm taking care of some business on my phone. " "I'm not particularly good company right now. " "I'm good by myself right now, thanks. " And so on. Because I know, if I end up taking their time, there's a good chance their company costs money. I don't pretend any of them are just there because they're bored or like me, even if they are or do. Let's not be naive.
As far as the tip walk, a very different thing, it only takes 15 minutes into your first visit to a club to know it's a thing every dancer does. It's just part of what happens at Milwaukee clubs. Don't be the cheapskate that weasels out of it. It's hard enough to keep good talent in this town as it is.
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[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6406158]Tip walk seems to be required at Silk Silver Spring, Heartbreakers and OTB after a girl gets done with her stage rotation. I've never spent enough time at the downtown clubs to know if they do it there or not.
Do some girls go around and "fake" their tip walk, as if they just got off stage but weren't on stage? Maybe. But, if they do, it's rare, or maybe they've just gotten stalled on their tipwalk by a customer engaging them in conversation or whatever. I've seen girls get passed on their tip walks by whoever followed them on stage.
TL; DR, don't be the jerk that won't tip a girl a freakin' dollar on her tip walk. If you aren't interested in engaging with the girl's sales pitch, have the dollar out as she approaches, tip her quickly and she'll get the message, or if she doesn't, after she got her one dollar, you're free to let her know she's pushing it. But I've been around the jerks that won't tip for the tip walk. Some even make a scene of it. The tip walk isn't the girls' favorite thing, either, but on a slow night, it might be the only $30 they get. If you're not going to tip at least a few girls a single dollar, then don't go to the club.[/QUOTE]When I say fake tip walk I mean they weren't on stage and they are going around asking for money as if they Were just on stage. It's not hard to keep track. They are right in front of you on the stage.
I'm not going to get scammed. I don't care if it's one dollar. How do you know the tip walk isn't the girl's favorite thing? They are literally going around to every customer collecting money. Who wouldn't like that?
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[QUOTE=Jc2490;6406225]I take offense to calling guys jerks for refusing the girls on a tip walk. Personally, I find it to be an old stupid practice. If I want to tip a girl, I will go up to the stage. I normally go to the clubs in Darien, where both of them have eliminated the tip walk for the mst part. This was after enough customers refused to tip. As for the girls that make no other money besides the tip walk, perhaps they should choose a new profession.[/QUOTE]The places with tip walks have basically turned into lap dance factories with girls with no game.
The clubs in Darien are much more laid back and nicer.
When I go to a club I want to have a good time. I don't want some stripper with an attitude hitting me up for a dollar. In some cases it's a good way to meet new ones, but.
With the tip walk clubs in the Milwaukee area, all that is lost. Most of these girls don't know how to act.
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Tip walk
[QUOTE=ChimilDetin;6407086]It's a flippin' dollar.
She doesn't particularly want to be doing the tip walk, either. Don't make things more miserable for her. Give her the flippin' dollar and be done with it.
If you have a problem with the practice, take it up with the club, not the girl, or just go to a club wherever else (as you seem to do).
[/QUOTE]I agree. It is only a dollar. Girls usually dance for 2-3 songs at a time so in an hour that's about 6-8 girls dancing. If $6-8 in an hour is going to make or break me I shouldn't be at the strip club. And unless we are extremely preoccupied, while that girl is dancing, taking off her clothes and showing us her tits or whatever, we all at least take a few glances. That alone deserves a buck. If I like her more I'll watch more and tip more. But at the very least $1 is not a big deal.
Plus sometimes, I don't feel like going to the stage, especially if there are a bunch of guys up there already. The tip walk is a chance for me to invite them to sit and talk if they seem cool or at least get a closer view of their tits and ass.
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Silk on SS
Loss of the day shift must be hitting some of the girls pretty hard because a few of the girls who worked the day shift and never offered takeout in the past are suddenly offering takeout. If you were in contact with anyone there and have been shot down previously maybe it's worth your while to reach out again.
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Truth
I consider myself close to an expert in strip clubs so my 2 cents is that the girls that do the fake tip walk are the ones that all the guys move away from the stage when it's their turn to dance up there. You hardly see and attractive girl with a nice body doing the fake walk. Just tell the girl you just got to the club and missed her dance. It works 99.9% of the time. I might visit OTB this weekend so I'll report back.
[QUOTE=BarOfSoap;6407287]The places with tip walks have basically turned into lap dance factories with girls with no game.
The clubs in Darien are much more laid back and nicer.
When I go to a club I want to have a good time. I don't want some stripper with an attitude hitting me up for a dollar. In some cases it's a good way to meet new ones, but.
