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[QUOTE=Herman]Hey, I was reading through some of the more recent threads and it appears that Royal is a recommended location. I did a search for this place and got two hits, one in Doraville and one in Suwanee. I sure don't want to go to the wrong location so which is the one that is consistently being recommended on here.
Thanks[/QUOTE]The one in Doraville is the one you want, unless you want your nails done!
Yeah now that I mapped it I realize that I have been there. It was a couple of years ago but it was great, beautiful girl and reasonable. Really crappy neighborhood though which is why I haven't been back. But, sounds like it is of sound quality still so might have to make a stop by.
[QUOTE=Gaghoes]Nobody, unless they own an AMP, can say with certainty how much paying "high prices" effects the bargain-hunting mongers. One could just as easily presume that the ones who pay more, actually give the rest of you the room to negotiate. If EVERYBODY haggled and walked out, they might push back. They might tell you to go fuck yourselves because you were just wasting their time. Maybe the house fee would go up to compensate. Maybe they'd just stop offering FS. Maybe they'd just pick up and open up shop in some other city. I've seen a great many of you say here that the AMP scene in Atlanta now isn't nearly what it used to be in the 90s. We like to assume it's because of LE...but is it ALL LE that ran them off? Could it have been an influx of Wal-Mart minded individuals? Possibly, huh? Are those of you who pay too little fucking it up for the rest of us in reality?
Do I know the answers to these questions? Fuck no...but neither do any of you who come on this board and purport to be ass-market experts; accusing the more generous of us of "fucking it up for everyone else." You don't know if that's the case or not, so shut the fuck up about it. All you have to go own is your opinions, which are clearly based on your emotions and not fact. This is why I'd suggest a psychologist to anyone who feels it's his duty to limit these girls' earnings.
The reality is, everything for sale has a healthy mix of willing buyers with different limitations; And none of us have ever been pimps or jack shack owners, so let's cut the bullshit. The next person that makes this claim without having completed extensive research is a fucking idiot. When I see "you're fucking it up for the rest of us" again, it better be accompanied by a 15 page report.[/QUOTE]
Sounds like your standard, imature, over emotianal postings.
Price. Everyone has their limit. Lets compare to cars. You can't buy a Porsche when you have the budget of Honda. Or some have the budget of a cavalier. But lets face it. All the cars get you where you need to go as in all the girls get you to bust. We all have our own budget and we should operate within it. If I only have 200 a month for a payment I won't be in the Porsche dealership hagglin. My ass will be in the chevy lot making a purchase. We all know certain spas are high. So don't walk in and try to get a ride in a Porsche on that Cavalier budget. I hope that makes sense.
I personally take part in all of them. I like the 40 head shots and I like the 300 dollar pamper sessions at the spa. Depends on the wallet and the budget. Gold has gone up from 200 to 300 lately and if you pay 200 you get lower quality. My fault. Whatever. But there are some apartment AMPs that are 150 and I get the full treatment without the office building and a shower instead of a table shower.
Long story short. We all need to calm down and get back to basics and report and reflect on our ass missions.
The Thai spot I have refered to before. I went back and it was wonerful. They had a Latina a chineese girl and a THai girl! This guy seems to rotate inventory weekly. I've been there at least 6 times. I only had a shitty time once. The rest are real nice. I picked the THAI girl. Shower was very slow and complete. Then I got a back rub with her walking on my back and then flipped for a front rub then down to the deed. She was kinda cryin a little when I was hittin it. I think I was a little too big for her. She was real tiny. I saw that then offered for her to finish me off with a HJ and she gladly accepted. She cleaned me up and hugged on the way out. All in all another good visit.
Gaghoes and some of you others may have overlooked some important issues which come into play whenever we try to analyze the economic issues affecting AMP's, the kinds of girls working there, what we may be charged, etc.
First of all, when you go to an AMP, you are really dealing with two separate entities. These are the ownership and possibly a mamasan who represents the ownership and manages the spa for her (or him). Then there are the girls who work in the AMP and who provide the services to the blokes who patronize the shop. The ownership and the providers are two financially and economically independent entities.
Although the "girls", as we may term them, work at the spa, they don't work for it. They work for themselves. What the girls charge (or try to charge) the customer has very little to do with what the house charges for entry into the place and for the introduction to the girl.
Both players in this game (girls and owner) do realize that if the girls charge too much, patronage may go down and in fact may dwindle to nothing. The owner will then have to find some sucker to buy the business and try to make a go of it. Eventually this spa and others will move to another town where conditions are more favorable to the industry and the town will be completely or nearly spaless.
On the other hand, if the girls feel that the town and its inhabitants can't support the prices they need to charge in order to survive, they will go to another town and, again, the town will experience a dearth of spas. But they girls and the owners do not normally collude with one another to set their prices so that, say, the owner decides what the girls will charge.
There is some cooperation between owners and girls, but it may only extend to the owner having a broker call a particular girl and ask if she (the girl) will come to a particular city and work in a particular spa. If she agrees, she will go and work there, but only for as long as she feels it is in her interest. When that is no longer the case, she will contact a broker or her friends who work in different spas in different cities and find a place where she thinks she will be happier or (more likely) make more money. This is normally why the girls move from one spa to another. Normally the broker will recommend a "Korean Taxi" who will pick up the girl at the spa where she works and deliver her (at a high price) to the place where she wishes to work.
There are many reasons the girls use this method of transportation. One may be that they are undocumented and do not desire to use public transportation. Another reason may be that many of the girls don't know their way around or that they are not confident enough in their English to navigate the public transportation system.
The point is that the girls don't get moved around in the way that many people believe it happens. While the girls may have debts that they must pay off, they are not really slaves in the way that many people think. They are, however, people in debt who feel a strong impetus to service their debts. Many of them feel that they have no choice but to work in the massage industry because it is the only one in which they can make the money they make. A pretty girl who does not mind providing good service may make as much as $100,000.00 per year. This is untaxed income. So they don't make what some people think they make, but the do make good money.
LexLuther
I understand where you're coming from, Lex, but I think you're grouping them all together too much, as these operations aren't homogeneous in the way they're run. Even culturally, I've seen different types of Asians working in these places (and there have even been reports of non-Asians).
I don't think any of us will ever know exactly how AMPs work behind the scenes, being outsiders and all, but I'm inclined to believe that there's more interaction between the "management" and "talent" than your report would imply. It seems perfectly logical for some of the owners, if not most, to charge the house fee, and also collect a percentage of what gets charged for "extras." I believe I've seen reports from individuals who'd cozied up to AMP girls of this being the case.
Perhaps you're more right than I am, perhaps not. It simply can't be confirmed definitively, and THAT'S the point I was making. Those questions I asked in my post were just that - questions that can't be answered without intimate knowledge of MP ops, i.e. ownership. This is why it's so idiotic to pontificate about what paying "too much" can do to the AMP "market."
You and I are on the same page I think, but we can scroll down a couple reports (directly under yours) and see examples of the titanium, logic-proof retard helmets some our fellow posters wear. I guess it's necessary to prevent further brain damage - so I'm going to stop short in asking them to remove them.
Soaky, I'm a terrible citizen and American (according to some past IRS records)...but I WILL take you up on that drink. I've never turned one down in the 4, almost 5 decades I've been alive.
Gaghoes,
We are on the same page. I agree with you that you should pay whatever you feel is appropriate. You and any other customer has to use your discernment to determine what is appropriate at any given time and with any given provider. This issue has been beaten to death on the D.C. board. Some people just don't understand economics.
But with regard to what we can know and what we can't, I have to tell you that I've had very close relationships with a number of AMP girls. I have gotten to know a couple of mamasans. And I don't believe it when someone states that the AMP's control the lives of the girls. The girls are basically independent contractors.
LexLuther
Went to this AMP on Buford Hwy next to Italy Optical across the street from Asian Square. I have got to tell you the girl was alot older than what I was use to so I just could not fork out the money to even give it a try. If you are into the older asian women then it may be good for you but I am more into the younger ones. I am going to try out Chalet on Oak Cliff road next.
George,
Did you get a chance to check out Chalett? Or did anyone reply back to you with any reviews?
Thanks
[QUOTE=George Sims]Anyone heard of this one or been there?
Chalett
770-220-9911
3056 Oakcliff Road
Doraville, Ga. 30341
Open 7 Days A Week
$60..00 Sessions Available[/QUOTE]
I happened to be in the area yesterday so I swung into Royal, it's been awhile since I've been there. No one at the desk when I walked in but in a couple min one of the hottest looking women I've EVER seen in an AMP came and let me in. She was late 30's maybe, great boob job, beautiful face, I quickly realized this is just mamasan jr, not one of the "working girls". Mamasan was preparing food, and mamasan jr lead me to a room- I gave her. 4 for a half. She said she'd get a pretty young girl for me, I told her I rather she her. At that point I got the "yeah right" laugh and she walked out. I tried. Anyway, Gina came in. Very pretty, especially for an AMP girl, 5'8" nice boob job-full B small C, nice legs, offered a TS. Nice TS-not the best but very nice. Returned to room, decent massage, on the flip she asked what I wanted, I had left. 6 on the table since I hadn't been there in awhile and wanted as smooth a process as possible, topless HJ was good and I would repeat on the above alone. What made this such a great experience was Gina's attitude. She had the best attitude I have ever experienced in an AMP. I've done AMP's frequently for a very long time and she had the best attitude out of them all. She was sweet, flirty, playful, and never acted bored, or tired, or disinterested. Lots of eye contact, very sensual. Now consider that she is very attractive for an AMP girl and it's just that much better.