With the tip walk clubs in the Milwaukee area, all that is lost. Most of these girls don't know how to act.[/QUOTE]
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Ricy's on State
Had some free time the other day and decided to make a trip to Ricky's. Grabbed a drink and a decent looking latina sat next to me and started a conversation, asked me what brings me in tonight then started asking me about other clubs I visit. This is something I don't get do guys really start casual conversation with strippers? Tends to kill the vibe / fantasy for me, luckily I ended up locking eyes with someone who was doing their tip walk and she decided to start giving me a floor dance. I was able to escape the convo and start focusing on waves that were forming in front me. I tend to let a couple dollars fall per verse but notice most guys barely tip during the floor dances, probably going to try a new strategy and dump money towards the end of the song but anywho, scanning the area I would say per usual girls were between 5-7 was one BPR that looked like she was at the wrong club she was at least a 9 who looked to have BBL and natural, eyeballing it, G cups. I wanted her but naturally everyone else did. I would definitely make a trip out again just to see her. So I finally decided to see what their private dances at. 4 was about and can't say that I didn't like it, a lot of touching roaming didn't seem like bouncer were paying much attention. Honestly so far on Silk bouncers seem to be over protective. After the dance She passed me her number, I don't participate in take out but I'm guessing that's why she gave it to me? So there's that, out of curiosity for future reports what are you guys looking for in these reports? This forum doesn't get much reports I'm in GCs at least once a month but don't report cause I feel majority is looking for take out and as mentioned I don't partake in that.
I'm probably going to be at Encore in the next couple of weeks so if anyone interested in that place let me know what to look for besides the amount of girls and what they looked like.
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Casual chat
[QUOTE=TheDarkLurker;6410003]Had some free time the other day and decided to make a trip to Ricky's. Grabbed a drink and a decent looking latina sat next to me and started a conversation, asked me what brings me in tonight then started asking me about other clubs I visit. This is something I don't get do guys really start casual conversation with strippers? Tends to kill the vibe / fantasy for me, luckily I ended up locking eyes with someone who was doing their tip walk and she decided to start giving me a floor dance. I was able to escape the convo and start focusing on waves that were forming in front me. I tend to let a couple dollars fall per verse but notice most guys barely tip during the floor dances, probably going to try a new strategy and dump money towards the end of the song but anywho, scanning the area I would say per usual girls were between 5-7 was one BPR that looked like she was at the wrong club she was at least a 9 who looked to have BBL and natural, eyeballing it, G cups. I wanted her but naturally everyone else did. I would definitely make a trip out again just to see her. So I finally decided to see what their private dances at. 4 was about and can't say that I didn't like it, a lot of touching roaming didn't seem like bouncer were paying much attention. Honestly so far on Silk bouncers seem to be over protective. After the dance She passed me her number, I don't participate in take out but I'm guessing that's why she gave it to me? So there's that, out of curiosity for future reports what are you guys looking for in these reports? This forum doesn't get much reports I'm in GCs at least once a month but don't report cause I feel majority is looking for take out and as mentioned I don't partake in that..[/QUOTE]Hell yeah, start up a little casual chat with the dancers. It's a quick way to weed out the ones that feign interest in you just to make a quick buck. It also helps you to come across as a normal guy, not just some horndog that wants to get in her G-string. That is also helpful in getting a girls number if you're on a budget or short on funds that night. Just play it off like "I'd really love to spend time with yu, but I'm a bit low on cash to do dances. I'd really like to see you again. ". You'll be surprised at how many digits you can get.
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[QUOTE=TheDarkLurker;6410003]This is something I don't get do guys really start casual conversation with strippers? Tends to kill the vibe / fantasy for me[/QUOTE]I'm 180 the opposite. If a girl doesn't spend time talking to me and getting to know me, I'm probably not going to be interested.
If a girl just leads with the sales pitch and nothing else, I'm going to think she's not even thinking about me and what I want. In my mind, the odds go way up that the dance will be cold and impersonal. If she's lucky, she'll grind the right way, but I'm going to think she's just in it for the buck.
The more flirty the girl, the more fun. Some eye contact, some playful banter, some laughter amd some sly smiles, both from her and me, are fun. This seems like a particularly lost art for younger women nowadays.
I want to know her. I want to know if she's got sugar and spice, if she can be a good girl and a bad girl (or both at once), the whole thing. This is after I've decided I'm attracted to her physically, too, of course. But I'm not just in it for a fantasy. I don't mind hearing about her personal life quibbles, either, if it's not excessive. Furthermore, a woman who can have an intelligent conversation about her sexuality and sexuality generally is awesome. It's easier to have those conversations with strippers than random women in the grocery store line.
Plus, I want her to know me. If I like the whole experience with a dancer the first time, from looks to personality to the outfit to the dances themselves, it's particularly hot if, when I see her a second time, she remembers something I told her the last time I saw her. It means she was engaged with the experience. If she's not repulsed enough to avoid you, she cooed and purred and grinded right during the dance, and she remembers you the next time you see her, that means you got in her head and were memorable -- and if she engages again, that means you didn't bore her to death or repulse her, and maybe even became a customer she prefers over others. For all the fake validation we pay for at a club, that's validation that takes a lot more effort and brain space to fake on the dancer's part. At that point, it's not really fake validation at all. It's actual validation, as in you were worth remembering and engaging with again.