TS: 7
massage: 6
HJ: 6
looks: 7 for a girl on the street, 9 for an AMP girl
attitude: 10+ never had better.
overall: 8 and I will repeat......maybe today..lol.
Guys,
I am not a senior member but I have clout in the AMP area on the SC board. My travels have me in Atl a good bit these days and I would love to find the Brazillian connection. Where do I look? PM if needed.
[QUOTE=Paper Hanger]Guys,
I am not a senior member but I have clout in the AMP area on the SC board. My travels have me in Atl a good bit these days and I would love to find the Brazillian connection. Where do I look? PM if needed.[/QUOTE]
EROS - Latin
Okay I made a Royal visit the other day and I enjoyed it.
Saw Jasmine who has a so-so face but a excellent body. Fake boobs that were done superbly fit her body well (not too big) and felt good also nice shape. Great but and legs too. She did good massage and then went the whole way. Well shaved and seemed clean. She bargained better than most AMPs I've dealt with in past and so here is the results:
Door entry for 30 minutes (I stayed longer) $40
HJ $50
CBJ ? Didn't ask for this
FS $140
I tipped $20 where she called me stupid cause if I paid more she would have given better service. I like to tip based on performance and she definitely earned it even though I know the above is true but it is my personality to tip upon performance.
Face: 5
Body: 9
Performance: 8
Attitude: 7 (She is a sales person very good for AMP and is very sure of herself, but could come off a bit to much for some guys.)
Will repeat? Definitely
Also to Brazilian question, there are lots of good ones and they are always hit or miss. The one run by Alex seems to have a pretty good probability for me but I know some other ones are good. Don't trust the pictures, they are usually not stock photos just photos of girls that have moved on. But usually they have some really fine girls for even cheaper then AMPs. 150 for 30 and 200 for 60 and usually most give doubles at 60 (not all). But the looks of the girls are hit or miss. I opt for the 150 and if they are hot come back for 200. Some have been better looking then your typical 350 girl but it is totally hit or miss and sometimes it can be a dud. But they work out of apartments off of Roswell Road generally instead of an office building. Another idea before deciding for 30 or 60 is to ask to see the girl first and preferably more than one if there are more avail.
[QUOTE=Paper Hanger]Guys,
I am not a senior member but I have clout in the AMP area on the SC board. My travels have me in Atl a good bit these days and I would love to find the Brazillian connection. Where do I look? PM if needed.[/QUOTE]
This might be of interest to you. I can't say I've used them, but there are a couple of reviews on TER for their ladies. Research, and if you can't find them at MP's then this is an option...
[url]http://www.atlantalatinasecretlove.com/gallery.html[/url]
I tried to nail the mamasan too last time I was there because she had the best rack of anyone, but she blew me off too.
Nite
[QUOTE=Devilboy67]I happened to be in the area yesterday so I swung into Royal, it's been awhile since I've been there. No one at the desk when I walked in but in a couple min one of the hottest looking women I've EVER seen in an AMP came and let me in. She was late 30's maybe, great boob job, beautiful face, I quickly realized this is just mamasan jr, not one of the "working girls". Mamasan was preparing food, and mamasan jr lead me to a room- I gave her. 4 for a half. She said she'd get a pretty young girl for me, I told her I rather she her. At that point I got the "yeah right" laugh and she walked out. I tried. Anyway, Gina came in. Very pretty, especially for an AMP girl, 5'8" nice boob job-full B small C, nice legs, offered a TS. Nice TS-not the best but very nice. Returned to room, decent massage, on the flip she asked what I wanted, I had left. 6 on the table since I hadn't been there in awhile and wanted as smooth a process as possible, topless HJ was good and I would repeat on the above alone. What made this such a great experience was Gina's attitude. She had the best attitude I have ever experienced in an AMP. I've done AMP's frequently for a very long time and she had the best attitude out of them all. She was sweet, flirty, playful, and never acted bored, or tired, or disinterested. Lots of eye contact, very sensual. Now consider that she is very attractive for an AMP girl and it's just that much better.
TS: 7
massage: 6
HJ: 6
looks: 7 for a girl on the street, 9 for an AMP girl
attitude: 10+ never had better.
overall: 8 and I will repeat......maybe today..lol.[/QUOTE]