Anyhow, to each his own. Maybe you'd like the clubs in Vegas and Gold Room and Chicago more than I do, where it's seemingly just a parade of girls for you to say yes or no to almost like you're swiping left or right on Tinder. I like the girls that will sit with you and spend some time, if I want to spend time with them. If not, I come up with a way to send them away quickly so as not to waste their, or my, time.
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[QUOTE=TheDarkLurker;6410003]a decent looking latina sat next to me and started a conversation, asked me what brings me in tonight then started asking me about other clubs I visit. This is something I don't get do guys really start casual conversation with strippers? Tends to kill the vibe / fantasy for me[/QUOTE]Curious what vibe / fantasy you get without talking to them?
I'm with CD and JC on this; and honestly, its's half the fun of going to a GC. I only stop in once every three or four weeks; half the time I don't get any dances. One of the last times I was at OTB it was fairly busy, and two that remembered me buzzed on over before I got my first drink. Got hugs and lots of flirting, when I told them I was only there for a beer then on my way, they still sat down and talked. Not once did they pester me for a dance or tip. When they saw a regular or were called to the stage they left, but eventually came back. Was there for an hour and a half and spent less than a shitty 30 min session with MKE slore; had some fun and didn't have to do the walk of shame. Every once in a while got to give the big head some stimulation, even thought the little head is screaming for attention.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not their friend, they only came by because of my wallet. But that's everyone in this hobby.
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[QUOTE=Jc2490;6410053]Hell yeah, start up a little casual chat with the dancers. It's a quick way to weed out the ones that feign interest in you just to make a quick buck. It also helps you to come across as a normal guy, not just some horndog that wants to get in her G-string. That is also helpful in getting a girls number if you're on a budget or short on funds that night. Just play it off like "I'd really love to spend time with yu, but I'm a bit low on cash to do dances. I'd really like to see you again. ". You'll be surprised at how many digits you can get.[/QUOTE]It's really just the small talk that bothers me, if I'm in a flirty playful mood and you come to me talking how you use to backpack across the US, it give me the impression they just trying to talk and not do anything else. So now I'm completely out the mood and need to find a way out without being rude. True story went to Silk during the day shift nothing really going on. Grabbed a drink and after about 15 minutes a dancer comes sit next to me we started talking she asks what brings you in today and said you with a smile she laughs then we started talking and somehow the conversation turned to Mortal Kombat and us talking about our favorite characters and game in the series this goes on for like 30-45 minutes. Then her shifts end and she gave me a hug and was about to walk away I felt bad and gave. 40 for the talk but wasn't there for talking. I mean it was no touching no in between flirting it's like she's trying to make a friend and I'm too nice of a guy to now context switch from a gentlemen to horn dog to try to let her know I came here to see and touch some titties not spend time talking. I would say there have been a couple times where the girls were like if you see anyone you like lmk and I'll go grab them so I guess that's a plus but still feels weird sending them off for someone else. Guess it's just a me thing.
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[QUOTE=TheDarkLurker;6411813]It's really just the small talk that bothers me, if I'm in a flirty playful mood and you come to me talking how you use to backpack across the US, it give me the impression they just trying to talk and not do anything else. So now I'm completely out the mood and need to find a way out without being rude. True story went to Silk during the day shift nothing really going on. Grabbed a drink and after about 15 minutes a dancer comes sit next to me we started talking she asks what brings you in today and said you with a smile she laughs then we started talking and somehow the conversation turned to Mortal Kombat and us talking about our favorite characters and game in the series this goes on for like 30-45 minutes. Then her shifts end and she gave me a hug and was about to walk away I felt bad and gave. 40 for the talk but wasn't there for talking. I mean it was no touching no in between flirting it's like she's trying to make a friend and I'm too nice of a guy to now context switch from a gentlemen to horn dog to try to let her know I came here to see and touch some titties not spend time talking. I would say there have been a couple times where the girls were like if you see anyone you like lmk and I'll go grab them so I guess that's a plus but still feels weird sending them off for someone else. Guess it's just a me thing.[/QUOTE]Don't worry about shifting the conversation from something casual to dances / titties / whatever. They're not so naive as to think you would have gone to the coffee shop to chat up girls but just happened to stop there instead. Hell, don't be afraid to weave some sexy talk into the conversation. It's a strip club; if there's anyplace on the planet where they won't be offended, that's the place. That's one of the best things about strip clubs: You don't have to hide your horniness there like you do everywhere else. They want you to be a bit of a horn dog. That's how they're going to make money.
When it's time and you're ready to do business, say so. Not rudely, like when she's mid-sentence, but when you get the chance. "So hey, this talking thing is great and all, but since we're getting along so well, why don't we take this to another level?" Add a sly smile and she'll flash one back before asking you what you have in mind. Have the charm to carry the conversation, then man up when you're ready to have her grind on your manhood.
I'm with you on not wanting to send a dancer to get another dancer. The implied "I don't like you and I like her better than you" undercurrent isn't a real awesome message to send to anyone. But yeah, in the club, you've got the money, and they're ultimately there because they want that money, so you're the boss. Get what you want when you want it, and get the most value for it that you can, whatever that means to you.